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    Wow, just wow As a dutchman I am going to cheer for Max

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    Absolutely Pathetic.

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    TBH, it was expected. I know some here are shocked, but I don't get why. The current Ferrari engine is nowhere near the pick level performance of others, Ferrari themselves admitted it, and it was evident since Austria. So our current performance is hardly surprising.

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    Relax peeps, we must have our engines dialed down

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    This is something special Binotto was talking about for this race?

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    Quote Originally Posted by springfield View Post
    This is something special Binotto was talking about for this race?
    Man you nailed it

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    Quote Originally Posted by RicRac View Post
    Absolutely Pathetic.
    And it will remain so the entirety of this year. They can't upgrade the engine, and no amount of aero parts will ever make up for the power deficit.

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    Interesting how Ricciardo is matching Verstappens time, shows me Hamilton can go a lot faster

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    And it will remain so the entirety of this year. They can't upgrade the engine, and no amount of aero parts will ever make up for the power deficit.
    I’m afraid so.....when you have a donkey in the back....nothing else will help aero wise

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    Quote Originally Posted by S1000RR View Post
    Interesting how Ricciardo is matching Verstappens time, shows me Hamilton can go a lot faster
    Renault can match Red Bull in quali sim, but the race pace is entirely different matter. I'm expecting Max to challenge Hamilton here. It will be Ham vs Max vs Bot as usual, with Albon battling with slower cars for the P4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FerrariF60 View Post
    I’m afraid so.....when you have a donkey in the back....nothing else will help aero wise
    We are becoming the new McLaren

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    Renault can match Red Bull in quali sim, but the race pace is entirely different matter. I'm expecting Max to challenge Hamilton here. It will be Ham vs Max vs Bot as usual, with Albon battling with slower cars for the P4.
    Yes sorry was talking about Q. Very decent performance by Renault though. The RB16 is a beast in race trim

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    Quote Originally Posted by S1000RR View Post
    We are becoming the new McLaren
    Only in tracks like Spa or Monza. But next year will be different, Ferrari have made a good step forward with the aero, and if they can recover the lost power with the engine, we will again fight with the Merc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S1000RR View Post
    We are becoming the new McLaren
    NO, I’m just bashing the team for designing a complete TURD of an engine....been a ferrari fan since I was 14 (now 45 BTW) and never have ever seen such a complete garbage of an engine....Enzo would truly roll in his grave...since he truly believed that engines are > then aero

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    Only in tracks like Spa or Monza. But next year will be different, Ferrari have made a good step forward with the aero, and if they can recover the lost power with the engine, we will again fight with the Merc.
    Especially since there will be no more party mode next year either....at least I’m hoping there won’t be

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    Max on mediums 1m48.996, Vettel on softs 1m52.668

    Leclerc on mediums 1m50.672

    Horrible long run pace. Only Haas is slower than us.

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    SPA is going to be a humiliation. I think I will ignore this race, I don't want to see Ferrari battling for P14-P20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    Only in tracks like Spa or Monza. But next year will be different, Ferrari have made a good step forward with the aero, and if they can recover the lost power with the engine, we will again fight with the Merc.

    How many years is this now old....?

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    Anyone has insights why Alfa Romeo is 0.6 sec faster than us? Tyres?

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    How in God's name can our car be so utterly awful? Truly disappointing.

    Charles must be seriously wondering what he's let himself in for..

    #BringOnTheClowns
    We're doomed, Cap'n Mainwaring, doomed I tell ye!

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    Charles said it would be painful this weekend.......he was being very optimistic.......
    You can run like the wind, but you'll never outrun the Prancing Horse

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    Quote Originally Posted by S1000RR View Post
    Anyone has insights why Alfa Romeo is 0.6 sec faster than us? Tyres?
    Same engine, better car.........get red paint.
    You can run like the wind, but you'll never outrun the Prancing Horse

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    Quote Originally Posted by springfield View Post
    This is something special Binotto was talking about for this race?
    Blaming one man is much too simple or easy. This is going way deeper.........
    You can run like the wind, but you'll never outrun the Prancing Horse

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    FP2 (Top 10 and....Ferrari)

    Verstappen 30.862--44.202--28.677 (1:43.744)

    Ricciardo 30.665--44.565--28.562 (1:43.792)

    Hamilton 31.068--43.786--28.986 (1:43.840) (Sandbag mode)

    Albon 31.232--44.143--28.759 (1:44.134)

    Perez 30.723--44.442--28.840 (1:44.137)

    Bottas 31.221--44.010--28.897 (1:44.162)

    Norris 30.821--44.693--28.654 (1:44.168)

    Ocon 30.391--45.078--28.703 (1:44.208)

    Sainz 30.868--44.825--28.781 (1:44.474)

    Gasly 30.794--44.954--28.852 (1:44.600)



    Leclerc 30.868--45.546--28.788 (1:45.440)

    Vettel 30.880--45.535--29.051 (1:45.683)

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    A massive shunt on lap 1 that takes out everyone but us, Williams and Haas is the only way we'll get on the podium!

    Still, I'm sure I'll watch anyway - hoping for some 'fortunate' dramas..

    #Fustercluck!
    We're doomed, Cap'n Mainwaring, doomed I tell ye!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    How many years is this now old....?
    What...you think 2017,2018 or 2019 was this bad? Maybe refresh your memory a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonsomaniac View Post
    Blaming one man is much too simple or easy. This is going way deeper.........

    Well, we can't blame the drivers. VET is still capable and we all know LEC is as fast as ANYONE in F1. It's simply a three-legged dog of a car ??
    We're doomed, Cap'n Mainwaring, doomed I tell ye!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    What...you think 2017,2018 or 2019 was this bad? Maybe refresh your memory a bit.
    Lad, when you are not winning WDC and CWC, even fighting till the laat race for it, and regullary loose development game, than yea it is BAD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Singer View Post
    Well, we can't blame the drivers. VET is still capable and we all know LEC is as fast as ANYONE in F1. It's simply a three-legged dog of a car ??
    No, we can't blame the drivers. It is just the car and the engine in it. Ferrari has built not so good cars in the past too, but it was always camouflaged by an engine that was a beast. But this time both are weak.....and that hurts a lot.
    You can run like the wind, but you'll never outrun the Prancing Horse

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    Lad, when you are not winning WDC and CWC, even fighting till the laat race for it, and regullary loose development game, than yea it is BAD!
    Ferrari was good throughout the 2017 season, especially the second part.

    Same thing in 2018. The Singapore upgrade was a let down, but they only kept it for 2 races and then ditched it, and the car was good again. As evident by Raikkonen winning the US GP

    2019, was bad. But still Ferrari had 9 poles, and with a competent race strategy team, they could've won more than 3 races.

    This year is an outlier. Mainly due to the pandemic situation in Italy.

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