Matt Somerfield - Red Bull Mass Damper?

[Jose-Lorca Fan]

Interesting article on Red Bull's Splitter: http://somersf1.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/theorizing-red-bulls-splitterstay.html

[Hornet]

Interesting analysis. We've heard many rumors about potential Red Bull secrets, but this article actually provides a very detailed analysis to back his claim. :Hmm

Hopefully the article will gain attention and we'll here what other experts have to say about it.

[bonzo]

Red Cheaters!! But clever cheaters!

[F2002]

OK, let's say we found 0.500 seconds of their advantage, where are the remaining 0.500 seconds ?

[giodap]

OK, let's say we found 0.500 seconds of their advantage, where are the remaining 0.500 seconds ?

because of the downforce generated from the mass damper, they can run less rear wing so they are quick on the straights too. so i would guess if this is true, setup alone would give them an advantage on the rest of the field:-E

[F2002]

because of the downforce generated from the mass damper, they can run less rear wing so they are quick on the straights too. so i would guess if this is true, setup alone would give them an advantage on the rest of the field:-E

As far as I know, they've only recently been topping straight line speeds. Ferrari and Mercedes have traditionally fared better in this department.

My point is that it doesn't make sense to be looking for areas where RBR has potentially been breaching the rules. Unless a rule comes into force that obliges everybody to use exactly the same car, winning a championship will always involve having that 'unfair' advantage over your rivals, an advantage which will ultimately reflect the creativity and inventiveness of the people who design the car.

It's precisely this 'unfair' advantage that Ferrari hasn't been able to build in the past few years.

[giodap]

As far as I know, they've only recently been topping straight line speeds. Ferrari and Mercedes have traditionally fared better in this department.

My point is that it doesn't make sense to be looking for areas where RBR has potentially been breaching the rules. Unless a rule comes into force that obliges everybody to use exactly the same car, winning a championship will always involve having that 'unfair' advantage over your rivals, an advantage which will ultimately reflect the creativity and inventiveness of the people who design the car.

It's precisely this 'unfair' advantage that Ferrari hasn't been able to build in the past few years.

:thumb

[Hornet]

OK, let's say we found 0.500 seconds of their advantage, where are the remaining 0.500 seconds ?

Red Bull also use their engine mapping to improve traction, and they seem to be able to do it better than other team.

Edit: Forgot to mention the blown diffuser, that too.

[Nova]

Sp what could stop them from using this same idea on next years car?

[F2002]

Red Bull also use their engine mapping to improve traction, and they seem to be able to do it better than other team.

Edit: Forgot to mention the blown diffuser, that too.

Better - that's the magic word mate!

[stefa]

I don't know what to think about this article...
This is motor sport, one can be really creative there. I know there are rules which must be obeyed. On the other hand there are so many gray zones which can be interpreted differently by different people. Ferrari need to read more between the lines in those parts of rules which are more gray.
is not soccer or tennis where rules are pretty simple and straight forward.