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    Quote Originally Posted by PURE PASSION View Post
    Dont know. Im a bit concerned about tire management. Both drivers reported high degradation.
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    If it’s high deg, ferrari wouldn’t have improved on their 2nd run of Softs.
    Max did try second run of Sots but couldn’t improve.

    I assume it’s down low engine settings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PURE PASSION View Post
    Dont know. Im a bit concerned about tire management. Both drivers reported high degradation.
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    If itís high deg, ferrari wouldnít have improved on their 2nd run of Softs.
    Max did try second run of Sots but couldnít improve.

    I assume itís down low engine settings.

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    The hot weather will degrade everybody's tyres, he who manages them best wins.Mother nature will have some say in this.Go slow and manage tyres you loose go out guns blazing and your tyres will fall apart, its a balancing act with tyre management.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    If it’s high deg, ferrari wouldn’t have improved on their 2nd run of Softs.
    Max did try second run of Sots but couldn’t improve.

    I assume it’s down low engine settings.
    you refer to low guel runs. Yes till ten it looked quite good. But then on high fuel we run low to high 1:38s while Max low to high 1:37s.
    now 1st we started earlier and run mugh bigger stint (almost twice te laps) and 2nd yes we migt run lower on the engines then RBR. In Spain and Austria we had a simular picture o FPs and come Sunday we where much better. Just my only concern is this (except of course the reliability issues) .Do dont have the picture of Imola-Miami tire wise.
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    Οκ according to scuderiafans.com our "poor" race pace was only down to lower power settings!!!
    Very impressive race sim for Red Bull. Mercedes has older Mediums so their pace isn’t that bad actually, but they aren’t on the same level as Red Bull.

    Ferrari seemingly with bad race pace, although Charles Leclerc had some laps in the middle that were compromised by traffic, laps 3-4-5-6. Lap 2 to lap 7 for Charles show similar degradation as to what Red Bull saw with Verstappen. So why is Ferrari slow? Same story as FP1. Ferrari isn’t pushing the engine in the race sim and losing quite a lot of time in the straights, speed advantage in corners for Ferrari is still all there, a sign that tyres haven’t degraded too much.
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    Sainz taking a 10 place grid penalty due to new engine component.
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    Following the conclusion of the second free practice session at the Circuit Paul Ricard, British former racing driver and current television announcer for Sky Sports F1 Johnny Herbert felt that, as it stands, Ferrari are the team to beat in France.

    He said: “Ferrari’s car has very good balance and it is also very soft on it’s tyres. When you have tyre degradation like you do at the circuit here in France, where it’s very high, that’s where the Ferrari is probably going to gain that little bit more. The Ferrari just has a very soft rotation and a much, much softer way of loading up the tyre.” – he explained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPZ View Post
    Sainz taking a 10 place grid penalty due to new engine component.
    He will take further engine penalty as well. Just they will confirm at last moment.

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    Ferrari: the new fund works well. Introduction initially planned in Hungary, great work to be able to have the second model already in France. On the F1-75 there is work to be done to limit graining. Confident Leclerc

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    Quote Originally Posted by gvera View Post
    It's not that simple, it's how you optimise resources and how much you spent in the initial project hence how much you have to spend in upgrades.
    There isn't a specific budget for upgrades.
    That was my original concern, because Ferrari had more windtunnel and CFD time than others, they may have eaten (most likely the case) more of their budget pre-launch, leaving less for developments vs RB...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RossTheBoss View Post
    Cost are based on the labor of the engineers and design team, and all top teams are paying comparable salary rates. One team might be able to afford one upgrade package more, but Mercedes have been bringing expensive parts almost every race, while keeping in my mind that also brought two concept designs to early season testing to start with.

    They're clearly just going to cook the books. It's what high paid accountants do. Those accountants can literally take tens of millions, and make it look like chump change. They do it for rich people to avoid paying taxes all the time. It's no thing for them.

    Binotto brought attention to how much Mercedes and Red Bull are spending, so they can't turn around and complain if Ferrari do the same in kind.
    Careful, I'm an accountant, we can't just cook the books, in most countries, accountants can't actually commit fraud and retain their designations. In Canada, a CPA loses their designation if they commit fraud.
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    Well regardless if mercedes are cooking there so called books, they can cook them all they like because its not equating to an on track winning car.By the time this happens the entire season would have been cooked proper, like done and dusted.

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    Carlos Sainz might get the pole today. he was so fast in the practice session

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    Quote Originally Posted by stasera View Post
    Carlos Sainz might get the pole today. he was so fast in the practice session
    He will start from the back og the grid ,so no point to try anyhting. He will most possibly set a time in Q1 and thats it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PURE PASSION View Post
    He will start from the back og the grid ,so no point to try anyhting. He will most possibly set a time in Q1 and thats it.
    We haven't taken any new parts today

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aziz View Post
    We haven't taken any new parts today
    Yep, 4th ice etc
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    Very off session for us. RB looks dialled in compared to us today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gump1480 View Post
    Very off session for us. RB looks dialled in compared to us today.
    Yeh , its strange how things can change from 1 day to another. Its not that RedBull find their set-up and tey are fast , but that we went a step back. Of corse all this is what we see now in FP3
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    What a load of crap mate ferrari have done better than expected and baring some season issues which some could have been managed better ferrari would be a mile ahead dialled in my ****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gump1480 View Post
    Very off session for us. RB looks dialled in compared to us today.
    Yeah. Red Bull look to be back on their game and favorites this weekend again.

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    Our pace yesterday is gone

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    For example yesterday we could push on the 2nd lap and te tires where great, now on Lec the tires where not great on the 1st lap and they are gone on the 2nd.
    Ves has no problems today and easily can be infront. Lets see in Qualy if it changes again
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    Quote Originally Posted by elnano14 View Post
    Our pace yesterday is gone
    We had slower race pace than Red Bull yesterday, too.

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    Since front row for Charles is nearly a given the most important thing is to be able to keep the mediums and hards alive. If this slow on the single lap and still getting rolled away from tomorrow that's a disaster on the other hand.

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    I just followed what Charles was doing at the end. One push lap then one cooldown lap and so on. Each push lap was very fast. In S2 the times were almost the same each time (28.4). I'm hoping we still haven't turned up the engine as much as Red Bull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RossTheBoss View Post
    We had slower race pace than Red Bull yesterday, too.
    We have been behind Red Bull in race pace simulation in FP2 all season until Sunday, idk why are people pointing this as a big problem. Every week we see the same in FP2. Just this FP3 have some strange things that make me worry about 1 lap pace

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    Just saw results.... What has happend?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    Just saw results.... What has happend?!?!
    Nothing much Ö itís same as previous weeks. Just wait for quali.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Nothing much … it’s same as previous weeks. Just wait for quali.
    OK...

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    RB with Low DF package (which they used in Jeddah) vs Ferrari Medium DF package.

    Ferrari did bring new floor to this race. I assume both used it in FP3.

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