Alonso ‘has problems’ when he loses – Marko

[vcs316]

Dec.3 (GMM/Inautonews.com) Dr Helmut Marko has hinted he thinks Fernando Alonso is a bad loser.

“He seems to have problems if he doesn’t win,” said the leading Red Bull Racing official, speaking after the FIA rejected Ferrari’s challenge to Sebastian Vettel’s title over a disputed yellow flag pass at the 2012 Brazil finale.

“When he (Alonso) doesn’t win, then he develops incredible political skills,” Marko added at a celebratory event in Graz, Austria.

As the yellow flag saga unfurled, Spaniard Alonso referred to “the correct rules” being his “miracles”.

It was also rumoured that the Alonso camp got fully behind the campaign to disseminate the video evidence of Vettel’s allegedly illegal overtaking throughout the internet.

As for next year, Marko has no problem admitting that Red Bull will be a favourite.

“We assume that we will have a competitive car. Why should things change so much? We have the same team.”

Also essentially the same in 2013 will be the regulations, leaving Marko to point out that the one changing element will be Pirelli’s significantly different tyres.

And he thinks Ferrari will continue to be the main enemy.

“McLaren has been weakened significantly by the departure of Hamilton,” said Marko.

“Despite what Niki Lauda says, I don’t see the possibility that he (Hamilton) will be racing for the championship (at Mercedes). That leaves only Ferrari.

“It will surely be a tough fight with them again.”

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And Vettel is NOT a sore loser? What a prat!!!

[radosav]

Marko has problems when Fernando wins! It is so pathetic to hear these attacks on Fernando and Ferrari. Their ' finger boy ' won championship but Fernando's driving this year and Ferrari's strategy moves and team tactics will always hurt them cause there is a team and driver that made better job! Red bull had much better car, that's all.

[fratelliferrari]

I don't like that additude of RBR! They always think they know everything better and that what they say is the truth. Shut your mouth MArko!

[Senna4Ever]

Dec.3 (GMM/Inautonews.com) Dr Helmut Marko has hinted he thinks Fernando Alonso is a bad loser.

“When he (Alonso) doesn’t win, then he develops incredible political skills,” Marko added at a celebratory event in Graz, Austria.



Then both must be made from the same wood ...




It was also rumoured that the Alonso camp got fully behind the campaign to disseminate the video evidence of Vettel’s allegedly illegal overtaking throughout the internet.


We should be scared ...
it seems that the world is in new danger by a new organized administration.
Funny to imagine: Papa Fernando and Mama Fernando writing emails to Ferrari and post messages on Facebook/Twitter
Every employee of Santander bank too ... additional special offer for Santander Customers today: write an protest Email to Ferrari and you'll get a 2% interest rate for the first year ...

And behind of it all: Dr. Evil Fernando Alonso ... trying to destroy innocent german good boy Vettel ...

nice christmas story too ... :roll

[diesel08]

Dec.3 (GMM/Inautonews.com) Dr Helmut Marko has hinted he thinks Fernando Alonso is a bad loser.

“He seems to have problems if he doesn’t win,” said the leading Red Bull Racing official, speaking after the FIA rejected Ferrari’s challenge to Sebastian Vettel’s title over a disputed yellow flag pass at the 2012 Brazil finale.

“When he (Alonso) doesn’t win, then he develops incredible political skills,” Marko added at a celebratory event in Graz, Austria.

As the yellow flag saga unfurled, Spaniard Alonso referred to “the correct rules” being his “miracles”.

It was also rumoured that the Alonso camp got fully behind the campaign to disseminate the video evidence of Vettel’s allegedly illegal overtaking throughout the internet.

As for next year, Marko has no problem admitting that Red Bull will be a favourite.

“We assume that we will have a competitive car. Why should things change so much? We have the same team.”

Also essentially the same in 2013 will be the regulations, leaving Marko to point out that the one changing element will be Pirelli’s significantly different tyres.

And he thinks Ferrari will continue to be the main enemy.

“McLaren has been weakened significantly by the departure of Hamilton,” said Marko.

“Despite what Niki Lauda says, I don’t see the possibility that he (Hamilton) will be racing for the championship (at Mercedes). That leaves only Ferrari.

“It will surely be a tough fight with them again.”

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And Vettel is NOT a sore loser? What a prat!!!
So stupid is this guy!

[diesel08]

Dec.3 (GMM/Inautonews.com) Dr Helmut Marko has hinted he thinks Fernando Alonso is a bad loser.

“He seems to have problems if he doesn’t win,” said the leading Red Bull Racing official, speaking after the FIA rejected Ferrari’s challenge to Sebastian Vettel’s title over a disputed yellow flag pass at the 2012 Brazil finale.

“When he (Alonso) doesn’t win, then he develops incredible political skills,” Marko added at a celebratory event in Graz, Austria.

As the yellow flag saga unfurled, Spaniard Alonso referred to “the correct rules” being his “miracles”.

It was also rumoured that the Alonso camp got fully behind the campaign to disseminate the video evidence of Vettel’s allegedly illegal overtaking throughout the internet.

As for next year, Marko has no problem admitting that Red Bull will be a favourite.

“We assume that we will have a competitive car. Why should things change so much? We have the same team.”

Also essentially the same in 2013 will be the regulations, leaving Marko to point out that the one changing element will be Pirelli’s significantly different tyres.

And he thinks Ferrari will continue to be the main enemy.

“McLaren has been weakened significantly by the departure of Hamilton,” said Marko.

“Despite what Niki Lauda says, I don’t see the possibility that he (Hamilton) will be racing for the championship (at Mercedes). That leaves only Ferrari.

“It will surely be a tough fight with them again.”

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And Vettel is NOT a sore loser? What a prat!!!
So stupid is this guy!

[Nathan]

Oh god. :rotfl

[Hermann]

The real problem is not that kind of articles being published. Its that there are people who want to believe the drivel.

[Hornet]

Funny he should say that. Because I remember Vettel was the one screaming over the radio when he gets overtaken by Lewis. :Hmm


Marko has problems when Fernando wins!
Exactly.

[Massimo]

" the leading Red Bull official"

Oh well, "in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king"

[fratelliferrari]

Helmut Marko is just crazy. He could only dream of having a driver like Fernando at his stupid EnergyDrink Racingteam!

[Ashley Prisk]

good luck to ferrari for the 2013 championship

[EL_NANDO]

"It was also rumoured that the Alonso camp got fully behind the campaign to disseminate the video evidence of Vettel’s allegedly illegal overtaking throughout the internet."

Where do these rumours even start? What does this exactly mean? Alonso and his mates creating new youtube accounts and uploading the video?

[fratelliferrari]

The guy is just crazy. He is just trying to blame Ferrari and Fernando of things that will never be true. The sad story is that he probably thinks he is right:furious

[Hermann]

"It was also rumoured that the Alonso camp got fully behind the campaign to disseminate the video evidence of Vettel’s allegedly illegal overtaking throughout the internet."

Where do these rumours even start? What does this exactly mean? Alonso and his mates creating new youtube accounts and uploading the video?

I think it originally came from some italian blogger, was copied by some german news (BILD), spanish media jumped on the same train, and finally reached BBC news. But of course nobody knows for sure. Ever tried to play chinese wisphers? :lol

[Tobes]

To be fair, he does speak some truth, firstly Fernando does have a problem losing, and rightly so, i'd have a problem if he liked losing, and secondly we will be the main threat to their Championship aspirations next year...

Also, i'd expect the Fernando camp to be behind him in that situation, in the same way the Vettel camp would be behind him, and i'm pleased he has 'incredible political skills', will serve him well mixing with the likes of Marko and the Formula 1 circus...

Actually, other than insinuate that Fernando is a bad loser (which isn't really a bad thing) what has he said...?

Roll on Melbourne... :-)

[Italian Spirit]

Herr Doktor Marko has a problem, punkt!

[Liscia]

Marko has problems when he wins-or probably any other time as well. What
a sour oaf!

[Mrs Alonso]

I think I actually despise Marko. Ever since I saw him tear strips off Jaime Alguersuari. Not a nice man at all.

[Sianellen]

I think I actually despise Marko. Ever since I saw him tear strips off Jaime Alguersuari. Not a nice man at all.

That was ridiculous when he did that. All because Jaime got in the way of one of Seb's practice laps or something? Just pathetic.

[mirafiori]

Come on Ferrari lets teach Marko, and the rest of the Red Bull team a lesson in 2013. And this time we will send them a Christmas card.

[zakfourie]

Can't believe he says such things to the press???!!?

They won, he can just shut up.

[alecf1]

It is really hard to admit that I have the same nationality as Marko. I really think about leaving Austria. :-D

[mark p]

Sure thing cyclops.

[Cheeseman]

Helmut Marko forgets it wasn't just Fernando and Ferrari that saw the yellow flag. The whole world saw it and every F1 fan asked the same question. Red Bull would have done the same and they would have dubbed Ferrari cheaters if the situation was reversed

[Cheeseman]

It is really hard to admit that I have the same nationality as Marko. I really think about leaving Austria. :-D

Every country has its fair share of idiots so no nationality attached to Helmut Marko's antics ;-)

[mugdoc]

When losing is a problem, its natural. But it seems when he's pathetic drivers wins then there's problem came along, why this isn't called abnormal?
If Alonso had a problem with losing, why he didnt show it from the early season?

This person(Marko) is idiot pervert!! :furious

[fratelliferrari]

That guy is just insane! That incident with Jaime wasn't during FP or so? Not even Qualifying! Let's teach him and all those stupid people a lesson next year and get WDC and WCC!:ferrarifl

[varun]

Useless people ..and their useless comments...

Enough is enough,.,,
We need to win it now...The WDC AND WCC....SHUT THE MOUThs of the USELESS GUYS :furious...(errr..forum rules...:-??)

[matthewrees]

Sadly there isnt an automatic filter for Mr Marko's mouth ! Maybe someone can invent one to deal with it the same way junk spam emails are dealt with !
Surely though he is stating the obvious ? Is it not normal for such highly competitive individuals to struggle to accept defeat sometimes ? Dont get me wrong I dont agree with what he is saying and I also dont think there was some kind of Alonso led mafia to have the result overturned, as Alonso himself said "Frankly, I'm not that interested in what the opinion is of me in Germany or elsewhere," Alonso said.

[Alessandra]

It's Marko's job!
Like Hamilton (although probably not as of 2013 in his case), Vettel's a creature of the team/ persons who put a lot of money into his training and presentation. They also fight their battles off track for them, but it comes at a price.
Anyone can see that Vettel's not a happy bunny at all when he loses or the car lets him down! None of them is.

[Jose Lorca]

Calling a rival driver a bad loser. Does he not see the irony?

The Red Bull team must be so embarrassed having to put up with this old fool Marko.

[scuderiafan]

My reaction to reading this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86MO-JWTNjo

[fratelliferrari]

LOL exact my reaction too!

[Rob]

My reaction to reading this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86MO-JWTNjo

off topic sorry....

@scuderiafan has the Rock come back to WWE?

[Rob]

Back on topic...

Yeah we all bad loosers at heart, but to say it like that and not even mention the great year Fernando has had and bad it hard for his little "Golden Child". Just belittle Fernando and Ferrari.

(Wonder why your Red Bull isnt that liked in F1 Marko?:Hmm How many fans around the world have Ferrari got? and how big is the name Ferrari around the world? show some respect)

[Massimo]

Ha,ha, LOL,
And i'd like to add.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o83zBGq2XoM

[Rob]

@ Massimo

:thumb :rotfl

[scuderiafan]

off topic sorry....

@scuderiafan has the Rock come back to WWE?

Not really, mate. He odes a couple cameo's, but that's it.

[Giallo 550]

Marko is another jerk who needs to learn to keep his mouth shut. It was already mentioned, but Vettel was the one screaming like a little girl when Hamilton blew by him in Austin.

[fratelliferrari]

Can't Marko just concentrate on all his ''fabulous extreme sports'' instead of blaming Fernando!

[Rob]

VETTEL ALWAYS WINS' IN NEWEY CARS - MARKO
Monday 3 December at 07:35 : Dec.3 (GMM) Dr Helmut Marko has hit back at Fernando Alonso, after the Spaniard recently said his real championship rival is Red Bull designer Adrian Newey.

"Our Spanish adversary does not seem quite up to date with his knowledge of the quality of Herr Vettel," Marko, a leading figure at the reigning champion team, said at a celebratory event in Graz, Austria.

"Yes, Vettel races in a Newey car, but he (Alonso) seems to have missed that we put two of them (Newey cars) at the start, and at the end it is always Vettel who wins."

Marko's comments might be seen as a barb at Vettel's teammate Mark Webber, who this season won twice in the latest Newey-penned RB8.

Australian Webber, however, does not think he is being steadily eased into the 'number 2' role at Red Bull.

"I'm not thinking I've got to be playing a team role as such," he told reporters late last week in Tasmania, for his regular outdoor adventure event.

"I'm there (in F1) for myself, to get the best results possible and to do that I need to be part of the team."

http://www.onestopstrategy.com/dailyf1news/nieuw/article/18834-%27Vettel+always+wins%27+in+Newey+cars+-+Marko.html

[fratelliferrari]

This just say that he does't even have the slightest knowledge of F1. Let that clown talk!

[Hermann]

:rotfl

[Dino]

This just say that he does't even have the slightest knowledge of F1. Let that clown talk!

I only hope this Motor Mouth Idiot will have nothing to do with Vettel if he ever comes to Ferrari.:baby

[fratelliferrari]

I actually hope Vettel will never drive for us either. It's just still a little kid.

[Forzi]

Don't really get what the hell is wrong with that team... It's something like a team of the damned or w/e. Going from drivers, up to the guys that run the team, they are just acting classless, as if they want the world to hate them. They don't have any respect to their competitors, the people that run the sport. Starting with Vettel showing his middle finger to other racers, calling the rules supid, comments against their rivals and ending with how this clown Marko talks about other teams/drivers. No surprise that no other team likes em, heck even Webber seems to hate it there. To be honest, i feel sorry for him. From his comments in the past years, really really get the impression that he hates it there and would gladly just move to another team with a good car...

[fratelliferrari]

Yes Forzi you are right. Mark is the only one at RBR who shows respect to others and doesn't say stupid things like the rest of that team do.

[Massimo]

Don't really get what the hell is wrong with that team... It's something like a team of the damned or w/e. Going from drivers, up to the guys that run the team, they are just acting classless, as if they want the world to hate them. They don't have any respect to their competitors, the people that run the sport. Starting with Vettel showing his middle finger to other racers, calling the rules supid, comments against their rivals and ending with how this clown Marko talks about other teams/drivers. No surprise that no other team likes em, heck even Webber seems to hate it there. To be honest, i feel sorry for him. From his comments in the past years, really really get the impression that he hates it there and would gladly just move to another team with a good car...

He had the chance to come to Ferrari, but chose to stay at Red Bull, who gave him a completely different car after signing his new contract, but he should have known by now how they work.

[fratelliferrari]

Yes that's true but Iam very happy he didn't come to Ferrari. Iam so so happy with Felipe and there is no one around on the grid that looks like him. He is just a fantastic person!

[Forzi]

He had the chance to come to Ferrari, but chose to stay at Red Bull, who gave him a completely different car after signing his new contract, but he should have known by now how they work.
First of all, it was rumors. No real evidence he was given the deal and rejected it. Ferrari, or not, he followed the better car. That's what many drivers would do. He chose to swallow the bitterness of being in a team he dislikes/is disliked.

Have the feeling, that Webber's gonna snap eventually. Since 2011, his car was just unimaginatively unreliable. I mean, i'd get it if it had problems a few times, but it's 2 years in a row, when his car is having problems over and over again, while Vettel usually walks away clean. Don't have to be a sherlock to see that RedBull is trying to get it's boy up there and screw the other driver, just to make Vettel look better then he is... Just remember the times when the car didn't really perform. Webber almost always came on top when the car wasn't the best for both of em.

[mugdoc]

Welll i think he's got a problem with winning by cheating, so he blamed Alonso for losing :furious

[Kingdom Hearts]

In order to bahs Alonso, he is saying that Webber it's trash and Vettel god?. Poor Mark.

[fratelliferrari]

Still my favourite moment of Mark was when he won in Silverstone and said:"not bad for a second driver" :rotfl

[Massimo]

First of all, it was rumors. No real evidence he was given the deal and rejected it. Ferrari, or not, he followed the better car. That's what many drivers would do. He chose to swallow the bitterness of being in a team he dislikes/is disliked.

Have the feeling, that Webber's gonna snap eventually. Since 2011, his car was just unimaginatively unreliable. I mean, i'd get it if it had problems a few times, but it's 2 years in a row, when his car is having problems over and over again, while Vettel usually walks away clean. Don't have to be a sherlock to see that RedBull is trying to get it's boy up there and screw the other driver, just to make Vettel look better then he is... Just remember the times when the car didn't really perform. Webber almost always came on top when the car wasn't the best for both of em.

Sure it was only rumors? I read a number of times Webber himself admitted he had talks with Ferrari, but in the end signed a new deal with Red Bull.
Ofcourse, the whole Red Bull thing is just a Vettel one man show, and Webber fit's in great because of his rebellious character and the Red Bull "extreme" image, everytime he disobeys an order they all put on their carefully practiced worried faces, so it looks like Mark is actually racing Vettel, yeah sure you are Mark, sure you are.

[justjesper]

I think he i right :-)

[Greig]

I think he i right :-)

Just like your hero MS then, at least Alonso never spat his dummy out when on track and rammed others or parked his car.

[Red passion]

I think he i right :-)

+1

[Greig]

MS fans saying another driver has problems with losing is priceless :-)

[FA fan]

Well Alonso has incredible political skills,that's not such so bad,heis mentally very tough!! And Alonso having a problem when losing,is a good thing,i would see it a problem if losing was ok for him!! Fierce competitors hate losing,and most have a problem with it!!
Frankly I have read some comments,and would like to say this,I'm glad I'm not a hypocrite!!

[Hermann]

If Fernando really had such amazing political skills he would have certainly found a better way of handling the press over time, and he would probably still be a Macca driver as well. Unfortunately he does not possess such skills. He is just being honest and says what he thinks, which is also most certainly the best way of getting some people all worked up. Since a politician would never make the mistake of saying what he is thinking, Fernando's skills in that direction are close to zero. Imho.

[FA fan]

If Fernando really had such amazing political skills he would have certainly found a better way of handling the press over time, and he would probably still be a Macca driver as well. Unfortunately he does not possess such skills. He is just being honest and says what he thinks, which is also most certainly the best way of getting some people all worked up. Since a politician would never make the mistake of saying what he is thinking, Fernando's skills in that direction are close to zero. Imho.

Ok so let's go back a few years to 2007,there was a controversy also after the brazil race,That many teams were using illegally cooled fuel,and that cars that finished ahead of Lewis,would be disqualified making Lewis the champion and not Kimi! So what was Alonso reaction,this is what he said"It would be a joke,and we've had too many,If something like that happened,it would end up burying the sport"
And now he tweeted we should enforce the rules!!
Now that's not honesty is it;)
Btw,I am an Alonso fan:-D

[Hermann]

Ok so let's go back a few years to 2007,there was a controversy also after the brazil race,That many teams were using illegally cooled fuel,and that cars that finished ahead of Lewis,would be disqualified making Lewis the champion and not Kimi! So what was Alonso reaction,this is what he said"It would be a joke,and we've had too many,If something like that happened,it would end up burying the sport"
And now he tweeted we should enforce the rules!!
Now that's not honesty is it;)
Btw,I am an Alonso fan:-D

Of course its honesty- he had no interest in Hamilton winning that title in 2007, and understandably so. And i didn't see such a tweet from Fernando. Really his 'politics' are highly overrrated, and its an 'argument' used a lot by people who don't like him to paint him in a bad light. Maybe its a question of how you define 'politics' :xmassmile:

(oh we have the christmas smileys back! Nice)

[FA fan]

Of course its honesty- he had no interest in Hamilton winning that title in 2007, and understandably so. And i didn't see such a tweet from Fernando. Really his 'politics' are highly overrrated, and its an 'argument' used a lot by people who don't like him to paint him in a bad light. Maybe its a question of how you define 'politics' :xmassmile:

(oh we have the christmas smileys back! Nice)

Yes for sure he didn't want Lewis to win,that's honesty,but he also didn't want to enforce the rules after itvwas declared that kimi was the champion,and want to enforce it now,cuz he's losing is not honesty and the point I'm discussing:)
anyways,where in Germany are you?:-)

[Hermann]

Yes for sure he didn't want Lewis to win,that's honesty,but he also didn't want to enforce the rules after itvwas declared that kimi was the champion,and want to enforce it now,cuz he's losing is not honesty and the point I'm discussing:)
anyways,where in Germany are you?:-)


Since you are insisting that Fernando said or tweeted something about him wanting the rules inforced in this case, while in his press conference in Valencia he said he did not follow everything about that because he was on vacation already, could you please name your souce for that?

[FA fan]

Since you are insisting that Fernando said or tweeted something about him wanting the rules inforced in this case, while in his press conference in Valencia he said he did not follow everything about that because he was on vacation already, could you please name your souce for that?


https://mobile.twitter.com/StopwatchSuite/status/273919393191309312#!/StopwatchSuite/status/273919393191309312

Basically his tweet meant he is hoping to enforce the rules

[Hermann]

https://mobile.twitter.com/StopwatchSuite/status/273919393191309312#!/StopwatchSuite/status/273919393191309312

Basically his tweet meant he is hoping to enforce the rules

Oh that one. Well, we don't really know what this tweet meant. It could also be about RB in general. Or it could have nothing to do with RB at all. Look, its a common practise especially when it comes to Fernando to start nitpicking on every word one of the 'star drivers' is saying or writing on twitter, but i'd say for someone who lost the title in the last race by only 3 points Fernando has been very quiet. I think i would have said a lot more, and i don't think you could call me 'political'.

'Politics' is something the press has written on Fernando's flag like so many other things- he still is their favourite villain. And i don't even believe half of it. I would like him to be a bit more 'diplomatic' at times, but he still has that tendency to say what he thinks- and i still prefer him to be that way.

When you look for politics look at RB. They are a fine bunch of bigmouths coupled with some inferiority complex, making sure FIA looks the other way most of the time, and they fit a lot more into the role of the villain- the press just hasn't really picked that up yet.

[FA fan]

Oh that one. Well, we don't really know what this tweet meant. It could also be about RB in general. Or it could have nothing to do with RB at all. Look, its a common practise especially when it comes to Fernando to start nitpicking on every word one of the 'star drivers' is saying or writing on twitter, but i'd say for someone who lost the title in the last race by only 3 points Fernando has been very quiet. I think i would have said a lot more, and i don't think you could call me 'political'.

'Politics' is something the press has written on Fernando's flag like so many other things- he still is their favourite villain. And i don't even believe half of it. I would like him to be a bit more 'diplomatic' at times, but he still has that tendency to say what he thinks- and i still prefer him to be that way.

When you look for politics look at RB. They are a fine bunch of bigmouths coupled with some inferiority complex, making sure FIA looks the other way most of the time, and they fit a lot more into the role of the villain- the press just hasn't really picked that up yet.

Well don't know about you,but had I lost by 3 points,I would have said lot of things:) I don't take losses very nicely:-D
Well RB and specially Marko really gets on my nerves,really can't stand them,whats worse,specially when your in Germany,is every time you go to a gas station to buy water,you see the name Vittel,your temper just rises!!

[ferrari4life]

I dont even want to read what he wrote. I know this is of the offseason but why do we give this idiot any attention around here.

[Italian Spirit]

If Fernando really had such amazing political skills he would have certainly found a better way of handling the press over time, and he would probably still be a Macca driver as well. Unfortunately he does not possess such skills. He is just being honest and says what he thinks, which is also most certainly the best way of getting some people all worked up. Since a politician would never make the mistake of saying what he is thinking, Fernando's skills in that direction are close to zero. Imho.
:clap +1.
Spot on, Hermann!

[Massimo]

:clap +1.
Spot on, Hermann!

All the time you have to tell a the truth!

[fratelliferrari]

That's what I like so much about both our drivers. Felipe and Fernando are just always very honest and that's what I like about them.

[Hermann]

All the time you have to tell a the truth!

Oh man it took me a while before i got that joke but...:rotfl

[FFFerrari]

That's what I like so much about both our drivers. Felipe and Fernando are just always very honest and that's what I like about them.

Felipe is pretty open and honest guy and his moods show from his outlook. Fernando isn't your typical spanish guy, he doesn't like the attention and would prefer to stay in the comfort of his home if he could help it but his job demands a lot of attention from media and he handles that well.

[fratelliferrari]

Yes I think you are right on that. Felipe haa always been very honest and open. But I got the feeling Fernando is a lot more open and honest since he arrived at Ferrari, he knows we are the best and most passionate team:xmasbiggrin:

[impactX]

A Helmet talking does not deserve a 3-page thread.

[Brakefade]

Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser.

Alonso has political skills if he loses, but at least he doesn't turn into a whiny little brat.