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medeni73
6th January 2014, 22:08
Its getting close folks so I begin another round of 2014 car launch schedule speculations :)

I will try to maintain this thread and fill it with new infos as they come. Lets begin, for now we have following dates (some of them official some of them will/can be changed):

All information without guarantee!



Team
Date
Place


Sahara Force India F1 - VJM07
already there :), official presentation 28 January in Jerez
online - http://www.forceindiaf1.com/news/detail/general/sahara-force-india-presents-a-fresh-new-look-for-2014


McLaren Mercedes - MP4-29
January 24, 12:00 GMT (13:00 CET)
online - www.mclaren.com/formula1


Scuderia Ferrari - F14-T
January 25, 13:30 GMT (14:30 CET)
Maranello, online - http://2014f1car.ferrari.com/en/


Sauber F1 Team - C33 Ferrari
January 26, 15:00 GMT (16:00 CET)
online - http://www.sauberf1team.com


Scuderia Toro Rosso - STR9
January 27, 16:30 GMT (17:30 CET)
Jerez, Spain


Mercedes AMG Petronas - W05
January 28
Jerez, Spain


Caterham F1 Team - CT04
January 28
Jerez, Spain


Infiniti Red Bull Racing - RB10
January 28, 07:40 GMT (08:40 CET)
Jerez, Spain


Williams F1 Team - FW36
January 28
Jerez, Spain


Marussia F1 Team - MR03
January 28
Jerez, Spain


Lotus F1 Team - E22
sometime between 1-19. February (before Bahrain test)
TBA


** - Not officially confirmed

stefa
6th January 2014, 23:23
This year most of the teams will present their cars just before 1st winter test

vcs316
7th January 2014, 03:46
Lotus delays E22 reveal


6 January 2014 – Lotus F1 team technical director, Nick Chester has confirmed the Enstone-based outfit is to delay the introduction of its new 2014 F1 car and that it will not run with the E22 until the Bahrain tests in March.

“We’re going to keep our car under wraps a little longer than some other teams,” he stated. “We’ve decided that attending the Jerez test isn’t ideal for our build and development programme.

“We are likely to unveil the car before attending the Bahrain tests, and in Bahrain we should really be able to put the car through its paces in representative conditions.”

It remains to be seen if the squad will bother running at Jerez from January 28-31 with the E21, although it seems unlikely given the major regulation changes for the coming season.

Meanwhile, despite the fact the outfit will not be ready for the first pre-season test, Chester insisted that work on the E22 is progressing well.

“We’ve made very good progress with the various homologation tests which took place before Christmas including chassis squeeze and side impact loading tests as well as the rear crash structure, meaning we just have the nose test to complete the car’s homologation,” he explained.

“We’ve undertaken chassis fits for Romain [Grosjean] and Pastor [Maldonado]. Certainly, our partners who have seen the car have reported themselves to be very impressed with the layout and various solutions to the new technical challenges.”

“From our perspective the figures look promising and development has been positive,” he continued. “That said, however, we are very much working with very little idea of what the other teams are doing. This is the first year of radically different regulations which means that all teams are developing their cars along potentially quite different avenues. It’s fascinating for us engineers and I hope it is fascinating for the fans too.

"We think we have a very good solution to the challenge and hopefully this will be seen when the E22 turns its wheels in anger.”

Hornet
7th January 2014, 04:00
Thanks. Looking forward to see all the new cars

I wonder if Lotus is skipping Jerez test due to lack of money. I can't think of any reason why testing would not be ideal for any development program :Hmm

medeni73
7th January 2014, 05:09
Lotus delays E22 reveal

There are 2 tests in Bahrain: 19-22 February and 27 February - 02 March and I dont think they will show up with a car on last test just 2 weeks before season begins??? I think Lotus guy meant 1. Bahrain test cos he said "before attending the Bahrain tests"

Forzi
7th January 2014, 09:51
Somewhat, got a feeling that we won't even be seeing Lotus before the first race. It's going on a downhill spiral...

ManFromMilan
7th January 2014, 10:17
I wonder if Lotus is skipping Jerez test due to lack of money. I can't think of any reason why testing would not be ideal for any development program :Hmm




Don't think they have a car that is ready to test. It is difficult to have a testing program and structure for a car that might not even have mad it of the design table yet.

So yes i do think it is money. But the lack of money last year to develop and design a car for this year.

Rob
7th January 2014, 17:47
Thanks. Looking forward to see all the new cars

I wonder if Lotus is skipping Jerez test due to lack of money. I can't think of any reason why testing would not be ideal for any development program :Hmm

Have heard that Renault is saying to the teams it supplys, that they maybe late. Hearing Renault having problems (overheating turbo). Red Bull has said that they maybe late aswell. But we will see.

Hornet
7th January 2014, 18:12
:-E Wow. I hope that's true:-D

PlatzdaTurbo
8th January 2014, 03:03
Renault having problems ?! When was the last time i heard that ??:-E
Anything that helps make this season NOT like last year and very competitive (with an end in our favor ofcourse:-D ) is almost the need of the hour.
Also what are they chances that we will have an online launch as well ? Any clue anyone ?

F1NAC
8th January 2014, 08:42
Have heard that Renault is saying to the teams it supplys, that they maybe late. Hearing Renault having problems (overheating turbo). Red Bull has said that they maybe late aswell. But we will see.

Lotus has nothing to do with Renault. Because Renault is supplying in 2014 RBR, STR; and Caterham

FerrariFanBoii
8th January 2014, 10:30
Lotus has nothing to do with Renault. Because Renault is supplying in 2014 RBR, STR; and Caterham

But Renault are Lotus's engine supplier too...? O.o

tifosi1993
8th January 2014, 11:15
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdZTRWIIUAAaiiN.jpg:large

ntukza
8th January 2014, 14:46
:-E Wow. I hope that's true:-D

How can you be so cruel? ;-)

Hornet
8th January 2014, 15:55
How can you be so cruel? ;-)

We've suffered enough, it's time RB fans suffer a little :-G

Rishu
8th January 2014, 15:56
According to Piola, 2014 Force India will have a step on the nose

http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/33657/f1-force-india-la-sorpresa-e-un-gradino-sulla-scocca

F1NAC
8th January 2014, 22:23
But Renault are Lotus's engine supplier too...? O.o

Not anymore they had contract until the end of 2013

Kiwi Nick
8th January 2014, 23:55
It could very well be that Kimi is making it difficult for Lotus to move forward with investors and development of the new car. If he is going to enforce his contract, he would be the first to be paid before investor money could go to the new car.

Katu
9th January 2014, 04:51
It could very well be that Kimi is making it difficult for Lotus to move forward with investors and development of the new car. If he is going to enforce his contract, he would be the first to be paid before investor money could go to the new car.

since it's an old debt, i can hardly feel sympathy for Lotus

stefa
9th January 2014, 08:36
I know that there is big anxiety about new cars, but it is much easier to wait two more weeks than to speculate!

mirafiori
9th January 2014, 08:45
I know that there is big anxiety about new cars, but it is much easier to wait two more weeks than to speculate!

Nothing wrong with a bit of foreplay.:thumb

medeni73
9th January 2014, 09:05
It could very well be that Kimi is making it difficult for Lotus to move forward with investors and development of the new car. If he is going to enforce his contract, he would be the first to be paid before investor money could go to the new car.

As I recall Kimi already agreed to get just 5 millions instead of 20 millions (contract) and even that sum is not easy to get from Lotus...so in a way Kimi is their greatest sponsor and if he invest some more we could get Kimi GP soon :)

stefa
9th January 2014, 09:07
Nothing wrong with a bit of foreplay.:thumb

Nothing. I agree :-)

FerrariFanBoii
9th January 2014, 10:24
Not anymore they had contract until the end of 2013

Then who's the supplier now?

Rishu
9th January 2014, 10:24
So who will be Lotus F1 Team's engine supplier & is Red Bull the "work's team" for Renault?

Ed Harley
9th January 2014, 10:27
IMHO,
- Renault if Lotus gets funding sorted
- RBR will continue to be Renault's #1 team.

Nero Horse
9th January 2014, 16:02
With Lotus missing the first test that should eliminate at least one of our competitors. It's going to be almost impossible for them to catch up with the teams that will participate in the first test. Every second of on-track testing is going to be double in value this season, that's a fact.

ntukza
14th January 2014, 16:35
Are there limitations to the amount of tyres available per team during testing?

Hornet
14th January 2014, 17:34
Looks like there will be no live coverage from Sky for Jerez test week. Only roundup and Ted's notebook after each day's session.
http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/22058/9115780/testing-testingsky-sports-f1s-jerez-plans


I wonder if any other tv channel have live coverage.

M.K
14th January 2014, 17:55
I dont remember having live test coverages, ever.

Rob
14th January 2014, 18:00
I dont remember having live test coverages, ever.

Last year, Sky ran live coverage on the last test at Barcelona.

Hornet
14th January 2014, 18:09
Yea I was thinking of that one. Almost forgot it was the last week.

Hopefully we'll get to see some live action on the 3rd test then:pray

Kyss4k
14th January 2014, 18:45
Last year, Sky ran live coverage on the last test at Barcelona.

in 3D 8-)

ntukza
14th January 2014, 21:21
We've suffered enough, it's time RB fans suffer a little :-G

;)

Senna4Ever
15th January 2014, 14:31
From Google+

Car name reveal: Friday, 24th at 12 CET
2014 car reveal and photo gallery: Saturday 25th, at 14.30 CET

FERRARI-0000
15th January 2014, 14:49
Ferrari announce launch date and name options for 2014 car.
Ferrari have become the latest team to reveal the launch date for their 2014 challenger, announcing that it will be unveiled on January 25 at 1430 CET, three days before pre-season testing begins in Spain.
In a novel move, the Italian squad are leaving it up to fans to decide the name of the car that Fernando Alonso and Kimi Raikkonen will drive, with five options available to choose from in an online vote on their official website.
They are: F14 T, F14 Maranello, F14 Scuderia, F166 Turbo and F616. The result of the poll will be announced on January 24, the day before the car reveal.
As it stands, Ferrari will be the second team to unveil their 2014 car, with McLaren set to be the first with an online launch on January 24.

ntukza
15th January 2014, 14:55
Can't wait.

Rob
15th January 2014, 19:45
A Red Letter Day.
http://i42.tinypic.com/2eb4rps.jpg
Maranello, 15 January – For the first time in the history of Scuderia Ferrari, the name of the car that Fernando Alonso and Kimi Raikkonen will drive as they aim for victory in this year’s Formula 1 championship will be chosen by fans from around the world.

As from today, you can vote for your favourite name by going to ferrari.com and the Scuderia’s Twitter and Facebook pages. The choice can be made from these five options, F14 T, F14 Maranello, F14 Scuderia, F166 Turbo or F616.

The name that gets the most votes will be revealed on 24 January at 12.30 (CET,) the day before the first photos of the car are exclusively revealed, along with a series of multimedia tools that will outline its main technical characteristics.

Not only can fans make their mark on the Scuderia’s 2014 adventure, but again through the website and social media networks, they can also put questions to Team Principal Stefano Domenicali and the two race drivers, using the hashtags #askStefano, #askAlo, #Kimi. The protagonists will answer the most interesting and stimulating questions in a video which will also go out on Saturday 25 January.

- See more at: http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/red-letter-day#sthash.wKBqrah7.dpuf

Senna4Ever
16th January 2014, 12:55
Red Bull Racing will reveal new car on first day in Jerez around 8:40

Source: german motorsport page ...

Hornet
16th January 2014, 14:38
@tgruener 1h
Red Bull at least has a pitlane unveiling. Heard the new Mercedes just rolls out of the garage on the track without any photo opportunity.

The teams sure try to keep their cars a secret for as long as they can

ntukza
16th January 2014, 18:26
Red Bull Racing will reveal new car on first day in Jerez around 8:40

Source: german motorsport page ...

I hope it's a donkey, with which Daniel will beat his teammate. Regularly.

FerrariF60
16th January 2014, 18:27
I hope it's a donkey, with which Daniel will beat his teammate. Regularly.

yeah, taht would be sweet....Pettel's look on his face would be PRICELESS!!!!

Nero Horse
16th January 2014, 22:47
I hope it's a donkey, with which Daniel will beat his teammate. Regularly.

It would be really funny indeed if Ricciardo would start beating Vettel, but as we all know, there are plenty of people in the RB team who will make sure that this will never-ever happen. No one in RB would dare to threaten the happiness of their "golden boy".

ManFromMilan
17th January 2014, 11:14
It would be really funny indeed if Ricciardo would start beating Vettel, but as we all know, there are plenty of people in the RB team who will make sure that this will never-ever happen. No one in RB would dare to threaten the happiness of their "golden boy".




Yeah, i think it can be safely stated that if Daniel is quick he might start loosing wheels after pitstops and have a few electrical system gremlins.

M.K
17th January 2014, 11:41
Last year, Sky ran live coverage on the last test at Barcelona.

Ohh, didn't know that. Thanks!

F1NAC
17th January 2014, 14:14
McLaren apparently failed crashtest

tifosi1993
17th January 2014, 14:26
McLaren apparently failed crashtest

Good news. :-D

ManFromMilan
17th January 2014, 15:15
McLaren apparently failed crashtest



C'mon Ron!

You need to keep those reins tighter.
:-D

Avanzamento
17th January 2014, 16:24
Sauber to launch online ahead of Jerez test (F1 Technical): http://www.f1technical.net/news/19060

stefa
18th January 2014, 09:09
Finally, next week some action, after long winter, will be happening :-)

Rishu
20th January 2014, 16:17
Williams F1 Twitter:

@WilliamsF1Team: We can announce we will be on track in Jerez. @ValtteriBottas will do days 1 & 2 @Felipe1Massa days 3 & 4 running our heritage blue livery

alonso888
20th January 2014, 17:02
5 More days guys, 5 more days :clap :-D :-D :-D

medeni73
21st January 2014, 12:26
Confirmed: MP4-29 has passed all its FIA crash tests. #McLaren2014

medeni73
22nd January 2014, 09:11
http://www.forceindiaf1.com/ee/images/uploads/1390380789069264.jpg

very very nice livery...

Ed Harley
22nd January 2014, 09:21
Nice profile and livery. Could have more green and less black but it'll do.

Sianellen
22nd January 2014, 09:55
Love the FI livery. Looks beasty.

Hornet
22nd January 2014, 10:05
Edit: Nevermind. It is.

Sidepod surprise me, looks like 2013 car:Hmm



@ScarbsF1 24m
Not much to see from this angle, its all quite sleek, the nose appears to be the 'finger' type as expected

@ScarbsF1 21m
The top of the chassis is flat which proves the stepped chassis front has been adopted

@ScarbsF1 20m
May be the roll hoop inlet feeds an oil cooler mounted above the engine, tricky with the hot turbo there too

@ScarbsF1 19m
The rear wing endplate shows more slots on its leading edge (the white panel)

tifosi1993
22nd January 2014, 10:08
Bigger image:

http://www.caranddriverthef1.com/sites/default/files/node_articulof1_imagen/force-india-vjm07.jpg
Nose cone:

http://www.newsf1.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Nose_force_india.jpg

Exhaust:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bek16R1CMAAAFRu.jpg

TheFatHippo
22nd January 2014, 11:18
The nose is provisional though. Andy Green already said it is a banker and will be changed later on. Hopefully they come up with something less hideous along the road.

Forzi
22nd January 2014, 11:34
A quick sharpie sketch of the #VJM07 nose from Scarbs

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BelEyznIEAA-iun.jpg

Also, must say, the new colors on the car look rather brilliant.

shamim179
22nd January 2014, 11:54
Nice livery on the new VJM07. Terrific contrast between the various colors. Well done to them.

Hornet
22nd January 2014, 12:35
Interesting color scheme, but certainly not a style I want to see on a Ferrari :-D

I prefer having a defining color that covers majority of the car, such as red for Ferrari, or silver for Mercedes.

TheFatHippo
22nd January 2014, 13:00
The Ferrari and Merc colours are remnants of the pre-war era, when red was the national colour of Italy and Silver became Merc's color after they one day scratched off the white colour (German national color at the time) to save weight.

The only other team with a 'trademark' colour would be McLaren in orange. I'd rather see some of the epic combinations return, like Williams's blue/yellow Canon combo or the iconic red/white on the McLaren. The early all-black Saubers looked fantastic, too, but nothing is a nice as this one:

http://cdn-4.motorsport.com/static/img/mgl/1100000/1160000/1163000/1163700/1163724/s1_1.jpg

Slick livery on a drop-dead gorgeous car :-)

Ed Harley
22nd January 2014, 13:28
...but nothing is a nice as this one...
There are liveries and then there is the one.

5648

stefa
22nd January 2014, 13:42
What a nice color scheme on that FI car!!!!!!

stefa
22nd January 2014, 13:42
The Ferrari and Merc colours are remnants of the pre-war era, when red was the national colour of Italy and Silver became Merc's color after they one day scratched off the white colour (German national color at the time) to save weight.

The only other team with a 'trademark' colour would be McLaren in orange. I'd rather see some of the epic combinations return, like Williams's blue/yellow Canon combo or the iconic red/white on the McLaren. The early all-black Saubers looked fantastic, too, but nothing is a nice as this one:

http://cdn-4.motorsport.com/static/img/mgl/1100000/1160000/1163000/1163700/1163724/s1_1.jpg

Slick livery on a drop-dead gorgeous car :-)

Simply BEAUTY!!!

ManFromMilan
22nd January 2014, 13:52
http://cdn-4.motorsport.com/static/img/mgl/1100000/1160000/1163000/1163700/1163724/s1_1.jpg






Too bad about that ghastly Ford badge....

Pekka
22nd January 2014, 15:26
I like the Force India livery. Still has the indian flag color-theme on it. That shiny black looks very nice with it. :-)

AfterLife
22nd January 2014, 16:33
Well done to ForceIndia. Their aggressive livery reminds me of F2008 and i don't know why. Beautiful.
I'm sure that aggressive livery will bring 0.2s advantage :thumb

stefa
22nd January 2014, 17:00
Well done to ForceIndia. Their aggressive livery reminds me of F2008 and i don't know why. Beautiful.
I'm sure that aggressive livery will bring 0.2s advantage :thumb

:lol

DIEK
22nd January 2014, 17:23
https://scontent-a-mxp.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/1075408_617570144957122_1535863180_o.jpg

voiko
22nd January 2014, 21:28
love the new Force India livery! I like sexy cars, I hope they do well purely out of attraction ;)

ManFromMilan
23rd January 2014, 00:28
love the new Force India livery! I like sexy cars, I hope they do well purely out of attraction ;)



If and when they don"t have Ferrari power i hope they suck and struggle.

We can have a very successful and exciting championship if only our drivers are performing and coming in second and first. Not like RBR where one wins in an unbeatable car while the wheels fall of the other.

Rishu
23rd January 2014, 02:38
Nice livelry from Force India, hopefully they will beat McLaren this year :-D

Katu
23rd January 2014, 06:21
Nice livelry from Force India, hopefully they will beat McLaren this year :-D

agreed ;-)

wisepie
23rd January 2014, 08:03
Approve of the Force India livery but why the black? Maybe they know that Lotus won't be black or indeed back.......! And as Man from Milan says, we don't want any non-Ferrari engined cars going as well as they may look.

piglett
23rd January 2014, 08:07
i don't get it. will they cover the test, or not?

"The Sky Sports F1 Online team will be providing live commentary of all three winter tests, starting in Jerez on Tuesday January 28, with live updates from trackside also on Sky Sports News"

"Sky Sports F1's Jerez test schedule

Tuesday January 28
9pm - Jerez Day One round-up.
9.15pm - Ted's Notebook, Jerez Day One.

Wednesday January 29
9pm - Jerez Day Two round-up.
9.15pm - Ted's Notebook, Jerez Day Two.

Thursday January 30
9pm - Jerez Day Three round-up.
9.15pm - Ted's Notebook, Jerez Day Three.

Friday January 31
9pm - Jerez Day Four round-up.
9.15pm - Ted's Notebook, Jerez Day Four."

link: http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/22058/9115780/testing-testingsky-sports-f1s-jerez-plans

Hornet
23rd January 2014, 08:45
i don't get it. will they cover the test, or not?


They will just show a short program after each practice day highlighting important stuff, and Ted's notebook program where he share what he saw and his opinion about it.

No live coverage.

Rob
23rd January 2014, 08:50
More than likely they will do what they done last year, and show the last test live.

F2002
23rd January 2014, 09:06
This has just been put online, it's a first spec of the new Williams.

5650

5651

Hornet
23rd January 2014, 09:29
It's going to be embarrasing for F1 if every car show up around the world with such nose :giveup

I hope they fix that dumb rule next year

DIEK
23rd January 2014, 09:41
http://i42.tinypic.com/2vj65tv.jpg

Toro Rosso crash test.

tifosi1993
23rd January 2014, 10:12
http://www.williamsf1.com/Global/Images/Resizable/Resized/WF1_FW36_ISO-herowide.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bep2_IYCAAAdiRF.jpg:large

Forzi
23rd January 2014, 10:24
Must say, the nose on that Willliams ain't too bad. Could live with it. But the question remains, is this the worst we'll see?

stefa
23rd January 2014, 11:06
Must say, the nose on that Willliams ain't too bad. Could live with it. But the question remains, is this the worst we'll see?

Exact same opinion here.

Ed Harley
23rd January 2014, 11:09
Motor racing-Formula One meets 'Alien' for new season

Formula One's new crop of cars will look like something out of a science fiction horror movie with front ends that are the stuff of nightmares, according to Caterham principal Cyril Abiteboul.

"It does remind me a little bit of the monster in 'Alien'," the Frenchman told Reuters when asked about the nose on his team's yet-to-be-revealed 2014 creation.

http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/01/22/motor-racing-ugly-idINL3N0KW3P120140122

AfterLife
23rd January 2014, 12:05
Must say, the nose on that Willliams ain't too bad. Could live with it.

Same here

Jas
23rd January 2014, 12:20
rumours going around that Williams title sponser will be martini...now that will be a good livery! http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/476267/Williams_on_brink_of_announcing_Martini_Racing_dea l_for_2014_and_beyond/

DIEK
23rd January 2014, 12:53
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bep4sIqCMAEAqdZ.jpg

:rotfl

Hornet
23rd January 2014, 13:06
:lol

Saw some comments online saying the nose is a good spot for certain product advertising, you guys can probably guess what.:-G

Ferrari_Fanatic
23rd January 2014, 13:07
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bep4sIqCMAEAqdZ.jpg

:rotfl

Exactly what i was thinking, why cant they just leave that part out it would have looked a nice car then :roll

F2002
23rd January 2014, 14:14
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bep4sIqCMAEAqdZ.jpg

:rotfl

Don't get me started about that thing and the new hole at the back....

wisepie
23rd January 2014, 17:53
These nose jobs look as if they're going to be open to all sorts of rude comments......they look as if they need some viagra.

Suzie
23rd January 2014, 19:06
Doesn't look as bad as I was expecting. Anyway a few races in and we won't even notice them. At the very least I don't think it's as bad as the stepped nose... bleurgh!

shamim179
23rd January 2014, 19:17
Imagine one of them gets stuck on the rear end of the cars ahead. That would be embarrassing!

Because they're pointy they could easily get damaged? One of the reasons for introducing changes to the wing in terms of regulations is due to the old wing being prone to damage. Have the FIA got it wrong here?

Forzi
23rd January 2014, 19:37
Job well done by the FIA on trying to get more female fans in to the sport. The car now not only sounds with the V6 but is starting to look like a certain vibrating sex toy :-)

DIEK
23rd January 2014, 19:49
http://www.williamsf1.com/Global/Images/Resizable/Resized/WF1_FW36_ISO-herowide.jpg



http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121208171308/muppet/images/3/31/Gonzo-TheVoice-2012.jpg

:lol

Katu
23rd January 2014, 19:59
Job well done by the FIA on trying to get more female fans in to the sport. The car now not only sounds with the V6 but is starting to look like a certain vibrating sex toy :-)

that is a good one!!!

SS454
23rd January 2014, 20:08
Gonzo nose. lol!

Suzie
23rd January 2014, 20:12
Job well done by the FIA on trying to get more female fans in to the sport. The car now not only sounds with the V6 but is starting to look like a certain vibrating sex toy :-)

Some men might like that too.

Kyss4k
23rd January 2014, 21:05
Little off topic, but there are rumours, that Whitmarsh is being replaced by Sam Michael as team principal of McLaren. :roll

http://www.f1today.net/en/news/sam-michael-to-be-mclaren-team-prinicpal

Hornet
24th January 2014, 04:13
Imagine one of them gets stuck on the rear end of the cars ahead. That would be embarrassing!

Because they're pointy they could easily get damaged? One of the reasons for introducing changes to the wing in terms of regulations is due to the old wing being prone to damage. Have the FIA got it wrong here?

Actually it's to prevent the nose from hitting the driver's head in the event of a car hitting the side of another car

The FIA was probably thinking of the old McLaren narrow nose tip design, but as they say what we have learn since then cannot be unlearn. Designers will always try to keep the bulk head as high as they can with what we know today.

Jacquesvw
24th January 2014, 08:32
http://www.williamsf1.com/Global/Images/Resizable/Resized/WF1_FW36_ISO-herowide.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c4/Long_nosed_weevil_edit.jpg/800px-Long_nosed_weevil_edit.jpg

F2002
24th January 2014, 10:43
Little off topic, but there are rumours, that Whitmarsh is being replaced by Sam Michael as team principal of McLaren. :roll

http://www.f1today.net/en/news/sam-michael-to-be-mclaren-team-prinicpal

You mean E Boullier ?

http://www.eurosport.fr/formule-1/saison-2014/2014/eric-boullier-quitte-lotus-pour-mclaren_sto4105566/story.shtml

Kyss4k
24th January 2014, 11:09
You mean E Boullier ?

http://www.eurosport.fr/formule-1/saison-2014/2014/eric-boullier-quitte-lotus-pour-mclaren_sto4105566/story.shtml

So one page says this, another that... what is true then? Boullier leaves Lotus, that is 100% but if it is McLaren... and what about Michael?

Ste
24th January 2014, 11:58
If anyone is interested in following the McLaren launch, you can do so here:

http://www.mclaren.com/formula1/car/?gclid=CNafjubglrwCFZDKtAodRTUAlw

FerrariF60
24th January 2014, 12:00
he're the new mclaren

http://media.cdn.mclaren.com/images/galleries/_79P0166.jpg

http://media.cdn.mclaren.com/images/galleries/_79P0197.jpg

http://media.cdn.mclaren.com/images/galleries/_79P0207.jpg

http://media.cdn.mclaren.com/images/galleries/_79P0147.jpg

medeni73
24th January 2014, 12:00
http://media.cdn.mclaren.com/images/galleries/_79P0166.jpg
http://media.cdn.mclaren.com/images/galleries/_79P0207.jpg
http://media.cdn.mclaren.com/images/galleries/_79P0197.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BevlNE0CMAIDiM4.jpg

Hornet
24th January 2014, 12:01
Finally a real car and not computer generated :-)

Looks like the front wing will be out-wash

Ste
24th January 2014, 12:01
Have to say, I think that looks awesome. Unless you look from above...

FerrariF60
24th January 2014, 12:02
kind of ugly NOSE, but this is thanks to the FIA for messing it up YET AGAIN

i'm also pretty sure that out beloved F14 T will ALSO be ugly; again, thanks to the FIA for dreaming up such ****** rules

SAD BUT TRUE!!!!

medeni73
24th January 2014, 12:04
whatever comes up tommorrow I dont think we can steal title "ugliest car ever" from them...:)

Hornet
24th January 2014, 12:05
Something unusual about the coke-bottle rear. Seems like the rear section is much bulkier than last year?

Ed Harley
24th January 2014, 12:05
Funny looking piece of engineering.

FerrariFanBoii
24th January 2014, 12:05
And people thought the F2012 was ugly...

medeni73
24th January 2014, 12:06
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BevlO5ACQAEyFE1.png

F2002
24th January 2014, 12:06
In the shot taken from above, it gives you the finger :-)

medeni73
24th January 2014, 12:07
Lotus looks better...

Hornet
24th January 2014, 12:07
In the shot taken from above, it gives you the finger :-)

Double finger from Lotus. :-D

Dear me

AfterLife
24th January 2014, 12:08
The car is beautiful but the nose is joke :rotfl
OMG LOL

Ste
24th January 2014, 12:09
http://i43.tinypic.com/9rrpeb.jpg

nikola0406
24th January 2014, 12:11
Macca is uglly as hell.

Ste
24th January 2014, 12:12
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bes2WlJIEAAZAQo.jpg
Why the picture of an old McLaren?

AfterLife
24th January 2014, 12:12
OMG, That McLaren from above :rotfl :lol Ridiculously rude. Amen to 2012 stepped noses.

Rob
24th January 2014, 12:13
The Lotus looks like it has a massive tuning fork on the front. Hate to say it, im not liking none of these so far, and dont think i will "get" to like them by mid season.

Hornet
24th January 2014, 12:15
From both McLaren and Lotus, they seem to go for a very deep undercut at the rear section. The top section is wider, but below that, it is slimmer. Wonder if it has something to do with cooling.

tifosi1993
24th January 2014, 12:16
Why the picture of an old McLaren?

Oops, my bad.

AfterLife
24th January 2014, 12:17
Where is formula1 going??:rotfl

stefa
24th January 2014, 12:19
Have to say, I think that looks awesome. Unless you look from above...

Agree with you. It looks... Honestly great!

Kyss4k
24th January 2014, 12:20
Uhm... I love the looks of the new McLaren. I may be wierd, it looks freaking fantastic. Even the nose, it somehow gives the car a mean look. :oops

I don't quite fance the Lotus's nose though. It seems way too massive.

Hornet
24th January 2014, 12:22
Uhm... I love the looks of the new McLaren. I may be wierd, it looks freaking fantastic. :oops

It looks nice from the side... in that picture with the drivers. The nose looks very slick with the finger not so obvious from that shot :-P

tifosi1993
24th January 2014, 12:23
http://imageshack.com/a/img11/3332/wr6j.jpg

Hornet
24th January 2014, 12:24
Lotus trolling?


‏@ScarbsF1 5m
Not sure how Lotus make the twin tusk arrangement meet the reg "a single external cross section of more than 9000mm² "

FerrariF60
24th January 2014, 12:27
whatever comes up tommorrow I dont think we can steal title "ugliest car ever" from them...:)

i wouldn't hold my breath....not just yet anyways...LOLOLOL

but yeah, i TRULLY hope that the new F14 T will somehow look a little better....:pray:pray

Ste
24th January 2014, 12:27
http://imageshack.com/a/img11/3332/wr6j.jpg
I saw that last night and honestly, despite the odd noses, this years cars look a lot nicer than last years. They've somewhat (not completely) returned to looking small and manoeuvrable - not like heavy, clunky, bulky tractors.

Kingdom Hearts
24th January 2014, 12:29
Is that pic from the Lotus real?.

The McLaren looks great, the only thing I don't like is the nose.

Hornet
24th January 2014, 12:30
Is that pic from the Lotus real?.

The McLaren looks great, the only thing I don't like is the nose.

Computer generated, so they can simply change the design and not show the actual nose.

But it came from Lotus official source

RedPassion
24th January 2014, 12:31
I must say that the rear suspension of the mclaren is extremely interesting(a sort of replacement for the beam wing),and of course they returned to front push rod.

Hornet
24th January 2014, 12:41
I must say that the rear suspension of the mclaren is extremely interesting(a sort of replacement for the beam wing),and of course they returned to front push rod.
Well spotted, completely missed the front push rod.

Wonder what Ferrari's move will be :Hmm

Forzi
24th January 2014, 12:47
Rather sure Lotus published a dummy photo. The nose ain't in the regs, and seeing how they are late on everything, i wouldn't take this pic seriously. Probably just trolling on McLaren, since they've stolen off Boullier.

Rob
24th January 2014, 12:48
Well spotted, completely missed the front push rod.

Wonder what Ferrari's move will be :Hmm

we wait and see. I hope as we have couple years behind us now, and James Allison on Aero now aswell, we can/have understood the flow around the pull rod layout better. As looking at Mclarens push rod layout, it looks tidier for the air flow to the side pods.:-??

Forzi
24th January 2014, 12:53
http://www.mclaren.com/formula1/car/#player-360

3d of the mclaren. you'll need to install a program but it's worth it.

ManFromMilan
24th January 2014, 12:53
A championship of dog ugly race cars....

RedPassion
24th January 2014, 12:56
we wait and see. I hope as we have couple years behind us now, and James Allison on Aero now aswell, we can/have understood the flow around the pull rod layout better. As looking at Mclarens push rod layout, it looks tidier for the air flow to the side pods.:-??
Thank you Hornet ;-)
I personally believe that it is better to stay with the pull rod for two reasons,we already have experience on it,and it suits the new rules at best.I could be terribly wrong but i do not understand mclaren move to switch 2 different suspension layouts in 2 consecutive years,it looks like there is as always a lot of political pressure in Woking,and that can produce a lot of chaos,but as i said i could be terribly wrong on it:Hmm

Kyss4k
24th January 2014, 12:57
A championship of dog ugly race cars....

I like them :wave

Kyss4k
24th January 2014, 12:58
Thank you Hornet ;-)
I personally believe that it is better to stay with the pull rod for two reasons,we already have experience on it,and it suits the new rules at best.I could be terribly wrong but i do not understand mclaren move to switch 2 different suspension layouts in 2 consecutive years,it looks like there is as always a lot of political pressure in Woking,and that can produce a lot of chaos,but as i said i could be terribly wrong on it:Hmm

Pull rod doesn't suit the new rules AT ALL.

Ste
24th January 2014, 13:03
McLaren have already written off 2014:


McLaren has described 2014 as a year of "growth and regrowth" as it attempts to return to winning ways.

Forzi
24th January 2014, 13:08
McLaren have already written off 2014:

They seem rather aggressive, since i've read that they got an update package for Melbourne being ready already.

ManFromMilan
24th January 2014, 13:11
I like them :wave



It will take me a while till i can get there my friend;-)

But it is all thanks to the Fia and their silly meddling.

Mclaren should be careful of not to much "growth" with that phallic nose of theirs...

Ste
24th January 2014, 13:14
They seem rather aggressive, since i've read that they got an update package for Melbourne being ready already.
"Just need to finish to score points at the start" - Sam Michael.

ManFromMilan
24th January 2014, 13:15
http://www.mclaren.com/formula1/car/#player-360

3d of the mclaren. you'll need to install a program but it's worth it.




Thanks Forzi

I hope Ferrari does something similar.

F2002
24th January 2014, 13:16
I saw that last night and honestly, despite the odd noses, this years cars look a lot nicer than last years. They've somewhat (not completely) returned to looking small and manoeuvrable - not like heavy, clunky, bulky tractors.

I agree. Bar the ridiculous shape of the noses, the 2014 cars are better looking.

Forzi
24th January 2014, 13:17
Mclaren should be careful of not to much "growth" with that phallic nose of theirs...

Just wait for the car to start moving and the nose getting blown.








I'm sorry :rotfl

Forzi
24th January 2014, 13:18
"Just need to finish to score points at the start" - Sam Michael.

Isn't it something all the teams will try doing? From what we've heard, we'll need luck to even finish the race without problems.

robin
24th January 2014, 13:31
Looks like the lotus could mate with the McLaren

tifosi1993
24th January 2014, 13:34
*TSN MODs*

Rishu
24th January 2014, 13:49
Well Mclaren MP4-29 & the drivers look nude without the Vodafone logo

Rob
24th January 2014, 14:17
Well Mclaren MP4-29 & the drivers look nude without the Vodafone logo

Looks odd without that. Wonder what their new title sponsor will be.:Hmm

Rob
24th January 2014, 14:48
About the Lotus "tusks"...

Craig Scarborough ‏@ScarbsF1 57s
The two tusks are unequal lengths, longer one forms the 9000mm2 tip, the other is also a crash strcuture, both act as Y250 flow conditioners

Kyss4k
24th January 2014, 15:02
About the Lotus "tusks"...

Craig Scarborough ‏@ScarbsF1 57s
The two tusks are unequal lengths, longer one forms the 9000mm2 tip, the other is also a crash strcuture, both act as Y250 flow conditioners

clever!

type056
24th January 2014, 15:02
Does anyone know will RAI broadcast Ferrari F14T unveiling?

PURE PASSION
24th January 2014, 15:08
5661

Hornet
24th January 2014, 15:36
About the Lotus "tusks"...

Craig Scarborough ‏@ScarbsF1 57s
The two tusks are unequal lengths, longer one forms the 9000mm2 tip, the other is also a crash strcuture, both act as Y250 flow conditioners

Interesting idea. Lotus posted another picture confirming that. Looks like they still have some creative people in the team

5662

TheFatHippo
24th January 2014, 15:39
Well Mclaren MP4-29 & the drivers look nude without the Vodafone logo

Well, it's only fitting with their car strutting it's genital in public, isn't it...

5663

stefa
24th January 2014, 15:44
5661

If this is how the nose of F14 T will look like, than I say BRAVO! This is really nice!

Kyss4k
24th January 2014, 15:52
If this is how the nose of F14 T will look like, than I say BRAVO! This is really nice!

NO! If this is how the would look like, we would not be using the rules. We want to be fast, don't we?

Btw, here's Lotus from the top: (I didn't see Hornet's tiny pic)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BewTj9OCYAE-4os.png:large

Forzi
24th January 2014, 15:55
Interesting idea. Lotus posted another picture confirming that. Looks like they still have some creative people in the team

5662

That's BRILLIANT. Way to go on finding the blind spot in the rules for Lotus on where the tip of the nose has to be. Using the two tusks for fulfilling two different parts of the rules for the nose and besides that creating aditional vortexes to direct airflow to the diffuser below the floor and around the lower part of the sidepods.

Been a while since we saw these kind of technical variations on the field and we ain't even in the mid point of car reveals! :clap

Hornet
24th January 2014, 16:10
That's BRILLIANT. Way to go on finding the blind spot in the rules for Lotus on where the tip of the nose has to be. Using the two tusks for fulfilling two different parts of the rules for the nose and besides that creating aditional vortexes to direct airflow to the diffuser below the floor and around the lower part of the sidepods.

Been a while since we saw these kind of technical variations on the field and we ain't even in the mid point of car reveals! :clap

Yeah, despite the ugly nose, this year it's very interesting to see all these different design, and how they will perform later.

Can't wait for F14T tomorrow

stefa
24th January 2014, 16:19
NO! If this is how the would look like, we would not be using the rules. We want to be fast, don't we?

Btw, here's Lotus from the top: (I didn't see Hornet's tiny pic)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BewTj9OCYAE-4os.png:large

I've commented the looks. I do really hope Ferrari engineers are pushing rules to the very limit! Any way less than 24 Hrs!

hrc5555
24th January 2014, 16:21
Anyone knows for sure that Lotus nose is aerodynamically the best approach?
If this is how its going to be Lotus nose, and if it is legal than they are not smart at all! They will do first test in Bahrain so they descovered this solution way to early!
Unless they are convinced that Ferrari is using that solution too. :lol

Avantifer12
24th January 2014, 16:22
So here is what we have so far except the Lotus. Front view comparison is maybe more interesting but I have to say they all look really nice from the side. All three is Mercedes powered if that could add some speculation about rear packaging, sidepods and cooling solutions.

http://oi44.tinypic.com/2vl3407.jpg

karvyin12
24th January 2014, 16:48
Hope our car is fast n beautiful....

Forzi
24th January 2014, 16:55
Anyone knows for sure that Lotus nose is aerodynamically the best approach?
If this is how its going to be Lotus nose, and if it is legal than they are not smart at all! They will do first test in Bahrain so they descovered this solution way to early!
Unless they are convinced that Ferrari is using that solution too. :lol

It's legal thats for sure and it doesn't give any aerodynamic downside. You get more air under the nose and the two tusks acting as vortex generators get even more controled air below the car and around the sidepods to the rear. If they get everything right, this might really be the best way to go. Seems like so far, Lotus is the only team that found the loophole in the regs, that the cars nose doesn't have to be at the middle. That's why only one tusk is longer, it being considered as the nose of the car, while the other one is shorter, so that it doesn't break the rules of the car having a single nose tip edging to the reglamented area.

Jas
24th January 2014, 17:20
Unlike all of the recent surprise pre-release images, the scheduled MP4-29 online launch took place at McLaren’s headquarters in Woking this afternoon. Without further ado, let’s dive into the technical side of McLaren’s 2014 title contender…

Front wing/nose

mp4-29 nose

McLaren, like most of the teams this season, have gone down the same design avenue as the already-seen Force India and Williams cars. As explained in both analysis’ here on Richland F1, the “finger” is the best aerodynamic solution to tackle the problem of starving airflow beneath the chassis.

The design on the MP4-29, however, is elegant and maximise the width of the crash structure that makes up the nose assembly. The whole nose appears to be made of one single structure, rather than a thin crash structure within a thicker wedged vanity panel, which could prove to be a popular solution for teams this season.

This single-structure approach allows the extreme shaping of the front wing pylons to arch round and down towards the wing, creating a large opening for airflow to pass around the thin section of the nose into the area beneath the chassis.

The slot in the tip of the nose allows a small amount of air to reach either the driver or the electronic systems housed with the monocoque.

mp4-29 FW

The front wing itself is a new offering from McLaren, although it is an evolution of its 2013 predecessor. Featuring 6 elements at its outboard areas, the planes no longer attach directly to the endplate and instead arch downwards at 90 degrees to meet the footplate. McLaren have been caught out in the development of this area over the past few years and this looks like a good step in the right direction.

The cascade arrangement has also been slightly modified. The main winglet, attached to the endplate, is composed of two elements – the same as last year. However, the planes now curl up at their edges, forming two sharp, miniature endplates. These are similar to that seen on the 2013 Ferrari, used to aim airflow around the front tyre and reduce the wake formed behind.

A secondary cascade is branched off of the main winglet and appears to be virtually identical to that seen on the MP4-28.

Despite the front wing being a full 150mm narrower this season, the wing does not appear to have the aggressive outward curvature that we expected, particularly the endplate fence that holds the main cascade winglet into place. Perhaps this will change when the car hits the track next week.

McLaren have also mounted turning vanes beneath the nose cone, directly behind the extended pylons that reach downstream towards the centre of the car. The combination of the two long surface areas creates a venturi tunnel ahead of the front section of the floor, driving airflow into this region of the car which should produce more rear downforce.

Like the Williams FW36 images, camera pods have been placed ahead of the lower wishbones to aid aerodynamic efficiency.

On the subject of suspension, the team have reverted back to a push-rod layout after an unsuccessful year with the pull-rod. The pull-rod layout is much tougher to set up than a push-rod, as all the mechanical components are mainly accessed beneath the chassis. The small aerodynamic benefit of a pull-rod layout has decreased slightly due to the lower front bulkhead requirements, so it would be surprising to see any team continue to use pull-rod front suspension.

Sidepods

mp4-29 pods

Aside from the larger air intakes, there are some interesting details on the MP4-29 sidepods. The main body of the sidepod appears to sweep inwards towards the rear, tapering nicely at the coke-bottle section.

However, additional duct work stems at the rear of the ‘pod and travels horizontally back towards the rear wing. These two ducts (one each side of the car) act as an exhaust for the entire power unit assembly, extracting all of the heat via two channels rather than one central one that we are used to seeing.

The two ducts on each side of the car converge into one at the rear of the car. At the centre of the two lies the central exhaust exit, which I will move onto later.

As with all the cars this season, there will be plenty of cooling gills and louvres along the top of the sidepods due to the additional heat created by the ERS. The MP4-29 is no different, displaying a set of louvres either side of the cockpit area.

What is not shown on the launch car is the additional detail that the 360 degree virtual model reveals on the McLaren website.

The model reveals that the car will indeed feature a set of vortex generators on top of the sidepods, a Red Bull-style canard that attaches to the side of the cockpit and a strake along the side of the monocoque. These all aid how the airflow travels down the sidepods and towards the floor, producing a series of vortices that will interact with the boundary layer formed along the profile of the sidepod and hopefully decrease this layer. This reduces drag and can potentially allow for a little more downforce to be produced at the rear of the car.

Rear wing & Exhaust

The rear wing on the launch version of the MP4-29 is exactly the same as the 2013 specification, so don’t be fooled by its profile. The 2014 wing will be a little shallower and feature multiple slots along the trailing edge of the endplates, as the virtual model on the McLaren website implies.

Interestingly, the team have utilised a central pylon to support the rear wing rather than attaching the endplates to the top of the diffuser. Structurally this is easier to implement as the central pylon provides a much better support-to-weight ratio than extending and thickening the endplates.

They have also designed the pylon around the central exhaust exit, creating a small hole for it to pass through. The hole created also acts as McLaren’s version of the Y100 (Monkey Seat) winglet, although its profile does not appear to be aerodynamically useful in terms of downforce production.

The rumour mill has suggested that McLaren will have an innovative rear suspension for 2014, although this was not evident at today’s launch. The innovation is revolved around replicating the functions of the now banned beam wing, rather than mechanical performance. More on this when (and if) it comes.

Jas
24th January 2014, 17:25
Bravo lotus but why the hell would they reveal such a solution...if it is good when their not even in first test...hmmm...and with an old livery so not extra PR

Jas
24th January 2014, 17:30
LOTUS ANALYSIS: Another surprise image release came from Lotus. After much speculation, we were finally enlightened as to what they were getting up to with their nose design as well as a few other interesting features.

Nose

The nose is by far the most interesting part of the new E22. Although the “finger” solution will be the most common design this year, there is a way of dodging the bullet of having the small extension at the front as an obstruction to the underside of the car. It would seem that Lotus have exploited this loophole perfectly.

The FIA require that the nose must form one single cross section – when viewed from the side. This is where Lotus have come up trumps compared to the other solutions seen so far.

Whereas the others have gone for a single cross section entirely, the E22′s nose has two cross sections that form a large opening in between them, allowing airflow to fill the space beneath the chassis to improve rear downforce. This is why the nose height has been steadily increasing over the past four years, as teams looked to fill the underside of the car with a higher volume of airflow.

From the right side, however, only one cross section is visible therefore it is totally legal.

The nose is asymmetric, with the left side “prong” being shorter than the right. The longer side is the entire crash structure that must withstand the forces applied during the FIA crash tests. This prong then extends back towards the other side as it reaches the front bulkhead to form the rest of the nose.

The other side is a vanity panel – a hollow shell. Vanity panels are still permitted within the regulations and this allows the front wing to remain attached in a normal manner, with each prong consisting of one of the two pylons that connect to the wing itself.

If vanity panels were not allowed this design would not be legal, as the front wing pylon on the left side would have to attach the main crash structure. The crash structure itself is asymmetric, therefore the pylon would have to extend upwards and backwards much further than the right pylon. The pylons must be symmetrical and of a maximum cross section, therefore the design would illegal.

This design is very difficult to manufacture and I am sure the aerodynamic design team pushed for this more than anyone. Passing the crash tests must have been extremely difficult as the asymmetric format means that the load spreads unevenly up the nose as it crumples.

The vanity panel is not only used to mount the front wing pylon, but also as an extra energy absorbent structure to help pass the tests. Reducing its length saves a little bit of weight and I would imagine that the entire assembly is a lot heavier than the average 2014 nose to pass the crash tests, so every gram counts.

Avantifer12
24th January 2014, 17:40
The rumour mill has suggested that McLaren will have an innovative rear suspension for 2014, although this was not evident at today’s launch. The innovation is revolved around replicating the functions of the now banned beam wing, rather than mechanical performance. More on this when (and if) it comes.

I'm not sure if it is the angle but when looking at the over head shot the top rear wishbone looks be very far backwards (almost behind the rear wheels) and connected to the rear crash structure, I don't know if this is common practice since without the beam wing more things are revealed.

Stebandelareina
24th January 2014, 17:59
Toro Rosso and Mercedes have done their shakedowns, in Misano and Silversone.

Tifoso
24th January 2014, 18:01
So here is what we have so far except the Lotus. Front view comparison is maybe more interesting but I have to say they all look really nice from the side. All three is Mercedes powered if that could add some speculation about rear packaging, sidepods and cooling solutions.

http://oi44.tinypic.com/2vl3407.jpg


Holy Batmobile, Batman!

Avantifer12
24th January 2014, 18:07
Caterham has revealed a sound sample of the Renault V6 turbo being fired up. Short sample but my god sounds good, can't wait to hear our engine in the F14-T.
We should have a thread for some soothing engine music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cY2E3ZZr00#t=70

Ste
24th January 2014, 19:29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkMh_PCfWTo

Forzi
24th January 2014, 19:54
Sounds a bit better when in the car i guess.

bkircher
24th January 2014, 19:54
That actually doesn't sound bad.

yellowbird rs
24th January 2014, 20:40
any engine @ 10,000 + rpm sound great

Kyss4k
24th January 2014, 20:57
Looks like there's a lot of green on that Merc. The sound... well, I still prefer the V8's. This sounds ok, but way too similar to the engines from other racing series.

Ste
24th January 2014, 20:58
Here's an edit by someone of the MP4-29.

Simply painting the sides of the nose in black made a HUGE difference...

http://i42.tinypic.com/e029g7.jpg

Kyss4k
24th January 2014, 21:04
Here's an edit by someone of the MP4-29.

Simply painting the sides of the nose in black made a HUGE difference...

http://i42.tinypic.com/e029g7.jpg

I like them both.

Suzie
24th January 2014, 21:31
I don't mind the look of that McLaren and its big nostrils. If anything to me, the lack of red now is stranger than the nose.
Feel bad for Jenson, it must have been tough having to do press and put a smile on for the cameras today.

Forzi
24th January 2014, 21:34
Looks awfully like a Mercedes without the red. Must admit, had a few moments today when i thought that Mercedes had introduced their car today :lol

Tobes
24th January 2014, 22:54
Here's an edit by someone of the MP4-29.

Simply painting the sides of the nose in black made a HUGE difference...

The photoshopped one reminds me of the MP4-21 with the anteater nose...

redkid
24th January 2014, 23:29
It seems like everything in Mclaren looks different this year...F1 car looks like a Merc and Martin Whitmarsh looks like Eric Boullier:Hmm

Car looks good though.Im so excited to see how our F14 T looks like.Forza Ferrari!

RockyRaccoon
25th January 2014, 00:16
I saw this pretty stunning livery over on F1 Technical, makes a massive difference for the Mclaren that currently looks like a Merc!

5665

abbottcostello
25th January 2014, 03:49
I also like those big "nostrils" rather than trying to hide things in the shadows like the photoshopped version. Seems to give the illusion of a wider stance.

SS454
25th January 2014, 04:21
I saw this pretty stunning livery over on F1 Technical, makes a massive difference for the Mclaren that currently looks like a Merc!

5665

That looks amazing! The old West McLaren's were rather pretty to be honest.

Nova
25th January 2014, 04:54
I like both Mac pix, Lotus, not so much.
Bring it on Ferrari...

Hornet
25th January 2014, 06:08
Is Vodafone no longer sponsoring McLaren? Their car looks like Mercedes being silver only, lol.

diego_alunan
25th January 2014, 07:22
^ i believe the vodafone contract had expired.. reports say that they (mclaren) are financially stable enough and doesnt need a big sponsor for this season like what vodafone..
they still have their smaller sponsors like tag heur , hugo.. etc..

stefa
25th January 2014, 08:29
5 more hours :-)

ManFromMilan
25th January 2014, 09:19
Looks awfully like a Mercedes without the red. Must admit, had a few moments today when i thought that Mercedes had introduced their car today :lol




It sure did, especially with the 360degree look-around of the car.

@Ste- it really looks much better with the sides painted black imo.

Rob
25th January 2014, 09:24
Is Vodafone no longer sponsoring McLaren? Their car looks like Mercedes being silver only, lol.

My understanding is we may hear soon about new title sponsor. Vodafone pulled plug on alot of their major sporting sponsors. They did on 888 Engineering V8 Supercar team, now the Red Bull Australia :furious

Rob
25th January 2014, 09:25
Mclaren should of gone with the orange colour from couple years ago they ran in testing.

fratelliferrari
25th January 2014, 09:32
Just 4 hours now :-)

Forzi
25th January 2014, 09:39
Mclaren should of gone with the orange colour from couple years ago they ran in testing.

Think they said it's not yet decided. They said they'll go silver for the upcoming tests, like the Williams, but even the orange color is still an open discusion later on.

Ste
25th January 2014, 09:46
Think they said it's not yet decided. They said they'll go silver for the upcoming tests, like the Williams, but even the orange color is still an open discusion later on.

There won't be any Orange now that Ronald is back.

Forzi
25th January 2014, 09:50
Tobias Grüner F1 ‏@tgruener 22h
Heard the new McLaren MP4-29 will be silver as usual - at least during winter tests. But orange-discussion not over yet.

Though i really don't care much, i'd still prefer orange just for something new and noticable on the grid :-)

chandran2313
25th January 2014, 09:56
5 more hours :-)

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/305743/ferrari-set-to-launch-f14-t/

Hope Ferrari makes all of us proud!!! Forza Ferrari.:thumb

Giambattista
25th January 2014, 10:01
I wonder is there any TV channel that will broadcast this presentation? I'd love to watch it, can be Italian one, I don't care

Rob
25th January 2014, 10:05
Just under 3.5 hours left....

http://f14t.ferrari.com/en/

stefa
25th January 2014, 11:05
Looks like there's a lot of green on that Merc. The sound... well, I still prefer the V8's. This sounds ok, but way too similar to the engines from other racing series.

I just heard it. I was thinking what to say, when I read your post. EXACTLY!!!

Hornet
25th January 2014, 11:56
Just under 3.5 hours left....

http://f14t.ferrari.com/en/

Thanks. Glad there's a counter, have to make sure I don't miss it from wrong time conversion.:-D

Petronius
25th January 2014, 11:59
It seems like everything in Mclaren looks different this year...F1 car looks like a Merc and Martin Whitmarsh looks like Eric Boullier:Hmm

Car looks good though.Im so excited to see how our F14 T looks like.Forza Ferrari!

Winning car becomes beautiful, beautiful car is not automatically a winner, but if it does it's classic.

abbottcostello
25th January 2014, 12:51
40 minutes, MUST make coffee! :lou :-bounce :dance

Kyss4k
25th January 2014, 12:52
Hmm
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SdkCSADNXBk/UuOQoj9ojXI/AAAAAAAAFGI/FJMYCYg3SM8/s1600/mercedes+gp+w05+2014+car.jpg

Ste
25th January 2014, 12:57
Hmm
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SdkCSADNXBk/UuOQoj9ojXI/AAAAAAAAFGI/FJMYCYg3SM8/s1600/mercedes+gp+w05+2014+car.jpg

Just a render by MercAMGF1Fans

Kyss4k
25th January 2014, 13:00
Just a render by MercAMGF1Fans

Ok :lou

Anrasp
25th January 2014, 13:26
Anyone have a link to the live launch ?

Kyss4k
25th January 2014, 13:27
Anyone have a link to the live launch ?

http://f14t.ferrari.com/en/#countdown

Hornet
25th January 2014, 13:32
Has the video started for anyone?

I'm not seeing any video although the countdown ends

Katu
25th January 2014, 13:33
Has the video started for anyone?

I'm not seeing any video although the countdown ends

refresh the page

Hornet
25th January 2014, 13:36
refresh the page

Ah, thanks

No live presentation then, just a promo video :Hmm

Nathan
25th January 2014, 13:39
Have live presentations fallen out of favour with F1 car reveals? None of the teams this year have done one

Kiwi Nick
25th January 2014, 13:41
That's a bit disappointing.

Nova
25th January 2014, 13:54
Whoa...If the fia was trying to bring back the look of the low nose era in F1, they did booboo.
Side view is very nice. Its interesting to see all of the nose ideas that are coming out. Ferrari's is
different than all Ive seen so far. The last 1/4 of the car is black, but I dont think it will stay that way.
Appears they may be trying to show as little as possible. Can anyone tell what kind of front susp that is?
Well boys n girls, thar she be..

Sianellen
25th January 2014, 13:54
A photoshop someone did of the Mclaren with a classic livery. I think it makes the car look pretty good.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bez82NaCQAEOFEU.jpg:large

Nova
25th January 2014, 13:58
Yes the Mac does look good painted that way. Many people are expecting a traditional looking F1 car,
ie: cars that look like F1 cars, but Im afraid the aero rules arent going to take us that way. After the nosejobs Ive seen that last coupla years, Im missing them too.

abbottcostello
25th January 2014, 13:58
Whoa...If the fia was trying to bring back the look of the low nose era in F1, they did booboo.
Side view is very nice. Its interesting to see all of the nose ideas that are coming out. Ferrari's is
different than all Ive seen so far. The last 1/4 of the car is black, but I dont think it will stay that way.
Appears they may be trying to show as little as possible. Can anyone tell what kind of front susp that is?
Well boys n girls, thar she be..
Ferrari has stayed with the pull rod front & rear
"...the obvious areas of continuity are the pull-rod front and rear suspension."

abbottcostello
25th January 2014, 14:01
What exactly do people mean when they say "traditional"? I've seen some Ugly, with a capital U cars over the years, like 1978 to '80, cars looked like a beetle with a funny wing attached to the front!

Hornet
25th January 2014, 14:01
Have live presentations fallen out of favour with F1 car reveals? None of the teams this year have done one

Perhaps due to the huge change in regulations, teams do not want to reveal their cars too early. They try to keep it as close to winter testing as they could, and by now, they are probably on their way to the test venue for next week test session.

Aussie
25th January 2014, 20:28
My understanding is we may hear soon about new title sponsor. Vodafone pulled plug on alot of their major sporting sponsors. They did on 888 Engineering V8 Supercar team, now the Red Bull Australia :furious

Same as our awesome Australian cricket team Vodafone pulled out the company is going broke I hear.

Rob
25th January 2014, 20:32
Same as our awesome Australian cricket team Vodafone pulled out the company is going broke I hear.

Yeah, they trying to safe, alot, of money. Didnt know they sponsored them, i dont follow cricket. So no idea what teams good and bad. :-??:oops

ManFromMilan
25th January 2014, 20:36
, i dont follow cricket.



Well the way the Ashes went i don't blame you:-D

Rob
25th January 2014, 20:37
Well the way the Ashes went i don't blame you:-D

i have had to google it. :oops

Aussie
25th January 2014, 20:45
Well the way the Ashes went i don't blame you:-D

Next up South Africa.

Aussie
25th January 2014, 20:46
i have had to google it. :oops

It's a good game but hard to understand if u don't know it

ManFromMilan
25th January 2014, 22:41
Next up South Africa.




:clap

FERRARI-0000
26th January 2014, 04:17
The F14
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Kyss4k
26th January 2014, 14:11
http://www.f1.sk/obrazky/73/73361.jpg
http://c841724.r24.cf3.rackcdn.com/obrazky/73/73362.jpg

tifosi1993
26th January 2014, 14:30
So another Ferrari-powered car with slim sidepods.

Hornet
26th January 2014, 14:30
@ScarbsF1 12m
Sauber pointed roll hoop and small sidepod inlet

Looks like Ferrari may have found a more efficient cooling for the engine :-D

tifosi1993
26th January 2014, 14:34
F14-T esque double pylon to support rear wing.

Jose-Lorca Fan
26th January 2014, 14:38
That Sauber looks very nice but only two photos released which is a shame.

Suzie
26th January 2014, 15:05
Looks like the nicest car thus far. Pity their driver line-up this year is fairly uninspiring.

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AfterLife
26th January 2014, 15:53
Sauber has done a better job compare to other finger cars. So ... Well done:thumb

Rosso Corsa
26th January 2014, 16:07
Does anyone know which building the photo of the Sauber was taken in? And why the top part of that building is on springs?

stefa
26th January 2014, 16:33
From the side photos new Sauber looks nice and slim. I would like to see full frontal view....

hudson77
26th January 2014, 16:35
Does anyone know which building the photo of the Sauber was taken in? And why the top part of that building is on springs?

I also noticed that. Am going to guess at it being at Hinwii, where Sauber have its windtunnel. Certainly looks like it could possibly be that. And the building on springs would be the control room. On springs to dampen any vibrations from windtunnel motors?? Am only guessing here :-)

stefa
26th January 2014, 16:40
Interesting text with pictures about "ugly" designs in F1 through time :-)

http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/142839.html

Rosso Corsa
26th January 2014, 17:02
I also noticed that. Am going to guess at it being at Hinwii, where Sauber have its windtunnel. Certainly looks like it could possibly be that. And the building on springs would be the control room. On springs to dampen any vibrations from windtunnel motors?? Am only guessing here :-)

Thanks Hudson. You were right, good guess - http://www.sauberf1team.com/en/corporate/third-party-business/

I think the springs take out vibration/resonance from the big blowy pipe that the 'block' is supporting. Big blowy pipe is of course the technical term.

SS454
26th January 2014, 17:04
I think that Sauber photo is either photoshopped or rendered. This day in age you can't even trust whats real and what's not. I am sure it's official from Sauber, but I don't believe it is a real photograph.

Rishu
26th January 2014, 17:38
Aesthetically, Sauber looks the best so far