2023 USA (Miami) Grand Prix - Race Thread

[jgonzalesm6]

We gone backwards from 2022. That’s the hallmark of ferrari.

2018 was a good car, come 2019 they changed the design.

Gave up 2020 & 2021 to get 2022. We lost to RB.

We gave up 2022 2nd half for 2023, come 2023 we lost to RB/AM/Mercs.


Great progress.

Sarcasm??

[tifosi1993]

A drivers wekness is a trash car. No matter how good a driver you are, if you don't have the car, you will never win races and championships.

Max has proven his worth in subpar cars as well. His drive in the wets in Brazil was exceptional. Dry-Wet-One lap-Race lap, guy simply has no weakness.

[brucewayne]

We gone backwards from 2022. That’s the hallmark of ferrari.

2018 was a good car, come 2019 they changed the design.

Gave up 2020 & 2021 to get 2022. We lost to RB.

We gave up 2022 2nd half for 2023, come 2023 we lost to RB/AM/Mercs.


Great progress.

Year in year out, it's so painful to watch F1. Missing the MSC/Brawn/Todt era...

[Kyss4k]

I remember, how I wised here on the forums that I would love to see 2000s performance from Ferrari again. Someone told me that this can't happen anymore with all the restrictions in modern F1. Well...

[Aviamata]

Bad technical department, even before budget cap .

[tifosi1993]

What an awful race that was. Haas made a massive step forward with their new floor.

Ferrari on the other hand is going backwards yet again with their "upgrades".

[KimiBot]

DRS zones have been shortened for 2023...fyi.

1.6 s faster still, I think.

[tifosi1993]

We gone backwards from 2022. That’s the hallmark of ferrari.

2018 was a good car, come 2019 they changed the design.

Gave up 2020 & 2021 to get 2022. We lost to RB.

We gave up 2022 2nd half for 2023, come 2023 we lost to RB/AM/Mercs.


Great progress.

A "true" Italian team carrying the flag of Italy, that's all that matters.

[jgonzalesm6]

Max has proven his worth in subpar cars as well. His drive in the wets in Brazil was exceptional. Dry-Wet-One lap-Race lap, guy simply has no weakness.

+1

[jgonzalesm6]

1.6 s faster still, I think.

yep

[nani_s23]

Now I don’t believe the upgrades for Imola & Barcelona either would work.

[brucewayne]

Now I don’t believe the upgrades for Imola & Barcelona would work.

Did you have any faith before? I didn't tbh. Ferrari fans do suffer week in week out. And the most painful part is, there is no real hope.

[stasera]

we were far behind of Mercedes not to mention even RBs

[jgonzalesm6]

Did you have any faith before? I didn't tbh. Ferrari fans do suffer week in week out. And the most painful part is, there is no real hope.

For 15 years and still going!!!

[brucewayne]

we were far behind of Mercedes not to mention even RBs

We should stop talking about RB, we are behind AM and Mercedes. What a disaster!

[Kyss4k]

The team is not ready for winning. It'll be a long long time until we are the cream of the crop again IMO. Sadly the talent of Charles (even though he was bad this race) is being wasted.

[nani_s23]

Did you have any faith before? I didn't tbh. Ferrari fans do suffer week in week out. And the most painful part is, there is no real hope.

I expected atleast 0.1ths of improvement with that new floor. Instead looks like we are -0.5ths & lost to Mercs as well.

[Kyss4k]

I expected atleast 0.1ths of improvement with that new floor. Instead looks like we are -0.5ths & lost to Mercs as well.

Who will bring huge updates the next race, so maybe they'll lose more than that to give us a chance :))

[subfire91]

I expected atleast 0.1ths of improvement with that new floor. Instead looks like we are -0.5ths & lost to Mercs as well.

the floor wont do magic our problem is not there. from what i read the floor is able to generate enough DF for the car to be fast. Additionally if it was no better i dont believe they would use it.

Either way the major issue is that d*mn suspension. i dont understand how they designed and tested it. i really hope the new one fixes the issues and gives a significant boost.

That car on race trim is not just a sitting duck, is a duck stuck on reverse!

[nani_s23]

Verstappen 345 km/h
Perez 323 km/h

Leclerc 333 km/h
Gasly 319 km/h

Leclerc 331 km/h
Hamilton 318 km/h

[stasera]

we should not bring any updates anymore. spending money for this car is just wasting money for nothing.

[racingbradley]

we should not bring any updates anymore. spending money for this car is just wasting money for nothing.

So what should we do..........let all of the other teams bring their updates and wipe the floor with us.
Where there is life there is hope. maybe some of the upgrades will work and by mid season we could be........... dare I say winning!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kyss4k]

Oh jesus... Now heard the interviews with our drivers and we are absolutely clueless. We have no idea what is happening with the car. They are driving on a knife edge and the car feels different from corner to corner... no wonder Charles they are making mistakes.

[WS6TransAm01]

If any one of us performed this poorly at our jobs we would be packing our crap and being escorted out by security.

Whatever the problem is, being it leadership, lack of talent, etc, nothing is being done. Incompetence up and down the company. Upgrades are worthless, design progression doesn’t exist, no one is held responsible.

[paolo lalli]

Why bother venting week in week out it is what it is and it's really bad ferrari has the covid virus and anti viral are not working.Red bull to rewrite all f1 records,I Can any body see them loosing a race.?

[The Architect]

Great job by the lads. The new floor and rear wing kept us ahead of Alpine. Hopefully they keep up the good work.

[faloupas]

Just another sad weekend...
We had a small hope after the last race and now we are again where we started..
We sacrified 2020 and 2021 for that...and now come on...who lives until 2026?

[FerrariF60]

Here is my question:

In 2009 Braun solves the riddle of the rules.

2010 to 2013 Res Bull figured it out best.

2014 to 2020 Mercedes had no rivals.

2021 Red Bull finally caught Merc.

2022 and 2023 RBR solve the problem of the new regulations.

Ferrari is out to lunch.

It’s pathetic.

Mate, BIG update will come at Imola for Ferrari....as promised a while back, new modified sidepods, etc, etc...
We’ll see if they gonna be upgrades or downgrades as we’ve seen time and time again from Ferrari

So we’ll see if they gonna make it a stallion or a donkey...time will tell, but I ain’t gonna bet in nothing....lol

[Cavallino]

+1

[Cavallino]

listening to Charles yesterday he said something along the lines of "i asked for this setup".

I'm guessing his plan was to get pole, and then try to hang on to a podium, similar to Baku. He probably had a shot at it too. And we'd be speaking a different tune around these parts.

This is an odd track surface and not indicative of the true pace of the car. Reminds me a bit of France 2020?

At the same rate, they need to improve the setup window of the car.

Obviously, i'm ignoring that Red Bull is on another planet.