2018 Baku GP: Race

**Vettel165** · 1st May 2018, 14:50

With SS as Q3 tyres, I expect us to be very strong in Spain. Mercedes might have again problems with their tyres, as Barcelona is a track with very high tyre wear.

**Silent Bob** · 1st May 2018, 15:03

Originally Posted by Brembo

If what you just described gets Seb on the podium like Kimi, why not? Seb on pole doesn't seem to help, being up front , no help. He needs to go to RB and Max to Ferrari. Being a Kimi fan still qualifies as being a Ferrari fan !! Just like when Rubens was with Ferrari , a Rubens fan was still a Ferrari fan.

This place i great !!!

I was and am a big Kimi fan. Unfortunately I think he has become apathetic. Still has flashes of the old Kimi, but i don't see the same fire as he had, especially on his non-existent defence of position and half hearted overtaking attempts. Rubens was one of the best #2's the sport has seen. I agree being a KImi or Ruben's fan means you are still a Ferrari fan if they are driving for us.... but when the time has come to hang up the helmet, better not to extend your career much further because it probably won't get better.

**stefa** · 1st May 2018, 15:19

Originally Posted by paolo lalli

Alonso is a bitter sweet type of person his best days are behind him and as every race passes so does his career in his day he was brilliant.

You nailed a point there!

**jgonzalesm6** · 1st May 2018, 17:58

What a tool!!!!

Back at you Lewis Baku 2017.

Hamilton says Vettel broke safety car rules in Baku

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/h...u-1032302/?s=1

**Giallo 550** · 1st May 2018, 18:07

Originally Posted by chinmay

People also say that Alonso would be good in that Ferrari. That's the biggest joke of 21st century

, why wasn't Ferrari able to develop a race winning capable car when he was in Ferrari? Because he is not a team builder. Vettel came and transformed Ferrari into a race winning capable team. And Alonso can never match the pace shown by Vettel. Alonso is a slow qualifier, if he was in Vettel's place in Baku, it would be a Mercedes front row lockout on Saturday.

Forza Vettel!

Blaming Fernando Alonso for Ferrari's inability to develop the best package is the biggest joke of the century!

If anyone's a team builder, it's Sergio Marchionne! The only thing Vettel has on Alonso is his ability to positively interact with the people within the team. He's not the engineer!

**stefa** · 1st May 2018, 18:26

Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6

What a tool!!!!

Back at you Lewis Baku 2017.

Hamilton says Vettel broke safety car rules in Baku

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/h...u-1032302/?s=1

This.... I don' know what to say not to offend the rules of bad language... he is so.... Ahhhhh

**DIEK** · 1st May 2018, 20:20

**Brembo** · 1st May 2018, 22:09

Originally Posted by Silent Bob

I was and am a big Kimi fan. Unfortunately I think he has become apathetic. Still has flashes of the old Kimi, but i don't see the same fire as he had, especially on his non-existent defence of position and half hearted overtaking attempts. Rubens was one of the best #2's the sport has seen. I agree being a KImi or Ruben's fan means you are still a Ferrari fan if they are driving for us.... but when the time has come to hang up the helmet, better not to extend your career much further because it probably won't get better.

Everything you said makes sense, Kimi still manages the podium ,2nd place! Maybe his overtaking attempts are what's happening now a days . Dan vs. Max whole hearted and then some, show not so good results, except for fan excitement! He IMO has so much experience knowing that defending his position has a lot to do with patience [not sleeping! ]

gets him in the top 4 and a podium or two. Did you think Shumy should have hung up his helmet and not go to Merc at the time? I believe he needed that chance to beat Ayrton's pole record. And he did.
As long as there's no injuries, I watch the races as more exciting than ever! And forget Lewis, Seb, Dan, Max, Bottas," The quiet man is where it's at !! " Engine Hp is where it's at ! Brawn is a bum!

**jgonzalesm6** · 1st May 2018, 22:57

New RedBull Logo.....(notice the bulls)....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcBGNQsWkAAWu2G.jpg

Max testing new parts for the Spanish GP...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcJUEqSVwAAFUef.jpg

**racingbradley** · 2nd May 2018, 08:54

Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6

Max testing new parts for the Spanish GP...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcJUEqSVwAAFUef.jpg

very good apt as well

**Riccardog** · 2nd May 2018, 11:25

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/12...-braking-zones

so... the rule was brought in because crashstappen made DANGEROUS moves on... if I recall KIMI... and the very next race SEB was penalized under the banner of this rule... and now that MAX did it again...(sorry Britney fans..

) the rule has been scrapped...
Do I sense that the ones who got screwed by this have ONLY been FERRARI?????

FIA is REALLY testing my resolve of late... I am seriously contemplating getting rid of SKY and stop watching F1... this is really coming close to that happening.... so £$%@$ sad.....

**farid-baku** · 2nd May 2018, 11:43

В Ferrari надеялись, что этого не произойдет, но различные варианты стратегий – один из факторов, за счет которых можно что-то предпринять. На самом деле довольно сложно контролировать ход гонки, потому что с одной стороны вы пытаетесь избежать «подрезки», а с другой должны учитывать возможное появление автомобиля безопасности – невозможно сделать и то, и то. Именно в такие моменты и появляются возможности у тех, кто занимает второе место.

Если бы на трассе не появился автомобиль безопасности, мы бы провели пит-стоп примерно за десять кругов до финиша, поставив Валттери UltraSoft. Состав SuperSoft не сильно деградировал, так что мы могли столь долго оставаться на трассе, сколько хотели. За эти 10 кругов у нас было бы достаточно времени, чтобы догнать Себастьяна и побороться с ним за победу».

I read this article from f1news.ru Mercedes say that if there not SC they can change tires to ultrasoft and can catch the Ferrari because supersoft tires degratation is low they can stay at track hom many time they want.But i think if SC not came Seb will win very easyly because till 41 lap they cant come closer to us under +4 secods.

**mwk360** · 2nd May 2018, 12:26

Originally Posted by farid-baku

В Ferrari надеялись, что этого не произойдет, но различные варианты стратегий – один из факторов, за счет которых можно что-то предпринять. На самом деле довольно сложно контролировать ход гонки, потому что с одной стороны вы пытаетесь избежать «подрезки», а с другой должны учитывать возможное появление автомобиля безопасности – невозможно сделать и то, и то. Именно в такие моменты и появляются возможности у тех, кто занимает второе место.

Если бы на трассе не появился автомобиль безопасности, мы бы провели пит-стоп примерно за десять кругов до финиша, поставив Валттери UltraSoft. Состав SuperSoft не сильно деградировал, так что мы могли столь долго оставаться на трассе, сколько хотели. За эти 10 кругов у нас было бы достаточно времени, чтобы догнать Себастьяна и побороться с ним за победу».

I read this article from f1news.ru Mercedes say that if there not SC they can change tires to ultrasoft and can catch the Ferrari because supersoft tires degratation is low they can stay at track hom many time they want.But i think if SC not came Seb will win very easyly because till 41 lap they cant come closer to us under +4 secods.

Mercedes has way better tyre care then ferrari it seems, everytime it comes to end of a stint for ferrari seb is struggling and had to pit much much earlier as he was losing time, Mercs are able to go fastest lap range near there end of stints, everytime merc intend to pit their pace is supreme, bottas was 12secs ahead of seb with 13~15 laps to go and was setting fastest laps along with redbull, enough to put the US on and win. Mercs at spain will have such a giant power/aero boost i just know is coming, they ironed out there car their last year and become unbeatable compared to melbourne. i hope at the least ferrari can have an upgrade to help keep life in the tyres to allow better strategies, mercs better tyre life gives them options to box seb up if he ever gets ahead.

**Silent Bob** · 2nd May 2018, 13:59

Originally Posted by Brembo

Everything you said makes sense, Kimi still manages the podium ,2nd place! Maybe his overtaking attempts are what's happening now a days . Dan vs. Max whole hearted and then some, show not so good results, except for fan excitement! He IMO has so much experience knowing that defending his position has a lot to do with patience [not sleeping! ]

gets him in the top 4 and a podium or two. Did you think Shumy should have hung up his helmet and not go to Merc at the time? I believe he needed that chance to beat Ayrton's pole record. And he did.
As long as there's no injuries, I watch the races as more exciting than ever! And forget Lewis, Seb, Dan, Max, Bottas," The quiet man is where it's at !! " Engine Hp is where it's at ! Brawn is a bum!

Well there would be one hell of a show if everyone drove like Kimi did at Baku.

**Kingdom Hearts** · 2nd May 2018, 14:38

Originally Posted by chinmay

I see some people are saying Vettel should have waited to make a move, those people should know that Ferrari was running more downforce and as a result was slower on the straights than Mercedes, Red Bull and Force India. If Vettel didn't attempt a move, he would have been overtaken by Lewis anyway on the next lap. Another thing they say is that Vettel was ahead of Hamilton and should've stayed there. It's the 4th race of the season and Vettel shouldn't go for the win? That is known as a loser attitude. I'm very happy that Seb went for the win.

People also say that Alonso would be good in that Ferrari. That's the biggest joke of 21st century

, why wasn't Ferrari able to develop a race winning capable car when he was in Ferrari? Because he is not a team builder. Vettel came and transformed Ferrari into a race winning capable team. And Alonso can never match the pace shown by Vettel. Alonso is a slow qualifier, if he was in Vettel's place in Baku, it would be a Mercedes front row lockout on Saturday.

Forza Vettel!

Please tell us how Alonso messed up the Ferrari wind tunnel and race strategies too.

**Stormsearcher** · 2nd May 2018, 15:43

Was away for the weekend to a Vintage and modern classics car rally. Had recorded the race and avoided all forms of news and updates and even social networking websites so i could come back and watch the race the way i want to.
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Very entertaining race! God knows, F1 needs this.
By the end of last year, i was saying Max V is the next best thing in F1. Being disappointed every race by how reckless the kid is and how he is not learning from past mistakes. Though the Ricciardo crash cannot be apportioned entirely to him, he did drive rather callously and without respect. I do hope he starts to learn and realise his potential.
LH got mightly lucky with the win, but his subdued celebration clearly shows he recognises it and would rather win the race than be gifted it. Which is nice, considering what a brat he is said to be.
I feel for Bottas. He shud have won this. He never seems to have luck. A little bit like Massa. Will he be relegated as a forever no.2?
I didnt watch quali, so dont know why Kimi was not really in the fight. He lucked it too, but brownie points to him for patiently waiting and stringing along.
Seb has only himself to blame for the loss. But he is right, this year we have a car that can win a head to head battle with the merc. Nothing to moan about. Just yet.
Lets hope we dont fall back in the development war that will start now.
Looking forward to the spanish GP.

**Brembo** · 2nd May 2018, 22:12

Originally Posted by Silent Bob

Well there would be one hell of a show if everyone drove like Kimi did at Baku.

For sure! But there's only room for 3 on the podium.

Someone needs to tell that to Max & Dan! Red Bull would have saved a few bucks on repairs also.

**jgonzalesm6** · 5th May 2018, 09:18

Renault is expecting its Formula 1 engine to get a performance boost from next week's Spanish Grand Prix thanks to an upgrade from fuel supplier BP.

AND

According to #AMuS the MCL33 B-Spec car that we will see in Barcelona will have: new deflectors under Nose, new bargeboards, new engine cover, new floor, new rear wing.

**nani_s23** · 5th May 2018, 12:24

Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6

Renault is expecting its Formula 1 engine to get a performance boost from next week's Spanish Grand Prix thanks to an upgrade from fuel supplier BP.

AND

According to #AMuS the MCL33 B-Spec car that we will see in Barcelona will have: new deflectors under Nose, new bargeboards, new engine cover, new floor, new rear wing.

All major teams plan their upgrades for Spain. Which gives directives related to performance for the rest of the season.
Hope we too have some upgrades in pipeline.

**icedeepan** · 6th May 2018, 08:11

Originally Posted by mwk360

Mercedes has way better tyre care then ferrari it seems, everytime it comes to end of a stint for ferrari seb is struggling and had to pit much much earlier as he was losing time, Mercs are able to go fastest lap range near there end of stints, everytime merc intend to pit their pace is supreme, bottas was 12secs ahead of seb with 13~15 laps to go and was setting fastest laps along with redbull, enough to put the US on and win. Mercs at spain will have such a giant power/aero boost i just know is coming, they ironed out there car their last year and become unbeatable compared to melbourne. i hope at the least ferrari can have an upgrade to help keep life in the tyres to allow better strategies, mercs better tyre life gives them options to box seb up if he ever gets ahead.

lol. I'm all for constructive criticism but this is pure negativity. Mercedes do not have way 'better tyre care' in any way. The Ferrari can turn on its tyres in any conditions during quali as we've seen (cold, hot, windy) much better than the mercs and when we were on Pole at Bahrain, you said it was due to the high temps and when we did it again in China, you said it was because it was cold (and that the mercs were set up for hot temps in the race :)). Any chance we could provide some positive vibes for our engineers and drivers who've laid the base for a strong car?

Have you forgotten how Seb did the number of laps he did in Bahrain on that set of tyres to win the race? There was nothing in the race in China and Azerbaijan that suggests the Mercs have better tyre care. In China, we were evenly matched and got undercut due to a slow stop and a fast Bottas outlap on new tyres. In Azerbaijan, the Mercs had no answer to Seb during the first stint and only laps Bottas was quicker was when the soft tyres were getting up to temps compared to used US which had good life there (as demonstrated by the pace of the Red Bulls during the same period). You 'know' Mercs will have a giant power/aero boost while you expect our team to just have been sitting there not doing anything? C'mon man, we've taken 3 poles in 4 races and lost the last 2 largely due to SC inteference. We'll be there raring to go in Spain!

**Vettel165** · 6th May 2018, 08:19

I had again a dream this night that Seb won the next race with Hamilton having an DNF. I swear it.

**mwk360** · 6th May 2018, 15:15

Originally Posted by icedeepan

lol.

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our team to just have been sitting there not doing anything? C'mon man, we've taken 3 poles in 4 races and lost the last 2 largely due to SC inteference. We'll be there raring to go in Spain!

I wish i could be positive man just the last few results for poor seb has made me expect the worse now. pole is cursed if you ferrari or seb.

now that bottas has game changing pit strategies. its going to be even harder now. I still hope Seb wins in spain though, even if its just through luck again lol

**Schumiklub** · 6th May 2018, 15:33

I hope we can get a win in Spain and I can enjoy it on the new F1 TV Pro thing! [emoji16]

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**IulianFerrari** · 6th May 2018, 15:51

Originally Posted by Schumiklub

I hope we can get a win in Spain and I can enjoy it on the new F1 TV Pro thing! [emoji16]

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How much is it? And please let u know if its worth it

**Schumiklub** · 6th May 2018, 16:20

Originally Posted by IulianFerrari

How much is it? And please let u know if its worth it

7.99€ per month. We’ll see if it’s worth it next race.

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**Brembo** · 6th May 2018, 21:40

Originally Posted by mwk360

I wish i could be positive man just the last few results for poor seb has made me expect the worse now. pole is cursed if you ferrari or seb.

now that bottas has game changing pit strategies. its going to be even harder now. I still hope Seb wins in spain though, even if its just through luck again lol

Not a word here about Kimi taking pole and wnning? He is not in on the curse!

**Stormsearcher** · 8th May 2018, 07:13

Originally Posted by Brembo

Not a word here about Kimi taking pole and wnning? He is not in on the curse!

I am rooting for Kimi. Its most likely his last season. He deserves a couple of wins.

**Stormsearcher** · 8th May 2018, 07:31

Originally Posted by chinmay

People also say that Alonso would be good in that Ferrari. That's the biggest joke of 21st century

, why wasn't Ferrari able to develop a race winning capable car when he was in Ferrari? Because he is not a team builder. Vettel came and transformed Ferrari into a race winning capable team. And Alonso can never match the pace shown by Vettel. Alonso is a slow qualifier, if he was in Vettel's place in Baku, it would be a Mercedes front row lockout on Saturday.

Forza Vettel!

get off the weed dude!

**mwk360** · 8th May 2018, 11:07

Originally Posted by Schumiklub

I hope we can get a win in Spain and I can enjoy it on the new F1 TV Pro thing! [emoji16]

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interesting, i hope it gets cheaper lol and that there's an option that covers few races not just 1 for that cost