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    I’d support us pulling out of F1 until 26 so we can focus on getting rid of the rot. We cant carry on like this

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    Lol we even got slower than Mercedes by 0.7-0.8 seconds/lap

    And they called this Upgrade

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    I know it is still early in the season, but I am saying MV will win ALL the races!
    Any doubts? It’s easy 3rd & 4th title for him.

    Max 4 time WDC. On the other side, ferrari destroying leclerc career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01 View Post
    Would he though? He can’t keep up with Gasley all race.
    Get your eyes checked. He did keep up with Gasly and almost beat him, and it's not like Gasly was slower. The Alpine was pretty fast today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    top 4 on softs while Carlos is on hard...sums up another poor race strategy. Carlos is such a passive driver and will never look for an attacking race.
    He’s being realistic before start of the race itself. Where he mentioned, Merc & Perez will up there. Regarding Aston he wasn’t sure. It ended up in similar to his yesterday quali comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyss4k View Post
    They are doing literally the same laptimes mate.
    Sainz's middle stint on new mediums was slower than Charles's stint on softs, his last stint was also slower than Charles's. He was only faster in the first stint, when he had the softs and Charles was on hards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    Get your eyes checked. He did keep up with Gasly and almost beat him, and it's not like Gasly was slower. The Alpine was pretty fast today.
    We are not supposed to fighting Alpine . Unimaginable how fast we're going down from the top early last year
    Look like a dream team is coming

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    Get your eyes checked. He did keep up with Gasly and almost beat him, and it's not like Gasly was slower. The Alpine was pretty fast today.
    Almost is not good enough
    We should fighting with Perez / Mercedes in this track with those upgrades, not failing behind Alpine

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    RB & Mercs showing whey they are top teams. When things don’t turn up in quali, they will put a show in the race.
    Special mention to Mercs P2 & P3 ….!!

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    We're completely anihilated this season . Please stop be so optimistic anymore Fred . Clearly he is not the second Jean Todt
    Look like a dream team is coming

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    Traffic makes a big difference. Look at Norris, was P3 in qualifying but ended race in P17. The mid field and upper midfield were very close this race. Only the RB and Merc were ahead today, the rest were closely matched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviamata View Post
    We are not supposed to fighting Alpine . Unimaginable how fast we're going down from the top early last year
    Alphine did bring upgrade in Baku which did wonders for them & where as ferrari more or so same. It’s clear that Ferrari is 4th fastest team, soon if they don’t act will be leapfrogged by Alpine..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviamata View Post
    We are not supposed to fighting Alpine . Unimaginable how fast we're going down from the top early last year
    Sainz didn't fight the Alpine nor he had any trouble from them. Leclerc was forced to because of his pit lane start.

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    Ferrari
    1. Better focus on 2026
    2. Get more top engineers from other team (RB or Mercs)
    3. Lobby 2026 reg change to their strength

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    Traffic makes a big difference. Look at Norris, was P3 in qualifying but ended race in P17. The mid field and upper midfield were very close this race. Only the RB and Merc were ahead today, the rest were closely matched.
    Some of it is traffic.....but most of it is race pace and tire strategy.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    So we came to a point discussing if we are "the best of the rest "????!!!!! And we are ok with that ????
    FERRARI FOR EVER !!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Ferrari
    1. Better focus on 2026
    2. Get more top engineers from other team (RB or Mercs)
    3. Lobby 2026 reg change to their strength
    They better focusing on transform the team , changing the toxic policy , etc...
    Look like a dream team is coming

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    I am not sad or disappointed because this car is bad, so waiting for next year, maybe then, we`ll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    Get your eyes checked. He did keep up with Gasly and almost beat him, and it's not like Gasly was slower. The Alpine was pretty fast today.
    That’s the point! The ALPINE was faster than Ferrari. There were times where he was dropping back from Gasley on arguable better tires. The Ferrari was nowhere today. It’s a dump truck.

    Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. Almost doesn’t get him points or wins. Almost is worthless.

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    RACE


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    Quote Originally Posted by KimiBot View Post
    I am not sad or disappointed because this car is bad, so waiting for next year, maybe then, we`ll see.
    RB’s advantage is huge. They have more pace in hand. If there’s any challenger to them, it’s only Mercs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01 View Post
    That’s the point! The ALPINE was faster than Ferrari. There were times where he was dropping back from Gasley on arguable better tires. The Ferrari was nowhere today. It’s a dump truck.

    Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. Almost doesn’t get him points or wins. Almost is worthless.
    That's the reality right now. Venting or abusing the team is not going to change our result. We need to accept it because as fans, we can't do anything about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Ferrari
    1. Better focus on 2026
    2. Get more top engineers from other team (RB or Mercs)
    3. Lobby 2026 reg change to their strength
    And what exactly are their strengths? Aero or Engine? We always seem to be playing catch up in every regulations cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post

    My prediction is close Sain P5 and Charles P11 (P10) , the upgrade didn't do better
    Look like a dream team is coming

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    RB’s advantage is huge. They have more pace in hand. If there’s any challenger to them, it’s only Mercs.
    Well, Binotto is out now, so maybe next years car is a race car again, hope so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    That's the reality right now. Venting or abusing the team is not going to change our result. We need to accept it because as fans, we can't do anything about it.
    You can accpet it however you want. I won't accept mediocrity... Being a fan does not mean being happy with every result.

    "If he can't do it with Ferrari, well, he can't do it." - John Surtees

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Some of it is traffic.....but most of it is race pace and tire strategy.
    Charles did 25 laps on softs in the middle stint and had zero drop off. He overcame a 6 second deficit to Gasly in the last stint. The pace, as well as the degradation, was there. But his position masked it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    That's the reality right now. Venting or abusing the team is not going to change our result. We need to accept it because as fans, we can't do anything about it.
    But we really need to abusing THE HIGHER LEADER they're the real cause of all disasters in the last 10 years
    Look like a dream team is coming

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    No more words RIP ferrari .
    ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyss4k View Post
    You can accpet it however you want. I won't accept mediocrity... Being a fan does not mean being happy with every result.
    Your happiness doesn't matter to me. I saw some progress with the race pace and not gonna ignore beacuse of you or anyone else.

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