Indian GP 2013 : Race

[Katu]

Less than hour to go, so let's go
:ferrarifl

[F2002]

Here's hoping that the bulls will clash and crash, and that a prancing horse takes the honours.

[Kingdom Hearts]

:ferrarifl:pass

Fernando will need a lot of luck and driving better than ever, Felipe should have an easier race on paper. Let's hope a good start and clean first lap.

[Hornet]

Good day everyone... :wave

A small drama before the race :-P


Pirelli has asked Formula 1 teams to limit running on the tyres in Sunday's Indian Grand Prix on safety grounds. Teams have been asked not to use the 'soft' tyre for more than 15 laps and the 'medium' for no more than 35 laps.

Governing body the FIA is refusing to order the teams to follow the advice. But if any teams goes beyond the limit and hit problems they could be brought before the stewards and asked why they ran their cars in a dangerous configuration.

It is the latest in a series of controversies to hit Pirelli this season that have tested the patience of teams and senior F1 figures.
Full article:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24690717

[Katu]

Pirelli is more than joke now, didn't they change the tyres for safety concerns already this season?

[Golfsmith]

Pirelli can't make copettitive tyres for F1,need to send them home and get another manufacturer to supply tyres.

[Kristof_F40]

Look, what Pirelli is saying, I don't see the problem, who is going to use the soft longer than 15 laps, it's foolish considerring the lap times. If you do a 10 lap stint on softs, that leaves 50 laps, so 2 times 25 laps, way under 35... don't think someone is going to do a one stopper

[Kristof_F40]

I have been thinking all morning (for me) about strategy.. can't figure it out.. don't see why there should be a big difference, unless a lot of traffic (wil depend on the P10-15 starters (medium or soft to start on) and safety car..

EDIT: or first stint will be very important, we don't need to fight the guys on the softs, but need to try to push them, so they can't extend their stint, and also, hoping the gap at the moment of their first stop isn't that big.. than, we have clean air and we need to do a good pace.. depending on what the others do we will need to see when we pit and which tyre..

For Felipe, he needs to be on full full attack in the first lap, good start take Mark, attack the Merc, full attack, than pit early, trying an undercut, not like what we have been doing with Fer the last races (staying out longer and loosing time), if this works out perhaps the Merc loose time behind Felipe, which is good for Fernando.. I don't thik we can fight the Mercs on the same strategy

[fratelliferrari]

Forza Ferrari :ferrarifl

[Alessandra]

I hope the entire Ferrari team ( including the girls & boys in back at the factory) has something to smile about at the end of the race.
:-bounce:pass:ferrarifl:ferrarifl

[Kyss4k]

Eddie Jordan running for his life :-D

[tifosi1993]

Main goal for today's race is to score more points than Mercedes (& Lotus).

FORZA FERRARI

:ferrarifl

[Hornet]

Best of luck everyone. Hopefully things will work out to our advantage

[stefa]

Main goal for today's race is to score more points than Mercedes (& Lotus).

FORZA FERRARI

:ferrarifl

Exactly! Anything on top of that is just a bonus!

[Kyss4k]

:ferrarifl

[Paulo Goncalves]

Overtake two positions at least in start good race guys


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[wacc]

Good luck F+F+F!

:ferrarifl

[stefa]

I just hope NH in Sauber won't ruin FA race strategy

[wacc]

I just hope NH in Sauber won't ruin FA race strategy

If he does, it is just a Ferrari's mistake.

[stefa]

If he does, it is just a Ferrari's mistake.

Yes, he has nothing to do with that (NH). He is driving for Sauber and himself

[stefa]

OK. Good luck!

[Katu]

let's hope for good clean start for ours

[Scuderia85]

forza ferrari

[vcs316]

Kimi reminded to "be careful with the left clutch paddle position"

[Kyss4k]

Alonso minus FW

[stefa]

Damn

[wacc]

And the strategy is away...

[wacc]

Felipe... Great first lap

[stefa]

so much of strategy

[vcs316]

Massaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Kyss4k]

That's the strategy for you...

[stefa]

2.5 sec in just one lap!!!!!

[pluto]

thats what happens when you pick retard strategies and start from mid pack. Nice work ferrari, Alonso's race over.

[fratelliferrari]

Grande Felipe!

[aroutis]

Isn't it just a bit too early to call it quits ?

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[vcs316]

Vettel gonna pit

[tifosi1993]

Go Felipe

[stefa]

This is just charade with tires

[stefa]

Great 20th....

[Kyss4k]

Great job... look at Felipe, we could have been 1,2 now with a strategy that was actually smart.

[vcs316]

Kimi's puncture, "Looks OK, at the moment"

[theforce]

Going back to sleep now...

[wacc]

Now all it remains is a hope Felipe can get to the podium.

[vcs316]

Pic reported his front wing was OK, but "somebody touched at the rear"

[pluto]

god webber is useless. just clumsy can never get a decent start and hits everyone. useless.

[vcs316]

Massa went against advised Ferrari strategy

Oct.27 (GMM/Inautonews.com) Felipe Massa has revealed he passed over Ferrari’s advice in devising his race strategy for the Indian grand prix.
The Brazilian, who is leaving the Italian team after an eight-year career in red, said his engineers wanted him to qualify on the longer-lasting, harder tyres.
“I made a different decision to them,” Massa is quoted by Brazil’s Totalrace.
“At the Nurburgring I did what the engineers said and it didn’t work, so I took a different decision this time.”
The strategy, with Massa on the fast-wearing soft tyres, is the same as pole sitter Sebastian Vettel’s, who would like to wrap up his title on Sunday with a win.
But Mark Webber, in the sister Red Bull, thinks qualifying on the harder tyres was actually a wiser choice.
“We’re in a good position to capitalise,” said the Australian.
Vettel commented: “What turns out to be the right strategy, we’ll find out in the race.”
In the same car as Massa, Ferrari’s Alonso is three places behind the Brazilian on the grid. But the Spaniard said he was unwilling to qualify on the soft tyre.
“I don’t want to be always critical of the tyres,” he is quoted by Italy’s Autosprint, “but these (soft) tyres are not good.
“It’s a fact. It’s random. Yesterday on a set of softs I did 16 laps with good times.
“Today I could only do three until they disintegrated,” he was quoted after qualifying by Spain’s Marca.
“So the race will depend on the tyres, because no two sets are alike.”
Alonso admitted that, if a “normal” race takes place on Sunday, Vettel will easily be crowned world champion.
A great debate is raging at the moment about whether the German, to probably be a quadruple world champion before the Indian sun sets, can now lay claim to F1 ‘greatness’.
“No, I don’t think he’s on another level (to other good F1 drivers),” said Lotus’ Romain Grosjean.
“I think he’s doing a very good job and has a very good car, and the combination of the two is very competitive.
“They (Red Bull) have a very good team, a very good driver and a great car,” he is quoted by Marca.

[vcs316]

"OK, Lewis, all tyres are hot, especially the rear" so told to move brake balance forwards

[vcs316]

Hulk, "tyres ok, so far". Told to use KERS recovery map 7, and move brake balance forwards 3 clicks

[stefa]

more problems for FA

[Kyss4k]

Massa will keep the lead after he pits. Wonderful strategy, he alone is smarter then strategists in Ferrari.

[vcs316]

Alonso, "I think I damaged something else in the car...because the steering heavy in the right hand corner"

[stefa]

Massa will keep the lead after he pits. Wonderful strategy, he alone is smarter then strategists in Ferrari.

He will not! He is already slower than MW on WHITE

[Kyss4k]

He will not! He is already slower than MW on WHITE

I forgot about him. I was looking just at Vettel.

[SinanOzerS]

Just do another podium on Ferrari Felipe.

[vcs316]

Stella, "OK, for sure we touched the wheel, so there may be something strange, but for the moment, let's see what we can do"

[tifosi1993]

Should pit Felipe now

[stefa]

From now on everything goes MW way

[vcs316]

Hulk, "balance is understeery at the moment...I think we have a DDS error again, the downshifts not smooth, low speed"

[Kyss4k]

Ferrari should seriously stop overthinking something which is actually really simple thing.

[vcs316]

Rosberg told to "you will need to get past" the cars in front on used Primes, but still "look after the tyres"


Rosberg in Torque map 2, Diff Entry map 5

[vcs316]

To Webber, "Press Reverse once...think about brake balance rearwards for turn 16 only"

[vcs316]

Hulk told to decrease the KERS recovery map to increase stability under braking
Hulk, "Copy, thank you"

[Katu]

From now on everything goes MW way

rather MW than vettel

[stefa]

this is going ot be one long day in the office for FA

[vcs316]

Rosberg's tyre temps

Front Left: "Good"
Front Right:"On the limit"
Rears: 116.0°

[stefa]

and SV is just overtaking the competition just like they are trucks

[vcs316]

"OK, Sebastian, remember, you're not racing the leaders anymore"

[vcs316]

Rosberg told to "close the gap up to Massa" and Rear tyre temps are "stable"

[Greig]

I see the strategy armchair experts are out LOL, the strategy does not work when you have to stop for a broken wing, but that is obvious I guess.

[theforce]

WHY ARE ALL THE CAMERAS FIXED ON SEB'S CAR??? There are plenty of other cars racing as well:furious

[blaney1977]

Vettel will win this

[vcs316]

Sutil reports the tyres are " holding up" and the balance is "going well"


"OK, Lewis, do what you can to protect the tyres, Sector 2 for 2 laps"

[Greig]

WHY ARE ALL THE CAMERAS FIXED ON SEB'S CAR??? There are plenty of other cars racing as well:furious

Probably cause he is going to win the title.

[rico]

well i guess bernie is happy with ricciardo and the toro rosso's :thumb

[stefa]

I see the strategy armchair experts are out LOL, the strategy does not work when you have to stop for a broken wing, but that is obvious I guess.

Risk of front wing damage is getting lower when one is starting further way up from the grid....

[blaney1977]

That vettel/ red bull package is so strong.

[Greig]

Risk of front wing damage is getting lower when one is starting further way up from the grid....

No it's just the same.

[Kyss4k]

I see the strategy armchair experts are out LOL, the strategy does not work when you have to stop for a broken wing, but that is obvious I guess.

The reason for the FW damage is the ridiculous strategy. Alonso could have started from second place, out of any danger. But no, let's just decide that we will start in the middle of the pack with 50/50 chance we will come out of it fine. To throw away the quali speed we had was just nonsense, whatever you say and whatever you call me.

[stefa]

to edit my earlier post, this is going to be SV win!

[Kyss4k]

No it's just the same.

:-E

[Katu]

how button fell behind chilton?

[stefa]

No it's just the same.

OK... As you say....

[Greig]

The reason for the FW damage is the ridiculous strategy. Alonso could have started from second place, out of any danger. But no, let's just decide that we will start in the middle of the pack with 50/50 chance we will come out of it fine. To throw away the quali speed we had was just nonsense, whatever you say and whatever you call me.

No it's not due to the strategy, Malaysia P3 front win damage at turn 1 ring any bells? There is the same chance of damage starting 2nd and there is 8th no idea why you think otherwise?

[vcs316]

Massa told to release KERS on the exit of T16 " for maximum 2 lights, remember don't save too many"

[vcs316]

Stella, "Webber, Perez leading, I will update you on the front straight"

[Greig]

OK... As you say....

Explain how it's more risk? Malaysia Alonso was P3 and done his front wing, you still have a car in front and behind if you are not 1st. Not hard to understand.

[Rob]

Risk of front wing damage is getting lower when one is starting further way up from the grid....

could still even loose wing starting at front. lewis nearly lost his wing from vettel.

[stefa]

No it's not due to the strategy, Malaysia P3 front win damage at turn 1 ring any bells? There is the same chance of damage starting 2nd and there is 8th no idea why you think otherwise?

If I remember correctly that was FA driving error.

[vcs316]

Alonso informed Esteban has a drive-through and "may end up close to us" coming out

[Kyss4k]

No it's not due to the strategy, Malaysia P3 front win damage at turn 1 ring any bells? There is the same chance of damage starting 2nd and there is 8th no idea why you think otherwise?

There is not the same chance... starting from 2nd you have just 1 car ahead of you with a possibility to have none by the first turn. Starting from 8th you have cars all over you. There is nothing difficult about it.

[Ste]

I find that comment from Massa a bit disrespectful towards the team and his mechanics to be honest. Especially after we kept re-signing him despite being poor for the last three seasons. He's lucky he wasn't at a different top team because they wouldn't have had such loyalty towards him when he wasn't performing.

Maybe his team should give him no strategy advice and see how far that gets him. Getting bitter, just like Rubens, which is a shame.

[Greig]

If I remember correctly that was FA driving error.

And? so the risk is still the same no matter where you start, only pole lessens the risk.

[vcs316]

Lewis has been maintaining his Traction Matrix at 1000 and all tyre temps look good

[SinanOzerS]

Just look at Alonso's steering wheel while he's turning to second to last corner.

[Greig]

There is not the same chance... starting from 2nd you have just 1 car ahead of you with a possibility to have none by the first turn. Starting from 8th you have cars all over you. There is nothing difficult about it.

LOL yeah we see loads of accidents from 3rd down don't we? Oh wait no. So where is the extra risk?

[vcs316]

Rocky,"OK, there's traffic ahead of Perez, Pic, he should get blues"

[Greig]

I find that comment from Massa a bit disrespectful towards the team and his mechanics to be honest. Especially after we kept re-signing him despite being poor for the last three seasons. He's lucky he wasn't at a different top team because they wouldn't have had such loyalty towards him when he wasn't performing.

Maybe his team should give him no strategy advice and see how far that gets him. Getting bitter, just like Rubens, which is a shame.

?

[Kyss4k]

And Greig, do you understand the meaing of the word "chance"? Even when the chance is small (starting from front) damage can happen.

[Katu]

I find that comment from Massa a bit disrespectful towards the team and his mechanics to be honest. Especially after we kept re-signing him despite being poor for the last three seasons. He's lucky he wasn't at a different top team because they wouldn't have had such loyalty towards him when he wasn't performing.

Maybe his team should give him no strategy advice and see how far that gets him. Getting bitter, just like Rubens, which is a shame.

i agree with you

[Greig]

And Greig, do you understand the meaing of the word "chance"? Even when the chance is small (starting from front) damage can happen.

There is the same chance it happens no matter where you start, do you understand that? It's not the strategy fault that Alonso damaged his wing no matter how much you wish to think so.

[Ste]

?

Oct.27 (GMM/Inautonews.com) Felipe Massa has revealed he passed over Ferrari’s advice in devising his race strategy for the Indian grand prix.
The Brazilian, who is leaving the Italian team after an eight-year career in red, said his engineers wanted him to qualify on the longer-lasting, harder tyres.
“I made a different decision to them,” Massa is quoted by Brazil’s Totalrace.
“At the Nurburgring I did what the engineers said and it didn’t work, so I took a different decision this time.”

[Kyss4k]

LOL yeah we see loads of accidents from 3rd down don't we? Oh wait no. So where is the extra risk?

Yoy clearly don't want to understand... I would think anyone with an education would understand the probabilities. I guess I was mistaken.

[stefa]

And? so the risk is still the same no matter where you start, only pole lessens the risk.

Let's agree we disagree?

[Rob]

And Greig, do you understand the meaing of the word "chance"? Even when the chance is small (starting from front) damage can happen.

same as we had a chance on different tyre strategy.

[Greig]

Let's agree we disagree?

Be as well as you think starting 2nd or 3rd means you can't have an accident.....

[Kyss4k]

There is the same chance it happens no matter where you start, do you understand that? It's not the strategy fault that Alonso damaged his wing no matter how much you wish to think so.

How is the chance the same?! Please tell me, I am really curious to hear how you redefined the math.

[wacc]

Fernando would be already in front of Gutierez if not for the lapped Caterham.

[Greig]

Yoy clearly don't want to understand... I would think anyone with an education would understand the probabilities. I guess I was mistaken.

Go on then, explain them, with some facts.

You can have an accident from p1 to p22, that is the fact.

[Kyss4k]

same as we had a chance on different tyre strategy.

We would be out the mess which happens at the start. That's the thing.

[vcs316]

Rosberg informed the current set of tyres appears to have low degradation and that "Massa is slow"

[vcs316]

Webber, "How we going, mate, how we going on?"
Re:"OK, Engine 24, Engine 24"

[Kyss4k]

Go on then, explain them, with some facts.

You can have an accident from p1 to p22, that is the fact.

You can! And here comes the word "chance". Read my posts carefully please.

[vcs316]

Hulk feels the mechanical balance is too far forwards with "the rear is too loose"

[Greig]

How is the chance the same?! Please tell me, I am really curious to hear how you redefined the math.

Go on then tell me the maths.

Start 1 make a good start you only have to worry behind
Start anywhere else you have to worry ahead and behind

Only pole lessens the risk, 2nd down is the same risk of incident, not hard to understand.

[wacc]

Felipe now slower than Mercs. It does not look good for the podium.

[Greig]

You can! And here comes the word "chance". Read my posts carefully please.

So the strategy done nothing to change the chance of an incident, so stop whining about it already and making yourself look silly.

[stefa]

Be as well as you think starting 2nd or 3rd means you can't have an accident.....

There is always a risk of accident. You can walk on sideways and there is a chance of meteor to hit you. But how big (small) chances are for that?

[Greig]

There is always a risk of accident. You can walk on sideways and there is a chance of meteor to hit you. But how big (small) chances are for that?

Very good analogy that. Best go lie down.

[rico]

they are just showing the rb's. There is a fight between massa and rosberg wake up director

[Greig]

Cmon Felipe

[Kyss4k]

Go on then tell me the maths.

Start 1 make a good start you only have to worry behind
Start anywhere else you have to worry ahead and behind

Only pole lessens the risk, 2nd down is the same risk of incident, not hard to understand.

I already did. You just don't read.

And your view is so simplistic it is unbelievable.
If you start 2nd you have just 1 car ahead of you and possibily no car, if you start well. If you start 8th you have cars all over you. The difference is massive.

[vcs316]

Kimi, "I want up one and a half on front wing" for the stop


Hulk in KERS recovery map 8, and moved brake balance forwards 3 clicks


Smedley , "Press the ED button and let's get close to Sutil, see if we can pass him"

[eugene22n]

These races are so boring. This racing for second place situation is not what Ferrari is about. It's once thing to have a long shot at winning, but when there is no chance and Vettel runs over 1 seconds faster than everybody else its just a snooze fest.

Same story for 3 year ... wind tunnel.

[vcs316]

To Esteban, "Remember, Lotus has the hard limiter...so keep pushing"

[wacc]

Go on then tell me the maths.

Start 1 make a good start you only have to worry behind
Start anywhere else you have to worry ahead and behind

Only pole lessens the risk, 2nd down is the same risk of incident, not hard to understand.

There are more cars around you, if you start in the middle of the pack. Simple as that. If you want i can draw you a sketch

[Kyss4k]

So the strategy done nothing to change the chance of an incident, so stop whining about it already and making yourself look silly.

What? What? What? You just don't understand the way probabily works mate, sorry.

[rico]

Director is an idiot... :lou

[Greig]

I already did. You just don't read.

And your view is so simplistic it is unbelievable.
If you start 2nd you have just 1 car ahead of you and possibily no car, if you start well. If you start 8th you have cars all over you. The difference is massive.

LOL your the one with the simplistic view blaming strategy for a accident. Go and watch the race rather than being stupid.

[Greig]

What? What? What? You just don't understand the way probabily works mate, sorry.

You really have no idea what you are talking about.

[vcs316]

Smedley, "Press the ED button, press the ED button, the ED button, press it"

[stefa]

Very good analogy that. Best go lie down.

you are unbelievable.... Really.... OK... Let it be you way...

[Greig]

you are unbelievable.... Really.... OK... Let it be you way...

You are the one posting ridiculous analogy's.

[vcs316]

Smedley, "Safety Car window is open, Safety Car window is open, you pulled away 2 tenths on that lap"

[Kyss4k]

LOL your the one with the simplistic view blaming strategy for a accident. Go and watch the race rather than being stupid.

I am able to do both. But thanks for telling me what to do. It's really appreciated... As you can see, I am not the only one here telling you you are not right.

And what is simplistic behind saying that the chance you will have an accident is higher when you start in the middle of the field instead of from the fist row?

[tifosi1993]

Should pit Alonso now, no point stuck behind Di Resta.

[vcs316]

Kimi, "Now my tyres not very good shape, I think we should try something, I cannot get past, I lost the the brakes"

[stefa]

You are the one posting ridiculous analogy's.

:-ZZ

[Greig]

I am able to do both. But thanks for telling me what to do. It's really appreciated... As you can see, I am not the only one here telling you you are not right.

And what is simplistic behind saying that the chance you will have an accident is higher when you start in the middle of the field instead of from the fist row?

LOL are you a gang? You can both cling to your whines if you want still does not make you right no matter if 10 people tell you it.

The chance of accident is the same no matter where you start other than pole, only pole lessens the risk. If you can't see that then sorry for you, even the drivers will tell you that.

[SinanOzerS]

Alonso on softs.

[Greig]

:-ZZ

Yeah go lie down

[Katu]

rosberg jumped massa with pits

[vcs316]

Before Massa boxed, he reported he could not "go quicker" and was limited by front grip


To Rosberg, "Ok, so you've jumped Massa"

[Greig]

Well done Fernando :-D

[stefa]

any way SV and MW showed and proved that starting on WHITE was WRONG!!!!

[Kyss4k]

You really have no idea what you are talking about.

Oh I do. It looks like it's you who has no clue about it. I know I shouldn't talk to you like that, but as you keep saying thing which are not right (that's not my oppinion, that's a fact) and then telling me I have no idea about what I am talking about... well let's say I hope you are joking.

[Greig]

any way SV and MW showed and proved that starting on WHITE was WRONG!!!!

Not really, they will run 1-2.

[vcs316]

To GRO, "OK, both Hamilton and Massa will go to the end, so you're racing them now"

[Greig]

Oh I do. It looks like it's you who has no clue about it. I know I shouldn't talk to you like that, but as you keep saying thing which are not right (that's not my oppinion, that's a fact) and then telling me I have no idea about what I am talking about... well let's say I hope you are joking.

No you really do not. You have no clue or idea and I am not joking.

[Kyss4k]

LOL are you a gang? You can both cling to your whines if you want still does not make you right no matter if 10 people tell you it.

The chance of accident is the same no matter where you start other than pole, only pole lessens the risk. If you can't see that then sorry for you, even the drivers will tell you that.

I am right, you are wrong. Simple as that. You may be owner of this site, but that doesn't make everything you say the truth. And you are not right on what you are telling us here.

[vcs316]

"Sebastian, you'll need your tyres for the whole stint, not now"

[stefa]

Not really, they will run 1-2.

Yes they will, for that you are right, but MW started on WHITE with objective to overtake SV and EVENTUALLY clinch a win! And he will not, and there is where youa re wrong!

[vcs316]

"OK, Lewis push for one more lap, you'll be racing Perez, he's in the box now"

[Kyss4k]

No you really do not. You have no clue or idea and I am not joking.

So you mean it? You really think that starting from 2nd has the same probability of an accident as starting down from 8th? I thought you were smarter than that. :-s

[Rob]

any way SV and MW showed and proved that starting on WHITE was WRONG!!!!

sorry how? mark started same tyre Fernando did.

[fratelliferrari]

Boring race :-ZZ

[tifosi1993]

Alonso pits for new Mediums.

[F2008]

any way SV and MW showed and proved that starting on WHITE was WRONG!!!!

Not much difference between both strategies. Webber did a poor start and after 5 years you should know that Vettel is genuinely the better driver.

[Greig]

So you mean it? You really think that starting from 2nd has the same probability of an accident as starting down from 8th? I thought you were smarter than that. :-s

Clearly I am smarter than you, only pole lessens the risk. Starting 2nd or 8th you still have the same number of cars around you.

[stefa]

sorry how? mark started same tyre Fernando did.

I have explained. Read above post.

[Greig]

Yes they will, for that you are right, but MW started on WHITE with objective to overtake SV and EVENTUALLY clinch a win! And he will not, and there is where youa re wrong!

So you think strategy can change Webber not being as good as Vettel? good one.

[Kyss4k]

Not much difference between both strategies. Webber did a poor start and after 5 years you should know that Vettel is genuinely the better driver.

Poor start is kinda guaranteed when starting on the slower tyre. You just don't have the grip. So that is the part of the strategy I guess.

[radosav]

So,according to Sky reporters , Alonso has to push hard right now if he wants to win WDC ! What a idiots!

[Rob]

So you mean it? You really think that starting from 2nd has the same probability of an accident as starting down from 8th? I thought you were smarter than that. :-s

yeah does could get chopped by pole sitter loose endplate or have someone behind dive up inside and take oir front wing off or even rear.

[vcs316]

Kimi informed, "Your threat is Rosberg who has completed his stop"

[stefa]

So you think strategy can change Webber not being as good as Vettel? good one.

This is nothing to do with driver quallity

[wacc]

Clearly I am smarter than you, only pole lessens the risk. Starting 2nd or 8th you still have the same number of cars around you.

No way that is true. I want to watch now but we can discuss it later.

[ntukza]

'Rosberg is told: “We think these tyres have very little degradation on them. We also think Massa is very slow.”' --Autosport commentry

Eish

[Greig]

This is nothing to do with driver quallity

LOL what?

[stefa]

Poor start is kinda guaranteed when starting on the slower tyre. You just don't have the grip. So that is the part of the strategy I guess.

Exactly. Wasn't that was plan for FA? #F2008

[Greig]

No way that is true. I want to watch now but we can discuss it later.

Yes it is true.

[vcs316]

To GRO, "No KERS release out of turn 4, no KERS release out of turn 4"
GRO, "OK, OK"

[Greig]

Webber out

[vcs316]

Webber out!!

[stefa]

[QUOTE=Greig;812576]LOL what?[/QUOTE
.........................

[fratelliferrari]

Again Webber, this is so unfair :-s

[wacc]

Webber and his gearbox neverending story

[Greig]

[QUOTE=Greig;812576]LOL what?[/QUOTE
.........................

If you don't want to respond like an adult, then don't reply.

[Kyss4k]

yeah does could get chopped by pole sitter loose endplate or have someone behind dive up inside and take oir front wing off or even rear.

The CHANCE is not the same!!!!! Wake up guys!

[vcs316]

For those of you wondering, Ferrari's ED button is their Overtake button for momentary maximum revs and fuel mix map

[F2008]

Poor start is kinda guaranteed when starting on the slower tyre. You just don't have the grip. So that is the part of the strategy I guess.

Webber makes poor starts on option tyres too.

[tifosi1993]

Always Webber......

[vcs316]

Webber told to stop the car after "losing gearbox sync"

[Greig]

The CHANCE is not the same!!!!! Wake up guys!

Yes it is, although you could tell us why with some facts if you want rather than just saying it's not the same over and over.

[stefa]

[QUOTE=stefa;812582]

If you don't want to respond like an adult, then don't reply.

That was adult from my side I don't won't to end up in endless replying with you!

[ntukza]

'Raikkonen reports: “My tyres are in very good shape. But I can’t get past people.”' --Autosport commentry

:-)

[Katu]

i'm sure vettel was aware...

[Golfsmith]

Webers kers unit in the gearbox faulire.

[Greig]

[QUOTE=Greig;812585]

That was adult from my side I don't won't to end up in endless replying with you!

So you replied to stop endless replying, brilliant :-)

[stefa]

[QUOTE=stefa;812592]

So you replied to stop endless replying, brilliant :-)

And who is acting now childish?

[Greig]

[QUOTE=Greig;812596]

And you is now acting childish?

I am not the one stamping my feet and having a hissy fit because Alonso damaged his wing.

[Rob]

The CHANCE is not the same!!!!! Wake up guys!

sorry if you think your right pm me you cv and i forward it to Pat Fry.

[vcs316]

Smedley, "OK, a tenth faster than Hamilton that lap, push up to Grosjean now"

[Paulo Goncalves]

Mark is full of this cheating, saw that face!?


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[Katu]

webber's smile was almost like - i have so many 'good' words about this car

[vcs316]

To PdiR, "Use the Overtake button, use the Overtake button, Adrian will be given the message"

[Paulo Goncalves]

Hope see that bieber coloured head alternator failure at last corner


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[F2008]

I find that comment from Massa a bit disrespectful towards the team and his mechanics to be honest. Especially after we kept re-signing him despite being poor for the last three seasons. He's lucky he wasn't at a different top team because they wouldn't have had such loyalty towards him when he wasn't performing.

Maybe his team should give him no strategy advice and see how far that gets him. Getting bitter, just like Rubens, which is a shame.

Luckily for you Raikkonen will always be respectful towards the team.

[ntukza]

After last race I rhetorically asked, "Is there no end to Webber's bad luck?" At this race i am catagorically, unequivocally stating, "There is no end to Webber's bad luck!" Shame, this is rediculous (and hilarious)

"Disaster for Webber as he pulls over with a total failure of his car." -- Autosport commentry

[vcs316]

To Pastor, "OK, we're racing Alonso ahead to the end" Pastor, "Copy that"


Rocky, "As usual, concentrate on braking an clean exits"

[scuderia_nano]

So The strategy has failed.

Well. Umm Im not surprised cz when you start 5th 6th 8th You are in danger of being hit/touched/scraped.

Ferrari have been bad in Quali for years now and anyways, Id rather that they try such a radical strategy and fail THAN Qualify 5th and run 3rd or 4th.

Either ways Game's over.

[scuderia_nano]

Look on the bright side.
Alonso scores 0 points here and can Re Use this Helmet next weekend

[Paulo Goncalves]

Lets see Samurai overtake this four punks


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[Greig]

Look on the bright side.
Alonso scores 0 points here and can Re Use this Helmet next weekend

:rotfl

[tifosi1993]

So The strategy has failed.

Well. Umm Im not surprised cz when you start 5th 6th 8th You are in danger of being hit/touched/scraped.

Ferrari have been bad in Quali for years now and anyways, Id rather that they try such a radical strategy and fail THAN Qualify 5th and run 3rd or 4th.

Either ways Game's over.

When you damage your FW at the start, no strategy gonna work.

[vcs316]

Smedley, "Wait around about 5 laps, and then we can attack Grosjean"

[stefa]

SV will overlap FA soon :-(

[vcs316]

"OK, Kimi, need to save fuel without losing pace"

[vcs316]

To Hulk, "Gap to Grosjean is only 10 seconds, if he tries to get through without a stop, we might be there at the end"

[stefa]

DOn't know how FM will do it when RG is constantly faster than FM

[vcs316]

Massa informed Kimi has been told to save fuel and "we think he'll go to the end like Grosjean"

[stefa]

It is so sad to watch FA and FM helpless...

[vcs316]

Rosberg told to not release KERS in T15&16 to be able to "get full boost on the back straight"


"Sebastian, stop using the drinks bottle, please, stop using the drinks bottle"

[Greig]

Alonso must have damage, and he keeps cutting the track.

[vcs316]

Massa informed Kimi is slowing and "should catch him in about 5 laps"

[vcs316]

Rosberg informed "Kimi not a threat" and that Rear tyre temps are "looking a little low"

[Greig]

Kimi the team player.....

[Rob]

Alonso must have damage, and he keeps cutting the track.

think the bang with JB may have done damage to the track rod or steering rack.

kimi what you doing

[Greig]

Well done Felipe :-)

[Rob]

Kimi the team player.....
:rotfl

[Golfsmith]

Go Massa

[vcs316]

"Sebastian, some cars have fitted Options, don't even think about it, we've got enough problems as it is, Ok"

[tifosi1993]

C'mon Felipe

[wacc]

Wonderful racing

[vcs316]

Kimi, "Get out of the******* way!"

Kimi,"Don't ******* shout..." :rotfl

[radosav]

MUTE MUTE MUTE !!!

[stefa]

as they are saying, there is always another year..... And the years go passing by.....

[Greig]

Well done Felipe, good drive.

[ntukza]

Vettel is told: “Remember you’re not racing the leaders anymore.”

'After setting the fastest lap, Vettel is reminded: “You need your tyres for the whole stint”'

'Vettel is told of his last stint: “The rears were quite worn, you need to be aware of that.”'

'Vettel is told: “Stop using the drinks bottle, please.”' -- Autosport commentary

Haha the way Red Bull treat their lead driver like a child. I wonder why :Hmm:-)

[Golfsmith]

as they are saying, there is always another year..... And the years go passing by

As always every year are the next year for Ferrari.

[stefa]

FM drove good race today

[fratelliferrari]

Congratulations to Felipe for a very good race!

[Schumiklub]

Good drive by Felipe, Fernando had really bad luck with the accident, after that it was all lost.

[stefa]

Why not be gentleman and congratulate to SV and Red Bull.

[Greig]

LOL doughnuts

[SinanOzerS]

Just close the television.

[wacc]

Nice result for Felipe. Except the first lap he was on the defensive side for the whole race, he is used to that.
Fernando must be quite frustrated at the moment.

[Rob]

dont care who it is love seeing donuts

[Rishu]

Congratulations Seb & Red Bull. Well done!

[Golfsmith]

How many next years for Ferrari before they want to challenge the other teams.

[stefa]

Congratulations Seb & Red Bull. We'll done!
Really, congratulations! They lifted the benchmark really high...

[Peter De La Mar]

Congratulations Seb and Red Bull.

Deserved champions.

[Ste]

F1 needs more celebrations like that. Just from someone in red.

[ntukza]

Vettel is told: “Remember you’re not racing the leaders anymore.”

'After setting the fastest lap, Vettel is reminded: “You need your tyres for the whole stint”'

'Vettel is told of his last stint: “The rears were quite worn, you need to be aware of that.”'

'Vettel is told: “Stop using the drinks bottle, please.”' -- Autosport commentary

Haha the way Red Bull treat their lead driver like a child. I wonder why :Hmm:-)

' Vettel is admonished for his attempts at setting the fastest lap. He already has a huge lead and is on course for title glory.' - Autosport commentary

[vcs316]

Congrats to Seb & Red Bull.

[Chicane]

Congrats to redbull they deserve it
As for us, another spanking in the face
Another year same results for the nth time
no point in hoping for next year will be better
but will still chear for the prancing horse
forza ferrari!!

[vcs316]

Is Vettel crying?

[tifosi1993]

Brilliant race from Felipe, well done.

And congrats to Seb and RB.

[m schumy]

Well done to Felipe and congrats to Vettel :-)

[Golfsmith]

Really, congratulations! They lifted the benchmark really high

The other teams including Ferrari wont catch them for the near future.

[stefa]

back to the drawing board, and make good one for next year!