2022 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Race Thread

[WS6TransAm01]

They only reason Perez couldn’t make his strategy work is because he’s a second string driver.

The only reason Charles’ strategy worked is because Charles is a phenomenal driver. The strategy was wrong. Charles’ abilities once again save face for the morons on the pit wall.

[stasera]

They only reason Perez couldn’t make his strategy work is because he’s a second string driver.

The only reason Charles’ strategy worked is because Charles is a phenomenal driver. The strategy was wrong. Charles’ abilities once again save face for the morons on the pit wall.

%100 agree.

one-stop strategy didnt work today- except for that of Leclerc

[Greig]

%100 agree.

one-stop strategy didnt work today- except for that of Leclerc

And the race winner?

[Cavallino]

Firstly, I think that Charles just put in one of the best tyre management performances we have seen in this F1 era. His name should go alongside that of Hamilton/Perez or whoever else is Sky F1's current "Tyre management kind du jure" is. In a car that is known to eat it's tyres non the less. Sky F1 should hail Charles as the "Tyre Management King", but they won't.

[WS6TransAm01]

And the race winner?

It worked for him because the RBR is THAT much better than the rest.

Come on dude, just stop.

[Cavallino]

also, we tend to put too much emphasis on strategy. I think either strategy would have gotten Charles second today. But what the one stopper gives you, that many fail to recognize, is the position for the safety car which almost happened.

also that llittle shunt between Mick and Latiffi happened right in front of Leclerc and cost Leclerc about 2-3 seconds. So it looked a lot closer than it really should have been

[stasera]

And the race winner?

lol because second one i mean leclerc had one-pit strategy, may be thats why max's one stop worked well? because p2 guy didnt stop second time? thats what im saying here. if we have pitted leclerc we could have fought for p1 with verstappen. because we could have forced max to pit again. we are fast on the hards as hell. but with the medium or the softs, they (rb) are not our rival. they beat us so bad.


you are being funny dude, like binotto. RB is unrivaled, there is no rival for them. their cars are the fastest on the grid. they dont even need to change tyre. they can race with softs more than 30 laps. having pit is obligatory, thats why they are pitting.

[Cavallino]

lol because second one i mean leclerc had one-pit strategy, may be thats why max's one stop worked well? because p2 guy didnt stop second time? thats what im saying here. if we have pitted leclerc we could have fought for p1 with verstappen. because we could have forced max to pit again. we are fast on the hards as hell. but with the medium or the softs, they (rb) are not our rival. they beat us so bad.


you are being clown dude, like binotto. RB is unrivaled, there is no rival for them. their cars are the fastest on the grid. they dont even need to change tyre. they can race with soft more than 30 laps. having pit is obligatory, thats why they are pitting.

you just said we are better on hards, so your master plan is to pit to softs or mediums, so then Max covers you off, and now we are fighting against him on our weaker tyre? and what if a safety car happens? 1-2 red bull.

[stasera]

you just said we are better on hards, so your master plan is to pit to softs or mediums, so then Max covers you off, and now we are fighting against him on our weaker tyre? and what if a safety car happens? 1-2 red bull.

my strategy would be medium-hard-hard (early pit of course, to get rid of mediums as much as possible)

[Greig]

you just said we are better on hards, so your master plan is to pit to softs or mediums, so then Max covers you off, and now we are fighting against him on our weaker tyre? and what if a safety car happens? 1-2 red bull.

Ferrari done the best they could do today, splitting the Red Bulls, the win was never on for us. But it won't stop the hatred on here.

[Cavallino]

Ferrari done the best they could do today, splitting the Red Bulls, the win was never on for us. But it won't stop the hatred on here.

Ferrari was strong here, don't get me wrong. Quicker than Merc which many here think we wouldn't be. And Sky was so disappointed when they realized this, and tried their best to cover up for Merc and Hamilton.

[Cavallino]

and this race should show us, that if Red Bull continues to just update the car specifically for their DRS king, they WILL lose the constructors championship next season.

[Cavallino]

Ferrari was strong here, don't get me wrong. Quicker than Merc which many here think we wouldn't be. And Sky was so disappointed when they realized this, and tried their best to cover up for Merc and Hamilton.

you could also hear the disappointment and surprise is Brundel and Croft's voice when they realized Leclerc was faster than Chico!

[Cavallino]

yeah, we were close to the DRS king today, you give Charles 15-30bhp more that we know that engine has, and he's there, he's probably walking away with this race.

[Cheeseman]

If Charles did stop a second time and was taking chunks of time out of Max, Red Bull would have pitted him again and he would have run off into the distance. The win was never on today. Max was tyre managing and they had all scenarios covered

[Cavallino]

If Charles did stop a second time and was taking chunks of time out of Max, Red Bull would have pitted him again and he would have run off into the distance. The win was never on today. Max was tyre managing and they had all scenarios covered

exactly, but Ferrari had better race pace than we've seen, probably within .25-.5 of the DRS baby. It would have been nice to have this pace at a track where RB was off, like Brazil, and steal a win, but oh well

[stasera]

exactly, but Ferrari had better race pace than we've seen, probably within .25-.5 of the DRS baby. It would have been nice to have this pace at a track where RB was off, like Brazil, and steal a win, but oh well

its because the hards, while mediums were fresh we could not keep up the same pace not only against the RB but also against the Mercedes'. Just remember what george said on the radio. "tell lewis to push more, Ferraris look so slow" so lewis easily passed us and he cut a corner then he chased leclerc, he was about to take over leclerc but then he was told to give the position to sainz. then he fell apart from the convoy maybe he got damaged in the ground of the car.

after the first stops, we have gained pace and we came up to RB in terms of race pace, finally.

RB could have been faster with a strategy like soft-medium-medium or maybe medium-hard-medium. they used hards predominantly which brings them to come closer to us in terms of race pace.

BUT: i didnt believe that RB wanted to make Checo 2nd in the championship. perhaps they wanted to neglect some comments like, this championship has been won its because the car, not the driver. every driver and brand wants to win against its main rival. perhaps RB wanted Leclerc to be 2nd more than ferrari.

they were also said that, max will give tow for perez. But as Pérez came out of the pit, he asked about max on the radio. but the team said that "max's car has a problem, thats why he will leave after a while." they didnt give tow for perez as well.

[WS6TransAm01]

It’s sad to see Seb retire.

What’s most sad is that he never got a chance to win a ship with Ferrari.

I will feel the same regret when Fernando hangs up the overalls in 2058. lol

[JPZ]

I think 2nd place was the best result possible today.

Leclerc drove a phenomenal race and gave it his all to take 2nd place in the WDC.

Ferrari held on to 2nd in the WCC and this ends the season on a positive note.

[wisepie]

Never thought I would be ecstatic about a 2/4 finish and 2nd in both championships but today feels like a victory. Charles drove a great race to secure P2 in the WDC, fully deserved after all those laps on the hards, both he and Carlos had decent speed and brought the cars home to take P2 in the CWC after almost everyone (including me) thought Mercedes would steal it. The strategy was fine, as it worked this time, but a bit of a gamble, Charles managed his tyres well and the deg on the hards seemed acceptable. Not the result I had expected but more than happy to congratulate our drivers and team today.

[stasera]

I will try to explain how that strategy was that much bad.

Perez was already expected to overtake Leclerc, according to calculations from both Redbull and Ferrari. (remember what was said to leclerc on the radio from the pit wall, "we will be taken over," when leclerc asked them another stop is probably so late)

Lap 34(24), 19.9 seconds from Leclerc when Perez comes out of the pits. Perez needs to close an average of 0.830 (per lap) seconds to beat Leclerc.

lap 45(13), 10 seconds difference between perez and leclerc. Perez reduced the gap by 1 second per lap. Much more successful than the average given to him.


lap 46(12) the gap increased to 10.3. because when Perez passed Lewis on the 1st drs straight instead of the 2nd drs zone, Lewis got into a fight with him.

lap 47(11) Perez overtook Lewis. the difference is the same as the difference in lap 45. 10 seconds again.

Perez lost 2 seconds here, and also wore out his tires. After this point, he should have closed a gap of 0.9 seconds per lap. Here, too, he lost time with 2 cars that had to lap under blue flags. So in total he lost 3.5 seconds. 2 seconds is his own fault, 1.5 seconds is due to the vehicles he will ride. Moreover, on top of all this, Leclerc gave a great performance. According to calculations, Perez would catch Leclerc 3 laps before the finish and even would be ahead by 2-3 seconds.

That's a gamble when you have the tyre advantage. I also say that the tire advantage should be maintained, just like in Austria. I'm open to gambles when you need it but here we didnt need it, while we have same hard tyres life with RB, we are always better far away. why you are giving tire advantage to them when we and they are on hards.

You guys asked me what if SC comes. and they put softs?
no need SC for RB to put softs, they could have been used soft-medium-medium strategy or medium-hard-medium strategy at least for perez. they still would have overtaken us. but the sc would be for their advantage in every situation. because everyone would have gone for softs including us.

[Greig]

It’s sad to see Seb retire.

What’s most sad is that he never got a chance to win a ship with Ferrari.

I will feel the same regret when Fernando hangs up the overalls in 2058. lol

He had every chance to win it in 2018 but decided to throw it away, Alonso also had a very good chance but Grosjean put a stop to that.

You don't do well with things that happened longer than 5 mins ago....

[Greig]

Charles Leclerc #16
It was a good race. We executed it perfectly and, as we didn’t have the pure pace to beat our competitors, put pressure on them in the key moments, which paid off. It was a season full of ups and downs, but considering where we came from, we made a good step and can be satisfied with our progress. I want to thank the whole team, both back home at the factory at and at the track, for all their hard work and dedication. P2 in the Constructors’ means a lot and we don’t want to stop here. We have to keep our heads down and push as hard as we can this winter, with the target of winning the title next year.

Carlos Sainz #55
It was a solid race today. The start wasn’t clean but I managed to pull a nice overtake on the Mercedes at turn 6. Unfortunately, I lost time and tyre life behind Lewis and from then onwards we committed to the two stop strategy. Overall, it was a strong performance, with good teamwork to finish P2 with Charles in the drivers’ championship and P2 in the constructors’ championship, which was our target this weekend. It hasn’t been an easy season, especially the first half, but I’ve managed to recover the pace, and my feeling with the car has been much better in the second half. Even though we’ve only just finished the season, we are fully focused and motivated to push this winter and I am already looking forward to next year. Thank you to every single member of the team for your tremendous effort and determination and to every tifosi out there for your incredible support! Bring on 2023! Forza Ferrari!

Mattia Binotto, Team Principal & Managing Director
Second place in the Constructors’ and Drivers’ championships is down to all the hard work over the course of the season. This has been an important year, in which we had set ourselves the goal of getting back to being competitive and, in that, we have succeeded. However, we know, if we want to win the titles, there is still a lot of work to do. I congratulate the entire team, drivers, engineers, mechanics, here in Abu Dhabi and all those back home in Maranello, because they were able to stay focussed on our goals for this weekend. The season had its difficult moments, but overall it has been signifcant. We can put 2022 behind us knowing that we made a lot of progress and, as from Tuesday, we will start preparing for the new challenge that awaits us in 2023. I want to thank our fans for their unwavering support this season. Thank you also to Sebastian for everything he has given to Formula 1 and to Ferrari.

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Clearly he ain't a member here then....

[nani_s23]

Given the pace of Leclerc in the race, any strategy he would have come out on top of Perez.

Fact is Max doesn’t have Set of Mediums. Where as Leclerc had 1 New set of Hard & 1 new set of Mediums.

Any SC incident would have benefitted Leclerc over Max.

[stasera]

Given the pace of Leclerc in the race, any strategy he would have come out on top of Perez.

Fact is Max doesn’t have Set of Mediums. Where as Leclerc had 1 New set of Hard & 1 new set of Mediums.

Any SC incident would have benefitted Leclerc over Max.

they would have put on softs for Verstappen, so they could easily defeat us. the fact is, our car would eat mediums faster than their car eats softs. they can run with softs more than 30 laps!

SC would have benefitted Max more than leclerc, plus, perez could have passed leclerc with fresh softs

[FerrariF60]

He had every chance to win it in 2018 but decided to throw it away, Alonso also had a very good chance but Grosjean put a stop to that.

You don't do well with things that happened longer than 5 mins ago....

indeed spa 2012....that's when Alo lost the WDC

[Cavallino]

its because the hards, while mediums were fresh we could not keep up the same pace not only against the RB but also against the Mercedes'. Just remember what george said on the radio. "tell lewis to push more, Ferraris look so slow" so lewis easily passed us and he cut a corner then he chased leclerc, he was about to take over leclerc but then he was told to give the position to sainz. then he fell apart from the convoy maybe he got damaged in the ground of the car.

after the first stops, we have gained pace and we came up to RB in terms of race pace, finally.

RB could have been faster with a strategy like soft-medium-medium or maybe medium-hard-medium. they used hards predominantly which brings them to come closer to us in terms of race pace.

BUT: i didnt believe that RB wanted to make Checo 2nd in the championship. perhaps they wanted to neglect some comments like, this championship has been won its because the car, not the driver. every driver and brand wants to win against its main rival. perhaps RB wanted Leclerc to be 2nd more than ferrari.

they were also said that, max will give tow for perez. But as Pérez came out of the pit, he asked about max on the radio. but the team said that "max's car has a problem, thats why he will leave after a while." they didnt give tow for perez as well.

you fell for the Sky F1 disinformation

Mercedes were never in contention. They only looked that way because Lewis decided to give his illegal position back right before a DRS zone. It was ridiculous. They were no where once Sainz got out of DRS.

[Cavallino]

i'm so sick of Lewis, he always resorts to going off track rather than conceding position which he should have done in the Sainz incident, in hopes of a penalty in his favor... or contact... which usually goes in his favor too.

[stasera]

you fell for the Sky F1 disinformation

Mercedes were never in contention. They only looked that way because Lewis decided to give his illegal position back right before a DRS zone. It was ridiculous. They were no where once Sainz got out of DRS.

i dislike skysports and i never watch it. i watch dazn f1 for improving my spanish. I just said what george said on the radio. right? lewis' pace was not bad against sainz. sainz ws struggling with the mediums

and they were pretty strong on the mediums. but after the first pit windows, george got 5 sec. penalty, and lewis' car damaged. and everyone else put on these hards. no one expected mercs to overtake us when everyone else on the hards. thats all

in addition: lperez got out of drs against lec as well. our gap between mercs were not so much. they screwed up and could not find an opportunity to overtake us. lewis broke his car, after putting on the hards. they were not our rivals. they were our rivals till lewis broke his car

[stasera]

i'm so sick of Lewis, he always resorts to going off track rather than conceding position which he should have done in the Sainz incident, in hopes of a penalty in his favor... or contact... which usually goes in his favor too.

his car damaged and he got what he deserved, broken ground and cut power. sainz passed him clearly, but he cut the corner and started chasing leclerc. it was digusting