Jesus, the first sentence and you manage to make three mistakes! It's "too bad" not "to bad," my name is Vittorio with a double 't' and who the hell is Stella? It's stellar, you nitwit.
Your fawning of Hamilton on a Ferrari fan site is nauseating, to say the least. You're about as much a true tifoso as I am Mongolian. You would be so much better suited to a Hamilton/Mercedes fan club, you really would.
Lost your way and found yourself on a Ferrari fan site, is it? Poor snookums.
I agree on this.
Red Bull has their design philosophy and stay with it, and refines it year by year.
Mercedes is doing the same, using their earlier success as a baseline and refines it, no revolutions, perfects the imperfections.
But we make to harsh direction changes and needs to start from scratch with no prior knowledge every season, then we ditch it by the end. We nred to play the long game better.
CUT ME. CUT YOU. BOTH OUR BLOOD IS FERRARI RED!
Nothing tastes sweeter than a Ferrari victory when you're in Italy on Holiday
Bravo Bravo Bravissimo
:)
"If I was driving for Red Bull [from 2008] probably I would have more championships, but because they were dominating between 2010 and 2014 probably I would never have driven for Ferrari. I am very happy and very proud to drive for Ferrari, all my time there.
As for "dummy" pitstops. I personally don't understand the fuss about it. Sure, it looks silly and might be against the spirit of the rules (ethics) but let them do it. Let teams do it if they want to. If anyone gets fooled by it then that says more about the one that got fooled than the fooler who did it. You have to have your own strategy to begin with. If Merc did a "dummy" yesterday, it actually lost them the win. Ferrari will always take a 1-4 over a 2-3. First because it's a GP win for the history books and second, because it's more points (37 vs 33). If Merc did it, they just fooled themselves.
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In the early 2000s, The F2001, F2002, F2003GA, F2004 were all evolutions of each other. That's what we need to get back to.
Unless, they can find some huge innovation, like a double decker diffuser that brings in huge downforce gains without a drag penalty. Then we have to completely abandon this design.
Why is Mercedes the only team that does?
But what I will say is, I think we should stick to our own strategy more, and stop covering everyone elses' strategy calls. Because you simply can't cover everybody. In Austria, we covered Mercedes, but we couldn't cover Max. So we can't cover Mercedes, and whatever stupid stuff Max wants to do.
I don't think Ham would have passed Vettel on softs, it would have cost Ham time, just like it did later. So what I am proposing is that we double stack like Mercedes. Bring Vet in the same lap as Leclerc. A 1-2 was possible. If we stop compromising our strategy for dummy pitstops and to cover everyone else.
Yes, it seems Merc is doing it more than any other team these last few years? Why? Does it fool anyone? Maybe it has sometimes. Do they really need it? Wouldn't they win in the long run anyway? I pretty sure they would in this forrmula. So why do they do it? I don't know.
You have to start there, with your own strategy. Sure, there should always be room for a plan B, C or even D in any given situation but you have to have plan A, which you believe in. That should not be able to change because some Merc mechanics have ants in their pants. In reality, it's all done by computers since many years. Tyre wear, fuel load, the life of a compound, it's all calculated when you should pit. The only unknown is the driver and his ability on a given day and the weather at a given time.But what I will say is, I think we should stick to our own strategy more, and stop covering everyone elses' strategy calls. Because you simply can't cover everybody. In Austria, we covered Mercedes, but we couldn't cover Max. So we can't cover Mercedes, and whatever stupid stuff Max wants to do.
I re-watched that moment in the race. IF Merc did a "dummy" and fooled Ferrari to bring in Seb early, it actually lost them the win. Because after Seb's pitstop he was the fastest man on track when the top three were going slower and slower. So in the end when the the top three pitted he was ahead and could slow down Lewis (and Bottas). Since he knew he had to stop again that was his job, to slow down the Mercs. Had Merc not done the "dummy" he might have pitted later for a one-stopper (like Charles) and he probably would have been passed by Lewis and Bottas, but at the different moment in the race. A moment where he would be closer to Charles and because of that Merc might have got Charles too. Those 4-5 laps where Lewis couldn't get by were crucial and Merc might have brought it upon themselves. That's my analysys. Which is pretty funny if it's true. Like a Roadrunner cartoon.I don't think Ham would have passed Vettel on softs, it would have cost Ham time, just like it did later. So what I am proposing is that we double stack like Mercedes. Bring Vet in the same lap as Leclerc. A 1-2 was possible. If we stop compromising our strategy for dummy pitstops and to cover everyone else.
Can we keep this civil please? Name calling is unnecessary...
Rest in Peace Leza, you were a true warrior...
if you're saying that it would be in Merc's benefit to pit earlier, and force Ferrari into a longer stint on the mediums. I agree.
Because you either have to pit or be undercut. The question is, once behind, could Ferrari mount a challenge on medium tyres. idk. probably not.
That's what happens when a team is full of internal problems, politics and limited freedom of movement. I mentioned in the other thread that no amount of fund infusion can solve Ferrari's woes if the same working environment persists.
We have let go of quality guys who are now thriving in rival teams, namely Mercedes. We need to overhaul how things get done in the factory. We need strong leaders who can instill a winning culture at Ferrari. It's been awhile since they've won both titles but nothing can be fixed overnight. So enough of the blame game, enough of the internal politics and start working on a common goal and success will follow.
Could be the reason, yes. But in my opinion it's no so much having to do with actual compounds (soft, medium, hard) but rather the fact that at the end of stints Merc just work the "special tyres" better. As the laps go by they, Merc, are faster. So if they can push Ferrari (or Red Bull) out of the small window we still can operate in, then that is to their benefit. So did they pull a "dummy" around lap 15 and did that trigger bringing in Seb early? I think they did. I think they pulled a "dummy" and it backfired. I have only access to the world TV feed, so that's my source material. If someone else has another source from the race that shows other angles, please upload it.
Another thing. Look at the short conversation between Lewis and Mekies in the cool-down room. Lewis knew it backfired. Charles on the couch, Bottas with his back to the camera. That moment.
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Nothing compares to the hatred spewed here for a Ferrari driver named Rubens! Hatred is not strong enough a word. And he was driving for Ferrari !!!!! I wonder what was behind that? Meanwhile Lewis has nothing but praise and respect for Charles and his success in such a short time with a top team to boot. Lewis never once tried to say it was the car not Charles' driving that won the race.
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The drivers respect each other, they may not be dinner mates but they respect each becuase they know what they are doing to enterain us could also take life, so to see people here talk about dislike for someone at every oppotunity shows there is more to it. I wonder if he becomes Ferrari driver and win ferrari world championship what will they do??????.
A good question! Merc now has Michael as retiring from their team as the F-1 greatest. And as Toto said, it was Michael's know how and teaching that made them the team they are now. Lewis @ Ferrari retiring with 100 wins, 100 poles, 10 WDCs would be out of control great if that was to happen. If that happens @ Merc it will be a tough act to follow for any team for years to come. Ferrari fans welcomed Seb with his 4 WDCs and waving finger, with open arms , never again a bad word said about him. I can't see Merc ever letting Lewis go. So Ferrari fans can breath a sigh of relief and continue praising only Lewis' car for the wins. Entertainment wise , Lewis' push at the final laps last race made up for losing Max so early in the race. Monza !!!!!
I'm with you 100% ! Charles and Max are already ready . A home team win coming up !!!
Max mistake nobody highlighted... funny & still saying he’s the real deal.
Did somebody say to crash into kimi’s car???
If max would have been there, if he’s not there....all these are if’s n but’s
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