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Thread: FORMULA 1 PIRELLI GRAN PREMIO D’ITALIA 2022 - Race Thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Car was stuck in gear, are you dense?
    Are you dense, or did you suffer a brain injury as a child?

    Maybe try watching a racing series other than F1. You'll see that Indycar, IMSA, Super GT, and tons of other racing series are smart enough to have wreckers and cranes on all sides of a track, and can get get one car moved in *snap fingers* two or three laps.

    I've said it before, I'll say it again. F1 has the greatest innovation when it comes to the cars. But when it comes to marshalling, cleaning up simple accidents, fires, and general safety, they are behind the rest of the motorsports world, and have been for decades.

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    Had no answer for the speed of red bull, tyre management was a bit better but still nothing compared to those around us.

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    Why are they booing Max? Boo Hamilton and keep the tradition in tact

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheeseman View Post
    If we cry about having a red flag we are just like Mercedes crying in Abu Dhabi. There was no safety concern to red flag the race hence why it was a sfatey car. Tye race ran oit of laps and it's just bad luck. Nothing else to say about it
    Not like that! What I am thinking, if something like this happen, like 10 laps from the end, it is better to red flagged it and than restart it, than to spent all those laps for nothing. You know that cheapest ticket is 100 EUR!? I am sure people would like to see racing, not parade for that money!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    I feel you there. Because we all sensed hope, and than reality slapped us across the face!!!
    Exactly right. When the car is garbage and two seconds off the pace you don’t expect anything. Finally they build a great car and you really feel like this could be it then they sit on their hands while others develop and make constant mistakes in strategy and you end up screaming at and genuinely thinking of shooting the television.

    Then you see the look at Charles’ face and you want to cry for him. The kid is a rock star and has no support from the team because the TP is a total tool.

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    Fans rightfully booing…garbage way to end a race. Liberty and the FIA should be ashamed. You wanted to be entertainment, but you end a race like this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drax View Post
    Singapore next, our best chance
    No… RB is faster race car. Ferrari 2nd or 3rd fastest car now because of Race pace (Tyre Deg is heavier for them).

    Ferrari need to find solution & fix. That’s it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01 View Post
    Exactly right. When the car is garbage and two seconds off the pace you don’t expect anything. Finally they build a great car and you really feel like this could be it then they sit on their hands while others develop and make constant mistakes in strategy and you end up screaming at and genuinely thinking of shooting the television.

    Then you see the look at Charles’ face and you want to cry for him. The kid is a rock star and has no support from the team because the TP is a total tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RossTheBoss View Post

    Maybe try watching a racing series other than F1. You'll see that Indycar, IMSA, Super GT, and tons of other racing series are smart enough to have wreckers and cranes on all sides of a track, and can get get one car moved in *snap fingers* two or three laps.

    I've said it before, I'll say it again. F1 has the greatest innovation when it comes to the cars. But when it comes to marshalling, cleaning up simple accidents, fires, and general safety, they are behind the rest of the motorsports world, and have been for decades.
    You forgot wiping the track off dry with a fleet of trucks with turbines and scrubbers.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SB92 View Post
    He could still do it now so that the new TP uses the remainder of this season to get up to speed.
    Any sane f1 enthusiast is better than the donkey called b i n o t t o

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    The only way Ferrari can win next season title is built the car around Leclerc & give a strong race car. That’s it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hakanabi View Post
    Williams gets 2 points by their reserve driver.
    This means that as of now, Latifi is only ahead of a guy who raced only in the first 2 races in the entire year IIRC.
    "I've always believed that you should never, ever give up and you should always keep fighting even when there's only a slightest chance." - Michael Schumacher

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    Ferrari knew they had a fast car at the very first race. What they've done this year with the development is unforgiveable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    Not like that! What I am thinking, if something like this happen, like 10 laps from the end, it is better to red flagged it and than restart it, than to spent all those laps for nothing. You know that cheapest ticket is 100 EUR!? I am sure people would like to see racing, not parade for that money!!!
    It would improve the show in that case I agree. On the other hand if we were at the front today and it finished in the same manner we wouldn't be questioning the safe car finish..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheeseman View Post
    It would improve the show in that case I agree. On the other hand if we were at the front today and it finished in the same manner we wouldn't be questioning the safe car finish..
    Agree. But honestly it would be entertaining

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    The only way Ferrari can win next season title is built the car around Leclerc & give a strong race car. That’s it.
    You and I saying the obvious is not going to matter. We can't influence Ferrari's decision.

    Right now the F1-75 is quite understeery in nature. Something Sainz likes. So we know whose preference Binotto has prioritized this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    You forgot wiping the track off dry with a fleet of trucks with turbines and scrubbers.
    I said that if Romain Grosjean's fire happened on any other lap than the first lap, he'd have been done for with F1's "safety" marshals. Jules Bianchi would've happened in no other racing series. FIA "safety" and the cheap standards they have are incredibly dangerous. There's a reason series like Indycar have a traveling safety crew of specialists.

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    Look at the tifosi, even with a P2! Amazing passion!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RossTheBoss View Post
    Are you dense, or did you suffer a brain injury as a child?

    Maybe try watching a racing series other than F1. You'll see that Indycar, IMSA, Super GT, and tons of other racing series are smart enough to have wreckers and cranes on all sides of a track, and can get get one car moved in *snap fingers* two or three laps.

    I've said it before, I'll say it again. F1 has the greatest innovation when it comes to the cars. But when it comes to marshalling, cleaning up simple accidents, fires, and general safety, they are behind the rest of the motorsports world, and have been for decades.
    How would they have cranes all around Monza, it's in a park. Calling marshals clowns because a car was stuck in gear is rather stupid.
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    Watching Charles in the cool down room enrages me to the point of madness.

    I’m beside myself seeing how Binotto has failed Charles. Makes me want to mag dump into the TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    The only way Ferrari can win next season title is built the car around Leclerc & give a strong race car. That’s it.
    Damn straight. You can't build a car that can win tons of races via your star driver, when your star driver has to compete against the needs of his slower teammate.

    Schumacher, Vettel, Hamilton, and Max, all the cars built around them, and it showed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01 View Post
    Watching Charles in the cool down room enrages me to the point of madness.

    I’m beside myself seeing how Binotto has failed Charles. Makes me want to mag dump into the TV.
    Mag dump?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    You forgot wiping the track off dry with a fleet of trucks with turbines and scrubbers.
    Yeah F1 does not have them.....mind you F1 races in the wet and not sit in the pits unlike some other motorsports.
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    Max and Red Bull kicked our ass this year...tough year ...hard seeing him winner in Monza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    You and I saying the obvious is not going to matter. We can't influence Ferrari's decision.

    Right now the F1-75 is quite understeery in nature. Something Sainz likes. So we know whose preference Binotto has prioritized this year.
    Why do you hate Sainz so much? Of all the people you choose to scapegoat a driver lol? All good drivers can adjust. Are you even a ferrari fan or just someone like brembo.

    The team's policy towards leclerc should be the least of our worries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RossTheBoss View Post
    Mag dump?
    Yeah. The whole 60rd Magpul drum mag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    How would they have cranes all around Monza, it's in a park. Calling marshals clowns because a car was stuck in gear is rather stupid.
    Ever heard of a tow truck? Every racing series uses them and seldom ever use big cranes to move a car, even though they bring those, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01 View Post
    Yeah. The whole 60rd Magpul drum mag.
    Ah! Texan, I see.

    Howdy from Dallas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RossTheBoss View Post
    Ever heard of a tow truck? Every racing series uses them and seldom ever use big cranes to move a car, even though they bring those, too.


    Go for a lie down.

    Hint, car stuck in gear still does not move with a tow truck, without causing much more damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    You and I saying the obvious is not going to matter. We can't influence Ferrari's decision.

    Right now the F1-75 is quite understeery in nature. Something Sainz likes. So we know whose preference Binotto has prioritized this year.
    Most championship winning cars post 1995 are understeery in nature. Being understeery is an indication of having high downforce level and for cars which already have a competitive engine, the best possible car is the one that has the downforce level to match it or else you end up with SF90 2.0.
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