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    The Liberty media wanted to bring the race forward and not have it in August, but Japanese organizers refused to budge.

    I'd say drop Suzuka and go elsewhere. There are many great tracks out there, e.g: Sepang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    The Liberty media wanted to bring the race forward and not have it in August, but Japanese organizers refused to budge.

    I'd say drop Suzuka and go elsewhere. There are many great tracks out there, e.g: Sepang.
    I disagree. I would suggest reschedule the race where it is not during the monsoon season regardless of what the race organizers suggest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    The Liberty media wanted to bring the race forward and not have it in August, but Japanese organizers refused to budge.

    I'd say drop Suzuka and go elsewhere. There are many great tracks out there, e.g: Sepang.
    Exactly my thought. Whenever we race here, itís always a controversy + I donít see any dry conditions at all.
    Itís better to skip the track rather than wasting the time & driver safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    I disagree. I would suggest reschedule the race where it is not during the monsoon season regardless of what the race organizers suggest.
    October is not the monsoon season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    I disagree. I would suggest reschedule the race where it is not during the monsoon season regardless of what the race organizers suggest.
    If that’s the case, simply they would have preponed the race a 1hr earlier where it didn’t rain.
    For today’s race, weather report suggested it’s rainy during this time, then why not push the schedule early?

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    Binotto: in dry conditions we had with 2 sets of Medium tires aside… instead it will be wet. The degradation on Intermedie is high here " (On Budget cap) "The F1-75 was designed respecting the limits"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    October is not the monsoon season.
    Or the rainy season. Suzuka is mostly a wet race during this time of year.
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    Seems Gasly passed a red flag signal and a red flag button on his steering wheel WHILE passing the tractor on the track. Gasly was driving faster than the rest of the field behind the safety car because he was trying to catch up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Seems Gasly passed a red flag signal and a red flag button on his steering wheel WHILE passing the tractor on the track. Gasly was driving faster than the rest of the field behind the safety car because he was trying to catch up.
    Still, you cannot have a tractor bang on race track when a car is out there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rishu View Post
    Still, you cannot have a tractor bang on race track when a car is out there
    agreed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Seems Gasly passed a red flag signal and a red flag button on his steering wheel WHILE passing the tractor on the track. Gasly was driving faster than the rest of the field behind the safety car because he was trying to catch up.
    Red Flag was thrown about 0.5 seconds before he encountered the tractor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Red Flag was thrown about 0.5 seconds before he encountered the tractor.
    Gasly being investigated for speeding under red flag conditions (reaching speeds of 250kph) when completing the lap under the red flag after passing the scene of the incident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Gasly being investigated for speeding under red flag conditions (reaching speeds of 250kph) when completing the lap under the red flag after passing the scene of the incident.
    Does not make it ok for the tractor to be there.
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    Only 1 hour 30 mins left can't see there being any racing tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Does not make it ok for the tractor to be there.
    The whole blame is not on the recovery vehicle. Maybe the recovery vehicle needs brighter lights under these conditions so drivers can see the vehicle better.

    At the same time, driving too fast under these conditions given the red flag conditions on the signals on the side of the track and on Gasly's steering wheel is also a factor.

    Jules was driving too fast under the same conditions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    The whole blame is not on the recovery vehicle. Maybe the recovery vehicle needs brighter lights under these conditions so drivers can see the vehicle better.

    At the same time, driving too fast under these conditions given the red flag conditions on the signals on the side of the track and on Gasly's steering wheel is also a factor.
    Wow you are incredible.

    Red Flag was given half a second before Gasly got to the tractor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rishu View Post
    His father is comparing Suzuka 2022 and Suzuka 2014. Jules was driving faster than 250kph and under VSC/SC conditions while the track was wet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    His father is comparing Suzuka 2022 and Suzuka 2014. Jules was driving faster than 250kph and under VSC/SC conditions while the track was wet.
    Go away.
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    Both parties to blame race control and rather reckless by Pierre to be driving at such a speed in those atrocious conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    His father is comparing Suzuka 2022 and Suzuka 2014. Jules was driving faster than 250kph and under VSC/SC conditions while the track was wet.
    I think itís the tractor on the race track, that is what he is comparing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Go away.
    So you think the tractor hauling off Sutil's car on the Dunlop curve and under VSC/SC at Suzuka 2014 was the race controls fault for having a tractor on the track??
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    I don't think we'll have a race today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rishu View Post
    I think it’s the tractor on the race track, that is what he is comparing
    Completely different situations given Suzuka 2014 and Suzuka 2022.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    So you think the tractor hauling off Sutil's car on the Dunlop curve and under VSC/SC at Suzuka 2014 was the race controls fault for having a tractor on the track??
    Yes I do and the lesson should have been learned.
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    Is there any news about repairing Carlos car?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decoded View Post
    Is there any news about repairing Carlos car?
    Car just returned to garage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Yes I do and the lesson should have been learned.
    Do you have any idea what Jules impact was with regards to g-forces was when he hit the tractor?

    Do you have any idea what the safety conditions were on the track when Jules hit the tractor?

    Or that just doesn't matter? According to you, what happened at Suzuka in 2014 was that a tractor was off the track hauling Sutils car off the dirt/gravel portion of the track next to the tire barriers or armco and therefore it's race control fault for having a tractor (off track) hauling another car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Do you have any idea what Jules impact was with regards to g-forces was when he hit the tractor?

    Do you have any idea what the safety conditions where on the track when Jules hit the tractor?

    Or that just doesn't matter? According to you, what happened at Suzuka in 2014 was that a tractor was off the track hauling Sutils car off the dirt/gravel portion of the track next to the tire barriers or armco.
    I know all about it, lessons should have been learned.

    Seems every driver is in agreement that it should not have happened, so I will accept their views long before your armchair garbage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    I know all about it, lessons should have been learned.

    Seems every driver is in agreement that it should not have happened, so I will accept their views long before your armchair garbage.
    So you don't believe in slowing down at Suzuka 2014 with regards to Jules incident???

    And what if the FIA gives Gasly a reprimand or penalty for driving too fast??
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