Turkish Grand Prix 2020 - Practices and Qualifying

[jgonzalesm6]

Nice drive by Stroll. WOW

[tifosi1993]

Max is really something else. Outqualiying Albon by more than 2 seconds and always there when it rains.

And wet track is yet again Leclerc's weakness. He needs to improve his wet weather driving.

[KimiBot]

that was exciting, congrats to Stroll P1

[jgonzalesm6]

It would seem last year's Merc is better than this year's Merc in the wet.

[KimiBot]

It would seem last year's Merc is better than this year's Merc in the wet.

Alfa beats Ferrari and Racing Point beats Mercs, we are living weird times

[jgonzalesm6]

Alfa beats Ferrari and Racing Point beats Mercs, we are living weird times

In the wet....yes.

[tifosi1993]

Qualifying:

Stroll: 40.723 --- 37.594 --- 29.448 --- 1:47.765 --- 253

Verstappen: 40.721 --- 37.736 --- 29.598 --- 1:48.055 --- 260

Perez: 40.685 --- 38.805 --- 29.831 --- 1:49.321 --- 248

Albon: 40.994 --- 38.696 --- 29.519 --- 1:50.448 --- 268

Ricciardo: 41.519 --- 39.885 --- 30.191 --- 1:51.595 --- 250

Hamilton: 42.281 --- 39.943 --- 30.191 --- 1:52.560 --- 246

Ocon: 42.436 --- 39.902 --- 30.284 --- 1:52.622 --- 243

Raikkonen: 42.262 --- 39.703 --- 30.545 --- 1:52.745 --- 248

Bottas: 42.544 --- 40.311 --- 29.880 --- 1:53.258 --- 251

Giovinazzi: 42.816 --- 40.105 --- 30.510 --- 1:57.226

Norris: 43.193 --- 40.848 --- 30.727 --- 1:54.945 --- 244

Vettel: 43.692 --- 40.764 --- 30.713 --- 1:55.169 --- 240

Sainz: 43.234 --- 40.707 --- 31.445 --- 1:55.410 --- 256

Leclerc: 44.667 --- 41.023 --- 30.826 --- 1:56.696 --- 247

Gasly: 44.670 --- 42.104 --- 31.380 --- 1:58.556 --- 234

Magnussen: 46.061 --- 46.833 --- 33.302 --- 2:08.007 --- 234

Kvyat: 47.536 --- 46.710 --- 33.349 --- 2:09.070 --- 225

Russell: 47.655 --- 47.367 --- 33.286 --- 2:10.017 --- 236

Grosjean: 49.016 --- 46.826 --- 34.003 --- 2:12.909 --- 242

Latifi: 48.875 --- 49.702 --- 35.328 --- 2:21.611 --- 207

[tifosi1993]

I don't know why all of sudden both drivers struggled with front tyre temperature. It looked OK during the FP1, 2 and 3.

[tifosi1993]

Nice drive by Stroll. WOW

Pirelli lottery. TP could switch on the tyres but Mercedes couldn't.

[stefa]

Why I am not surprised we got the uglier end of the stick with these conditions?!

[jgonzalesm6]

Pirelli lottery. TP could switch on the tyres but Mercedes couldn't.

It was purely on merit. Mercedes "effed" up this time. It's not many, but Mercedes got caught with their pants down.

[nani_s23]

This is Ferrari’s problem from ages. Only MS & Alonso drove the wheels off Ferrari car under wet conditions. From then it was struggle for Ferrari to match or lit up their tyres under these conditions. Combined with worst car this season, doesn’t get better than this.

[chinmay]

The last good car in the wet was back in 2015, since then it's been a disgrace. Same problem every year, regardless of how car works in dry, it turns out to be an absolute dud in wet.

[nani_s23]

Leclerc needs to improve his wet racing skills. It seems he struggles a lot in wet track conditions.

[F2008]

It reminds me of Monza 2017, where Stroll was also quite handy in wet conditions, eventually starting P2 in a Williams.

[jgonzalesm6]

It reminds me of Monza 2017, where Stroll was also quite handy in wet conditions, eventually starting P2 in a Williams.

That was a dry(free practice), wet(qualifying), dry(race) weekend. Not the same. On race day, Stroll lost his place in T1 to Ocon on the first lap. Stroll ended up P7 and Massa P8.

[jgonzalesm6]

Stroll and Norris under investigation for not respecting yellow flags. Stroll could loose his P1 position.

[tifosi1993]

I've said it after Wet Austrian qualifying and I will say it again, wet weather driving is the only chink in Leclerc's armor. He needs to improve his wet weather driving to become the complete package like Max.

But he also needs a more predictable car. I don't believe Giovinazzi or Albon are better at handling wet conditions than Leclerc.

[tifosi1993]

It reminds me of Monza 2017, where Stroll was also quite handy in wet conditions, eventually starting P2 in a Williams.

Stroll was P13 in Austria, today he's on pole. Sainz was P3 in Austria, today he's P13. I think its all down to the Pirelli lottery.

But I'm also not downplaying wet weather skills. Take Max for an example, always there when it rains, regardless the circuit.

[maxc1]

What about Brazil quali for Charles in the Alfa? He did well then! It’s just the car

[tifosi1993]

What about Brazil quali for Charles in the Alfa? He did well then! It’s just the car

He was also quite competitive in today's FP3. But still, I can't remember any eye catching wet weather performance from Leclerc. He needs to improve his wet driving, because getting outqualified by Vettel on both occasions this year when it rained, not a good thing.

[FerrariF60]

He was also quite competitive in today's FP3. But still, I can't remember any eye catching wet weather performance from Leclerc. He needs to improve his wet driving, because getting outqualified by Vettel on both occasions this year when it rained, not a good thing.

maybe he's doesnt' have that WET weather craft like others do.....but i'm sure he can work on that

[tifosi1993]

maybe he's doesnt' have that WET weather craft like others do.....but i'm sure he can work on that

I am sure he WILL improve, he doesn't require much to hone his wet weather skills, he's raw speed is above everyone else.

Just need to cut out the mistakes and find a way to heat up the front tyres. But the current Ferrari is unpredictable, so he can't do much with his years car.

[F2008]

Stroll was P13 in Austria, today he's on pole. Sainz was P3 in Austria, today he's P13. I think its all down to the Pirelli lottery.

But I'm also not downplaying wet weather skills. Take Max for an example, always there when it rains, regardless the circuit.

Stroll's qualifying times in the wet in Austria were still much better than Perez who was already out in Q1, so you are actually proving my point there.
In 2017, Stroll was outqualified by Massa almost everywhere (17-2) and by large margins (0.6s on average), but in Monza he beat Massa by 1.2s (also in the wet).

[nani_s23]

Charles: "We are not speaking of a few tenths, we are speaking of six seconds which is huge. We really need to understand what we are doing wrong in the rain. Because this is not the first time, it‘s been a few times in the rain that we are struggling more than the others."



Charles needs to understand, ferrari in the wet it’s always the same struggle year & year. Irrespective of who the driver is ... only Alonso & MS are exceptions.

[jgonzalesm6]

Stroll and Norris under investigation for not respecting yellow flags. Stroll could loose his P1 position.

Stroll is cleared and keeps his P1 position.

[nani_s23]

Sainz - 3 place grid penalty
Norris - 5 place grid penalty

For blocking Perez & not slowing down under yellow flag.
Motorsport.com

Vettel P11 & Leclerc P12....hope it’s a lottery race tomorrow.

[nani_s23]

Drivers under investigation for yellow flag infringements during Q1. Sainz, Ricciardo, Gasly, Stroll, Perez, Norris, Hamilton, Bottas, Magnussen & Russell.

Of which Sainz/Norris received penalties. Stroll was cleared.

Rest of the drivers are still under investigation.

Correction : Ham, bottas, KMag, Russell didn’t improve their times. So cleared.

[SilverSpeed]

Knowing Charles he will dig into this matter and improve I'm sure.

He's done it before and will do it again it's just his nature so give him time.

[nani_s23]

It was Max Vers-RB opportunity to loose the pole & he did. All through the weekend, RB-Albon/Max were strong under these conditions. They couldn’t capitalise.

Hopefully there’s something up for tomorrow.