2012 British GP - Race Thread

[Dino]

I still think the RB is the car to beat, but I wouldve really liked to see both Alonso and Webber at the end on equal tires...
That wouldve given me a better idea on how much we actually are behind RB in terms of development.
My drift there is the Ferrari just didnt appear to like the softs. Too bad they dont last longer than 11 laps.

Same Hard tyres for both on the second stint.
LAP.........ALONSO...............WEBER
17..........1:37.689..............1:38.180
18..........1:38.467..............1:38.314
19..........1:39.065..............1:38.416
20..........1:38.149..............1:38.504
21..........1:38.103..............1:38.169
22..........1:38.092..............1:37.979
23..........1:37.700..............1:37.540
24..........1:37.732..............1:37.665
25..........1:37.042..............1:37.684
26..........1:37.342..............1:37.505
27..........1:37.719..............1:38.175
28..........1:37.551..............1:37.313
29..........1:37.319..............1:37.072
30..........1:37.364..............1:36.971
31..........1:36.842..............1:37.089
32..........1:36.885..............1:36.938
How's that for balance between us and r/bull?

[Aruba]

Good result overall, very funny to see all the mclaren fans switch to red bull mid race, saddos

I did notice that as well when Webber was closing in on Alonso...

[458 Italia]

http://zipmeme.com/uploads/generated/g1340560250350902178.jpg

[Giallo 550]

Great South Park reference!

[Nova]

Thanks Dino..Pretty darn close...If we were on the hards at the end, Webber wouldve not passed us!

I just loved Felipes pass on SHuey.
Im really happy Felipe is on the ups.

[Jas]

Anybody know how massas lap time compared with Alonsos lap, massa had the 5th quickest time of the GP overall made on the 50th lap, very encouraging!

[Grillo]

Anybody know how massas lap time compared with Alonsos lap, massa had the 5th quickest time of the GP overall made on the 50th lap, very encouraging!

http://184.106.145.74/fia-f1/f1-2012/gbr-f1-2012-docs.htm#

[Infi24r]

You should be careful around here supporting Webber and Reb Bull, mate.

I declared my support for Schumi yesterday and was almost disowned by the gang (TSN).:wave
Forza Ferrari
:ferrarifl

I support

Webber
Ricciardo
Anyone but Vettel
Schumacher
Alonso
Hamilton

******* Watch the language please

red bull

Id be the happiest man on earth if Webber moved to another top team so I didn't have to support RBR and could take joy in their misery. Its semi comforting to know that Webber winning pisses Horner off.

Ive also found myself taking great joy in Massa going well, no idea why, I just like the underdog. I always preferred him over Kimi too.

[Giallo 550]

I support

Webber
Ricciardo
Anyone but Vettel
Schumacher
Alonso
Hamilton



red bull

Id be the happiest man on earth if Webber moved to another top team so I didn't have to support RBR and could take joy in their misery. Its semi comforting to know that Webber winning pisses Horner off.

Ive also found myself taking great joy in Massa going well, no idea why, I just like the underdog. I always preferred him over Kimi too.

Purely out of curiosity and no offense or anything, but if you're a Webber fan, which is understandable because you're Australian, why hang out at The Scuderia instead of a Mark Webber forum ?

[Infi24r]

Purely out of curiosity and no offense or anything, but if you're a Webber fan, which is understandable because you're Australian, why hang out at The Scuderia instead of a Mark Webber forum ?

Interesting perspective.

That and I think there is a fair chance Webber could end up at Ferrari, which would be great. Although probably less chance now he is beating Vettel at Red Bull and the team seem to be actually supporting him.

I do like Alonso and Massa too, Fernando is a boss and Massa deserves something for the 2008 season in which complete ups through no fault of his own cost him the title.

[Corey]

http://zipmeme.com/uploads/generated/g1340560250350902178.jpg

:rotfl

[sav_pap]

the team seem to be actually supporting him..

:eek::confused:
Sorry but i couldn't resist...

[mostar red army]

Great race for red cars, both of them, Alonso and Mark showed how much respect they have, unlike Pastor....I think we will have some trouble in Germany (my money is on Kimi, it is about time for win again), but Hungaroring should suit us, like Monaco....

regards

[Stormsearcher]

Great Race for the team, maybe not so much for Nando! He should have won, but once again the tyre ghost comes back to haunt us.

But all in all, a good points haul, Felipe is looking good and we dont seem to have lost ground to the bulls in terms of pace. Good season in the offing. :-)

[Rob]

Ferrari hail performance step
Team boss upbeat despite Alonso's late surrender
By Mike Wise at Silverstone. Last Updated: July 8, 2012 9:28pm

Ferrari Team Principal Stefano Domenicali was upbeat despite Fernando Alonso's late surrender at the British Grand Prix as he thinks they have made a definite step forward.

Having led for the vast majority of the race from pole position, Alonso was passed by Red Bull's Mark Webber just five laps from the end of the race at Silverstone.

The Spaniard retains the lead of the Drivers' Championship in spite of his disappointment but with team-mate Felipe Massa finishing fourth - his best result since 2010 - Domenicali himself was far from unhappy.

McLaren struggled in what, surprisingly, turned out to be a dry race, with Ferrari jumping to second place in the Constructors' Championship behind Red Bull.

Lotus remain third overall but McLaren have dropped to fourth after Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button finished eighth and 10th respectively.

After their difficult start to the season, the result was the Scuderia's best so far. Domenicali acknowledged as much, yet he remains wary of the competition.

"It's very tough but it's great to see Fernando still in the Championship battle. From the sporting point of view, it's good to see Lewis losing some points, (third-placed) Sebastian (Vettel) too.

"But it is also good to see Felipe having a good performance today because we have jumped the classification on the constructors' side and that is very good.

"If you look at the situation of the day with the first four cars, we have done a step for sure in the right direction from the performance point of view.

"But it is a very open Championship. I don't believe honestly that the others will stay behind. McLaren will come back, the others were very close today - I was impressed by the pace of Lotus, it was very, very quick.

"The competition is very high but the more we go ahead in the Championship, the more drivers are falling behind.

"If you are able to keep that pace in terms of scoring points in each grand prix, it's all open at the end."

Alonso appeared in control for most of the race but was hauled in and passed by Webber after changing to soft compound tyres at his final pit stop.

The double World Champion was alone among the top seven qualifiers in starting on hard tyres but struggled with understeer after the mandatory switch to the option rubber.

Domenicali defended the decision to start Alonso on the prime, even though the trouble he had at the end of the race confirmed a problem they had first encountered in practice on Saturday morning.

That was the only chance teams had to evaluate slick tyres after the first two sessions on Friday were washed out.

"The thinking was because we had Saturday morning, when we found with Fernando some problems with the soft tyres with much lower fuel," Domenicali explained.

"We wanted to make sure that the first stint was not too short, that was the thinking behind that choice. And I think it was correct because it was really a great pace with the hard."

The Ferrari boss revealed that they had considered keeping Alonso out as long as possible on the hard tyres but had to change to softs to try and cover the Red Bull drivers.

Despite both now being on the hard tyre themselves, both Webber and Vettel were starting to make up ground - with the Australian in a position to do something about it.

"We discussed it but we wanted to 'mark Mark'," Domenicali added. "Because in this situation you never know what is going to happen.

"Then, because we had calculated the length of the stint, it would have been okay because considering what Felipe had in the first stint, we were assuming that length was all right.

"We wanted to first of all mark Vettel, that was our primary objective. Then also there was Mark - we had trouble with Mark."

http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/news/12474/7883347/Ferrari-hail-performance-step

[F2002]

"We wanted to first of all mark Vettel, that was our primary objective. Then also there was Mark - we had trouble with Mark."


Great.

We can't continue 'marking Mark' like we did on that afternoon in Abu Dhabi...................

[rico]

After all there were two bad calls. We could lengthen either the first or the second stint by some laps. All in all it was a good result. Very happy for Felipe. Hope to see him in the podium in the next race

[red power]

Shame wrong tyre call, Great race anyway. Go Nando.

[giodap]

felipe to win hockenheim!! like he did last time ;-)

[Stormsearcher]

After all there were two bad calls. We could lengthen either the first or the second stint by some laps. All in all it was a good result. Very happy for Felipe. Hope to see him in the podium in the next race

I dont know why anyone is saying the tyre call was bad. If you listen to what Nando said about it, makes perfect sense. They were anticipating rain towards the end of the race and never wanted to use the softs. And as we all know, we cannot influence the weather gods (above our pay grade) ... we got caught out on a strategy that was a calculated risk. Happens!!

[Infi24r]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/288231_329135763838961_797212378_o.jpg

[Jose-Lorca Fan]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/288231_329135763838961_797212378_o.jpg

http://news.dipag.com/pictures/lowres/20081030/Mark-Webber-and-Martin-Whitmarsh-0000026232.jpg

[racingbradley]

I have just watched the race again. Oh I do hate DRS. :roll
Nando has enough race craft and cunning to have kept Mark behind him.
DRS just makes it too easy. Anyone can overtake within the 1 sec gap.
It robs us of a battle between two top drivers racing wheel to wheel over several laps.
No nail biters anymore---it's just a foregone conclusion once DRS is in operation.
Reminiscences of Sienna v Pros
Even Ralf v Michael............................. :-(
I have had my rant. :-)

[Nick Singer]

Great day - and great weather after a cool start!

Good result for us and delighted that Massa seems to have got off his backside - or is it 'got the monkey of his back'?!

Roll on Hockenheim..

[Greig]

The only people going home unhappy yesterday was the McLaren mob so all in all a good result on reflection lol

[Hornet]

"We wanted to first of all mark Vettel, that was our primary objective. Then also there was Mark - we had trouble with Mark."

We need to mark Mark more seriously next time in the next race. :-G

But in all seriousness, I think RB will still continue to develop the car to make sure they maximize Vettel's ability. It has been said that Vettel performs well the car behave like it does with the blown diffuser. We can see RB continue to push the blown diffuser concept and they will never rest easy until they get their blown diffuser right.

[Red passion]

I have just watched the race again. Oh I do hate DRS. :roll
Nando has enough race craft and cunning to have kept Mark behind him.
DRS just makes it too easy. Anyone can overtake within the 1 sec gap.
It robs us of a battle between two top drivers racing wheel to wheel over several laps.
No nail biters anymore---it's just a foregone conclusion once DRS is in operation.
Reminiscences of Sienna v Pros
Even Ralf v Michael............................. :-(
I have had my rant. :-)

Fans and drivers complained about the lack of overtaking before that is why pirelli fall apart tyres, DRS, KERS were introduced.
it does take from the epic passes of long ago which were pure bravery not a gadget in the car

[Hornet]

Fans and drivers complained about the lack of overtaking before that is why pirelli fall apart tyres, DRS, KERS were introduced.
it does take from the epic passes of long ago which were pure bravery not a gadget in the car

Well, you're right, the DRS was a response to driver's complain which specifically was about the lack of front end grip when following another car, the height of this issue was the last race in 2010, which we all remember Alonso getting stuck behind Petrov. The problem here is the twisty part before the straight causes the driver behind to fall back due to lack of front grip. So Alonso cannot stay close enough to overtake on the straight.

I'm not sure if it was the solution the driver wants. Maybe they like it, or not, I don't know. But my opinion is that its still not perfect. It indirectly compensates the time lost due to that front grip problem. But IMO, we need to directly address that front grip problem. We need to give the drives back the front grip so they can fight their race on their own without any DRS gimmick.

One such proposal that was shot down was to introduce shaped bottom (or shaped floor) and minimize the wing, which will transfer back the downforce to the floor rather than the front wing. Too bad we're moving in the opposite direction.

[Infi24r]

http://news.dipag.com/pictures/lowres/20081030/Mark-Webber-and-Martin-Whitmarsh-0000026232.jpg

Thats a few years old yeah?

McLaren definetly wanted him for 2010, but they got Button instead.

Not that I think Button is on Webbers level.

The only drivers I really rate ahead of Webber from the current crowd are Alonso, Hamilton and Vettel.

[Red passion]

Webber is good enough to win the title, i will pay more attention to him at the next few races to where he qualifies and his performance in this races.

Webber did very well in 2010.

I would prefer to be against him than SV or LH though.

[sav_pap]

We are the best !!!!
FORZA FERRARI!!!!!!
I would prefer P1 but also P2 is a great result (for the WDC).
We must not forget that also P3 was possible (Vettel was reducing the gap).

So we lead 13 to Webber, 29 to Vettel, 37 to Hamilton, Button is not a worry! :-)

General Conclusion : TIME for CELEBRATIONS!!!!

:wave

[Red passion]

So we lead 13 to Webber, 29 to Vettel, 37 to Hamilton, Button is not a worry! :-) :wave

:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

[Hermann]

It probably contains subliminal messages to spread their evil throughout the world. Do not watch.

:rotfl

[Red passion]

It probably contains subliminal messages to spread their evil throughout the world. Do not watch.

I would love to see the episode where they explain to kids that stealing Ferrari documents to cheat in racing is a good thing.

[Dino]

I would love to see the episode where they explain to kids that stealing Ferrari documents to cheat in racing is a good thing.

:lol:lol:rotfl:lol

[Nova]

Hey infi24r, Massa will be staying at Ferrari, no offense to Mark, I like him.
Great racer. So just hang out n root for Ferrari.

[Infi24r]

Hey infi24r, Massa will be staying at Ferrari, no offense to Mark, I like him.
Great racer. So just hang out n root for Ferrari.
I agree with you actually.

I don't see Mark leaving RBR when he's beating Vettel, to be beaten by Alonso.

Massa has looked pretty tidy lately too, it wouldn't surprise me if he gets a good result in one of the next few races. He has had alot of bad luck and unnecessarily collisions, but if not for getting stuck behind Schumacher I think he had better pace than Alonso at Silverstone, equal to at very worst.

[DIEK]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=slBVp_rko5E

[Jose-Lorca Fan]

Thats a few years old yeah?

McLaren definetly wanted him for 2010, but they got Button instead.

Not that I think Button is on Webbers level.

The only drivers I really rate ahead of Webber from the current crowd are Alonso, Hamilton and Vettel.

Yep, but my point is that personnel from different teams talk all the time and one picture doesn't prove anything. I'd love to see Mark at Ferrari though.

[Greig]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPN2NJ-geBg

[Bonjers]

That Alonso Hamilton video is brilliant. The cheers last about a second before he's back past him again and they all go quiet. Just like last year.

[Suzie]

That Alonso Hamilton video is brilliant. The cheers last about a second before he's back past him again and they all go quiet. Just like last year.

Yep! But I'm sure the Macca fans all enjoyed such a staggering display of mediocrity from their team this weekend :-D

[Bonjers]

Yep! But I'm sure the Macca fans all enjoyed such a staggering display of mediocrity from their team this weekend :-D

Just like last year....hahahahaha

[Tifosi]

I would love to see the episode where they explain to kids that stealing Ferrari documents to cheat in racing is a good thing.

Personally I thought it was BANG on the money. JB all smiley and chilled and Lewis moaning about his car, sulking, breaking the rules and ruining other people's races. Totally BANG on the money :-D

[sorcereur]

Might have been said already, and if so i'm sorry for repeating. But, this race wasn't lost by poor race strategy at all. It was lost purely due to the unnecessary fight with Hamilton; Well, somewhat unnecessary. Alonso had to get past Hamilton because he was losing quite a lot of time behind him. But that battle forced him to use up more of his tires, and most importantly speed.. This effectively cost him time, which would've been beneficial to extend his gap to Weber ever so slightly. Additionally, it would've allowed him to probably extend that stint by another lap or 2. Which would've been enough to win the race, albeit a close win.
With that said, Ferrari in my opinion made the absolute right call by anticipating for rain, and also by looking Massa's pace on the softs on heavy fuel.
Either way, i'm very encouraged by this because I don't believe Mark will be that consistent throughout the season. He and Vettel will take points off each other in the long run, so it will benefit Fernando/Ferrari. Massa's current trend will hopefully continue and allow him to take points off the rest, and help cover Fernando.

[Paulo Goncalves]

Finished now see the race and defenitly was tyres strategy, even Nando make good effort with soft, so to coroborate that we must see the Felipe´s strategy S-H-H, probably we had win with 8 or 9 sec ahead. One thing, we have good cars now.

[watto2]

McLaren animated cartoon Faaaaantaaaaastiiiiic (sorry Murray!) really loved the facsimile of Boy Blunder (Lewis), got him to a tee. More of the same PLEASE?

[Jose Lorca]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld8-VW-0D2M

[Nova]

Im watching this on Speed right now..I may turn it off for the last 5 laps :-D

[RockyRaccoon]

Yep! But I'm sure the Macca fans all enjoyed such a staggering display of mediocrity from their team this weekend :-D

Was funny watching them all become Webber fans about 7 laps from the end!!!

[Greig]

Instead of McLaren hats they should just wear "Anyone but Ferrari" hats.

[Red passion]

red bull are reigned world champions not us if anything the Mclaren fans should be for us, to prize the title off vettel

[Tifoso]

red bull are reigned world champions not us if anything the Mclaren fans should be for us, to prize the title off vettel


Doubtful. In the long run, there will still be Ferrari. Wouldn't surprise me at all if Red Bull is gone in 10 years (or less).

[Red passion]

Wouldn't surprise me at all if Red Bull is gone in 10 years (or less).

True, good riddance to them.

[Hornet]

Instead of McLaren hats they should just wear "Anyone but Ferrari" hats.

LOL, true. Saw them cheering when Lewis pass Alonso, and also cheer when Webber wins. They are just cheering as long as Ferrari got beaten regardless of how crappy McLaren did :ouch

[Giallo 550]

LOL, true. Saw them cheering when Lewis pass Alonso, and also cheer when Webber wins. They are just cheering as long as Ferrari got beaten regardless of how crappy McLaren did :ouch

I was laughing my ass off when Hamilton was dueling it out with Alonso. It was such a futile and irrelevant effort since he was about to fall back about 7 places when he pitted.

[MJ]

I was laughing my ass off when Hamilton was dueling it out with Alonso. It was such a futile and irrelevant effort since he was about to fall back about 7 places when he pitted.

what intrigues me is why does hamilton keeps on fighting when he know he'll lose that fight regardless? he's not even fighting for position since he's still going to pit. it's a futile effort and a waste of his energy. unless he just really wants to screw fernando..

look what happened with that fight with maldonado in valencia.. it's maybe maldo's fault for being so impatient, but hams tires are falling off so why not give in and at least save some position..

i know he's a racer and all but it is wise to give it up sometimes when there's not much to gain really..

[sav_pap]

what intrigues me is why does hamilton keeps on fighting when he know he'll lose that fight regardless? ..

Should Nando quit from battling with Webber for 1st ??
It was obvious that Webber was going to pass.
I don't want to defend Rmilton's attitude but their are all racers, they can't just give up...:wave

[MJ]

yep.. as i've said i know they are racers, and it's in their nature.. but the situation where hamilton was in (still needs to pit vs. alonso; shot tires vs. maldonado) was different to the battle of position between alonso and webber..

when webber passed alonso, i would say it wasn't easy but for sure alonso knew that fighting for it may be hopeless since he's at the mercy of his tires.. better some points than none at all..

[scuderiafan]

LOL, true. Saw them cheering when Lewis pass Alonso, and also cheer when Webber wins. They are just cheering as long as Ferrari got beaten regardless of how crappy McLaren did :ouch

Small team mentality :lou

[Red passion]

McLaren should save their cheers for when they do a pit stop correctly

[DIEK]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZsBS5Eqz4CY

[Dino]

F1 Pulse
Alonso’s British GP loss not down to strategy© Ubaid Parkar, 10 July 2012
© Ferrari

Fernando Alonso would have been a sitting duck against the Red Bull no matter what strategy he would have opted for at the British Grand Prix on Sunday.
The Ferrari driver, who started from pole position, lost the lead of the race at Silverstone four laps from the end to Mark Webber, who went on to win the race from the Spaniard.
The double world champion had opted to start the race on the hard tyres, with his next stint raced on prime again and finally ended on the soft compound after his second pit stop, a tactic Ferrari was relatively certain would work.

“I was confident in the tyres, to be honest, because Felipe (Massa) used the soft tyre in the first stint and I think he did 14 laps, so 14 laps with maybe a heavy car in the first stint and we were 15 laps to the end with a light car,” Alonso went on to explain.

“So we were quite convinced the softs were OK but they were a little bit slower, obviously a little bit too much understeer, so the balanced changed and killed the performance of the car a little bit and we were a bit too slow.

“We knew, more or less, that the soft was a little bit slower, so we needed to open up a gap in the first two stints when we were on different tyres to Mark and we knew that that gap was for sure getting closer and closer at the end when we put on the softs, and what we opened up at the beginning was not enough,” he pointed out.

Alonso pitted on lap 15 for the primes and on lap 37 for the options which suggested perhaps he could have gone longer on the hard tyres he started with.

The choice of tyre strategy was admittedly determined by the pace in the final practice session on Saturday - where Ferrari concluded it was more confident with the hard tyre – in what was the only dry running the teams were able to get ahead of the largely wet weekend.

But BBC F1’s technical analyst Gary Anderson, a former technical director of Jordan, Stewart and Jaguar, believes that if Alonso would have gone longer on the first set of primes, Webber would have taken the lead after the first round of pit stops.

“They did it because Webber was starting to catch them at about half a second a lap and they wanted to ensure Alonso came out of the pits still comfortably ahead,” Anderson wrote in his column on the BBC website.

“But Webber was closing so fast because he was on new tyres at the time. That edge would have gone away pretty quickly,” he reasoned.

However, Webber was willing to take no chances although the team was certain that Alonso was starting to struggle.

“Fernando was not quite out of touch and after the last stop, my engineer Ciaron (Pilbeam) came on the radio saying that Fernando was not doing much on the option tyres,” Webber said. “But I know Fernando is a wily old fox, I thought he was looking after the tyres and just waiting to pull the pin and go a little bit. But when I got within two seconds I thought maybe he’s in a little bit of trouble and it was real.

“That’s when you’ve got to smell the blood and you’ve got to go for it,” he added putting his faith in the pit wall

[sav_pap]

F1 Pulse
Alonso’s British GP loss not down to strategy© Ubaid Parkar, 10 July 2012
© Ferrari

Fernando Alonso would have been a sitting duck against the Red Bull no matter what strategy he would have opted for at the British Grand Prix on Sunday.
The Ferrari driver, who started from pole position, lost the lead of the race at Silverstone four laps from the end to Mark Webber, who went on to win the race from the Spaniard.
The double world champion had opted to start the race on the hard tyres, with his next stint raced on prime again and finally ended on the soft compound after his second pit stop, a tactic Ferrari was relatively certain would work.

“I was confident in the tyres, to be honest, because Felipe (Massa) used the soft tyre in the first stint and I think he did 14 laps, so 14 laps with maybe a heavy car in the first stint and we were 15 laps to the end with a light car,” Alonso went on to explain.

“So we were quite convinced the softs were OK but they were a little bit slower, obviously a little bit too much understeer, so the balanced changed and killed the performance of the car a little bit and we were a bit too slow.

“We knew, more or less, that the soft was a little bit slower, so we needed to open up a gap in the first two stints when we were on different tyres to Mark and we knew that that gap was for sure getting closer and closer at the end when we put on the softs, and what we opened up at the beginning was not enough,” he pointed out.

Alonso pitted on lap 15 for the primes and on lap 37 for the options which suggested perhaps he could have gone longer on the hard tyres he started with.

The choice of tyre strategy was admittedly determined by the pace in the final practice session on Saturday - where Ferrari concluded it was more confident with the hard tyre – in what was the only dry running the teams were able to get ahead of the largely wet weekend.

But BBC F1’s technical analyst Gary Anderson, a former technical director of Jordan, Stewart and Jaguar, believes that if Alonso would have gone longer on the first set of primes, Webber would have taken the lead after the first round of pit stops.

“They did it because Webber was starting to catch them at about half a second a lap and they wanted to ensure Alonso came out of the pits still comfortably ahead,” Anderson wrote in his column on the BBC website.

“But Webber was closing so fast because he was on new tyres at the time. That edge would have gone away pretty quickly,” he reasoned.

However, Webber was willing to take no chances although the team was certain that Alonso was starting to struggle.

“Fernando was not quite out of touch and after the last stop, my engineer Ciaron (Pilbeam) came on the radio saying that Fernando was not doing much on the option tyres,” Webber said. “But I know Fernando is a wily old fox, I thought he was looking after the tyres and just waiting to pull the pin and go a little bit. But when I got within two seconds I thought maybe he’s in a little bit of trouble and it was real.

“That’s when you’ve got to smell the blood and you’ve got to go for it,” he added putting his faith in the pit wall

Having in mind our car's better behaviour with heavy fuel load perhaps starting with the hards wasn't so good idea.
Wearing the same tyres with Webber in the start and relying on our better performance on heavy car then maybe things could turn around...

[Hornet]

Sounds like the car's balance changed as the fuel load went down. :-??

[sav_pap]

Sounds like the car's balance changed as the fuel load went down. :-??

Damn bring back refueling :thumb

[Ferrari Man]

We have had that problem since the start of the year..