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    Italian GP 2020 : Practice and Qualifying

    Weather looks good all 3 days.

    Let's see how the quali ban affects [cough] [cough]...........Mecedes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Weather looks good all 3 days.

    Let's see how the quali ban affects [cough] [cough]...........Mecedes.
    I bet it will not at all!

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    Harder to pass here than at Spa, so as long as we're in Q3 we should be good for points. Power is arguably more important there than here, just look at last year for reference and also remember how Vettel won in 2011 and 2013 with a below-power car with a dominant chassis. So long as the car is working on the brakes and is tolerable in Parabolica it should be better than last time. Q3 is hard but I don't think it's impossible to accomplish here.

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    www.crashstappen.com needs an update .
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Weather looks good all 3 days.

    Let's see how the quali ban affects [cough] [cough]...........Mecedes.
    Something tells me it will affect Red Bull and other Mercedes powered cars more than Mercedes themselves.

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    The reason btw for me saying power means less than Spa is the sheer length of the straights there. It's 2 km to Les Combes through Eau Rouge and 1.8 km-ish past Blanchimont. That means there's plenty of time to roll right past ya if the car ain't fast enough. The longest Monza straight is about 1.2 km and in turn is entered through a high speed corner, resulting in acceleration being less important on that spot. The other three straights are more like thereabouts with the main straight of a standard track. That means you need to have a corner speed advantage to actually attack at Monza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    Something tells me it will affect Red Bull and other Mercedes powered cars more than Mercedes themselves.
    Merc still had plenty in the bag, they're not even remotely phased. Looking at practice times so far it looks like the rest of the field has bunched up a bit and possibly RB have dropped back. Bit too early to say really. We'll maybe have a slightly better picture in P2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Weather looks good all 3 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ss-89 View Post
    Merc still had plenty in the bag, they're not even remotely phased. Looking at practice times so far it looks like the rest of the field has bunched up a bit and possibly RB have dropped back. Bit too early to say really. We'll maybe have a slightly better picture in P2.
    Merc have had extra pace in their back pocket since the hybrid era started. Nothing will change.

    Still curious as to what “something special” is. Binotto, we are waiting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSpeed View Post
    www.crashstappen.com needs an update .
    should be noted ..!!
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    I was following live timing, hard to gather a lot of info but the longer stint pace looked reasonable low 1:25s on the mediums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ss-89 View Post
    I was following live timing, hard to gather a lot of info but the longer stint pace looked reasonable low 1:25s on the mediums.
    I saw vettel 19th position & Leclerc 11th in FP1 ?
    Both are on different programmes?

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    Bottas: 27.088--26.754--26.686--1:20.703

    Hamilton: 27.254--27.037--26.611--1:20.948

    Albon: 27.294--27.268--26.938--1:21.500

    Kvyat: 27.363--27.223--26.969--1:21.555

    Verstappen: 27.204--27.335--27.019--1:21.641

    Gasly: 21.285--27.287--27.095--1:21.667

    Perez: 21.358--27.272--27.052--1:21.747

    Norris: 21.378--27.375--26.994--1:21.747

    Ricciardo: 27.250--27.197--27.291--1:21.789

    Sainz: 27.087--27.481--27.128--1:21.821

    Leclerc: 27.445--27.285--27.094--1:21.904



    Vettel: 27.513--27.606--27.354--1:22.988

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    FP1 (Max speed):

    Norris 345

    Hamilton 343

    Sainz 342

    Kvyat 340

    Ricciardo 340

    Latifi 340

    Verstappen 339

    Gasly 339

    Leclerc 339

    Grosjean 339

    Nissany 339

    Bottas 338

    Ocon 338

    Stroll 338

    Albon 337

    Perez 337

    Giovinazzi 337

    Raikkonen 334

    Magnussen 333

    Vettel 328

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    Quote Originally Posted by ss-89 View Post
    I was following live timing, hard to gather a lot of info but the longer stint pace looked reasonable low 1:25s on the mediums.
    Leclerc's long run was reasonable. But Renault is looing to be 2nd/3rd fastest car, Ricciardo did 1:24.667 during his long run, which was faster than Red Bull.

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    It just looks very bad for us. I reckon we'd be much better in Mugello, Portimao, Nurburgring and Imola, maybe Silverstone tier.
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    Question, I read something on a Dutch site.......: Binotto said: "Next years car will be an evolution of this years car, but we have chances. At this moment we are testing a brand new engine for 2021 and we are counting on that one".
    And I thought: ????????? Is that true? Is that allowed? And then I thought: you are not allowed to change much on this years engine for next year, but what about a completely new one? Is that a loophole? It could be, and it would then be created by McLaren who are changing to Mercedes engines next year.

    Now, what does everyone think.....could this be true?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    Leclerc's long run was reasonable. But Renault is looing to be 2nd/3rd fastest car, Ricciardo did 1:24.667 during his long run, which was faster than Red Bull.
    was one lap and otherwise Ric was doing very similar times, may have got a tow on that lap. Nobody had a clean race sim as there was traffic so laps were all over the place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonsomaniac View Post
    Question, I read something on a Dutch site.......: Binotto said: "Next years car will be an evolution of this years car, but we have chances. At this moment we are testing a brand new engine for 2021 and we are counting on that one".
    And I thought: ????????? Is that true? Is that allowed? And then I thought: you are not allowed to change much on this years engine for next year, but what about a completely new one? Is that a loophole? It could be, and it would then be created by McLaren who are changing to Mercedes engines next year.

    Now, what does everyone think.....could this be true?
    New engine is fine, no problem with that.
    It’s just they can’t upgrade the current engine as per the regulations they have only 2 tokens.

    Whether it’s old or new engine the allocation of components is the same. They have to deal with token system till next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSC Fan View Post
    It just looks very bad for us. I reckon we'd be much better in Mugello, Portimao, Nurburgring and Imola, maybe Silverstone tier.
    Bahrain 1 and Abu Dhabi should also be alright tracks for us, due to the high track temps and the twisty hairpin sections being on those tracks. Especially in Bahrain I think the likes of Renault and the Copypaste will suffer on race pace because of the combination of temps and traction. In Bahrain 2 we'll be better than Spa due to the frequent braking and lack of an individual monster straight. Istanbul will be very weather dependent instead. Late season warm spell there and we have a chance at a good result due to excessive graining through Turn 8 for the others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    I saw vettel 19th position & Leclerc 11th in FP1 ?
    Both are on different programmes?
    Or set up. Top speeds say so, IMO. Thing is, there’s no reason to run downforce in Monza so I don’t really know.

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    Maybe party mode ban hurt us

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonsomaniac View Post
    Question, I read something on a Dutch site.......: Binotto said: "Next years car will be an evolution of this years car, but we have chances. At this moment we are testing a brand new engine for 2021 and we are counting on that one".
    And I thought: ????????? Is that true? Is that allowed? And then I thought: you are not allowed to change much on this years engine for next year, but what about a completely new one? Is that a loophole? It could be, and it would then be created by McLaren who are changing to Mercedes engines next year.

    Now, what does everyone think.....could this be true?
    Don't believed the word that coming out of their mouth like EVOLUTION! It was use before from Stefano time (can't remember what year it is, he use the word it's the EVOLUTION of last year car. perhaps) EVOLUTION is Mitsubishi! hehe...
    Last edited by JChan; 4th September 2020 at 13:41. Reason: wrong spelling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Bob View Post
    Maybe party mode ban hurt us
    Car is just weak, party mode or not, Ferrari is regulated to a mid-pack team until next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    New engine is fine, no problem with that.
    It’s just they can’t upgrade the current engine as per the regulations they have only 2 tokens.

    Whether it’s old or new engine the allocation of components is the same. They have to deal with token system till next year.
    We can introduce a brand new spec next year but we cannot upgrade our engine during this or during the next season. Obviously Ferrari is working on a new engine which is tested on the dyno.

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    There he goes, spinning again. No damage I think.

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    Ballerina Seb practising again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSpeed View Post
    Ballerina Seb practising again...
    Yup , and so did Charles wiggling the tail.......it,s the car in this case, not the drivers making mistakes.
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