Hungarian Grand Prix 2013 - Race thread

[Katu]

Let's get it started then

[ManFromMilan]

Here is to a great race for Scuderia Ferrari:clap
:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl

[Kingdom Hearts]

:ferrarifl

Come on guys bring us a good result.

[Hornet]

Good day everyone. :wave

Anyone happens to have a live stream link?
vipbox for some reason isn't working

[Katu]

http://webfirstrow.eu/watch/197820/1/watch-f1-:-grand-prix-budapest,-hungary---race.html

[ManFromMilan]

Try this one:

http://www.webfirstrow.eu/sport/motosport.html

[Alessandra]

Fernando and Felipe tweeting full of beans - good luck both. And the whole team! Go Ferrari:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl

[M.K]

Have a good feeling about the race.

[Hornet]

Thanks for the links:thumb

[wisepie]

About time our luck changed and we show them that we're not giving up, pray for a clean start and see what happens, you never know what's what until the lights go out. Buona fortuna Fernando e Felipe, siamo con voi.

[Rishu]

Track temperature already 50C, bad news for Hamilton, interesting to see how we do in these conditions.


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[Katu]

Scuderia Ferrari ‏@InsideFerrari 1m

#HungarianGP La partenza sarà molto importante ma non necessariamente decisiva. Start will be very important but not necessarily decisive.

[Greig]

Problems for Nico?

[Katu]

problems for Rosberg?

[Hornet]

Nico Rosberg car is being called back to the pits :Hmm

[Katu]

Nico is on grid now anyway

[Hornet]

sigh... false alarm :-P

[SinanOzerS]

Air Temp: 34 C
Track Temp: 51 C

[REDARMYSOJA]

I have faith today will be good. They might have a fast car but we have Alonso.

[Rishu]

All the best guys !


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[Katu]

i wonder if Ricciardo's chhekbones ever hurt from smiling that broadly

[Hornet]

Best of luck everyone :ferrarifl

[Kyss4k]

Rock n roll!

[FerrariF60]

good luck for our BOYS and let's hope at teh end of race we can end up with a GOOD RESULT!!!

forza ferrari, fernando,felipe

[DIEK]

The drink water pump of F.A is out...a classic for him when more heat in track... :doh

[Mambo_King]

On Spanish TV they said Fer has no fresh water available during race, the pump for fresh water is no working so he will be thirsty ...:-??

[FA fan]

Good luck to both our boys,hoping for a good clean start..:ferrarifl:ferrarifl

[tifosi1993]

FORZA FERRARI

:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl

[REDARMYSOJA]

It's go time!

Forza Felipe!

Forza Fernando!

Forza Ferrari!



:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl

[Katu]

i hope we'll see a good clean start and wonderdul race. fingers crossed

[Scuderia85]

Forza Ferrari

[Paulo Goncalves]

Looking for points only. good luck for Scuderia

[wacc]

Good luck F+F+F! :ferrarifl

[REDARMYSOJA]

There goes Massa's wing

[Katu]

#HungarianGP @alo_oficial P4 @Felipe1Massa P5 ma ha l'ala anteriore danneggiata / with a damaged front wing

[Paulo Goncalves]

Time to fight wisely

[Kyss4k]

Wow, we are losing big time...

[Paulo Goncalves]

Far away, maybe saving something :-D

[Katu]

second sector time is horrible

[Uzair Ahmed]

Not bad

[fronaldo]

alonso saves tires?

[Kyss4k]

second sector time is horrible

Yep, more than half second slower than the top 3.

[Paulo Goncalves]

Massa doing good job

[Katu]

i'm expecting an overtaking move from Grosjean pretty soon

[Paulo Goncalves]

Crashjean is geting bieber

[FerrariF60]

our pace is nowhere....we are falling back big time....unless we're saving something

[Paulo Goncalves]

Strategy i guess

[Kyss4k]

Strategy i guess

Hopefully

[DJTaurus]

our pace is nowhere....we are falling back big time....unless we're saving something

i dont see any point for tyre saving... its a short track and everyone will probably do the same number of pit stops. Hamilton now has the best pace.

[Paulo Goncalves]

Hamster loosing grip

[Paulo Goncalves]

will pit in moments

[Paulo Goncalves]

Massa tyre is graining

[Kyss4k]

Lady luck really has to hate Felipe...

[Katu]

Lady luck really has to hate Felipe...

he ran himself into Rosberg, no need to blame lady luck here. luck is that he still has that frontwing on

[Katu]

vettel pits

[Uzair Ahmed]

Massa should pit..that front wing is pretty shaky

[REDARMYSOJA]

Felipe is doing a great job considering his front wing is smashed.

[DJTaurus]

So alonso made a pit stop... so we were soooooo slow with soft compound!

[FerrariF60]

So alonso made a pit stop... so we were soooooo slow with soft compound!

that can only mean that we're going to be even SLOWER with teh mediums

[jocaranz]

hope we can recover, that was a lot of gap

[Greig]

he ran himself into Rosberg, no need to blame lady luck here. luck is that he still has that frontwing on

Erm Nico ran into him, Massa was on the inside.

[Uzair Ahmed]

Yes JB is my friend

[Greig]

Did Jenson move over for Lewis?

[DJTaurus]

that can only mean that we're going to be even SLOWER with teh mediums

Only hope for Grashjean to overtake finger boy and of course once again damage limitation mr domenicali.

[FerrariF60]

the BUTTON train...LOL

[FerrariF60]

Only hope for Grashjean to overtake finger boy and of course once again damage limitation mr domenicali.

yup...sad but true that we're still in damage limitation at mid season

[Katu]

Erm Nico ran into him, Massa was on the inside.

my bad, aplogizes

[Katu]

Fernando now quicker than these 3 infront of him

[Kyss4k]

Vettel has damaged FW!!!

[Uzair Ahmed]

Alonso also joins the party
Problems for vettel

[FerrariF60]

Vettel has damaged FW!!!

yes, yes, yes....the screaming school girl is WOUNDED.!!!!!

[Katu]

i can't believe i'm cheering for Grosjean

[DJTaurus]

come on Alonso

[fronaldo]

massa lost his position to kimi

[Kyss4k]

Kimi flying...

[anuragiyer8989]

Aargh! Come on Gro, show ur crashing skills!!!

[REDARMYSOJA]

Vettel train.

[FerrariF60]

Aargh! Come on Gro, show ur crashing skills!!!

LOL....it's about time you take out pettel....or at least damage his front wing more

[anuragiyer8989]

God! This track sucks!!!

[FerrariF60]

God! This track sucks!!!

well we all knew that....no amount of DRS can help at this track

[71dino]

Alonso 6... massa 9...
if grosjean isn't going to pass vettel he needs to get out of the way, he has had opportunities.

[Katu]

grosjean being grosjean on wrong man

[Uzair Ahmed]

Lol grosjean is a flop..more chances for alonso now

[DJTaurus]

grosjean is still fast

[FerrariF60]

grosjean being grosjean on wrong man
yeah, YOU don't want to get button.....wanna get PEtTEL

[fronaldo]

wow..seriously worst pace

[DJTaurus]

clever pit stop for grosjean.... they know that they are faster than red bulls in clear track.

[Kyss4k]

Alonso is slower than Vettel with broken FW and 1 or 2 laps older tyres. :-s

[Katu]

vettel's car cured himself?

[DJTaurus]

alonso cant even follow vettel who has more ruined tyres.

[rico]

This is so depressing. Now we have slower race pace than Mercedes. Downgrading is working amazingly :lol

[Katu]

and webber will soon overtake Fernando

[DJTaurus]

Alonso should leave webber to chase vettel.

[vagos]

We have a slow car unfortunately ..... :(

[Kyss4k]

Vettel FL... what?

[vagos]

I don't think Alonso will giv eup easily to webber

[vagos]

Romen passed massa :(

[Red is Best]

We are just plain slow.

[vagos]

We are just plain slow.

I agree to that :(

[FerrariF60]

our race pace is NOWHERE...webber would have passed alonso long ago if it wasn't for this nature of track

[DJTaurus]

Suck them all is the best topic for Ferrari's 2013 championship efforts.... it needs a lot of effort to bring downgrades race by race. Also no excuses for high temperatures... it hurts a lot watching them all these years and i feel more sorry for alonso who always tried to inspire the team.

[vagos]

Even mclaren are passing us.......

[DIEK]

Massa with damaged front wing yet?

[Kyss4k]

We can't do nothing to beat Vettel... Our only chance is him crashing, because even with a damaged car, it is still faster then ours.

[vagos]

Massa pitted.....

[Kyss4k]

We need to let Lewis go. Wea can't hold him up, to give Vettel a victory.

[Schumiklub]

Vettel much faster even with damaged front wing... Very frustrating

[DJTaurus]

Alonso half a second still slower than vettel.... cant believe this.

[vagos]

Is massa under investigation and for what?

[Katu]

Massa with damaged front wing yet?

still with the same fw

[71dino]

massa overtaken by G'jean... we need pace.
this is a most boring track ... massa pits- rejoins at 10th... webber is coming up on Alonso... our car just hasn't improved... Fernando is wringing all he can out of it but ....

[vagos]

Alonso is fighting with everything he has but is not enough :(

[Uzair Ahmed]

Is alonso on 2 stop?

[vagos]

Alonso 7th after pits :(:(:(

[FerrariF60]

Is alonso on 2 stop?

dont' think so

[F2008]

Is massa under investigation and for what?

Grosjean is (also) under investigation for leaving the track at Turn 4.

[DIEK]

Drive trought for Grossjean!

[Katu]

Is alonso on 2 stop?

if he doesn't plan to do 35 laps on these tyres then no

[vagos]

Romen drive through penalty ......

[FerrariF60]

penalty for crashjean

[anuragiyer8989]

We will only increase lead to pettel after this :-(

[vagos]

penalty for crashjean

Hahahahahahaha

[FerrariF60]

We will only increase lead to pettel after this :-(

unless his engine blows up....

[Greig]

Harsh penalty for Grosjean.

[vagos]

Alonso 5th now......

[vagos]

Massa 8th now

[Katu]

hülk will get penalty too

[Scuderia85]

we are so slowwwww

[Schumiklub]

We're going nowhere fast...

[stisum]

Gro got a penalty because he overtook Bieber...

[Kyss4k]

Wow, our pace is... well, we don't have any.

[Greig]

Time to turn attention to 2014

[DJTaurus]

Alonso 5th now......

And he will be sixth in a while.... grosjean pushing alonso with a lot older tyres. Bravissimo Ferrari. Well done!

[anuragiyer8989]

unless his engine blows up....

Well we've seen that that is a rare case! Last year in Brazil pettel should've retired! But no! I think the car just repairs itself! :-(

[Kyss4k]

On new tyres we are as 'fast' as Kimi on 10 laps older...

[theforce]

The Ferrari's are just sweeping the track...hope they are playing the long-run game to make some moves in the final laps.

[FerrariF60]

Time to turn attention to 2014

i think so....i have to agree with you

[Schumiklub]

Massa now faster than Alonso, maybe Alonso is saving tyres.

[fronaldo]

nice race pace..great

[FerrariF60]

Well we've seen that that is a rare case! Last year in Brazil pettel should've retired! But no! I think the car just repairs itself! :-(

i'm sure Newey has something to do with this too....LOL

[Axelsson]

Gro got a penalty because he overtook Bieber...

No. Massa

[gjoko-mkd]

Alonso`s car play samba at the every corner

[vagos]

i think so....i have to agree with you
:(

[DJTaurus]

It seems not only low but high temperatures dont suit our car... we want aroud 30-40 celsius on track... that it will be ideal for us. :P

[FerrariF60]

The Ferrari's are just sweeping the track...hope they are playing the long-run game to make some moves in the final laps.

i dont' think we're playing NOTHING....we're just simply NOWHERE

[Losticus]

Is painful to see our pace, really painful. We have a car that is not gentle with the tyres nor is faster... Season is well over, let's work on 2014.

[anuragiyer8989]

Massa now faster than Alonso, maybe Alonso is saving tyres.

Not saving! Tires are gone! Look at the rear shaking....so much under steer..... this is terrible!

[rico]

We are lucky that in Lotus they are sleeping. We have a little hope to finish ahead of Kimi.

[Schumiklub]

Alonso found the gas pedal.

[FerrariF60]

at least the ferrari will PASS a back marker this race....LOL

[Kyss4k]

Kimi won't stop again, Webber won't stop again, Grosjean is way faster... 6th place.

[NanoTheQuickest]

Where is our race pace? We are outpaced by Lotus as well this is embarrassing!

[anuragiyer8989]

The red fools are not only fast bit very clever as well.....they knew webbo's tires will take him longer....this has just played into their hands!

[rico]

Kimi won't stop again, Webber won't stop again, Grosjean is way faster... 6th place.

Webber will stop again for softs. But he will finish ahead of us either way. Probably 6th is our position

[71dino]

g'jean, after a drive through, is gaining on Fernando who is 26.5 sec behind Hamilton... summer break is here, maybe they can sort things out... this car seemed faster earlier in the season... hate this track.

[Kyss4k]

Webber will stop again for softs. But he will finish ahead of us either way. Probably 6th is our position

Oh, has to stop again... that's even worse. I thought that this way he could actually beat Vettel. No chance then. Vettel 2nd, Alonso 6th. Game over.

[bluesilhouettes]

This situation is unacceptable :-(

[Uzair Ahmed]

Even 4th position doesnt seem certain

[DJTaurus]

Oh, has to stop again... that's even worse. I thought that this way he could actually beat Vettel. No chance then. Vettel 2nd, Alonso 6th. Game over.

Yeap...2nd for finger boy and 6th for us.... K.O!

Alonso should stop racing for this season and start taking samurai lessons.

[Katu]

button could be useful again

[anuragiyer8989]

Well he managed 5th.

[F2008]

I expect Alonso to stay in 5th now.

[rico]

button could be useful again

Yep. Now 5th is possible :lol

[Uzair Ahmed]

Hammy already locked it

[Schumiklub]

Sad sad performance.

[Kyss4k]

How can we be slower than Kimi and Mark, who are on way way older tyres?

[Nova]

Sorry to say, but we are not in the same race as the leaders.
Hope we can sort this out.

[DJTaurus]

I will cheer for hamster this year. I cant stand heidi to win another title.

[71dino]

a podium is out of the question as things are... Vettel has the lead... if we are lucky Fernando will gather some 5th or 6th place points... filipe is back a ways... if Vettel wins today I don't see how anyone will challenge RB for both championships. maybe something will happen over the break... another bad day for our team, we just don't have a competitive car.

[stisum]

No. Massa

Gro did nothing wrong while overtaking Massa IMHO.
He pitted early due to damaged tyre from collision with Button, which enabled him to run in free air and actually gain position compared to Bieber.
Drivethru was undeserved this time.

[anuragiyer8989]

So now as predicted by Fernando, the team's motivation will be very low. I'm just thinking about 2014 already.....let's move on!

[ProGratis]

I will cheer for hamster this year. I cant stand heidi to win another title.

Sorry, but i can never cheer for a non-Ferrari driver. And i can't stand Ham's attitude, almost as bad as Vettel's.

[Kyss4k]

Gro did nothing wrong while overtaking Massa IMHO.
He pitted early due to damaged tyre from collision with Button, which enabled him to run in free air and actually gain position compared to Bieber.
Drivethru was undeserved this time.

He had all four wheels off the track overtaking Felipe. That's wrong to me.

[DJTaurus]

I am curious if vettel will risk to overtake kimi. He doesnt have to.

[Kyss4k]

So now as predicted by Fernando, the team's motivation will be very low. I'm just thinking about 2014 already.....let's move on!

Which will be exactly the same as this one... Good start, poor development over the season. We used to be the best in that.

[stisum]

He had all four wheels off the track overtaking Felipe. That's wrong to me.
He was not cutting chicane or something. He was faster and more skillful. Hamilton on Webber was worse situation. Ham pushed Web out across the kerbs...

[Losticus]

And when I say lets move to 2014 I mean also in the human resources area, or do you think this same people, with zero titles in six years in a row, deserves to stay at the team?

[REDARMYSOJA]

poor development over the season.

That seems to be the real problem. They just can't develop the car as the season progresses. It's been that way for several years now.

[REDARMYSOJA]

And when I say lets move to 2014 I mean also in the human resources area, or do you think this same people, with zero titles in six years in a row, deserves to stay at the team?

Well, Allison is coming back. Maybe that will help.

[Kyss4k]

He was not cutting chicane or something. He was faster and more skillful. Hamilton on Webber was worse situation. Ham pushed Web out across the kerbs...

These are the rules mate. You can not overtake someone by going behind the boundaries of the track. And he did that.

[Uzair Ahmed]

All I am interested in now is vettel vs webber

[rico]

All I am interested in now is vettel vs webber

Not gonna happen :roll

[FerrariF60]

Not gonna happen :roll

yup, not allowed to challange Pettel

[DIEK]

Meanwhile in RB box...



http://www.techreaders.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Self-Destruct-Button.jpg http://www.elpixelilustre.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/F5.gif

:lol

[wacc]

And when I say lets move to 2014 I mean also in the human resources area, or do you think this same people, with zero titles in six years in a row, deserves to stay at the team?

Yep, only people from MGP (BrawnGP) and RBR deserve to stay at their team.

[Kyss4k]

Kimi is doinf faster laps then us and he is on two stopper :rotfl This is just ridiclous.

[anuragiyer8989]

Rosberg out!

[Uzair Ahmed]

Wrong Mercedes

[REDARMYSOJA]

Nico broke it.

[FerrariF60]

Wrong Mercedes

you mean wrong team...should have been red fool's PETTEL

[Katu]

fire - well haven't seen that much

[REDARMYSOJA]

Fail 22?

[Uzair Ahmed]

rb has got some serious codes

[DJTaurus]

Webber not even driving right now. Thats what i call team orders :P

[Uzair Ahmed]

Moaning vettel
Clearly his fault

[REDARMYSOJA]

What is Vettel crying about?

[Katu]

rb has got some serious codes

that probably is that car nr2 stays behind

[Bubbles]

Yeah, the guy actually designing the car. :-)

...that's Tombazis, btw.

[Kyss4k]

Congrats to Lewis. Congrats to Kimi for 2nd possition in the championship and finally, congrats to Vettel for his 4th WDC and Cows for just another double title season.

To Ferrari: WAKE UP!

[rico]

Sack 'em all baby

[anuragiyer8989]

I'm afraid this forum is gonna be a glum one for a month now! :-( disappointed for more than 5 years now.

[Losticus]

Yep, only people from MGP (BrawnGP) and RBR deserve to stay at their team.

It depends of the goals you have. I believe Ferrai's goal is to be WCC or WDC, and its obvious it hasn't happen for six years in a row, so somebody must be doing his job not exactly right.

[Forzi]

Not much optimism for the break. Fernando thanks to the track characteristics save the 5th place like in quali and Felipe dropped one down to 8th. We're the 4th car.

[SinanOzerS]

Extraordinary performance by Ferrari.

[REDARMYSOJA]

A race to forget.

[vagos]

Disappointing race :(

[FerrariF60]

A race to forget.

i'm gonna have to go a bit further ( i know it could be early)and say a SEASON TO FORGET!!!!

[Hornet]

Well, that's the end of the first part of 2013 season. I'm glad Alonso could hold off Groj till the very end. Unfortunately our race performance is disappointing. We have to progress leaps and bounds in this 1 month if we wish to keep the title hopes alive.

Congrats to Lewis. He drove a perfect race, well deserved win

[Bubbles]

Damn it. When the year began, I was optimistic about our chances because of the stable regulations. I thought that all the aero tricks will be known to that SOB doing the design and he'll produce a winning machine. But no, it seems he got it wrong even when nobody came up with anything new.

Utter catastrophe. More than a train-wreck.

I read somewhere that Alonso's manager was seen in the Red Bull motorhome talking to Horner. I hope it happens.

EDIT: Alonso's results in the last 4 races: 2, 3, 4, 5. In this way, we'll be out of the points in five races. Raikkonen: 9, 5, 2, 2. The team with no money is mopping the floor with Ferrari.

[Kyss4k]

On the possitive note... Our quali pace was better then our race pace :haha::doh

[Alonso14]

31.4 seconds off the lead for Fernando and he didn't put a foot wrong during the whole race. Actually considering that the Mercedes, Lotus and Red Bull were all faster than us it's a miracle we are fifth. Vettel with a damaged front wing doing laps our guys couldn't even dream, how disheartening is that.

[DJTaurus]

So now lets fight back. Come on ferrari bring on the downgrades.

[Uzair Ahmed]

Did alonso even finish?

[M.K]

On the possitive note... Our quali pace was better then our race pace :haha::doh

Finally :-D

[Chicane]

Its all over..plain and simple..
i hope to see alonso move to redbull he deserves to be a champion
for how many years ferrari have failed to make a championship
car maybe they should compete first at gp2 have some
practice first..then just go back to f1 when ready..
its just so disgusting..

[fronaldo]

good job Ferrari

[theforce]

ohhhh boy! this season just took another sharp turn...away from us. Come'on Ferrari :roll

[71dino]

I hope that we can somehow figure a way to make our car bit more competitive... Fernando got all he could out of the car but even his magic cant create pace. summer break is here, maybe when they get the cars home they can try to figure out why Ferrari is so slow.

[Aruba]

Mehhhh.. Dissapointed once again. Sad

[Alessandra]

I've grown used to us being beaten by 2 RBRs, attributed to an aerodynamics genius.
But today we're beaten by a Lotus ( could have been both if one hadn't had a drive through) and a Merc and Massa by a McLaren too.

And the reason is.........?

[theforce]

Its all over..plain and simple..
i hope to see alonso move to redbull he deserves to be a champion
for how many years ferrari have failed to make a championship
car maybe they should compete first at gp2 have some
practice first..then just go back to f1 when ready..
its just so disgusting..

You're language is disgusting...do you know the meaning of 'Ferrari'?

[DJTaurus]

At least hamster is not over-react like cheering heidi when he wins.

[M.K]

I have always said it much easier to fix fast car than make average car fast.

[Ste]

There goes the Championship. Unless something drastic happens.

[Bubbles]

You're language is disgusting...do you know the meaning of 'Ferrari'?

At the moment, Ferrari means FAIL. Unfortunately.

[Kyss4k]

I hope that we can somehow figure a way to make our car bit more competitive... Fernando got all he could out of the car but even his magic cant create pace. summer break is here, maybe when they get the cars home they can try to figure out why Ferrari is so slow.

Bit is sadly no longer enough, We need a lot.

[The Architect]

That was yet another embarrassing performance. They must be having a laugh if they think they're going to win the title with displays like that. The technical department has been nowhere near for a number of years and I don't see much room for optimism.

[Chicane]

Yeah..i know and this is not ferrari..sad to say

[F2008]

After Barcelona I thought this would be Alonso's year but now it's all over.

[KurtC]

Its all over..plain and simple..
i hope to see alonso move to redbull he deserves to be a champion
for how many years ferrari have failed to make a championship
car maybe they should compete first at gp2 have some
practice first..then just go back to f1 when ready..
its just so disgusting..

keep dreaming RB will never get Alonso, they have Vettel and they consider him better ... if alonso feels he waste time in this great team, then he can go , there's many talented drivers that can help Ferrari develope a car and get a WCC and WDC for him..

[71dino]

I know... its getting old.

[wacc]

Last year's repeat.
Same winner and runner up, Fernando 5th and Felipe one place higher this year...

[tifosi1993]

So "The tyre eater" Mercedes wins the hottest race of the calender, Red bull and Lotus improving race by race.....it seems everyone moves forward except us.

We are just gonna keep calm.

[NickEice]

We are a good 0.8-1.0 seconds off the pace... Fernando can get you 0.4 or so. Not a full second though sadly.

[red power]

There's only one word for our team pathetic. Not much else to say. A great driver in Alonso given 2nd rate machinery, wake up Ferrari. How many more years of this crap do we have to put up with.:furious

[REDARMYSOJA]

Its all over..plain and simple..
i hope to see alonso move to redbull he deserves to be a champion
for how many years ferrari have failed to make a championship
car maybe they should compete first at gp2 have some
practice first..then just go back to f1 when ready..
its just so disgusting..

Not as disgusting as that post.

[anuragiyer8989]

They should really get Kimi into the fools side! And then Kimi will take care of the rest! Internal damage :-)

[Golfsmith]

Look like the wrong people left Ferrari,they have to think about another year,Alonso falling back in the championchip,clearly have lost there eye on perfecting the car.

Was watching the 3rd practice session live yesterday and the Ferrari team was more than half the session in the pits,why,not that they are the fastest car on track.

Don't know what to think about this team any more they don't have the talent to build a good car for Alonso/Massa.

If they don't wake up McLaren will pass them, then we will be the 5th fastest team.

[wacc]

On the possitive note... Our quali pace was better then our race pace :haha::doh

That is not funny, it is possible they ruined race pace by improving Q pace.

[Kyss4k]

So "The tyre eater" Mercedes wins the hottest race of the calender, Red bull and Lotus improving race by race.....it seems everyone moves forward except us.

We are just gonna keep calm.

Yeah, Mercedes's development pace is insane. So is ours :-??

[NickEice]

Let's hire Ross again after he leaves Mercedes

[Kyss4k]

That is not funny, it is possible they ruined race pace by improving Q pace.

It wasn't ment to be funny. It's just comical... and tragic.

[Bubbles]

That is not funny, it is possible they ruined race pace by improving Q pace.

I am willing to bet real money that in Adrian Newey's vocabulary there is no "qualy pace" or "race pace", just "pace" or "speed".

[Nero Horse]

Its all over..plain and simple..
i hope to see alonso move to redbull he deserves to be a champion
for how many years ferrari have failed to make a championship
car maybe they should compete first at gp2 have some
practice first..then just go back to f1 when ready..
its just so disgusting..

The only thing disgusting here is your comment! :-??

[Chicane]

Reality hurts another epic fail..plain and simple..

[R Ginart]

Ferrari from disappointing to embarassing! A 4th place F1 team now behind: RB, Merc, and Lotus. Lets hear what the teams has to say now. "We extracted the maximum out of the car" ???

[mirafiori]

Hamilton on team radio thanked the team for all the hard work, he never mentioned the secret CHEATING tyre test. Again on the grid today Charlie Bernie and Hembury whispering to each other, sorry guys this is not the way to run a professional sport.

[SinanOzerS]

Domenicali's first reaction afters seeing the 2014 car, should be 'Wow'.

[Kyss4k]

Look like the wrong people left Ferrari,they have to think about another year,Alonso falling back in the championchip,clearly have lost there eye on perfecting the car.

Was watching the 3rd practice session live yesterday and the Ferrari team was more than half the session in the pits,why,not that they are the fastest car on track.

Don't know what to think about this team any more they don't have the talent to build a good car for Alonso/Massa.

If they don't wake up McLaren will pass them, then we will be the 5th fastest team.

Yep, this plays on my nerves as well. They keep screaming how more testing is needed, but then they aren't interested to even go out when they can in practice.

[NickEice]

Domenicali's first reaction afters seeing the 2014 car, should be 'Wow'.

And he should be saying Wow from his couch at home.