Belgian GP 2020 Race

[WS6TransAm01]

Kimi ahead of the works Ferraris. Hahaha

Tell me again why Binotto deserves to stay? I’m all ears.

Ahahahah

[nani_s23]

Glad that This humiliation is not front of the Italian crowd at Monza.

[tifosi1993]

13th and 15th - a new low.

Next year will be the same. I have no confidence WHATSOEVER Ferrari will sort things for the new regs in '22.

Absolute clowns. I am so, so fed up.

Did you really expected Ferrari to be at their current positions 8 months ago? No I don't think you did.

Next year is next year. Next year, at least, we'll have a brand new PU. And if Ferrari can go back to the 2018/2019 power level, then it will change almost everything.

[FFFerrari]

Well that sure was a race to forget.

The car is dog awful, the power unit is a disaster. Monza will be a pain to watch.

[jgonzalesm6]

We cant pass grosjean with newer tyre

Charles passes Grosjean.

[JacKy]

Kimi ahead of the works Ferraris. Hahaha

Tell me again why Binotto deserves to stay? I’m all ears.

Ahahahah

Apparently To keep his mouth shut for what was going on with the engine last year

[nani_s23]

Did you really expected Ferrari to be at their current positions 8 months ago? No I don't think you did.

Next year is next year. Next year, at least, we'll have a brand new PU. And if Ferrari can go back to the 2018/2019 power level, then it will change almost everything.

My point is if 2019 PU is deemed illegal. They should have gone to 2018 PU for this season?

[Nick Singer]

Kimi ahead of the works Ferraris. Hahaha

Tell me again why Binotto deserves to stay? I’m all ears.

Ahahahah

Hate to say it, but in the modern world, Italians have no clue whatsoever. My son has a number of Italian lecturers (chemical engineering) and he says that, while they know their stuff, they couldn't organise a 'few bevvies' in a brewery.

[tifosi1993]

Alfa managed to trim down their downforce better this race, we got beat by a customer team fair and square. Yes it’s mainly the PU but the car is not at all good.

Alfa is pretty much like their last year's car. An extremely slippery car on the straights. But this years Ferrari is completely different. This years car has inherently more downforce, so more drag. Which is why we have struggled so much here, and similar struggle is awaiting us at Monza.

[nani_s23]

Charles forgot to switch of his team radio and cursed in Italian quite loud after a quite messy pit stop by Ferrari.

Later he apologised to the team.

[Nick Singer]

Glad that This humiliation is not front of the Italian crowd at Monza.

Don't worry - we've got that to look forward to next week. As you say, no fans - God be praised!

[nani_s23]

I saw a footage of sainz shaking his head When Gasly passed vettel in the 2nd stint.

Hmmm, atm he pray’s ferrari to get their act for next year

[tifosi1993]

My point is if 2019 PU is deemed illegal. They should have gone to 2018 PU for this season?

But it hasn't been deemed illegal. There is no words from the FIA about the 2019 engine being "illegal".

I think Ferrari can recover the lost power. They've made a huge step forward in 2018 without any "tricks", they can do it again. And they would've done it this year as well, if they were allowed to work on the PU and if they haven't had to shut down the factory for 2 months.

[doublesixes]

#axbinotto

enough's enough

[SashAlex]

Binotto fuori testa di cazzo!

[nani_s23]

Renault Ric did fastest lap on 43rd lap. Which is 23rd lap on his medium tyres.

[jgonzalesm6]

I saw a footage of sainz shaking his head When Gasly passed vettel in the 2nd stint.

Hmmm, atm he pray’s ferrari to get their act for next year

Sainz should get out of the Ferrari contract.....like now.

[Warp]

Hate to say it, but in the modern world, Italians have no clue whatsoever. My son has a number of Italian lecturers (chemical engineering) and he says that, while they know their stuff, they couldn't organise a 'few bevvies' in a brewery.

That's too harsh. Italians has nothing to do with that. And the random teachers of your son have nothing to do with top engineers aswell. The team was very competitive in 2017 and 2018. No idea what has gone wrong since then.

I saw a footage of sainz shaking his head When Gasly passed vettel in the 2nd stint.

Hmmm, atm he pray’s ferrari to get their act for next year

It could be montage, not sure what he was watching in that monitor. Also he had a great race in his McLaren. Oh wait!

[tifosi1993]

Renault Ric did fastest lap on 43rd lap. Which is 23rd lap on his medium tyres.

Yup, Ricciardo closed down 13 seconds gap to Max within 7 laps. Impressive pace.

[ntukza]

Boring race.

[nani_s23]

But it hasn't been deemed illegal. There is no words from the FIA about the 2019 engine being "illegal".

I think Ferrari can recover the lost power. They've made a huge step forward in 2018 without any "tricks", they can do it again. And they would've done it this year as well, if they were allowed to work on the PU and if they haven't had to shut down the factory for 2 months.

Because I see Ferrari 2019 Spec2 was powerful. That’s where the actual problem started from rivals.
So I think we can just go back & work on 2018 PU which was good & use those 2 tokens on that for next year. I see this as the only chance.

Using 2 tokens on the current PU doesn’t reap good benefits, we still be fighting with Pink Mercs at max.

[TTRSMAD]

My point is if 2019 PU is deemed illegal. They should have gone to 2018 PU for this season?

The Ferrari engine started being dominant in 2018 spec 2 in Montreal. The engine in the Ferrari is propably spec 1 2018 or 2017 engine.

[tifosi1993]

Because I see Ferrari 2019 Spec2 was powerful. That’s where the actual problem started from rivals.
So I think we can just go back & work on 2018 PU which was good & use those 2 tokens on that for next year. I see this as the only chance.

Using 2 tokens on the current PU doesn’t reap good benefits, we still be fighting with Pink Mercs at max.

Whatever helps. But they need to recover the lost power, I think they can do it, whether they can actually do it or be competent enough...I don't know.

And if you ask me, I think Ferrari should've fought harder last year. "Prove us that we are cheating or shut up"...that should've been their moto. But they just gave up too easily. Man...I'm really missing Sergio Marchionne. Ferrari lost heaps of political powers with SM's untimely death.

[alfa84]

400 million budget gets burned from 150 million budget teams.

[nani_s23]

Whatever helps. But they need to recover the lost power, I think they can do it, whether they can actually do it or be competent enough...I don't know.

And if you ask me, I think Ferrari should've fought harder last year. "Prove us that we are cheating or shut up"...that should've been their moto. But they just gave up too easily. Man...I'm really missing Sergio Marchionne. Ferrari lost heaps of political powers with SM's untimely death.

This was point which made me angry on binotto. I didn’t really get the statement “for the good of sport”.
When ferrari exploited loophole, which might be grey area & also isn’t illegal. Then why to give up so easily.

[doublesixes]

I'm not for picking on a guy by just appearance but someone wanting to look like a mix of Waldo and Kramer (from Seinfeld) tells me there's something wacky in that head.

[chinmay]

The Ferrari engine started being dominant in 2018 spec 2 in Montreal. The engine in the Ferrari is propably spec 1 2018 or 2017 engine.

Yes, the engine with "tricks" was introduced in 2018 with Spec 2. The current engine is indeed Spec 1 from 2018.

[TTRSMAD]

The problem is that the car was conceived with all that extra power in hand. They need a b spec chassis or they are not going anywhere.

Hopefully they are going to do something for Monza and the new engine rules is going to make a difference.

[Kyss4k]

We are the worst team in the F1 as of now. It really takes something (someone) special to pull this off. Thanks Ferrari, really proud of you.

[FerrariF60]

The problem is that the car was conceived with all that extra power in hand. They need a b spec chassis or they are not going anywhere.

Hopefully they are going to do something for Monza and the new engine rules is going to make a difference.

Sadly mate it won’t much of a difference for us...the mercs will still have HUGE advantage weather be quali or race pace compared to US.....it may bring red bull closer to Merc.....but we’ll still be slow as SNAILS