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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavallino View Post
    Sainz was every bit as quick as Crashtappen when they were in Torro Rosso. Yes, i still believe this is the case, and I think Leclerc is a step above both. I think Leclerc is on par with Alonso.

    And I don't believe that drivers improve once they get to F1, I give you 1 season, 2 max, and that's for learning some race craft, some setup secrets. But your raw speed will not improve when you reach F1.
    exactly, you either have it or you don't.....this KID blew me away watching him in F2 in 2017.....he was on fire all season long....i knew then, and so did FERRARI that he's the real deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by FerrariF60 View Post
    exactly, you either have it or you don't.....this KID blew me away watching him in F2 in 2017.....he was on fire all season long....i knew then, and so did FERRARI that he's the real deal
    you mean Leclerc. yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brembo View Post

    To read you one would think that you suffer from the syndrome of persecution
    " Let him pass or lose your seat!" That took it's toll on me as far as F-1 treating drivers. Carlos got lucky that Mick is no where near ready or he would be treated as a #3 !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavallino View Post
    Sainz was every bit as quick as Crashtappen when they were in Torro Rosso. Yes, i still believe this is the case, and I think Leclerc is a step above both. I think Leclerc is on par with Alonso.

    And I don't believe that drivers improve once they get to F1, I give you 1 season, 2 max, and that's for learning some race craft, some setup secrets. But your raw speed will not improve when you reach F1.
    Uh, no. Sainz is a good driver and he'll win some races, but he's not championship material. He's in his 8th season still searching for his first win and first pole. He's still very young and could develop himself, but for right now he's rightly a number 2 driver.

    Verstappen is the best driver at the moment, with Leclerc just a tick behind him. Leclerc is awesome, but he's got to prove he can stay with Max the whole year, and not crack under the pressure of his first opportunity at a WDC. It's going to be down to whether the team can develop the car so that he's at least a tenth within Max, otherwise, make no mistake, Max will drive away the WDC if he's 2+ tenths in car advantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brembo View Post

    " Let him pass or lose your seat!" That took it's toll on me as far as F-1 treating drivers. Carlos got lucky that Mick is no where near ready or he would be treated as a #3 !!!
    It's been 20 years Brembo.

    Stop trolling or leave this forum.

    Every time the same with you sigh.

    Can't you move ahead instead of thinking about the past.
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    Monaco 2022 Grand Prix Historique

    Leclerc bins Niki Lauda's 312T in the wall. Rear wing damage.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSpeed View Post
    It's been 20 years Brembo.

    Stop trolling or leave this forum.

    Every time the same with you sigh.

    Can't you move ahead instead of thinking about the past.
    O K it's as you say 20 yrs .Let it stay back there. As far as 2022 no 1,2 at least not until needed to get max points. I believe Carlos & Charles will be more cautious knowing there not under that pressure of 1,2 preference. Let the past stay in the past . Two Ferrari drivers capable of winning make for a great race to watch. Wanting that WCC for Ferrari is definitely every race the same with me for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Monaco 2022 Grand Prix Historique

    Leclerc bins Niki Lauda's 312T in the wall. Rear wing damage.
    Leclerc Crashes 1974 Ferrari | Monaco Historic Grand Prix 2022

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN-3hXcWg1E
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavallino View Post
    you mean Leclerc. yes.
    Of course I meant Leclerc, Alonso was NOT in F2 in 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Leclerc Crashes 1974 Ferrari | Monaco Historic Grand Prix 2022

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN-3hXcWg1E
    Brakes issue.... Monaco...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brembo View Post
    Two Ferrari drivers capable of winning
    Where did you see that?
    You try again to put them on an equal footing (which is wrong) to ask again and again for an equal treatment when the question does not arise
    Never tired?
    Last edited by Gilles; 15th May 2022 at 18:15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Leclerc Crashes 1974 Ferrari | Monaco Historic Grand Prix 2022

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN-3hXcWg1E


    That’s smart by Charles. Get his Monaco bad luck for this year out of the way before the actual grand prix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilles View Post
    Brakes issue.... Monaco...
    Quote Originally Posted by redzone View Post
    That’s smart by Charles. Get his Monaco bad luck for this year out of the way before the actual grand prix.
    I think Leclerc went too fast in the Rascasse corner, tried pumping the brakes because of the speed and at the same time lost the rear going into the corner. Yes, he had a brake issue by then.

    You have other "gentlemen" drivers driving in older cars and faired nicely through the track. Jacky Ickx drove his 312B2 at this Monaco Grand Prix Historique 2022 and drove it pretty well through the track.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Monaco 2022 Grand Prix Historique

    Leclerc bins Niki Lauda's 312T in the wall. Rear wing damage.
    I stand corrected. It's Niki Lauda's 312B3(1974) and not 1975.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Why is Ferrari letting leclerc drive this race at speed? It’s fun to watch for sure, but if your #1 injured himself it could be game over for the championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilles View Post
    Where did you see that so far?
    Miami 2-3
    Saudi Arabia 2-3
    Bahrain 1-2

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    They bring updates at every race

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    ohh Charles, bending such an iconic car..nooo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aziz View Post
    They bring updates at every race
    I think we're going to be able to read a lot into Spain, and then again in Baku.

    But if we don't win in Spain, we're in trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilles View Post
    Brakes issue.... Monaco...
    I think that's the official saving face excuse. No apparent brake issues the corners before. No visual tell tales of a brake failure. But he did just make a downshift and locked the rear tires which sent him into a spin. Driver error seems more likely than a sudden front brake failure the moment after a downshift while the car was already braking. Let's be honest, Charles has a history of self induced mistakes too.

    But a brake failure certainly is possible. So who knows for sure.

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    Can’t wait for Charles to crash out of Monaco this year and hand Max 25 free points.

    Good thing Ferrari waited for those updates LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aziz View Post
    They bring updates at every race
    Yep... And even so I am worried that they will have bigger, more impressive upgrade than us. That would totally end our chances. We need to wipe the floor with them after not upgrading the car at all since now otherwise this strategy is clearly wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brembo View Post
    Miami 2-3
    Saudi Arabia 2-3
    Bahrain 1-2
    Ok, able to win in case of Charles dnf
    So you better say we have a car capable of winning rather than 2 drivers, because i see you coming with your recurring "don't disadvantage Carlos"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyss4k View Post
    Yep... And even so I am worried that they will have bigger, more impressive upgrade than us. That would totally end our chances. We need to wipe the floor with them after not upgrading the car at all since now otherwise this strategy is clearly wrong.
    What optimism!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS454 View Post
    I think that's the official saving face excuse. No apparent brake issues the corners before. No visual tell tales of a brake failure. But he did just make a downshift and locked the rear tires which sent him into a spin. Driver error seems more likely than a sudden front brake failure the moment after a downshift while the car was already braking. Let's be honest, Charles has a history of self induced mistakes too.

    But a brake failure certainly is possible. So who knows for sure.
    You apparently
    (sorry mate)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilles View Post
    You apparently
    (sorry mate)
    Never said I knew for sure. That's why I said "I think". As in my own opinion based on the reasons I gave. I could just take the word of a twitter post too, but I like to have reasons to draw a conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilles View Post
    Ok, able to win in case of Charles dnf
    So you better say we have a car capable of winning rather than 2 drivers, because i see you coming with your recurring "don't disadvantage Carlos"
    I just don't want either driver Rubenized by Ferrari, at least not until needed to secure WCC . And at that point let it be the right choice as to which driver. It's way to soon to pick a !, 2 if need be. Charles and Carlos get along great . Fans should think of them the same. There's no more pressure on Bonito & the team to get Mick in Carlos seat so perhaps he will be looked at as equal to his team mate as far as given even equal cars and fair 1,2 status when need be.
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