2022 USA Grand Prix - Race Thread

[Greig]

Yeah Perez has burned his tyres, Max still under pressure

[ferrari1.8t]

Looks like we might be able to hold off Perez

Luckily he’s useless and failing behind Charles

Hamilton crying as usual for a Verstappen penalty

[Greig]

Good job Charles, car just not good enough. Great move on Perez and nice racing with Max.

[Greig]

Well done Seb

[tifosi1993]

Well done Charles. P3.

Congrats to Red Bull for winning the WCC. A well-deserved prize for the best team of 2022.

[Hornet]

A good race for Charles all things considered

[drax]

We really need to improve our tire management, sad for Carlos no fault of him … Russel is starting to get on my nerves

[patrese86]

Think we did the maximum today considering Carlos got took out by that dirty move by Russell.

We need to fix the tyre issues for next season, I know I say it every race but it's imperative now. We can only push for a few laps before they go off. If we do not fix this next season then we need new leadership. That's where I stand.

[Schumiklub]

Tyre management ruining the race again, and no chance to fix it this season. But at least we identified the issue. Charles did an amazing job and Carlos was just unlucky.

[Cheeseman]

Shame about our race pace. It's really odd we can compete for pole quite easily but it's a dog in the race

[alfaromeo]

The difference in speed between qualifying and the race is a problem for Ferrari. In fact, they are 100% champions in qualifying and the speed drops drastically in the race, especially against Mercedes. I hope they know and fix it in 2023.

[Aziz]

This car has 11 poles from 18 race ffs

[Aziz]

The difference in speed between qualifying and the race is a problem for Ferrari. In fact, they are 100% champions in qualifying and the speed drops drastically in the race, especially against Mercedes. I hope they know and fix it in 2023.

I believe this is engine related

[nani_s23]

I believe this is engine related

It’s related to Race pace & Tyre management.
Ferrari -> Saturday Car
RB -> Sunday Car

Unfortunately points are given only on Sunday

[nani_s23]

Good drive from Charles…. Hope These kind of races (comeback) I want to see from him.

Unfortunately we don’t have better tyre management as of Mercs & RB.

[stefa]

Just got back from a great show from GODSMACK. I see i didn't miss anything

[WS6TransAm01]

Just got back from a great show from GODSMACK. I see i didn't miss anything

I was drinking at Kid Rock’s bar in Nashville and listening to a great cover band.

I’m with ya. Missed nothing. Another poor showing by Ferrari. So glad this crap is coming to an end tho I can’t imagine ‘23 being any better under the current management. Oh well.

[Whatsyourangle]

Ferrari in 2022 has beem a dime short of a dollar...well maybe a quarter. Hardware doesn't really help in race trim and the guys at the steering wheels are error-prone, sadly.

[FerrariF60]

It’s related to Race pace & Tyre management.
Ferrari -> Saturday Car
RB -> Sunday Car

Unfortunately points are given only on Sunday

yeah, but up until the TD 39, Ferrari had a car that was great both on saturday and sunday....we used to be so gentle on tire wear on sundays.....the TD come mid year screwed us BIG TIME....hopefully Ferrari know how to remedy this come 2023

[nani_s23]

yeah, but up until the TD 39, Ferrari had a car that was great both on saturday and sunday....we used to be so gentle on tire wear on sundays.....the TD come mid year screwed us BIG TIME....hopefully Ferrari know how to remedy this come 2023

Agreeing to TD39 is biggest mistake when you predict it hurts us or you should be having counter measure for that. Problem with Ferrari/Mattia is we were very limited on development. Counting on budget cap isn’t right approach.

Now even if RB are penalised with what so called 25% or 30% limited wind tunnel It doesn’t matter. RB are way ahead & rumour say they already have light weight chassis for next season. All this combination is showing towards RB era domination.

[aroutis]

A good race for Charles all things considered

From 12th to 3rd , with a car that still eats tyres too fast.
I cannot see what else he could've done.

[tifosi1993]

yeah, but up until the TD 39, Ferrari had a car that was great both on saturday and sunday....we used to be so gentle on tire wear on sundays.....the TD come mid year screwed us BIG TIME....hopefully Ferrari know how to remedy this come 2023

Even Jock Clear in his recent interview pretty much confirmed it. The F1-75 is a different car after the TD39, doesn't matter how much Binotto tried to spin it otherwise.

[tifosi1993]

The pace is there. But the car is too harsh on its tyres. As I've said it before, right now the F1-75 is pretty much behaving like the Mercedes of 2013, thanks to the TD39 and Binotto's failure as the team leader.

[jgonzalesm6]

It’s related to Race pace & Tyre management.
Ferrari -> Saturday Car
RB -> Sunday Car

Unfortunately points are given only on Sunday

+1

Agreeing to TD39 is biggest mistake when you predict it hurts us or you should be having counter measure for that. Problem with Ferrari/Mattia is we were very limited on development. Counting on budget cap isn’t right approach.

Now even if RB are penalised with what so called 25% or 30% limited wind tunnel It doesn’t matter. RB are way ahead & rumour say they already have light weight chassis for next season. All this combination is showing towards RB era domination.

+1

From 12th to 3rd , with a car that still eats tyres too fast.
I cannot see what else he could've done.

+16

Even Jock Clear in his recent interview pretty much confirmed it. The F1-75 is a different car after the TD39, doesn't matter how much Binotto tried to spin it otherwise.

The pace is there. But the car is too harsh on its tyres. As I've said it before, right now the F1-75 is pretty much behaving like the Mercedes of 2013, thanks to the TD39 and Binotto's failure as the team leader.

+1

[killer]

Well done, Charles.

Horrible, horrible officiating yet again.

[Greig]

1st stint on mediums we seemed pretty good and Charles was able to go pretty deep into the stint, the 2nd stint was not so good maybe he took too much out of them trying to keep ahead of Max?

[wisepie]

All things considered, a podium for Charles was an acceptable and well-earned result, shame for Carlos again and his luck is currently worse than Charles earlier in the season. Tyres again our big problem and even straight line pace against Merc and RB wasn't there. I assume it wasn't the upgraded for reliability/power hike ICE in Charles' car, just a new current one. 12th to 3rd was better than expected, though.

[killer]

1st stint on mediums we seemed pretty good and Charles was able to go pretty deep into the stint, the 2nd stint was not so good maybe he took too much out of them trying to keep ahead of Max?

Yes it did. I was optimistic for the mediums at the end because the pits had reported deg was less than they expected… the car still ate through them anyway. Charles kept -1s for several laps after he was overtaken but then suddenly dropped to +2s and change in a lap.

[killer]

So Alonso penalized.

T-bone the pole sitter at the first corner and get a 5-second penalty; have a loose wing mirror and get 30. You can also drive around with a loose endplate at no cost unless you are Kevin Magnussen.

Race officiating well and truly in shambles.

[aroutis]

Yes it did. I was optimistic for the mediums at the end because the pits had reported deg was less than they expected… the car still ate through them anyway. Charles kept -1s for several laps after he was overtaken but then suddenly dropped to +2s and change in a lap.

Maybe we 're doing a good job to eliminate the tyre degradation. We'll see at the next GP.
Let's be optimistic.