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    Quote Originally Posted by MSC Fan View Post
    Given the circumstances then, who else would you have picked up? Fernando was offerred a contract till 2019 and still decided to leave despite James Allison saying that at least 10 other high profiled team members (himself included) trying to convince him. Jules was just in a situation where Russell is now and until Verstappen was hired at such a young age, it was unheard of in this era to be promoted that young (and considering that it was a very competitive era, one would be even more hesitant). Hamilton had a beast of a car and wouldn't leave no matter what. Button had become clumsy and just lost some of his speed by 2014.

    Seb is a really great driver. It is just that the SF71H, SF90 and the SF1000 were harder to drive. He tried to overdrive the car and made a load of mistakes along the way (Kimi on the other hand was a driver who would play safe and not risk anything). Believe me, he is still a top 5 driver on the grid. It is just that Charles is even better and once he matures up a bit more, he would easily be the best driver on the grid by a long shot. Many would realise this once Carlos gets destroyed even worse than Seb is getting destroyed (quite possibly a whitewash).
    Perfectly said

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Crazy TP is not responsible...... post of the month. What does TP do? Just sit & watch

    Who’s vettel ? I’m talking about binotto. I think mad max fury is running in your mind.

    For your better understanding, TP will foresee the functions of engine dept/Aero etc... whether everything is aligned or not. All of them report to TP.
    But you were talking about 2014-2016 cars dear, don't backtrack now. You are blaming the guy and not Allison, who was the TD. And you are also not blaming Arrivabene for those bad cars. Funny.

    And my mind is fine though so don't worry, but I'm afraid if your brains were dynamite, you wouldn't have enough to blow your nose or mess your hair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    But you were talking about 2014-2016 cars dear, don't backtrack now. You are blaming the guy and not Allison, who was the TD.

    And my mind is fine though so don't worry, but I'm afraid if your brains were dynamite, you wouldn't have enough to blow your nose or mess your hair.
    Or did it happen to you? Thanks for informing me In prior

    Dear, Binotto was a part of TD too 2014-2016. I’m comparing two streams here TP & TD. Use your brain properly.
    My simple question wt is binotto doing as a TP? Just sit in garage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Or did it happen to you? Thanks for informing me In prior

    Dear, Binotto was a part of TD too 2014-2016. I’m comparing two streams here TP & TD. Use your brain properly.
    My simple question wt is binotto doing as a TP? Just sit in garage?
    You are welcome. Now don't go blow it up.
    Again, Binotto was responsible for the PU, Allison for everything else. And why you are not blaming Arrivabene too I wonder, since he was the TP.

    I'm pretty sure Binotto and the rest of team is busy doing hard works at the factory.

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    Let it go guys... We know this year is painfully slow. Let's try to somehow get the most from the car and pray that hopefully we can make some improvements in the engines to be somewhat competitive next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrarichamp View Post
    I'm dreaming of a Leclerc podium.
    It would be quite possible in Mugello or Imola but a podium in Monza with this year's engine is impossible.
    "I've always believed that you should never, ever give up and you should always keep fighting even when there's only a slightest chance." - Michael Schumacher

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    You are welcome. Now don't go blow it up.
    Again, Binotto was responsible for the PU, Allison for everything else. And why you are not blaming Arrivabene too I wonder, since he was the TP.

    I'm pretty sure Binotto and the rest of team is busy doing hard works at the factory.
    Your tobacco man did excellent job in 2018 than your guru binotto. Who did threaten the team to leave if not for TP

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    Quote Originally Posted by 20000rpm View Post
    Let it go guys... We know this year is painfully slow. Let's try to somehow get the most from the car and pray that hopefully we can make some improvements in the engines to be somewhat competitive next year.
    It’s just for fun ... between us.

    After all we both are ferrari fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Your tobacco man did excellent job in 2018 than your guru binotto. Who did threaten the team to leave if not for TP
    Not interested in conspiracy theories.
    Again, if you are blaming Binotto for everything, then you should blame Arrivabene as well. And the tobacco guy hardly did an excellent job. It's Binotto and his technical department did all the excellent job. But Arrivabene and the pit wall made a mess, like not giving Vettel the toe in Monza.

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    Every Ferrari-powered car is struggling so much. We're hopeless on this track.

    Max faster with Medium tires (Both Mercedes set the time with Soft tires). Hopefully they will get a big hit by quali mode ban. I cannot even hear Toto bragging about their engine anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp View Post
    Every Ferrari-powered car is struggling so much. We're hopeless on this track.
    Expected with the least powerfull engine.

    "If he can't do it with Ferrari, well, he can't do it." - John Surtees

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp View Post
    Every Ferrari-powered car is struggling so much. We're hopeless on this track.
    I am not surprised, just continuation from last race.

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    I didn't expect to be fast around here but this is disheartening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    Not interested in conspiracy theories.
    Again, if you are blaming Binotto for everything, then you should blame Arrivabene as well. And the tobacco guy hardly did an excellent job. It's Binotto and his technical department did all the excellent job. But Arrivabene and the pit wall made a mess, like not giving Vettel the toe in Monza.
    Now you call it’s binotto’s excellence in 2018. other time around you said it’s SM.
    Conspiracy theories ? Will post it.

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    Binotto said spa is one off. But it seems other way in moza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Binotto said spa is one off. But it seems other way in moza.
    One off being slower than Haas and Alfa..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp View Post
    Every Ferrari-powered car is struggling so much. We're hopeless on this track.

    Max faster with Medium tires (Both Mercedes set the time with Soft tires). Hopefully they will get a big hit by quali mode ban. I cannot even hear Toto bragging about their engine anymore.
    I mean that's to be expected. The engine is the least powerful PU out of all. And we can't do anything about it this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp View Post
    One off being slower than Haas and Alfa..
    Ferrari’s are practising tow...!! Q1 will be tight.

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    Ricciardo's engine or gearbox is dead.

    Renault engine seems very fast. Norris is behind Bottas on lap time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp View Post
    Ricciardo's engine or gearbox is dead.

    Renault engine seems very fast. Norris is behind Bottas on lap time.
    Renault with new engine this weekend.

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    Can Ferrari get into Q3?

    Binotto : “I think we have more chance than we did in Belgium, but that's not the best thing. It needs to be a perfect day today."

    #Skyspirts F1

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    Is it true that merc wasn't happy with the tyre pressures again so Pirelli have increased the psi for everyone again?

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    Why there's no investigation for Mercedes engines? Last year everyone complained that it's impossible to find that performance within the rules.

    This year, Mercedes is matching the Ferrari 2019 PU and they got alooooot of high downforce aswell.

    Edit: McLaren is really really fast.



    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Renault with new engine this weekend.
    Yes. I think its the gearbox.

    Quote Originally Posted by 458 Italia View Post
    Is it true that merc wasn't happy with the tyre pressures again so Pirelli have increased the psi for everyone again?
    Mercedes usually prefers lower tyre pressures.

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    I wonder if we had a good engine, 2nd row lock out would have been possible.

    Loosing everything in S2 & S3 1sec.

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    Wow... the queueing before the end of the lap is so stupid it hurts. It will kill someone one day.

    "If he can't do it with Ferrari, well, he can't do it." - John Surtees

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    Mclaren and Renault are looking really good. Tracing point P9 and P10. As expected, Mercedes powered customer teams are not looking anything special. Red Bull got a fight in their hand. Easy pole for Mercedes.

    Bottas: 27.035--26.652--26.389--1:20.089

    Sainz: 26.954--26.933--26.431--1:20.318

    Norris: 26.918--26.817--26.677--1:20.412

    Ricciardo: 26.789--26.867--26.751--1:20.419

    Hamilton: 27.004--26.828--26.417--1:20.439

    Verstappen: 26.836--26.782--26.594--1:20.456

    Albon: 26.848--26.986--26.612--1:20.563

    Ocon: 26.912--26.914--26.770--1:20.693

    Stroll: 27.093--27.031--26.601--1:20.804

    Perez: 27.072--27.139--26.623--1:20.897

    Leclerc: 27.106--27.031--26.780--1:20.917

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    Max speed:

    Gorsjean 351

    Perez 344

    Stroll 343

    Gasly 342

    Kvyat 342

    Russell 342

    Latifi 342

    Albon 341

    Raikkonen 341

    Verstappen 340

    Giovinazzi 340

    Ricciardo 339

    Ocon 337

    Bottas 336

    Hamilton 336

    Magnussen 336

    Sainz 335

    Norris 334

    Leclerc 333

    Vettel 332

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    Max speed:

    Gorsjean 351

    Perez 344

    Stroll 343

    Gasly 342

    Kvyat 342

    Russell 342

    Latifi 342

    Albon 341

    Raikkonen 341

    Verstappen 340

    Giovinazzi 340

    Ricciardo 339

    Ocon 337

    Bottas 336

    Hamilton 336

    Magnussen 336

    Sainz 335

    Norris 334

    Leclerc 333

    Vettel 332
    So everything is wrong with our car, look Sainz and Norris

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    Che sera sera what will be will be.Iam at peace with the ongoing and current ferrari failures finally its just not worth the grief as a ferrari fan now going on for over 20 years. The way I see it the situation can only get better.Ferrari has hit rock bottom now the only way left is up.ENJOY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KimiBot View Post
    So everything is wrong with our car, look Sainz and Norris
    That McLaren

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