2012 Canadian Grand Prix - Race thread

[Julie B]

Here's to a fantastic race by our boys, let's see what we can do from these positions on the grid :ferrarifl

[Hornet]

I believe Alonso and Massa can do much better than in Monaco, as they are starting even higher up the grid this time. ;-)

Anyway, for the championship, I hope Alonso still finish ahead of our rivals at the end of the race. It will be hard, with Vettel looking strong and Louis in between. But who knows.:pray

[Cemz85]

Clearly the undercut wont work here, who ever stays out for those extra 2 laps will make up big ground.. cant wait for this Race

[Rishu]

This the first race of the season where I genuinely can hope for a Ferrari win. Alonso did it in Silverstone 2011 to mark tribute to Ferrari's first ever win 60 years back & I will be ecstatic if he does it again to pay tribute to a legend in Sir Gilles Villeneuve

[Suzie]

Going to be a long day of nerves waiting for this. All I ask for is a clean race and that we get around the first corner with our cars intact.
Just looked at the Sky coverage in the UK and it is from 5.30pm to 10.15pm - any rain delays and there could be a few sleepy people in work tomorrow :-D

[steelstallions]

One big problem, Italy play Spain at the same time as the race!!!!!!!!!! What will Italians do, what gets watched live, what gets recorded OR do you have two TV's or picture in picture to watch both? If Spain take the lead when Alonso comes in will the pit crew tell him to change his own tyres :lol

[Bonjers]

One big problem, Italy play Spain at the same time as the race!!!!!!!!!! What will Italians do, what gets watched live, what gets recorded OR do you have two TV's or picture in picture to watch both?

I'm having the same problem....

[Greig]

Football starts 2 hours before race, so will be finished before we get racing :-)

[steelstallions]

One big problem, Italy play Spain at the same time as the race!!!!!!!!!! What will Italians do, what gets watched live, what gets recorded OR do you have two TV's or picture in picture to watch both? If Spain take the lead when Alonso comes in will the pit crew tell him to change his own tyres :lol

I'm having the same problem....

Dare I say on a Ferrari forum the football will take priority, more emotion runs through a game of football than a F1 race, unless they play like they did against New Zealand which means I will not even watch the recorded game!!!! I am still angry about how lethargic the team was in that World Cup and the amount of young new players they left out the squad!!!!!

[laci63]

What football :)

[steelstallions]

Football starts 2 hours before race, so will be finished before we get racing :-)

Spain v Italy is at 17.00

Sky says the race is 17.30?

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/350494/20120610/f1-canadian-gp-watch-live-online-stream.htm

[Greig]

Race start is 7pm

[Jas]

back to f1 lol....how much of a disadvatage is it starting on the dirty side of the grid for massa...i dont think its too much here

[steelstallions]

Race start is 7pm

Cheers Greig, I checked again and its the programme starts at 17.30, and hour and half of build up to the race. Looks like today could be a great day or a really crap one depending on results :)

[Suzie]

What football :)

Indeed.

[Greig]

back to f1 lol....how much of a disadvatage is it starting on the dirty side of the grid for massa...i dont think its too much here

Should not be too bad, both sides of the straight seem to get used over the weekend

[Kingdom Hearts]

Both drivers in the podium, it's that possible?, I'm a little scared of the start but forza Ferrari and let's hope the finger boy is not miles away after the 1 lap, like he usually do. :ferrarifl

[Ferrarichamp]

Both drivers in the podium, it's that possible?, I'm a little scared of the start but forza Ferrari and let's hope the finger boy is not miles away after the 1 lap, like he usually do. :ferrarifl

I think we're looking at Alonso P2, Massa top 5.

[Hornet]

Kimi did manage to stay close to Vettel and mount a challenge at one point at that race where Vettel won. So I don't think Red Bull will just run off into the sunset.

Of course overtaking is another different matter. We saw how difficult it is in the Alonso vs Mal race.

[scuderiafan]

Critically, both Ferraris, the Mercedes and Red Bull cars all got through into Q3 using only one set of the super soft tyres. Button had used all three sets of his – he flat spotted one set and lost them – and was vulnerable to a last minute attack from Maldonado, but the Venezuelan hit the wall in the final corner and that allowed Button to go through in the top ten.

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2012/06/vettel-on-pole-for-canadian-grand-prix/#comments

On the football, thanks guys, I thought the Ireland Croatia game was on at 5.
I love football, but watching the F1. These 'big' matches rarely deliver, will be a borefest!
F1 for me.

[mark p]

Podium for Alonso is fine. The main thing is we are about level to the top teams on pace now with 13 races to go and with getting great points at the start this seems the best year since 2008 (hopefully a 2007 outcome)

[number 13]

Darren Heath ‏@F1Photographer

Get yer'self to a slowish corner @ ‪#f1montreal‬ Listen to the ‪#redbull‬ cars.If that ain't off-throttle blowing I'll eat my hat...

source https://twitter.com/F1Photographer/status/211483864613404672

WHAT THE HELL?

[mark p]

source https://twitter.com/F1Photographer/status/211483864613404672

WHAT THE HELL?

It has to be said although everyone said it was better to handle the holes in their floors/ wheel hubs without controversey it opens up the possibility of using illegal solutions having them removed then adding different illegal solutions the next race and on and on. They could win until the end of the year with the fia always one race behind them. Give them an inch they will take a mile. Should have something in place for repeat offences ie if parts are removed 3 times in a year you miss a race.

[Kyss4k]

I have a bad feeling about today... Hopefully it's only because the weather we are having over here.

Forza! :ferrarifl

[Alessandra]

What football :)


:clap

[Jas]

really worried about the start...especially for massa, fast starting cars around him! :s

[Corey]

Kimi did manage to stay close to Vettel and mount a challenge at one point at that race where Vettel won. So I don't think Red Bull will just run off into the sunset.

Of course overtaking is another different matter. We saw how difficult it is in the Alonso vs Mal race.

That's just because of Catalunya. Here in Montreal we've got that long back straight, carry the momentum well through the chicane you can probably have a shot at Turn 1 too. Catalunya with just that one straight, not a chance.

[Gerhard Berger]

really worried about the start...especially for massa, fast starting cars around him! :s

Massa is a fast starting car himself!

Just hope he doesn't get involved in an incident like he did in 2010.

[type056]

I am worried that Alonso can not overtake Ham at start and loose time behind him and then can not attach Vet for win.

[sav_pap]

I am worried that Alonso can not overtake Ham at start and loose time behind him and then can not attach Vet for win.

Fernando will overatke both in front of hin until lap 3. I could bet 10000 TSN cash.

[FerrariF60]

Fernando will overatke both in front of hin until lap 3. I could bet 10000 TSN cash.

i'm hoping that with teh amazing starts Fernando has had so far at every race will take both Luise and screaming school girl by TURN ONE, and lead the race from then onwards...

i know he can DO IT, i know HE CAN!!!!

[Corey]

Any chance of showers?

[Hornet]

Any chance of showers?
I don't think so.

So far the weather forecast has been accurate about a rainy Friday and sunny Saturday. Today is predicted to be sunny too.

[Gerhard Berger]

Hot weather will be bad for Mclaren.

[ferrari1.8t]

source https://twitter.com/F1Photographer/status/211483864613404672

WHAT THE HELL?

I found it very strange that Vettel could pull a lap-time out like that, so much quicker than Hamilton and Alonso. I wonder if anyone will complain or protest. Probably wait until Vettel wins, gets 1st in the drivers standing, then protest to change from next race on. :roll Heres hoping for a strong race from both our boys in red!

[ferrari1.8t]

Any off-throttle experts hear what these press guys are hearing?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0j92QOBCgU

[number 13]

Any off-throttle experts hear what these press guys are hearing?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0j92QOBCgU

I can't really hear it, i watched and listened the clip many times myself but im not an expert either...Maybe somebody can help us..If they found a way to use off-throttle blowing after all the changes made in the regulations i will lose all my faith in humanity :-(

[ferrari1.8t]

I can't really hear it, i watched and listened the clip many times myself but im not an expert either...Maybe somebody can help us..If they found a way to use off-throttle blowing after all the changes made in the regulations i will lose all my faith in humanity :-(


I can hear it, the engine sounds rough and deep on turns. If you listen when he lifts off the throttle, it gets deep.

[Hornet]

I didn't notice anything either. But for sure, if its there, its no where as aggressive as last season.

Last season it was very obvious with the Renault engines, you can hear this rough sound the engine make as the car goes around a corner.

BTW, they are allowed a maximum of 10% engine throttle this season as a way to limit off throttle blowing.

[mark p]

Does not sound like last years off throttle sound more like a heel and toe on down change. Cleaner sound like blipping the throttle on each down change. Can't see how you can do this with semi auto box. Ferrari road cars do this though so maybe they can use similar software. Its not retarding the ignition but similar effect engage the clutch blip the throttle and air will still pass through the exhaust. I would think all do this but rb more extreme? Would need to hear other cars as well though

[Alessandra]

All I can get is "This video is currently unavailable'. Why is that, please?

[number 13]

All I can get is "This video is currently unavailable'. Why is that, please?

It plays fine for me...Maybe try watching it with a diff internet browser? :-)

[Rishu]

No off-throtle mapping for sure...

[Rob]

Going to be a long day of nerves waiting for this. All I ask for is a clean race and that we get around the first corner with our cars intact.
Just looked at the Sky coverage in the UK and it is from 5.30pm to 10.15pm - any rain delays and there could be a few sleepy people in work tomorrow :-D

good job im on nights this week. :clap

[Liscia]

My being at the Montreal race last year didn't help so maybe
my NOT being there this year will bring the team MORE luck?
I DO have a VERY good feeling for today's race and as usual
and whatever the outcome: FORZA FERRARI!!!

[Liscia]

Doesn't sound like last year either imo. Worst offender last year was
Renault's harsh blatting croak-really unpleasant to hear. Ferrari and RB
didn't sound quite as loud or harsh.

[FER]

Massa is best starting driver this year so far, so worrying about him is not worthy. I hope for both Ferraris having a clean race.

[Curbs]

Bit OT. But does anybody know if Alonso is watching the soccergame. Spain-Italy. Match ends 15 min before race start.

[Alessandra]

It plays fine for me...Maybe try watching it with a diff internet browser? :-)

Hmm...will try. Thanks.

[Suzie]

He tweeted about an hour ago that he had to go to a strategy meeting (he'd been watching the Nadal match).
I'd assume that the whole team will be trying to sneak looks at the score of this 'football' thing or whatever it is.

[scuderiafan]

Yeah well, better not ruin preparations ;-)

[Alessandra]

Yeah well, better not ruin preparations ;-)

Ha! Think he's got problems:roll Some of us are trying to watch all three at the same time:munch

[theforce]

Q: (Andrea Cremonesi - La Gazzetta dello Sport) Fernando, I would just like to know if some jokes have already start between you and the mechanics in the team about tomorrow’s match?
FA: No, not yet but if Spain wins, I think there may not be many people at the pit stop!


:lol

[Corey]

Well if the people in the paddock are drawn away by Euro soccer, I hope the big tv screens at the grandstand won't start showing ice hockey in the middle of the race :lol

[Greig]

He tweeted about an hour ago that he had to go to a strategy meeting (he'd been watching the Nadal match).
I'd assume that the whole team will be trying to sneak looks at the score of this 'football' thing or whatever it is.

I seen pics taken by you at this football thing in Monaco :-D

[Suzie]

I seen pics taken by you at this football thing in Monaco :-D

Yeah... as if I went for the football :-D

[Katu]

i think i have to ask this annoying question - anyone has links?

[Hornet]

Wait, this seems to be working
http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/48952/5/f1---canadian-grand-prix-race-live-stream-online.html

[Katu]

muchas gracias

[theforce]

Is high track temp bad for us as well as Mclaren?

[wacc]

Martin during his grid walk interviewed Newey who sad he was taking a look at new bits on Ferrari.

[stefa]

Hello to everyone! Hoping for good race for Ferrari. We could win today...

[wacc]

Good luck F+F+F!

:ferrarifl

[FerrariF60]

Here's a GOOD LUCK to both of our drivers and REALLY hoping for a WIN!!!

[Hornet]

Good luck to both our drivers and Ferrari.

:ferrarifl

[SanderV]

Evening guys.

Looking forward to this race and a good team result.

:ferrarifl

[MRRabbit]

Guess Alonso won't have any problem with his pitstops considering the footie result :-)

[AvantiAlonsoWDC]

What are you looking at Mr Newey?.
He seemed very interested in our exhaust solution .... (A member of the Ferrari team laughed and moved a bit as if he was trying to stop him from looking) :lol

[sav_pap]

Nice sunny day in Montreal. Hope temperatures to suit our car.

[vagos]

FORZA FERRARIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

[Kyss4k]

God, that tension again... Forza Ferrari!!!

[sav_pap]

Forza 3F. Today we will increase our championship leading...

[M.K]

Here we go! :ferrarifl

[sav_pap]

No surprises please...:pray
Canada is almost always full of troubles.

[sav_pap]

I bet that Nando will be leading ubtil 3rd lap.

[fronaldo]

45 degrees track temp..high

[ferrari4life]

is vetels car ahead of the line

[vagos]

clean start!

[vagos]

vettel is flying.............. massa fights with rosberg

[vagos]

come on fernadoooooooooooo push

[sav_pap]

Nando is ready

[Corey]

C'mon Massa get rid of thsi Mercedes

[vagos]

massa passed rosberg!!! well done

[ferrari4life]

yay massa

[fronaldo]

massa pure speed

[vagos]

vettel FL

[Matt Pratola]

Felipe looking great!

[Kyss4k]

Felipe!

[Bonjers]

Well done Felipe.

[vagos]

good start from Felipe stable pace by fernando

[sav_pap]

Ham is too slow he gives advantage to Vet.

[m schumy]

Great work by Felipe :-)

[bladeswing]

hi everyone...
any links working?

[vagos]

button crapy start

[F1ferrarifanUSA]

links plsssssssss

[vagos]

fernando has to pass hamster

[vagos]

vettel again FL!!!!

[scuderiafan]

Vettel off into the distance :doh

Hamilton train.

[M.K]

Fernando is managing tires again?

[Kyss4k]

Felipe No...

[vagos]

damnnnnnnnnnn massa spinned!!!!!!!!!!!!!:-(

[sav_pap]

Massa lost the rear

[Katu]

oh massa...

[fronaldo]

no massa

[scuderiafan]

Massa :furious

[SanderV]

What a shame.

[wacc]

:-(

[sav_pap]

Damn tyres we are not going to watch a pure race again,.

[Nisko]

any links please

[sav_pap]

Massa risks too much, destroyed tyres

[FerrariFanBoii]

I still got a good feeling about this race! For Alonso anyway!

[DJTaurus]

I am sure that ALO is looking after his tyres...

[Corey]

Alonso's probably doing the Monaco

[ferrari4life]

shame massa.. dissapointing

[M.K]

Why they think DRS was enabled by lap 2? did Felipe's wing was open or usual Sky bull****?

[KurtC]

seems like vettel will have a pace of his own, Alonso need to jump Hamilton

[sav_pap]

we are not catching ham. he opens the difference

[sav_pap]

Hope tyre managing happening now

[sav_pap]

Anyway pretty good pace we have in a track that don't suit our car.

[M.K]

any links please

http://www8.livetv.ru/webplayer2.php?t=letontv&c=f1canada&lang=ru&eid=120745&lid=61491&ci=44&si=7

[FerrariFanBoii]

I believe we have the pace! ALO needs to overtake Hamilton though! Just tyre saving, like in Monaco

[sav_pap]

Many pitstops today will happen

[ferrari4life]

really mad about massa. what a shame..

[Kyss4k]

Massa pits

[scuderiafan]

I hope Massa can get this back. In the pits.


really mad about massa. what a shame..

Me too.

[sav_pap]

At least 3 pitstops per driver will happen

[sav_pap]

dance of pitstops begins

[sav_pap]

ham attacks to vet

[fronaldo]

hammy flying now..

[m schumy]

Rosberg FL

[sav_pap]

vet pits

[FerrariFanBoii]

Hamilton to go a bit angry an crash into Vettel?

[sav_pap]

slow pitstop for vet

[Bonjers]

Now.were flying!

More dross from Jenson Front Grip Button.

[SanderV]

Go Fernando

[FerrariFanBoii]

Glad to see Hamilton ahead of Vettel tbh

[scuderiafan]

Hamilton ahead!!!!

[Matt Pratola]

Alonso is going to take it :clap

[FerrariFanBoii]

Why on earth don't we pit Nando when we should! ARGH!

[AvantiAlonsoWDC]

Fight between Vettel and Hamilton, looks good for Fernando! :ferrarifl

[Katu]

vettel and hamilton will have their hands full while fernando makes bigger gap

[FerrariF60]

Why on earth don't we pit Nando when we should! ARGH!

why pit yet, he's still going PURPLE

[Kyss4k]

Oh my god! So tense\§

[Corey]

Alonso in

[m schumy]

Alonso pits

[Kyss4k]

Hell yes!!!!!!!!

[KurtC]

ALO P1!!!!!!!

[scuderiafan]

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!

[fronaldo]

yes ..

[M.K]

This is how WE DO!

[AvantiAlonsoWDC]

Two positions won with great laps and a fantastic pitstop!!!
Forza Ferrari :ferrarifl

[FerrariFanBoii]

WOOOOOO! come on Alonso.

[DJTaurus]

The big straight is crucial now

[Katu]

that payed off well

[Bonjers]

Booooooooom!

[KurtC]

DAMMIT DRS

[fronaldo]

damn..

[scuderiafan]

Damn DRS

[JONNY F.2008]

Beauty from the team

[Katu]

damn you drs

[FerrariFanBoii]

Ah.... /: I knew Hamilton would get us

[SanderV]

Very good inlaps and a slow stop from Hamilton and still Alonso comes out just ahead?

[gpmaster]

Not really a great pitstop of FA? Looks a bit slow :/

[FerrariFanBoii]

Vettel can't overtake, it's alright guys! xD

[DJTaurus]

Its ok guys. Our tyres were not in the ideal temperature.... we will be back in another part of the race. We are 2 laps ahead in tyre degradation.

[Bonjers]

Nevermind. Plenty of time left yet.

[scuderiafan]

The pitstop was okay, I think.

[theforce]

Hopefully Alonso playing the waiting game

[Kyss4k]

Lewis if flying :((

[ferrari4life]

hamilton is really fast

[theforce]

Its ok guys. Our tyres were not in the ideal temperature.... we will be back in another part of the race. We are 2 laps ahead in tyre degradation.

Yeah but since Alonso is in Lewis's dirty air, his tyres will be gone sooner

[sav_pap]

we must overtake the b..... immediately...

[FerrariF60]

alonso is just managing tires at the moment

[scuderiafan]

I hope Alonso is saving tyres...

[Kyss4k]

No good. Vettel is way too close.

[fronaldo]

lose time in sector 2

[Chicane]

we have the tire advantage

[sav_pap]

With p2 we keep the championship lead

[FerrariFanBoii]

I believe that Alonso is saving his tyres. Well I hope!

[sav_pap]

we must keep vet behind us

[gpmaster]

Problems with heating up the tyres it looks like.

[anotherfinemess]

we must overtake the bi*** immediately...

Language children!

[sav_pap]

I'm watching commercials for about 5 mimnutes now. i'll smash the tv

[sav_pap]

Language children!

sorry

[ferrari4life]

doubt we have the pace to beat mclaren.. we need a lucky break

[FerrariFanBoii]

Hamilton doesn't have good pit stops remember guys.

[fronaldo]

massa trail grosjean

[Katu]

doubt we have the pace to beat mclaren.. we need a lucky break

we need another usual macca pitstop. left rear is the password

[scuderiafan]

McLaren 2 stopping???

[sav_pap]

lewis will not finish the race.remember this

[ferrari4life]

vettel's race is screwed.. his tires will wear faster and they are already older

[FerrariF60]

lewis will not finish the race.remember this

lol...i hope his car will blow up

[M.K]

McLaren 2 stopping???

I though everyone is doing that, think we will manage with one?

[JONNY F.2008]

This is fuel conserving time for the top guys.

[DJTaurus]

Who cares about hamster.... we need to finish in front of fingerboy.

[M.K]

Plan A? 1 stop?

[sav_pap]

Plan A? 1 stop?

no way...

[zike]

1 pitstop for Alonso? what do you think

[FerrariF60]

no way...

there's NO way Hami can do a ONE stopper...

[ferrari4life]

hope we are really not that much slower than hamilton..

[Bonjers]

Jenson is shocking.

[sav_pap]

button is tourist today

[FerrariF60]

Jenson is shocking.

he's doing the most stops out of everyone; and i bet he's gonna have to STOP again.

[DJTaurus]

Jenson is shocking.

Setup problems mostly. I think they are testing tyres behaviour as they are not gonna have a top 10 result.

[Naeem]

The RBRs acting clever geared their cars short. They thought they'd be out front in clean air, helmut marko Even said so. Its beautiful how they can't overtake. I love it.

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[ferrari4life]

we would have to use the tires for 50 laps if we are doing a 1 stopper. I doubt it.

[Katu]

if perez can't make them last more than 40 something laps, hamilton no way can do that

[FerrariFanBoii]

Sky commenters annoy me, they just bum Macca's!

I still have a feeling we will win this race!

[anotherfinemess]

Massa need to get his pace up a bit

[ferrari4life]

webber cannot pass perez on much older tires

[sav_pap]

alo cuts some tenths

[anotherfinemess]

Rosberg was flying! why the hell did he pit???

[theforce]

Alonso catching up:-D

[FerrariFanBoii]

Ahahaha not your day Red Bull!

[SanderV]

Button's pace is shocking.

[M.K]

Vettel dropped back a little, Fernando keeps it 3.5-4 sec to Lewis

[sav_pap]

webber won monaco with an ilegal car and he came to canada as a conqueror.
Now it's time for truth...

[Kyss4k]

Alonso catching up:-D

Hamilton has it covered.

[DJTaurus]

Raikonen -> 1.18.6

Vettel -> 1.18.3

So those tyres could last a lot..... dont know why the choose to pit!

[sav_pap]

another screwed race for schumi

[DJTaurus]

Perez just pitted.... 42 laps in total.

[Hermann]

another screwed race for schumi

And who the heck cares

[fronaldo]

alonso s3 purple..

[DJTaurus]

Hamster is going for 1 pit stop.... mind games or lmao :rotfl

[DJTaurus]

Alonso gained 8 tenths...

[theforce]

Hamilton has it covered.

Not to worry, Alonso playing smart for now

[sav_pap]

And who the heck cares

not me just mentioned..

[Kyss4k]

Alonso gained 8 tenths...

DRS against backmarkers.

[DJTaurus]

Poor Schumi.... he never get used of these tyres... :-(

[m schumy]

DRS issues for MS

[Kyss4k]

Is Mercedes doing this on purpose? Incredible...

[M.K]

There is a difference between being unlucky and being Schumacher :-D

[sav_pap]

we need a good - good pitstop

[Hermann]

Don't let the door hit you on your way out of the garage schumi

Vamos Fernando!!!

[DJTaurus]

I think ALO will try to decrease the gap in order to attack in the last part of the Race.

[Katu]

There is a difference between being unlucky and being Schumacher :-D

well once you gotta pay for being that lucky he was before...

[sav_pap]

I hope to be competitive at the end of the race with light fuel

[AvantiAlonsoWDC]

There is a difference between being unlucky and being Schumacher :-D
Are you sure? I think they're synonyms, specially given what has happened this season this far.

[sav_pap]

if the b....... win he will be the 7th different winner

[sav_pap]

21 laps yet...:pray

[DJTaurus]

Thumbs up for Massa. Today he was a fighter despite his mistake.

[sav_pap]

Gilles will destroy hamster's car

[FerrariF60]

Thumbs up for Massa. Today he was a fighter despite his mistake.

yes, true indeed

[SanderV]

Go Fernando

[SanderV]

Hahahah right rear

[sav_pap]

blue flag to button because of hamster...:-E
who could believe this???

[KurtC]

cmon cmon now!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kyss4k]

Will we go to he end now? Lewis clearly not!

[sav_pap]

awful pitstop for hamster yupi!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Katu]

right rear this time then:-D