If you could introduce a rule into F1.

[FerrariFanBoii]

If you had the option to introduce any rule, whatever it is! (Sensible though) post it, i'm interested to see what your own rules would be!

For me, I thought this was cool! We should have like a "Joker card" every driver gets just one, to use whatever race they wanted, to get double points at the chosen race, so Alonso could use his in Spain, and say Vettel could use his in Abu Dhabi, etc.

Let me know yours! :D

[Bubbles]

Bring back the previous scoring system.

:xmassmile::xmaswink::xmasbiggrin::xmascool::xmast ongue:

[Kiwi Nick]

This is easy...uncomplicated the engine rules. A very simple rule like, "Engines shall run on 100 octane gasoline and have a displacement of 2.5 liters normally aspirated or 1.5 liters turbocharged." To reduce costs, the use of certain very expensive materials like beryllium could be prohibited. Other than that let the manufacturers have at it. Best design wins!

[mirafiori]

If you had the option to introduce any rule, whatever it is! (Sensible though) post it, i'm interested to see what your own rules would be!

For me, I thought this was cool! We should have like a "Joker card" every driver gets just one, to use whatever race they wanted, to get double points at the chosen race, so Alonso could use his in Spain, and say Vettel could use his in Abu Dhabi, etc.

Let me know yours! :D
I have already had that idea using a Joker at the race of your choice on the thread already running. Great minds think alike.:xmassmile:

[wisepie]

This is easy...uncomplicated the engine rules. A very simple rule like, "Engines shall run on 100 octane gasoline and have a displacement of 2.5 liters normally aspirated or 1.5 liters turbocharged." To reduce costs, the use of certain very expensive materials like beryllium could be prohibited. Other than that let the manufacturers have at it. Best design wins!

And uncomplicate the tyre/aero/DRS rules so that teams are not governed by what the FIA think will improve the show. In fact, get back to racing.

[Nero Horse]

I'd simply bring back the uncomplicated rules that were in F1 before the 2004/2005 seasons, together with the old points scoring system (10-6-4-3-2-1) and the free for all one hour qualifying session, without the 3 part shootouts that we have now. V10 or V12 engines back on the cars. Oh and I'd really like to see the DRS gimmick to be completely gone and I also want the tracks to be back the way they used to be, with grass and unforgiving sand-traps around the track, none of those easy "mickey mouse" asphalted run-off areas. That is all for now I think.

[Hornet]

Bring back ground effect, and shift more than 95% of the downforce back to being generated by the floor, this should solve the overtaking issues IMO, where current cars have trouble following another car closely. :xmaswink:

[M.K]

Spa hosts 2 races per season.

[FerrariFanBoii]

I actuyally quite like the new points though, I think going down to 10 is great, unless maybe reducing the amount, but keeping it at 10 places

[Suzie]

My rule would be that no more classic tracks get chucked off the calendar and any that attract a crowd of less than a specified number get dumped... (unless it's Turkey - which can come back).

[JohnDelinger]

teams could use whatever tyres they wanted with any amount of pitstops

[stefa]

Bring back old school racing like it was in 80's and 90's.
Stop imposing silly rules!!!

[Rob]

Get shot of DRS, make overtaking meaningful and exciting.

So what if it takes few laps to make the move, but thats the thrill of it, the build up.

[brembo man]

A year in jail if #1 driver refuses team orders, #2 guy gets $$ bonus out of #1 drivers pay.

[Greig]

Manual gearboxes, qualifying tyres for a 60 minute shoot out.

[Katu]

teams could use whatever tyres they wanted with any amount of pitstops

i like that idea, with unlimited number of tyres for whole weekend and spare cars

[AfterLife]

Okay :munch
1. One bottle of champagne and three glass for each of podium finishers to save costs.
2. No Marble on the grid because they are dangerous.
3. No KERS or ERS or ...RS
4. Only one stop is allowed to save costs of tyre using. Tyres will be suitable to push hard like hell for half of the race.
5. Suffecient Fuel to push hard.
6. Enforcing more restriction to save costs. Apparently something is going to happen http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/111798 and i doubt it.
7. Increasing track testing.
8. Giving more opportunity to young drivers to test.
9. To be continued ...

[WS6TransAm01]

1. Allow engine development
2. Remove the limit on number of engines used per year
3. Each driver gets a chance to slap Vettel. Only one per season, so choose wisely.

[tifosi1993]

1. In season testing

2. No parc ferme rules.

[ManFromMilan]

3. Each driver gets a chance to slap Vettel. Only one per season, so choose wisely.




Unless they win, then it is an extra one free:-D



Ground effect and tyres that could last a whole GP sound great.

[Nero Horse]

1. In season testing

This^^

[Silent Bob]

teams could use whatever tyres they wanted with any amount of pitstops

This. Pick your tires before the race and change them as many times as you need to. And refueling.

[Ken]

I would suggest that rule 1 should be :-

NO MORE RULES

After reverting back to rules as at 2000.

I am losing patience with the FIA and losing interest in F1 every time they keep making rules to "Increase the excitement "

[fratelliferrari]

1. In season testing

:clap

[Rishu]

Refueling

[Katu]

3. Each driver gets a chance to slap Vettel. Only one per season, so choose wisely.

something like slap bet?

[fratelliferrari]

Would be great if we could test at Fiorano 24hrs a day :xmasbiggrin:

[killer]

1 hour qualifying, no restrictions on tyre choice.

[Matt Pratola]

At one race (maybe before summer break) each driver must race using the "complement car" of theirs. For instance, if Alonso is 1st and the grid has 20 cars, he would have to race using the car in 20th position (eg: an HRT), the second place driver would drive the 19th placed car, etc...

[F2002]

I don't think that F1 needs any more rules. F1 needs more freedom.

[FerrariFanBoii]

Any F1 driver who brings a dog to the circuit for the week, gets a slap? :lol

[Katu]

Any F1 driver who brings a dog to the circuit for the week, gets a slap? :lol

no, Roscoe is cute, you cannot slap Lewis for bringing him along

[M.K]

I got another one: Anyone who lies gets banned from sport for life :-D

[Winter]

If I was F1 God I, would undo every rule change what is done after removing refueling, refueling included.

Not a rule, but more sand and grass to off-track areas, drivers sould stay inside the lines!

[Kiwi Nick]

I got another one: Anyone who lies gets banned form sport for life :-D

Kimi might be the only driver on the grid!

[WS6TransAm01]

something like slap bet?

No like something simple. Each driver gets handed a card "Good for One (1) Slap"

At any point during any of the 19 race weekends, the driver may hand that card in to Charlie, at which point Bieber must stand at attention and receive his (her) slap. The slap must be open handed and no aid may be used. This must be televised. A trophy is handed to the driver who provides the best slap during the FIA Awards dinner. Slap quality will be judged on sound, speed, and length of time the driver's hand imprint remains on Vettel's face. If a driver actually knocks Bieber out (rendering him unconscious) that driver win's the trophy automatically.

Nice and simple.

We can bet on the results.

[Senna4Ever]

No like something simple. Each driver gets handed a card "Good for One (1) Slap"

At any point during any of the 19 race weekends, the driver may hand that card in to Charlie, at which point Bieber must stand at attention and receive his (her) slap. The slap must be open handed and no aid may be used. This must be televised. A trophy is handed to the driver who provides the best slap during the FIA Awards dinner. Slap quality will be judged on sound, speed, and length of time the driver's hand imprint remains on Vettel's face. If a driver actually knocks Bieber out (rendering him unconscious) that driver win's the trophy automatically.

Nice and simple.

We can bet on the results.

:clap :haha:
I would support through all instances ...
Do we need to send this rule change request to Saint Nic? (for German/Austria/Italyplease dial: Christkind)

[RedRebel40]

I would bring back the 2000 season technical rules. Bring back the 1000+ hp beasts.

[Nero Horse]

:lol
5568

[FA fan]

Identical spec cars for all the drivers on the grid.

[brembo man]

:lol
5568

Excellent list. I agree with all but #18, I'm totally non violent.

[Winter]

What is that (nr.3) "for sure" thing? Why every driver must say it at every interview, like it would be somekind of bet or something :xmassmile:
Is it some F1 tradition to say so? I noticed that saying during 2012 season and it`s bit annoying for sure :xmasbiggrin:

[Katu]

'for sure' is as annoying as 'to be honest', 'you know' (montoya would have had only slaps during his interviews), 'fantasic' etc

[stefa]

Identical spec cars for all the drivers on the grid.

No!

[stefa]

As I have already said, bring back the racing we used to enjoy back in 80's and 90's!

[Hornet]

As I have already said, bring back the racing we used to enjoy back in 80's and 90's!
That's more than 1 rule change :xmasbiggrin:

The sports have seen too many rule changes, with many different reasons. I don't think the FIA have ever backtrack (as in if something doesn't work, change back to the old rules). So it just gets more complicated all the time as they keep changing.

It's going to be a challenge to bring back close, hard racing, without worrying about tires or engine or fuel

[FranksterGM]

V8, V10 or V12 engines.
No small capacity turbo engines !!!

And of course no Japanese manufacturers.

[FerrariFanBoii]

Every car is the SAME. Therefore all down to the driver, now that'd be true racing. (If we had refueling back, and the tracks were wider that is..)

[wisepie]

:lol
5568

Very clever Nero Horse, makes a lot more sense than what the FIA keep dreaming up!

[Alessandra]

During a race dirvers may only receive 'messages' from their race engineer ( or any other person on the pitwall) once every 10 laps.

This rule may only be broken when a car is dangerous to drive and should be along the lines" Now look what you've done! Pit at once, get out of the car and go to your room".

[Alessandra]

During a race dirvers may only receive 'messages' from their race engineer ( or any other person on the pitwall) once every 10 laps.

This rule may only be broken when a car is dangerous to drive and should be along the lines" Now look what you've done! Pit at once, get out of the car and go to your room".

[brembo man]

During a race dirvers may only receive 'messages' from their race engineer ( or any other person on the pitwall) once every 10 laps.

This rule may only be broken when a car is dangerous to drive and should be along the lines" Now look what you've done! Pit at once, get out of the car and go to your room".

Great!! If only that could be!

[radosav]

At the end of every season two races with only constructor points, with drivers chosen by fans to race with specific team. Driver can't drive for his home team.
Example: Vettel driving Ferrari, Alonso and Hamilton driving Red Bull, etc.
Double constructor points given, so that teams take this seriously.

[stefa]

Every car is the SAME. Therefore all down to the driver, now that'd be true racing. (If we had refueling back, and the tracks were wider that is..)

Than, this won't be Formula 1, and there will be no point for CWC.

[Nova]

If I could make a rule, it would be to dump all of the current rules...:xmassmile::xmaswink::xmasbiggrin::xmascoo l::xmastongue:

[FA fan]

No!

Why not? Wouldn't you like to know which driver is the most talented one? Who really deserves it?
Atleast we won't see so many paid drivers,and the really talented ones are left out,cuz they can't bring money with them!

[Alessandra]

Whilst what I posted @51 was a joke, I do think there are far too many racing communications between engineer and driver.
Car sports are known as motor racing, not motor driving.
Of course these guys are ‘driving’ at 190 m.p.h. in all sorts of weather conditions, surrounded by others (except Vettel) all doing the same thing in more or less the same space, on tracks that are constructed to be challenging in a variety of ways. This is where driving becomes rather more than just that, and the great exponents of the art of motor racing (F1) have additional skills, racing skills.
These skills, it seems to me, are being flattened out by the flow of information from engineers to drivers. It’s not just how much degradation a rival may have on his tyres or when they last pitted that’s passed on, we hear drivers being told when to brake, when to push, when to hold position, when to overtake or not! (except Vettel).
Everyone’s an Alonso now. Peerless racing skills and understanding (see Domenicali’s Tweeted message) lie in the hands of people watching screens and images of little dots moving around a little track, doing the maths regarding fuel and distance and conditions, listening to other engineers’ radio comments to other teams’ drivers telling them what to do next, advising on the state of tyres, the weather and so on and so on.
Räikkönen was extremely rude to his engineer, re. his instructions this year (the poor man was only doing what has become the engineer’s job), but nonetheless probably spoke for several other world-class racers.
Hamilton doesn’t know which way to turn, which is the cooler – give me information, no don’t give me information, oh yes do give me information.

OK, dismounting from my hobby-horse, my ‘rule’ for the year is perhaps a bit of a negative – stop the perpetual stream of racing information between engineer and driver and let them make their own minds’ up once the race has started.
But it ain’t gonna happen, because when drivers have to make their own decisions you might get the wrong outfits winning or losing and that’s not the way to run a business.:xmasrolleyes:

[Nova]

Do away with:
1 tire supplier..:xmaseek:
teams must use 2 compounds of tires per race..:xmaseek:
the mandatory use of a single ecu supplier..:xmaseek:
no testing..:xmasrolleyes:
limited tires per race weekend...:xmasredface:
all cost cutting ideas, because none of them work...:xmastongue:
the drivers number thing..:xmasrolleyes:
the double points at the last race, or any race...:xmaseek:
reinstate refueling..:xmaswink:
make qualifying like it used to be...:topdance
Allow a spare car..:xmastongue:
limited # of engines/trannys per season...:xmaseek:
move away from becoming a spec series..:xmasredface:
Do away with the morons who came up with all of the silly ideas to make F1 more popular
by using the above mentioned silly rules to make F1 more popular.:xmasbiggrin:

[stefa]

Why not? Wouldn't you like to know which driver is the most talented one? Who really deserves it?
Atleast we won't see so many paid drivers,and the really talented ones are left out,cuz they can't bring money with them!

NO! All I do care is Ferrari!

[sachin]

Ferrari always at 1-2...
Others do whatever they want to...:xmasbiggrin:

[Nero Horse]

NO! All I do care is Ferrari!

Well said! :clap

[Alonsomaniac]

Rule nr 1: at the end of every season the FIA and the teams should determine which rule has proven to be useless that year. That rule will then be removed from the book. Not changed or replaced, but removed.

After a few years the rulebook will then be reduced to one page, containing only short and clear rules that have proven to be useful.

[Hornet]

Rule nr 1: at the end of every season the FIA and the teams should determine which rule has proven to be useless that year. That rule will then be removed from the book. Not changed or replaced, but removed.

After a few years the rulebook will then be reduced to one page, containing only short and clear rules that have proven to be useful.

This is exactly the problem with all these rule changes. Things gets worse because they never back out of the rules that didn't work. Instead they just stack more rules on top of it.

[fratelliferrari]

During a race dirvers may only receive 'messages' from their race engineer ( or any other person on the pitwall) once every 10 laps.

This rule may only be broken when a car is dangerous to drive and should be along the lines" Now look what you've done! Pit at once, get out of the car and go to your room".

I hope not! I want to see Rob as Felipe's race engineer next year so we can still enjoy their conversations :xmasbiggrin:

[Alessandra]

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2013/dec/13/cheap-trick-double-points-f1-nerve

Stretching the boundaries of this thread a bit I suppose, but I would recommend this Richard Williams article for its attack on a whole lot of hair-brained, profit-motivated 'rules' that degrade this sport that we all love and support.

@ 64 Fratelliferrari: I have no problem whatsoever with drivers and their race engineers enjoying an amicable relationship, espcially when it ensures the well-being of the driver, mentally or physically. Danger is an integral part of F1 and I imagine most drivers are only too happy know that the person speaking to them has their best interests at heart as another human being, not just the executor of team orders. And that includes the Felipe /Rob partnership.:xmassmile:
I'd just like to see a return to drivers using their instinctive and acquired skills and judgement as racing drivers, which may involve mistakes as well as success. That's what makes it a sport not a business enterprise.
Anyway, read Richard Williams who puts it much more clearly that I can.

[fratelliferrari]

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2013/dec/13/cheap-trick-double-points-f1-nerve

Stretching the boundaries of this thread a bit I suppose, but I would recommend this Richard Williams article for its attack on a whole lot of hair-brained, profit-motivated 'rules' that degrade this sport that we all love and support.

@ 64 Fratelliferrari: I have no problem whatsoever with drivers and their race engineers enjoying an amicable relationship, espcially when it ensures the well-being of the driver, mentally or physically. Danger is an integral part of F1 and I imagine most drivers are only too happy know that the person speaking to them has their best interests at heart as another human being, not just the executor of team orders. And that includes the Felipe /Rob partnership.:xmassmile:
I'd just like to see a return to drivers using their instinctive and acquired skills and judgement as racing drivers, which may involve mistakes as well as success. That's what makes it a sport not a business enterprise.
Anyway, read Richard Williams who puts it much more clearly that I can.

I apologise if I have misread you sorry :lol I get your point but still I can't agree with you :xmastongue:

[fratelliferrari]

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2013/dec/13/cheap-trick-double-points-f1-nerve

Stretching the boundaries of this thread a bit I suppose, but I would recommend this Richard Williams article for its attack on a whole lot of hair-brained, profit-motivated 'rules' that degrade this sport that we all love and support.

@ 64 Fratelliferrari: I have no problem whatsoever with drivers and their race engineers enjoying an amicable relationship, espcially when it ensures the well-being of the driver, mentally or physically. Danger is an integral part of F1 and I imagine most drivers are only too happy know that the person speaking to them has their best interests at heart as another human being, not just the executor of team orders. And that includes the Felipe /Rob partnership.:xmassmile:
I'd just like to see a return to drivers using their instinctive and acquired skills and judgement as racing drivers, which may involve mistakes as well as success. That's what makes it a sport not a business enterprise.
Anyway, read Richard Williams who puts it much more clearly that I can.

I apologise if I have misread you sorry :lol I get your point but still I can't agree with you :xmastongue:

[Nova]

The top 20 moments in sports of 2013, forget where I read it, 1 of the F1 sites I think..
not 1 of the top 20 was Formula 1. Goes to show that the mashing of rules the last few years
havent worked quite as expected.
Truth be told, the 2013 season has been 1 of the most boring I can remember, and I dont say that
because of the RB dominance. Most teams have a period of dominance.
I cant remember a time that I actually didnt care if I missed watching a race.
The new designs will be interesting, new engines, but we still have to race on Pirelli rubber.
And tell me where it will be interesting to watch them race when they start fuel conservation?
Ive been an F1 fan for years, and there have been periods that I didnt care for, but the periods I liked
far outweighed them. Now, Im not so sure.

[FerrariFanBoii]

Can you remember when Bernie said medals would be given to the winner of a race, and who ever won the most races wins the WDC

[fratelliferrari]

Can you remember when Bernie said medals would be given to the winner of a race, and who ever won the most races wins the WDC

Yes I can remember, that was last year right?

[Katu]

Yes I can remember, that was last year right?

2009 it was

[fratelliferrari]

2009 it was

Longer ago then I thought then :lol

[wisepie]

This is exactly the problem with all these rule changes. Things gets worse because they never back out of the rules that didn't work. Instead they just stack more rules on top of it.

Agreed Hornet, and as the Guardian article referred to by Alessandra points out, our sport is being diluted by all these silly tweaks to rules and regulations, where the actual racing is secondary to the commercial demands of a small group of wheeler-dealers. Back to basics is what is needed.

[Rob]

Agreed Hornet, and as the Guardian article referred to by Alessandra points out, our sport is being diluted by all these silly tweaks to rules and regulations, where the actual racing is secondary to the commercial demands of a small group of wheeler-dealers. Back to basics is what is needed.

:clap

[FerrariFanBoii]

What do you guys think of the pole trophy?! Another stupid rule added. Also, what if, we had 3 cars per team? I think that'd cool!

[racingbradley]

I agree with Stefa let's go back to the rules of 1980's & 1990's. :xmasrolleyes::xmasrolleyes:
I am fed up with KERS, DRS, Pirelli's choice of tyres, rules & more rules.................
Come on FIA leave F! alone.:pray

[fratelliferrari]

What do you guys think of the pole trophy?! Another stupid rule added. Also, what if, we had 3 cars per team? I think that'd cool!

3 cars per team would be nice but that trophy is ridiculous! No one will really care about that trophy!

[Nero Horse]

What do you guys think of the pole trophy?! Another stupid rule added. Also, what if, we had 3 cars per team? I think that'd cool!

Fortunately it's not a rule, just a small "add-on" so to speak, and it doesn't really affect F1 in a major way, unlike the crazy double points rule.

Speaking of which, I'm still hoping that the people in the FIA who came up with this "double points" idea will perhaps finally come to their senses and do the right thing by revoking this ridiculous rule before the 2014 season starts. I know it's a long shot but one can only hope. :roll

[mihirshah28186]

The One New rule which I would like to have in formula one is to "to use the DRS once or twice in the whole race", as I feel overtaking another driver should be done on the ability of the driver and not with an aid. The use of DRS makes the race look easy.

[FerrariFanBoii]

The One New rule which I would like to have in formula one is to "to use the DRS once or twice in the whole race", as I feel overtaking another driver should be done on the ability of the driver and not with an aid. The use of DRS makes the race look easy.

That's good! I like that idea!

[Hornet]

The One New rule which I would like to have in formula one is to "to use the DRS once or twice in the whole race", as I feel overtaking another driver should be done on the ability of the driver and not with an aid. The use of DRS makes the race look easy.

DRS is to overcome the deficit from running closely behind another car. This is something a driver's skill cannot overcome, it's a physics issue.

Without DRS, overtaking becomes almost impossible in certain situation.

[The Architect]

Perhaps an 'F1 constitution' is needed where existing and future rules can be stricken should they involve F1 pandering to TV audiences, 'fans' and suppliers.

Podium interviews are one of the most vacuous innovations I've seen in a long time. One lap qualifying was an unmitigated disaster. Artificial overtaking using DRS is no better. Tyre rules have been farcical, allowing Pirelli to make the spectacle all about themselves. And double points? All recent rules have in my view been disastrous for the integrity of F1 and there has to be some mechanism to prevent such stupidity.

[FerrariFanBoii]

Bridgestone back, that should be permanent rule.

[fratelliferrari]

Bridgestone back, that should be permanent rule.

Yes and then Michelin back too so we can have a tyre war again!

[wisepie]

DRS is to overcome the deficit from running closely behind another car. This is something a driver's skill cannot overcome, it's a physics issue.

Without DRS, overtaking becomes almost impossible in certain situation.
That's my point, Hornet, with the aero providing so much of the problem here, it's just another technical aspect which doesn't allow proper wheel-to-wheel racing. I realise F1 is supposed to be the pinnacle of motor-racing but the technical side has overtaken the essence of the sport. No easy fix, unfortunately!

[mihirshah28186]

I am not saying to eliminate DRS overtaking but to limit its use.To be used when it is abolutely important, not on every lap.

[Nero Horse]

Yes and then Michelin back too so we can have a tyre war again!

Along with Michelin, I'd like to see Goodyear back as well. Ferrari and Goodyear, that's a legendary partnership.

[fratelliferrari]

Along with Michelin, I'd like to see Goodyear back as well. Ferrari and Goodyear, that's a legendary partnership.

Yes that would be nice but I have also very nice memories about the combination Ferrari-Bridgestone :xmasbiggrin:

[FerrariFanBoii]

A new rule.... The season never has a break? hehe! I hate waiting :(