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    2022 Miami GP: Post Race Analysis

    The inaugural Miami GP, did it live up to the hype? Well considering it felt like F1 forced the excitement of the event down our throats, just like they do with the Sprint races, I am not so sure. Let's be honest, the track is a fancy mirage on a parking lot. The fake marina is beyond ridiculous, and trying to create buzz from celebrities that don't even follow F1 is a strange attempt to make the GP bigger than it is. The celebs are annoying at Monaco, but at least that track has a history in F1. I don't know if there was some sort of collab deal with the NFL, but it was embarrassing to see all the NFL references for a Formula 1 race. The Stetson hats in Austin were amazing, the football helmets in Miami were a flop. Also, these guest post race interviewers are extremely cringe. Please, can we have Coulthard or Brundle do the interviews like it used to be? Having said that, the track isn't all that bad. Sure it is another bland design from Tilke, but it definitely induced some mistakes, and that is always good for racing. The fact that teams chose between high downforce and low downforce setups, makes it technically fascinating.

    Red Bull Racing surely came into the weekend as favorites. Their top speed advantage looked to be a key to their performance on paper, and it proved to be in the race. Interestingly they opted for a low downforce setup, despite an already strong max speed advantage. Can't say Verstappen put a foot wrong in the race and deserved the win. Red Bull definitely were much faster on medium tires. Perez was unfortunate to have a sensor issue that hurt his power, as he surely should have blown past Sainz after the restart. This supports that Red Bull's speed advantage is down to drag, rather than power.

    Ferrari can't be too disappointed. A double podium is a strong result, especially for Sainz, who needs to improve. Ferrari chose a higher downforce setup, which most would say is better for tire wear, but that isn't always true as high downforce increases the loads on the tires, which can make things worse. As it turns out, Ferrari struggled with tire wear on the medium tires and the first stint didn't have much to fight with the Red Bulls. On the hard tires the Ferrari's were pretty much equal, and Leclerc made it exciting after the restart. But the car is still not fast enough. It's hard not to say Ferrari have been behind in the development race as they have brought very few updates to the car compared to almost every other team. They don't even seem to bring track specific wing packages like other teams. Who knows what Spain brings, but up until now, Red Bull has surpassed Ferrari as the faster car.

    Mercedes brought more developments and on Friday the car looked significantly better. Then on Saturday the car looked terrible. It seems George Russell is right that their window of performance is extremely narrow, at least in outright speed. George Russell has been incredibly lucky, once again benefiting from a Safety Car. Lewis Hamilton who used to have all the luck, once again at the misfortune of his teammate's benefits. Mercedes has to be pleased that considering how far off the pace they are, a 5-6 finish is good points for them. I think the team made a mistake not to let Russell by Lewis right away, even if watching them race is entertaining. Though it really didn't make a difference.

    Alfa Romeo a very strong performance, even in quali. Zhou had bad luck and DNF'd early, but Bottas was looking like a 5th place until he messed up and let both Mercedes go by. That had to hurt a bit. Still a solid drive and hopefully not the last.

    Alpine a bit bitter sweet. Ocon toughed out a hard race and with a little luck from the SC and other's having problems, was able to score some points. Alonso might be able to drive like his old self for 90% of the race, but in the last 10% he finds a way to do something that really hurts his result. His 5 second penalty was deserved, and it sounds like he probably deserved another penalty for cutting the chicane (which we did not see on replay). Of course a lot of his poor results have been from some bad luck, but Alonso has always been able to get the best result possible, and so far that hasn't really happened this season.

    Williams another point? Alex Albon is a gem to that team and has a strong case for MVP on the grid. That car is lousy and yet Albon just stays out of trouble, puts in his laps, and gets the best result the car is capable of, and beyond. Latifi? Not so much.

    Aston Martin has to be pretty embarrassed to not make the grid because of a fuel temperature issue. They had one of their stronger qualifying results and were forced to start from the pit lane from their own mistake... on both cars! The drivers fought back, were dabbling in the points. But the drivers also made enough errors to prevent that. Stroll probably got the best result he could hope for. Vettel looked good till he was crashed into by his buddy.

    AlphaTauri going home kicking rocks. Tsunoda had a great quali but had nothing to show for it in the race. Perhaps the TV didn't show his struggles, but he fell back instantly and never recovered. Gasly, who was arguably the 2021 MVP, has driven pretty badly all season. Getting tapped by Alonso which allegedly broke his car, and then the collision with Lando which was basically a racing incident, doesn't excuse why he isn't fighting for the 7-10th places every weekend.

    McLaren will go home eating the rocks that AlphaTauri kicked. Lando should have scored points. Their poor pitstops certainly didn't help their strategy, but the car just wasn't very good either. They expected a struggle, but Ricciardo finishing just 9 seconds ahead of Latifi who is in the worst car... dude come on!

    Haas had the opportunity for a good result in what could be called a home race for the American based team. Instead they tripped over themselves enough times, as well as other cars to throw it all away. Both cars with a chance for points right at the end.... instead disaster. Mick Schumacher was optimistic to say the least in his pass attempt on Vettel which destroyed both their races, and ruined his hopes for his first F1 points. I don't even know what happened to Magnusson at the end, but a late DNF was not what the team wanted or deserved.

    Driver of the Race: Max Verstappen. Made a clear hard pass on Sainz which was critical, then made the pass for the win on track and then defended perfectly against Leclerc after the restart.

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    Great synopsis of the race @SS454.

    This race before and after was SOOOOOOOOO hyped that I must say I am embarrassed...............but it sold the show to its people.

    1) Who's going to pay anywhere from $14k to $18k for tickets if it's not in the VIP section or Paddock Club......sheeeeesh.
    2) The party the night before (Thursday) was lame with the DJ at the track. You can watch it on YouTube.
    3) Celebrities.....okay I get it but they are either unknowledgable about F1 or TOOOOO wrapped up in themselves in their own
    little world that the Brundle grid walk was utterly useless......except with Jean Alesi.
    4) The police escort to the podium........FFS!!!!!!!
    5) Football helmets at the podium ceremony......REALLY!!!!!
    6) The fake harbor with fake water was just an indication leading up to the GP.
    7) Food prices at the track were exhorbantly expensive.....like a 10,000% markup...........no thank you.

    Vegas is next year and I feel it's going to be 10x worse than Miami before and after the race. I wonder what fake comedic contraption they are going to setup.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Great synopsis of the race @SS454.

    This race before and after was SOOOOOOOOO hyped that I must say I am embarrassed...............but it sold the show to its people.

    1) Who's going to pay anywhere from $14k to $18k for tickets if it's not in the VIP section or Paddock Club......sheeeeesh.
    2) The party the night before (Thursday) was lame with the DJ at the track. You can watch it on YouTube.
    3) Celebrities.....okay I get it but they are either unknowledgable about F1 or TOOOOO wrapped up in themselves in their own
    little world that the Brundle grid walk was utterly useless......except with Jean Alesi.
    4) The police escort to the podium........FFS!!!!!!!
    5) Football helmets at the podium ceremony......REALLY!!!!!
    6) The fake harbor with fake water was just an indication leading up to the GP.
    7) Food prices at the track were exhorbantly expensive.....like a 10,000% markup...........no thank you.

    Vegas is next year and I feel it's going to be 10x worse than Miami before and after the race. I wonder what fake comedic contraption they are going to setup.
    Did you attend the race?

    I had no idea things were that expensive. $18,000 for a ticket? ***

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    i also think F1 has to do something about the gearbox and engine penalties, i can see the Energy Drink Provider Team making a mockery of them the same way Shamilton did last year.

    It's only a 5 place drop, a couple laps and a safety car and it's nullified, even if you start from the back, F1 is so quick to drop the safety cars now, the consequences of the penalties are far less than they seem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS454 View Post
    Did you attend the race?

    I had no idea things were that expensive. $18,000 for a ticket? ***
    Heck no......just some tweets I saw about ticket prices. Crazy when I saw that......but people paid them anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SS454 View Post
    Did you attend the race?

    I had no idea things were that expensive. $18,000 for a ticket? ***
    Good question !! Did you watch "Attend" the race or just look at the people that were there? And how the track surroundings looked? The podium was great with 2 Ferrari drivers!!

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    Not in the least surprised. F1 tells the world it's an unbelievably amazing event, when in reality it's a S--- show. Any chance Liberty Media had some influence in this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Great synopsis of the race @SS454.

    This race before and after was SOOOOOOOOO hyped that I must say I am embarrassed...............but it sold the show to its people.

    1) Who's going to pay anywhere from $14k to $18k for tickets if it's not in the VIP section or Paddock Club......sheeeeesh.
    2) The party the night before (Thursday) was lame with the DJ at the track. You can watch it on YouTube.
    3) Celebrities.....okay I get it but they are either unknowledgable about F1 or TOOOOO wrapped up in themselves in their own
    little world that the Brundle grid walk was utterly useless......except with Jean Alesi.
    4) The police escort to the podium........FFS!!!!!!!
    5) Football helmets at the podium ceremony......REALLY!!!!!
    6) The fake harbor with fake water was just an indication leading up to the GP.
    7) Food prices at the track were exhorbantly expensive.....like a 10,000% markup...........no thank you.

    Vegas is next year and I feel it's going to be 10x worse than Miami before and after the race. I wonder what fake comedic contraption they are going to setup.
    This is where F1 is heading..

    I know that all major sports are now all about money, more so than ever, but, particularly for old farts like me [who can remember sneaking into the paddock on a practice evening and walking around the garage, photographing drivers, cars and mechanics!], it's awful seeing all the vacuous, preening 'celebrities' - most of whom wouldn't know a rear wing from a hamburger - wandering about while a fawning media hangs on their every word!

    Don't start me off on fake water - Jesus!

    It'll only get worse. For me - apart from the Deja Vue 'club' - is it still there? - Vegas means the talking 'Roman statues'! It's going to be GHASTLY!

    Sir Lew will be in his element!
    Trying to be less angry..

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS454 View Post
    Not in the least surprised. F1 tells the world it's an unbelievably amazing event, when in reality it's a S--- show. Any chance Liberty Media had some influence in this?
    Ferrari comes in with two drivers on the podium ! " An amazing unbelievable event" for us Ferrari fans for sure on the first race there! Bring on Vegas 2023 and maybe.... Indy will come back now that the former F-1 boss Bernie is out of the way. Liberty is now F-1 ! Like it or not!

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    According to fia sources red bull have spent to date some 75% of there budget cap to date which is a blow to max.Ferarri have spent virtually nothing,goes to show exactly what it has taken red bull just to be virtually on par with ferrari.So to all ferrari critics put a sock in it.If merc dump there current car the rest of the season will be preparing for 2023 season unfortunately, it would have been nice if they were in the 2022 fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paolo lalli View Post
    According to fia sources red bull have spent to date some 75% of there budget cap to date which is a blow to max.Ferarri have spent virtually nothing,goes to show exactly what it has taken red bull just to be virtually on par with ferrari.So to all ferrari critics put a sock in it.If merc dump there current car the rest of the season will be preparing for 2023 season unfortunately, it would have been nice if they were in the 2022 fight.
    I hope that’s true. Lock in that WDC/WCC if it is, and RB don’t cheat.

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    I think of F-1 as fans , sponsors, $$$ ! Rightfully so.You can't have one without the other. Ferrari ruled; then R Bull; then Merc; it's now time for Ferrari to be back in the #1 spot again rotation wise. Favorite driver wise for WDC is really open territory for F-1 fans. Luis' records he set are there to be passed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS454 View Post
    Did you attend the race?

    I had no idea things were that expensive. $18,000 for a ticket? ***
    18k? Seems excessive, Maybe to sit in the Ferrari garage lol...

    I paid $1,300 USD for grandstand seats at Turn 18. I saw the same seats were being resold online for $5,000 before the race. Amazing seats, I had a great view of them coming down the final straight, turn in and take off towards the start/finish line. I also could see when they dived into the pits.

    The food and beer was expensive, but it is always like that at live events; NBA, NHL, concerts etc. So its to be expected. Beers were $10 each, and you could get a personal pizza for $20-$25. Ferrari team polo's were $150, hats were $70. All cashless/paperless btw. It was an expensive weekend, but again it was to be expected.

    I had a good time, it was pretty well organized for a first time event (shuttles, parking, police closing/escorting roads etc.) Even though some parts of the weekend were fake (marina) or tacky (football helmets), I will attend again next year for sure!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brembo View Post
    I think of F-1 as fans , sponsors, $$$ ! Rightfully so.You can't have one without the other. Ferrari ruled; then R Bull; then Merc; it's now time for Ferrari to be back in the #1 spot again rotation wise. Favorite driver wise for WDC is really open territory for F-1 fans. Luis' records he set are there to be passed.
    The rules are set up in a way that would never let anyone take over 100 wins with 0 competition again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paolo lalli View Post
    According to fia sources red bull have spent to date some 75% of there budget cap to date which is a blow to max.Ferarri have spent virtually nothing,goes to show exactly what it has taken red bull just to be virtually on par with ferrari.So to all ferrari critics put a sock in it.If merc dump there current car the rest of the season will be preparing for 2023 season unfortunately, it would have been nice if they were in the 2022 fight.
    I have no doubt in my mind that RB, Merc and others will cheat/fudge the books on their spending. There's no way they will just stop development, especially if they are in a title fight. Its all fake optics to show that F1 is going green/spending less.

    To the last part of your comment, the best thing about this season is that Merc are not in contention. F1 will be a better place if they never win a race again...they singlehandedly destroyed F1 over the last 7-8 years. They are getting what they deserve after all the FIA favoritism, rule changes, bespoke tires, secret tests etc. Karma is a you know what.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrari1.8t View Post
    18k? Seems excessive, Maybe to sit in the Ferrari garage lol...

    I paid $1,300 USD for grandstand seats at Turn 18. I saw the same seats were being resold online for $5,000 before the race. Amazing seats, I had a great view of them coming down the final straight, turn in and take off towards the start/finish line. I also could see when they dived into the pits.

    The food and beer was expensive, but it is always like that at live events; NBA, NHL, concerts etc. So its to be expected. Beers were $10 each, and you could get a personal pizza for $20-$25. Ferrari team polo's were $150, hats were $70. All cashless/paperless btw. It was an expensive weekend, but again it was to be expected.

    I had a good time, it was pretty well organized for a first time event (shuttles, parking, police closing/escorting roads etc.) Even though some parts of the weekend were fake (marina) or tacky (football helmets), I will attend again next year for sure!
    Love hearing the first hand experience. It does sound expensive, but I am glad you had a great time and that it was worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Great synopsis of the race @SS454.

    This race before and after was SOOOOOOOOO hyped that I must say I am embarrassed...............but it sold the show to its people.

    1) Who's going to pay anywhere from $14k to $18k for tickets if it's not in the VIP section or Paddock Club......sheeeeesh.
    2) The party the night before (Thursday) was lame with the DJ at the track. You can watch it on YouTube.
    3) Celebrities.....okay I get it but they are either unknowledgable about F1 or TOOOOO wrapped up in themselves in their own
    little world that the Brundle grid walk was utterly useless......except with Jean Alesi.
    4) The police escort to the podium........FFS!!!!!!!
    5) Football helmets at the podium ceremony......REALLY!!!!!
    6) The fake harbor with fake water was just an indication leading up to the GP.
    7) Food prices at the track were exhorbantly expensive.....like a 10,000% markup...........no thank you.

    Vegas is next year and I feel it's going to be 10x worse than Miami before and after the race. I wonder what fake comedic contraption they are going to setup.
    1 thru 7 you never mention how the race went? Nothing else really counts more than how the race went and who got the points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Singer View Post
    This is where F1 is heading..

    I know that all major sports are now all about money, more so than ever, but, particularly for old farts like me [who can remember sneaking into the paddock on a practice evening and walking around the garage, photographing drivers, cars and mechanics!], it's awful seeing all the vacuous, preening 'celebrities' - most of whom wouldn't know a rear wing from a hamburger - wandering about while a fawning media hangs on their every word!

    Don't start me off on fake water - Jesus!

    It'll only get worse. For me - apart from the Deja Vue 'club' - is it still there? - Vegas means the talking 'Roman statues'! It's going to be GHASTLY!

    Sir Lew will be in his element!
    Just to make you feel less uncomfortable, you are not the only old fart who shares your views emphatically!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrari1.8t View Post
    The rules are set up in a way that would never let anyone take over 100 wins with 0 competition again.
    That sounds totally correct! Masi got caught doing just that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Singer View Post
    This is where F1 is heading..

    I know that all major sports are now all about money, more so than ever, but, particularly for old farts like me [who can remember sneaking into the paddock on a practice evening and walking around the garage, photographing drivers, cars and mechanics!], it's awful seeing all the vacuous, preening 'celebrities' - most of whom wouldn't know a rear wing from a hamburger - wandering about while a fawning media hangs on their every word!

    Don't start me off on fake water - Jesus!

    It'll only get worse. For me - apart from the Deja Vue 'club' - is it still there? - Vegas means the talking 'Roman statues'! It's going to be GHASTLY!

    Sir Lew will be in his element!
    Every word!!!! Bravo!!!!

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