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    Bahrain Grand Prix 2020 Sakhir - Practices and Qualifying

    It was raining earlier but it seems to be drying out.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    The meaningless FP1 is done:

    Hamilton: 28.428 --- 38.266 --- 22.339 --- 1:29.033 --- 320

    Bottas: 28.504 --- 38.746 --- 22.232 --- 1:29.482 --- 326

    Perez: 28.589 --- 38.593 --- 22.696 --- 1:30.000 --- 324

    Sainz: 28.569 --- 38.845 --- 22.604 --- 1:30.018 --- 325

    Gasly: 28.705 --- 38.791 --- 22.553 --- 1:30.049 --- 326

    Verstappen: 28.802 --- 38.838 --- 22.654 --- 1:30.294 --- 323

    Albon: 28.718 --- 38.887 --- 22.546 --- 1:30.302 --- 327

    Ocon: 28.663 --- 39.091 --- 22.630 --- 1:30.384 --- 323

    Stroll: 28.740 --- 38.976 --- 22.669 --- 1:30.426 --- 325

    Ricciardo: 28.880 --- 39.066 --- 22.386 --- 1:30.508 --- 327

    Leclerc: 28.784 --- 38.813 --- 22.613 --- 1:30.589 --- 317

    Vettel: 28.818 --- 39.133 --- 22.677 --- 1:30.628 --- 316

    Kubica: 28.903 --- 39.167 --- 22.662 --- 1:30.732 --- 323

    Grosjean: 28.923 --- 39.232 --- 22.677 --- 1:30.832 --- 330

    Magnussen: 28.912 --- 39.108 --- 22.745 --- 1:30.854 --- 319

    Giovinazzi: 29.024 --- 39.137 --- 22.735 --- 1:30.896 --- 319

    Kvyat: 28.908 --- 39.182 --- 22.707 --- 1:31.020 --- 326

    Norris: 28.717 --- 39.321 --- 22.749 --- 1:31.392 --- 324

    Latifi: 29.330 --- 39.985 --- 22.793 --- 1:32.472 --- 325

    Nissany: 29.405 --- 40.259 --- 23.047 --- 1:32.801 --- 329

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    Well, well, well.....it seems that this circuit don’t suit us after all....as some may have thought the contrary

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    Quote Originally Posted by FerrariF60 View Post
    Well, well, well.....it seems that this circuit don’t suit us after all....as some may have thought the contrary
    Leclerc is struggling, looks like setup issue than circuit issue.

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    Leclerc was just 0.8 seconds down from the Mercedes when he had to abort the lap. I think if he were to continue that lap, he would've easily been P8 or P9. It's sad how much the standard has fallen for us.
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    Green track and FP1 doesn't mean much. The track is going to evolve a lot until tomorrow evening. Mainly, it's going to be about getting the front tyres to last. If we can, still a good chance to be P4/P5 on Sunday with Leclerc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifoso Svedese View Post
    Green track and FP1 doesn't mean much. The track is going to evolve a lot until tomorrow evening.
    As much as that of what you’re saying is very true....so if we improve so will the others...so in the end there’s still gonna be that performance differentiator between US and others....so more or less we’ll be in the same boat, NO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSC Fan View Post
    Leclerc was just 0.8 seconds down from the Mercedes when he had to abort the lap. I think if he were to continue that lap, he would've easily been P8 or P9. It's sad how much the standard has fallen for us.
    And that was on soft tyres while Mercs only used mediums...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gvera View Post
    And that was on soft tyres while Mercs only used mediums...
    Oh that’s bad.....that’s totally bad.....I mean we know the mercs are in their own world....but it’d be nice if we could be the top of the midfield..... cant believe I’m sayin this... but with the weak donkey our drivers got strapped at the back, they can only do so much

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    Quote Originally Posted by gvera View Post
    And that was on soft tyres while Mercs only used mediums...
    Dear God...
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    Lucky Albon, that could have been a lot worse.

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    Perez, RIC and Charles fighting about P4 WDC, who is going to win?

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    We’re freaking nowhere at this t4ack going by FP2 practice also....won’t even make to Q3 by da looks of it

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    FP-2 Vettel 12 , Charles 14. Welcome back to the pit wall Binotto.

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    Worrying indeed, even on softs we're nowhere. Hopefully tomorrow will be better otherwise we can say goodbye to any chance of Charles getting P4 in the WDC or Ferrari even holding on to P6 in the WCC, those Alpha Tauris are still a threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brembo View Post
    FP-2 Vettel 12 , Charles 14. Welcome back to the pit wall Binotto.
    This is not 18th century! No superstition! Nothing to do with who or what is where and when, simply bad car!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    This is not 18th century! No superstition! Nothing to do with who or what is where and when, simply bad car!
    OK ! But... last race Seb on pole Charles 4th. with same bad cars. The only thing changed was Binotto stood home. He now shows up and were back to 12, 14 . OK It's only practice , lets hope for the best quali. and the race.

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    Vettel is where I expected him to be, but Leclerc is the question mark: in reality he should be 0.4 seconds ahead of his team mate or so. If he makes that step overnight, then he'll be alright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brembo View Post
    OK ! But... last race Seb on pole Charles 4th. with same bad cars. The only thing changed was Binotto stood home. He now shows up and were back to 12, 14 . OK It's only practice , lets hope for the best quali. and the race.
    Seb was on pole?

    Track is completely different it's an engine track Ferraris engine is by far the worst this year, have done well improving the chassis but cannot change engine this year so car will be rubbish at power tracks. Next week will be worse. Not long to go now until this rubbish year is over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KimiBot View Post
    Perez, RIC and Charles fighting about P4 WDC, who is going to win?
    Perez / RIC have good chance. Given the tracks/ races left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifoso Svedese View Post
    Green track and FP1 doesn't mean much. The track is going to evolve a lot until tomorrow evening. Mainly, it's going to be about getting the front tyres to last. If we can, still a good chance to be P4/P5 on Sunday with Leclerc.
    P4 ??? Are you serious ? On this track?
    It should be with some heavy luck to expect such result. We are down on engine power . There are 2 sectors which are power dependent.

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    These negative Ferrari posts can cause a fan to drink! I already posted Seb on pole not podium last race. This coming race Ferrari 3,4 or I'll settle for a 4,5. Keep fighting even if there's only the slightest chance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    P4 ??? Are you serious ? On this track?
    It should be with some heavy luck to expect such result. We are down on engine power . There are 2 sectors which are power dependent.
    The average speed of Bahrain is lower than the F1 average and is brutal on tyre wear because of all the changes of direction at a dusty track. It all depends on how well we get the tyres to last and the car to turn in race trim. S2 is super important on high fuel because it's hard to get the car to turn. The issue is just that so far Charles has been slower than I expected him to be, whereas Seb has been right where he would need to be for the other car to have the potential for a top six or better finish.

    After all, you didn't see Seb being anywhere near the top 10 at the real power tracks. Charles gave us top sixes at Sochi and Imola and two finishes inside the top four at Silverstone, which are at least just as demanding in terms of engine capacity as Bahrain.
    Last edited by Tifoso Svedese; 28th November 2020 at 09:21.

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    P5 is there for the taking. Leclerc just needs to do what he was doing till now.

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    Charles sadly seems lost in terms of how to maximize the car this weekend after outperforming it so many other times. At least, if we could get the cars P11/P12 and start on the mediums and then long-stint as the others have their softs fall off the cliff as usually happens in Bahrain we can salvage something. Q3 is definitely not the holy grail on a track like this.

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    Giovinazzi ahead of Leclerc, just shows how awful the current aero is. Bad engine did wonders, at least they will now focus on creating a proper car. This car is surely among the worst cars of all time. Some were even praising this aero as the second best aero after mercedes. Maybe they meant second best aero from last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifoso Svedese View Post
    Charles sadly seems lost in terms of how to maximize the car this weekend after outperforming it so many other times. At least, if we could get the cars P11/P12 and start on the mediums and then long-stint as the others have their softs fall off the cliff as usually happens in Bahrain we can salvage something. Q3 is definitely not the holy grail on a track like this.
    two contrasting post. One with P4/P5 & other P11/P12.
    You are taking leclerc performance as the barrier but never considered car/engine/aero. Which is why I said are you serious of P4. To me Ferrari if they gets into points finish, I’m happy.

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