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Avantifer12
17th February 2014, 19:21
Nearly three weeks have gone since the first pre-season test got green lights in Jerez and now the teams prepare for the second test in Bahrain which will be a very interesting test where we will see aero, engine updates and some more hints about how the pecking order will look like when we arrive in Melbourne.

Here is the live timing I will rely on (feel free to add to the list)
http://live.autosport.com/
http://www.f1today.net/en/Testsessies

For general and detailed pictures of the cars I will check out these sites:
http://www.formule1.nl/media-library/images/overview/
http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/-F1-Photos-.html
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1-606153.html
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/category/pictures/

The driver line-up:

Red Bull Racing
Wednesday: Sebastian Vettel
Thursday: Sebastian Vettel
Friday: Daniel Ricciardo
Saturday: Daniel Ricciardo

Mercedes
Wednesday: Lewis Hamilton
Thursday: Nico Rosberg
Friday: Lewis Hamilton
Saturday: Nico Rosberg

Ferrari
Wednesday: Fernando Alonso
Thursday: Fernando Alonso
Friday: Kimi Räikkönen
Saturday: Kimi Räikkönen

Lotus
Wednesday: Romain Grosjean
Thursday: Romain Grosjean
Friday: Pastor Maldonado
Saturday: Pastor Maldonado

McLaren
Wednesday: Kevin Magnussen
Thursday: Kevin Magnussen
Friday: Jenson Button
Saturday: Jenson Button

Force India
Wednesday: Nico Hülkenberg
Thursday: Nico Hülkenberg
Friday: Sergio Pérez
Saturday: Sergio Pérez

Sauber
Wednesday: Adrian Sutil
Thursday: Esteban Gutierrez
Friday: Esteban Gutierrez
Saturday: Adrian Sutil

Scuderia Toro Rosso
Wednesday: Daniil Kvyat
Thursday: Daniil Kvyat
Friday: Jean-Eric Vergne
Saturday: Jean-Eric Vergne

Williams
Wednesday: Felipe Massa
Thursday: Valtteri Bottas
Friday: Felipe Massa
Saturday: Valtteri Bottas

Marussia
Wednesday: Jules Bianchi
Thursday: Max Chilton
Friday: Max Chilton
Saturday: Jules Bianchi

Caterham
Wednesday: Robin Frijns
Thursday: Kamui Kobayashi
Friday: Marcus Ericsson
Saturday: Kamui Kobayashi

Module
17th February 2014, 19:28
Great OP! :thumb

Looking forward to mpre info on Renaults situation and new parts for F14T

Nero Horse
17th February 2014, 19:58
Ferrari
TBC

So Kimi's participation isn't certain yet?

Anyway, looking forward to the test and real excited to see what our boys have come up with. :-)

Katu
17th February 2014, 20:08
Hurray!!!
i don't think Kimi's participation is in question, rather who drives on which day

mirafiori
17th February 2014, 20:32
Cant wait for testing come on Ferrari make us happy again and give us fans a winning car.:clap

Greig
17th February 2014, 20:38
Strange we have not confirmed who is driving.

Jose-Lorca Fan
17th February 2014, 21:22
It is strange, maybe the rumours about Kimi's back are true?

abbottcostello
17th February 2014, 23:06
Nice info Avantifer12, good to see all the driver lineups & links to sites all in one place!

It is always nice to see our cars have a good pace & by good I mean fastest :lol. I will be happier though to have a productive session with the team learning the maximum about the car & turning up any shortcomings there may be, so there will be plenty of time to fine tune things.

Let the mercs have all the attention in test sessions, just bring the results ( :cflag ) in Melbourne!!

Kingdom Hearts
18th February 2014, 04:33
It should be Alonso first and Kimi second. I seriously doubt Kimi will miss it.

RedRebel40
18th February 2014, 07:12
Strange we have not confirmed who is driving.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BgtMkBJCUAA6oxf.png

Senna4Ever
18th February 2014, 08:14
Personal mood of next test session can be summed up with one word: excited ...

7mi
18th February 2014, 08:26
Have not seen any pictures yet, can`t wait to see our car on track.

Hornet
18th February 2014, 12:01
This track will be the real test for all reliability. Lets hope the F14T will make it through unscratched :pray



Bahrain test begins Wednesday: Alonso to start

Sakhir, 18 February –Scuderia Ferrari is now in Bahrain and team personnel are preparing the garage at the Sakhir circuit, where the second pre-season test gets underway tomorrow. There are four days of track action, running up to Saturday.

With the track located on the edge of the desert, temperatures are ideal for testing, currently hovering around the 20 degree mark. Less pleasant is the wind which is blowing hard today, bringing quite a bit of sand onto the track. One cannot therefore expect to see any particularly fast times on the first day, as the surface will be rather dirty. Fernando Alonso will be first on track for Scuderia Ferrari, running on the first two days, before handing over to Kimi Raikkonen for Friday and Saturday.

The emphasis over the next four days will be mainly on checking all the systems and control parameters of the F14 T. In addition, the programme will include set-up work, helped by the fact that Sakhir is a more representative circuit for comparing the data obtained over the past few days in the simulator, as well on the tyre front. The engineers will also be relying on the expertise of Alonso and Raikkonen to move forward with the development of the car. Finally, great attention will be paid to the behaviour of the 059/3 power unit, which has been the focus of a lot of work in the last few weeks. In fact, the power unit has to be presented to the FIA to be signed off as homologated by 28 February.


http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/bahrain-test-begins-wednesday-alonso-start

Jas
18th February 2014, 13:12
F1 tyre supplier Pirelli has confirmed that it will be bringing additional rubber to this week's group test in Bahrain.

The second official four-day session of the year takes place in the desert between Wednesday and Saturday this week [19-22 February], and the Bahrain International Circuit will also host the third and final test later this month. The warm ambient conditions of around 20 degrees or more are set to provide a marked contrast to the first test of the year in Jerez, which featured low temperatures and rain, and all eleven F1 teams are expected to be present, after Lotus opted not to travel to Spain.

As they continue to optimise the interaction between their radical new cars – with 1.6-litre turbocharged engines and advanced energy recuperation systems – and the latest generation of Pirelli tyres, which feature new compounds and constructions this year, the squads will look to improve both reliability and performance, with the BIC providing a wide variety of speeds and corners with high longitudinal demands that address most aspects of a tyre's behaviour.

“The first test of the year in Jerez was all about the teams getting their first taste of a very different set of technical regulations so, as expected, running was limited and evaluating tyres was not a priority,” Pirelli's motorsport director Paul Hembery confirmed, “On top of that, winter conditions in Europe – even in southern Spain – are not representative of the race conditions we will generally encounter throughout the rest of the season. In Bahrain, we're expecting better weather and more running, which will allow ourselves and the teams to assimilate more data and knowledge of the tyres.”

While teams will be allowed 30 sets of tyres apiece for the Bahrain test - from an overall maximum of 135 sets for all testing this year – they will have to split these between the various slick compounds on offer. Three types of slick will be available at BIC - hard, medium and soft – although, on top of this, the drivers will also be able to test the 'winter hard' compound, which Pirelli created to ensure a rapid warm-up even at low temperatures.

The teams have asked to try this tyre, originally designed for use at Jerez, in Bahrain in order to assess how it performs in higher ambient temperatures. The 'winter' version will be recognisable by having no sidewall markings, whereas the 'standard' 2014 hard carries orange colouring.

Pirelli is also bringing an extra set of medium tyres per team to Bahrain. While these will have the usual 2014 construction and compound, they are actually considered to be 'prototypes' as their purpose is to test tyre behaviour without warming blankets, which will be banned from 2015 onwards.

Of the 30 sets at each team's disposal this week, 22 sets of the four slick options - hard, winter hard, medium and soft – have been selected by Pirelli in accordance with the teams. The remaining eight sets are chosen by the teams themselves, in order to suit their individual run plans.

Jose Lorca
18th February 2014, 13:15
WHO IS FASTEST?

Mercedes emerged as the star turn of the Jerez test, not because of its outright pace but because of reliability and engine performance.

Crucially, it was the only team to complete a proper race simulation, with Nico Rosberg managing to go five laps beyond the 69-lap race distance at Jerez.

While this put the marque's works team, and Mercedes-powered Williams, Force India and McLaren, in an encouraging position only in Bahrain will the watching world start to see any hint of a competitive order.

Ferrari also showed well, particularly with the apparent drivability of its power unit, meaning that the Scuderia could also emerge as a pacesetter in Bahrain.

As for the Renault teams, their struggles in Spain mean that there is significant room for improvement. If the engines run well in Bahrain, the teams' so-far unseen potential will also begin to emerge.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112548

Nero Horse
18th February 2014, 17:49
Oh shoot, I'm almost as nervous and excited as before a race weekend lol. Hopefully this will be a very successful test for us. Come on guys!!!

:ferrarifl

voiko
18th February 2014, 20:33
so pumped for this!!!!

Jose-Lorca Fan
18th February 2014, 21:15
so pumped for this!!!!

lol it's only a testing session.
I'm eager to see the new aero upgrades that Ferrari are going to bring to this test. Oh and they'll probably try to run the engines at full revs for the first time. There are also some power-unit upgrades but won't be visible to the naked eye.

mirafiori
18th February 2014, 22:00
Forza Ferrari, best of luck for testing:ferrarifl

Avantifer12
18th February 2014, 22:02
Oh and they'll probably try to run the engines at full revs for the first time.

We can hope they will. After watched this slight outdated video (pre Jerez) with Scarbs and Peter Windsor talking about 2014 power units I'm not convinced they ever will run at 15.000RPM so full revs is a question of definition. Interesting "whisper" Peter mention at 7:45 that one engine manufacturer says that 15.000 RPM coincides with the worst possible vibration of the engine. cough *Renault*


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVPQ3hu7ssw&feature=youtu.be&t=7m4s

PadGeT
19th February 2014, 00:48
A strong showing by ferrari today gonna be the best b'day present for me:-D
Mid-sems starting tho... gonna miss most of da action today:ouch
Make us proud James Allison & co.:rock

Hornet
19th February 2014, 03:53
A strong showing by ferrari today gonna be the best b'day present for me:-D
Mid-sems starting tho... gonna miss most of da action today:ouch
Make us proud James Allison & co.:rock

Happy Birthday :cheers

Kingdom Hearts
19th February 2014, 05:41
9:00 CET?.

fronaldo
19th February 2014, 05:46
I know it's still early but is there will be live coverage for last test? i mean live streaming

Hornet
19th February 2014, 05:57
9:00 CET?.

6am GMT
Any minute now

tifosi1993
19th February 2014, 06:04
Good luck F14-T!

anialonso
19th February 2014, 06:07
And its Green..

Rishu
19th February 2014, 06:12
And its Green..

?

I heard the start has been delayed

anialonso
19th February 2014, 06:13
The start of today's test has been delayed.
:-s

jgdswaran
19th February 2014, 06:13
06:11 The start of today's test has been delayed.

jgdswaran
19th February 2014, 06:14
Due to what reason?

tifosi1993
19th February 2014, 06:18
Due to what reason?

Insufficient marshals :roll

Ste
19th February 2014, 06:24
http://i62.tinypic.com/1kzlc.jpg

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

anialonso
19th February 2014, 06:25
06:21 Ferrari clearly isn't expecting a big delay here. Fernando Alonso is sat in the F14 T and ready to go.
:clap

bluesilhouettes
19th February 2014, 06:27
06:18 The always-active Lotus Twitter account is claiming that we currently have insufficient marshals for the session to start. Another theory offered up by circuit staff was a one-word answer: "Teams..."

wacc
19th February 2014, 06:31
Some big aero rake on the back of the car already

jgdswaran
19th February 2014, 06:31
06:30 The course car is back from its circuit inspection and we have a green flag. As promised, the Lotus is the first car to head out.

Ste
19th February 2014, 06:32
Green light.

http://i60.tinypic.com/302vsbc.jpg

Ste
19th February 2014, 06:34
Disappointed to see a Renault powered car working... :D

jgdswaran
19th February 2014, 06:34
06:33 Stay calm, Lotus (or Renault) fans, it wasn't the Lotus that caused the red flag. Grosjean is back in the pits.

06:32 That didn't last long, we've already got a stoppage.

jgdswaran
19th February 2014, 06:35
06:34 The timing screens are suggesting that Alonso has stopped in the first half of the lap. All the other cars that left the pits when we went green have returned.

anialonso
19th February 2014, 06:36
The timing screens are suggesting that Alonso has stopped in the first half of the lap. All the other cars that left the pits when we went green have returned.
:-(

Ste
19th February 2014, 06:36
Green light again so I doubt it...

anialonso
19th February 2014, 06:38
Alonso has not returned to the pits..

tifosi1993
19th February 2014, 06:47
Lotus E22

http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/popup/sutton/2013/dms1419fe27.jpg

Ste
19th February 2014, 06:48
Looks like Lotus are blowing the rear wing?

anialonso
19th February 2014, 06:49
Snap-happy Straw has spotted a fluid trail in the pitlane that was left by "smokey Alonso" when he headed out earlier.

anialonso
19th February 2014, 06:49
Jennie Gow, BBC Radio 5 live pit-lane reporter
"Not for the first time, a Ferrari has broken down on its installation lap, as tended to happen in Jerez at the end of last month. Fernando Alonso made it into the second sector before stopping on track. At least he got out, though and he has managed to get his car back in to the garage."

Jose Lorca
19th February 2014, 06:51
http://i.imgur.com/QNWRrwN.png

Ste
19th February 2014, 06:51
Maybe Ferrari do it deliberately for some reason. Like a minimum/empty fuel test.

Edit. Then again...

bkircher
19th February 2014, 06:54
at the beginning of a test? i highly doubt that..

Jose Lorca
19th February 2014, 06:58
Scuderia Ferrari ‏@InsideFerrari 12s
Mappature aerodinamiche stamani. Aero mappings this morning. #F14T

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bg0Yt8QIYAEUDZR.jpg

f1tomi8
19th February 2014, 06:59
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bg0Yt8QIYAEUDZR.jpg:large
Aero mappings

piglett
19th February 2014, 07:00
I hope that's only a fluid leakage, and not the turbo burning oil! :pray
Anyone got a live timing website?

Ste
19th February 2014, 07:00
Ferrari don't seem particularly bothered with whatever happened.

Ste
19th February 2014, 07:02
I hope that's only a fluid leakage, and not the turbo burning oil! :pray
Anyone got a live timing website?

Literally in the first post.

anialonso
19th February 2014, 07:02
Alonso takes the Ferrari back out after causing that earlier red flag. The F14 T has a big aero sensor mounted in front of the left-rear wheel, and this time there is no sign of the smoke plume that trailed the car when it left the pits for the first time earlier.

finally..

Kyss4k
19th February 2014, 07:03
Ferrari don't seem particularly bothered with whatever happened.

Yeah, probably just a loose tube/pipe whatever.

tifosi1993
19th February 2014, 07:06
Sutil 1:42.849, 8 laps

anialonso
19th February 2014, 07:08
Sauber were able to drive straight out meaning the new engine must not be an issue for now..

Ste
19th February 2014, 07:13
I found this picture from a Williams Filming Day... http://i61.tinypic.com/2l8l18h.jpg

tifosi1993
19th February 2014, 07:15
http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/popup/sutton/2013/dms1419fe50.jpg
http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/popup/sutton/2013/dms1419fe51.jpg

bkircher
19th February 2014, 07:15
That is an awesome paint scheme for Williams!!! Very classy.

Rosso Corsa
19th February 2014, 07:19
New bodywork on the Ferrari

Ste
19th February 2014, 07:20
New bodywork on the Ferrari

Which bits?

medeni73
19th February 2014, 07:21
New bodywork on the Ferrari

Details, photos?

Rishu
19th February 2014, 07:21
New bodywork on the Ferrari

What changes do you notice?

tifosi1993
19th February 2014, 07:23
Hamilton 1:40.625

Rosso Corsa
19th February 2014, 07:24
Sorry guys. My comment was supposed to have a question mark at the end. Surface tablet keyboard playing up

Ste
19th February 2014, 07:25
Sorry guys. My comment was supposed to have a question mark at the end. Surface tablet keyboard playing up

Windoze... ;)

Jacquesvw
19th February 2014, 07:25
Sauber were able to drive straight out meaning the new engine must not be an issue for now..

What new engine, I don't recall anyone from Ferrari confirming that rumour.

FerrariFanBoii
19th February 2014, 07:26
That Williams looks nasty now.... The Blue was awesome, should have only had Martini colours gonna on side pods, but sponsors have what they want!!

piglett
19th February 2014, 07:31
Looks like a lot of rake for the F14-T.

anialonso
19th February 2014, 07:37
What new engine, I don't recall anyone from Ferrari confirming that rumour.

You can look into the development thread where a lot of sources said that Ferrari would bring a new upgraded engine

Rishu
19th February 2014, 07:42
So, where is Vettel? :-P

f1tomi8
19th February 2014, 07:43
Hamilton Mercedes GP W05 1:40.625 11 PIT
2. Alonso Ferrari F14 T 1:41.667 +1.042

medeni73
19th February 2014, 07:43
yes lot of rake on our car...

http://i.imgur.com/izrtQwI.jpg

fronaldo
19th February 2014, 07:47
Now Ferrari gets a message from race control saying that the transponder on Alonso's car has stopped working.

rossopervincere
19th February 2014, 07:48
It looks like there's a new element underneath the exhaust ontop of the diffuser ?

f1tomi8
19th February 2014, 07:48
http://img2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Ferrari-Formel-1-Test-Bahrain-19-Februar-2014-fotoshowBigImage-9cc5109f-755993.jpghttp://img2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Fernando-Alonso-Ferrari-Formel-1-Test-Bahrain-19-Februar-2014-fotoshowImage-948c05c0-756013.jpghttp://img2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Fernando-Alonso-Ferrari-Formel-1-Test-Bahrain-19-Februar-2014-fotoshowImage-9cea3d2d-756054.jpghttp://img2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Fernando-Alonso-Ferrari-Formel-1-Test-Bahrain-19-Februar-2014-fotoshowImage-af12ba4f-756016.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bg0j_WiCYAALplC.jpg:large

medeni73
19th February 2014, 07:49
we have quite a lot problems with sensors this year, in Jerez 2 times stopped cos of wrong sensor readings now this....

Alonsos laps lap 6 1:41:667, lap 7 1:41:889, lap 8 1:43:463, lap 9 1:41:115

tifosi1993
19th February 2014, 07:55
http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/popup/sutton/2013/dms1419fe64.jpg

f1tomi8
19th February 2014, 07:55
Return the pits
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bg0lpFdIMAAmzNx.jpg:large

Rishu
19th February 2014, 07:57
Looks like Bahrain is already prepared for night race

f1tomi8
19th February 2014, 08:00
Looks like Bahrain is already prepared for night race
for a long while

Hornet
19th February 2014, 08:03
Looks like a lot of rake for the F14-T.

Probably looks that way due to the car's roll as it goes around the corner. Notice the front wing's height from the ground, it's squatting to the right. A better way to see the rake would be when the car is going on a straight line.

Rob
19th February 2014, 08:04
Looks like Bahrain is already prepared for night race

Been done for awhile. At the WEC 6hrs last year. They had the lights on, but only i think 30%, and looked geat.

mirafiori
19th February 2014, 08:06
Good to see Sutil completing many laps so far for the development of the Ferrari engine.:clap

mirafiori
19th February 2014, 08:10
Look likes Renault engine cars maybe having issues? very little running so far.

tifosi1993
19th February 2014, 08:21
http://i.imgur.com/dFNLr5M.jpg

f1tomi8
19th February 2014, 08:27
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bg0rTmQCEAApYtw.jpg:large

tifosi1993
19th February 2014, 08:29
Hamilton 1:39.573

Edit: New FL 1:39.464

Hornet
19th February 2014, 08:30
Anyone heard news about what cause the smoke earlier on? :Hmm

Schumyboy83
19th February 2014, 08:32
Anyone heard news about what cause the smoke earlier on? :Hmm

I see on twitter oil overfill... How true, I don't know.. :Hmm

Stormsearcher
19th February 2014, 08:34
yes lot of rake on our car...

http://i.imgur.com/izrtQwI.jpg

Can someone explain this statement? What does it mean and if you can show it on the image it will be great! thanks. :-)

Hornet
19th February 2014, 08:38
I see on twitter oil overfill... How true, I don't know.. :Hmm

Thanks. Well as long as nothing burning, I'm glad.

wacc
19th February 2014, 08:41
Can someone explain this statement? What does it mean and if you can show it on the image it will be great! thanks. :-)

It is a difference between the front and rear ride height - the floor is forward tilt.
Also the measuring device on the left side of the car is called aero rake.

Rob
19th February 2014, 08:41
I see on twitter oil overfill... How true, I don't know.. :Hmm

;-)

SinanOzerS
19th February 2014, 08:43
Still no Red Bull or Toro Rosso :rotfl

Rob
19th February 2014, 08:46
Still no Red Bull or Toro Rosso :rotfl

They will be on track soon.:-G

08:46 Red Bull has just fired its Renault engine up, but it still has the car up on stands so it doesn't appear that we'll be getting a first lap of the day from the RB10 just yet.

Domo-kun
19th February 2014, 08:51
They will be on track soon.:-G
08:46 Red Bull has just fired its Renault engine up, but it still has the car up on stands so it doesn't appear that we'll be getting a first lap of the day from the RB10 just yet.

No, they won't, as stated in that quoted message.

Rosso Corsa
19th February 2014, 08:54
I've spotted an update on the Ferrari. The pitot tube on the nose is now shrouded by a vane :-D

Rob
19th February 2014, 08:55
No, they won't, as stated in that quoted message.

yes, i know, i put it as a laugh.

i edit my post and put in green tongue face.

Rob
19th February 2014, 08:58
I've spotted an update on the Ferrari. The pitot tube on the nose is now shrouded by a vane :-D

:thumb

like paying spot the difference. :lol

should get my little girl to look, as she likes playing that:lol

mirafiori
19th February 2014, 09:02
:thumb

like paying spot the difference. :lol

should get my little girl to look, as she likes playing that:lol

Or you could play spot the Renault engine cars.

Rob
19th February 2014, 09:03
Or you could play spot the Renault engine cars.

not good game, as there isnt any yet :-G

Rob
19th February 2014, 09:05
Red Bull Racing ‏@redbullracing 38s
Slight delay folks, the team's still fitting some parts. We've fired up and are hoping to be on track shortly. More updates to follow.


think they changing the batteries in the new smoke detectors.

Senna4Ever
19th February 2014, 09:05
Can someone explain this statement? What does it mean and if you can show it on the image it will be great! thanks. :-)

regarding 'rake' ... I think it refers to the big silver aero sensor on the left car side (looking into drive direction) which looks like raking the air ...

but my guess was wrong - mea culpa ... see below ...

LAROSA SpA
19th February 2014, 09:15
regarding 'rake' ... I think it refers to the big silver aero sensor on the left car side (looking into drive direction)

Rake is the relative ride hight between the front and rear axle (in this case the rear ride height is higher than the front)

Rob
19th February 2014, 09:16
09:14 More from EDD STRAW on the work going on in the Red Bull garage, part of what the team described on Twitter just now as a "slight delay".

It comes as little surprise to hear that Straw has spotted "work going on around the back" of the RB10. He adds that it "sounds like there might be some cutting or grinding equipment involved".

Sorry, we don't have a cutting or grinding icon...

more cooling issues? :Hmm already.

Domo-kun
19th February 2014, 09:19
09:14 More from EDD STRAW on the work going on in the Red Bull garage, part of what the team described on Twitter just now as a "slight delay".
It comes as little surprise to hear that Straw has spotted "work going on around the back" of the RB10. He adds that it "sounds like there might be some cutting or grinding equipment involved".

more cooling issues? :Hmm already.

Sounds like it. They fired up the engine for a sec, engine immediately went: "Nope, not having this, overheating.." and now they are trying to make more air intakes. :)

anialonso
19th February 2014, 09:29
Alo out nw..

PadGeT
19th February 2014, 09:35
Rake is the relative ride hight between the front and rear axle (in this case the rear ride height is higher than the front)

Probably to work the diffuser better as u get more air speeding into the diffuser volume
Red bull generally runs with a lot of rear rake

karvyin12
19th February 2014, 09:37
09:35 Seems there are still some transponder issues with Alonso's Ferrari, which is not appearing in all the sector times. The Spaniard is currently lapping in the 1m43s which is 2s shy of his best. (AutoSport)

anialonso
19th February 2014, 09:40
An achingly familiar scene for Sebastian Vettel as he sits outside the Red Bull hospitality building.

Red Bull had promised to be out soon a good few hours ago. I'm beginning to feel that when it comes to measuring a period of time, their definition of "soon" is frustratingly familiar to that of my wife's.
:rotfl

SinanOzerS
19th February 2014, 09:42
red flag.sutil has spun out.

anialonso
19th February 2014, 09:42
Red Flag

Turn 1 Sutil stopped at turn 1

anialonso
19th February 2014, 09:43
red flag.sutil has spun out.

i guess u mean Sutil..
EDIT:sorry..

karvyin12
19th February 2014, 09:44
Its Sutil who stopped

Ste
19th February 2014, 09:48
http://i61.tinypic.com/245ihxy.jpg

PadGeT
19th February 2014, 09:49
:rotfl

I hope they r referring to the ubiquitous lengthy time for dressing up for an occasion.. or is it a cheeky referral to bedroom activities :oops

f1tomi8
19th February 2014, 09:51
Meeting
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bg0-KlaCQAAmMuZ.jpg

emirBoz
19th February 2014, 09:54
According to Sky F1’s David Croft, Ferrari intend to “start to push parts to the limits of their durability” over the coming few days. Meanwhile, the plume of smoke spotted spewing out of the back of the F14 T on its first lap of the day has been attributed to a 'fuel mix' problem. Presumably that's F1 code for misidentifying the unleaded pump for the diesel.

Stormsearcher
19th February 2014, 09:57
It is a difference between the front and rear ride height - the floor is forward tilt.
Also the measuring device on the left side of the car is called aero rake.

Thanks a ton. Now i see it. :-)

Stormsearcher
19th February 2014, 09:58
Well ppl, we dont want RBR to have so much trouble that they dont run at all. Otherwise, there is a good chance horner and helmut will go crying to the FIA and run last years car or get the rules changed. Which wont work for us. So am hoping they atleast start running. I would be very happy if those engines blow up during the races. :-D

PadGeT
19th February 2014, 10:04
Well ppl, we dont want RBR to have so much trouble that they dont run at all. Otherwise, there is a good chance horner and helmut will go crying to the FIA and run last years car or get the rules changed. Which wont work for us. So am hoping they atleast start running. I would be very happy if those engines blow up during the races. :-D

I am more worried they are gonna keep developing their engine after 28th feb on grounds of reliability issues

f1tomi8
19th February 2014, 10:06
According to Sky, the column of smoke from the rear of the F14 T in the 1st round has been attributed to a problem of 'fuel mix'

slak
19th February 2014, 10:07
http://i61.tinypic.com/245ihxy.jpg

Look at that face. LOL

medeni73
19th February 2014, 10:07
AMuS: RB to hit the track in 30 minutes...people get your grill-meat ready... :)

piglett
19th February 2014, 10:19
According to Sky, the column of smoke from the rear of the F14 T in the 1st round has been attributed to a problem of 'fuel mix'

That's nonsence! That's oil smoke. Unless it's a two stroke v6 we're running, that can't be a fuel mix problem.

Bubbles
19th February 2014, 10:19
Wouldn't it be cool if the RB10 overheated even without the engine cover (bodywork)?

medeni73
19th February 2014, 10:22
"Craig Scarborough reported Renault will not be able to use full ERS-K power for rest of the tests, and probably Melbourne, and perhaps a few other races after".

if true Caterham will be lapping RB :)

f1tomi8
19th February 2014, 10:24
That's nonsence! That's oil smoke. Unless it's a two stroke v6 we're running, that can't be a fuel mix problem.

I think also.

Bubbles
19th February 2014, 10:24
At least the Renault V6 has a proper name - it's all about energy, or heat in this case...

piglett
19th February 2014, 10:25
Wouldn't it be cool if the RB10 overheated even without the engine cover (bodywork)?

That's not going to happen.However I think they'll soon be adding a cooling agent to that energy drink of theirs, for Renault owners and drivers woldwide. :rotfl

Ste
19th February 2014, 10:30
"Craig Scarborough reported Renault will not be able to use full ERS-K power for rest of the tests, and probably Melbourne, and perhaps a few other races after".

if true Caterham will be lapping RB :)

They have Renault engines too...

medeni73
19th February 2014, 10:31
But their package at least allows them to drive :)

Ste
19th February 2014, 10:32
http://i59.tinypic.com/2yvuh68.jpg

Rosso Corsa
19th February 2014, 10:40
Who's car is that Ste?

f1tomi8
19th February 2014, 10:40
http://i59.tinypic.com/2yvuh68.jpg
it doesn't look good

Salvador Dali
19th February 2014, 10:42
McLaren... :wave

f1tomi8
19th February 2014, 10:42
McLaren... :wave
too fast? :D

slak
19th February 2014, 10:43
I think a Ferrari.

It is the Mclaren

Forzi
19th February 2014, 10:44
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/02/19/mercedes-reveal-360-degree-video-w05/

This is just mind blowing.

Ste
19th February 2014, 10:46
Who's car is that Ste?

McLaren.

Rob
19th February 2014, 10:47
looks like the Mclaren exhaust is getting things bit warm at the rear...
http://i57.tinypic.com/t80zk0.jpg

raju6000
19th February 2014, 10:48
Red Bull coming out

Jas
19th February 2014, 10:48
time for some problems for mercades to happen me think

Jas
19th February 2014, 10:49
interesting monkey seat on that McLaren it must be said

PadGeT
19th February 2014, 10:51
looks like the Mclaren exhaust is getting things bit warm at the rear...
http://i57.tinypic.com/t80zk0.jpg

Whats dat on top of exhaust .. monkey seat is it? :Hmm

f1tomi8
19th February 2014, 10:52
interesting layout
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1797524_800129810015145_573363079_n.jpg

Rob
19th February 2014, 10:53
Lotus rear end, looks unfinished.:-E

tifosi1993
19th February 2014, 10:53
That cooling hole...:-E

Ste
19th February 2014, 10:54
Look at the cooling outlet on the Lotus! It's huge!

Forzi
19th February 2014, 10:56
Lotus rear end, looks unfinished.:-E

Yeah. Cooling looks like a massive overdone mess, no monkey seat, the diffuser looks primitive, exhaust gasses don't seem to be used at all for anything.

tifosi1993
19th February 2014, 10:56
No wonder Newey is unhappy.

Jas
19th February 2014, 10:57
Look at the cooling outlet on the Lotus! It's huge!

any pics?

evo_spook
19th February 2014, 10:58
interesting layout
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1797524_800129810015145_573363079_n.jpg



Surly the lotus is illegal, the exhaust has to exit central, that looks offset

Forzi
19th February 2014, 10:58
any pics?

There's a pic at the top of this page :-)

PadGeT
19th February 2014, 10:59
Lotus rear end, looks unfinished.:-E
With maldonado in Lotus looks to have kicked symmetry out for 2014 in both rear and front end ;-)

Ste
19th February 2014, 11:00
Surly the lotus is illegal, the exhaust has to exit central, that looks offset

It's positioned at the outermost point accepted in the regulations.

mizf1
19th February 2014, 11:00
How many laps has Alonso done now?

tifosi1993
19th February 2014, 11:02
How many laps has Alonso done now?

40

Ste
19th February 2014, 11:03
How many laps has Alonso done now?

40.

http://www.f1today.net/nl/live/2014/02/19/sakhir

karvyin12
19th February 2014, 11:04
11:02 Vettel sets a 'flying' lap, and by that we mean he's registered his first timed lap of the day. It's a 1m45.095s, nearly 7s adrift of Magnussen's pace at the front.
(Autosport)
First one after a long time...:pray... thank god it is done

mizf1
19th February 2014, 11:08
We need Marussia out there doing more laps. Once all Renault teams are up and running they can easily catch and surpass what mileage we have done with the new engine.

karvyin12
19th February 2014, 11:09
Why are we not doing Flying Laps? Are we sandbagging!!!....:Hmm

karvyin12
19th February 2014, 11:11
We need Marussia out there doing more laps. Once all Renault teams are up and running they can easily catch and surpass what mileage we have done with the new engine.

True. They are the ones missing in action.

mizf1
19th February 2014, 11:11
From Sky

"It looks like McLaren are using thermal reflective tape, to me that isn't body work issues just the tape has failed."

PadGeT
19th February 2014, 11:12
It's positioned at the outermost point accepted in the regulations.

Accoring to regs 2014: The last 150mm of any tailpipe must in its entirety : 1. Be located no more than 100mm from the car centre line.
2. Be positioned in order that the entire circumference of the exit of the tailpipe lies
between two vertical planes normal to the car centre line and which lie between
170mm and 185mm rearward of the rear wheel centre line

If its conforming with pt 1 den its okay

mizf1
19th February 2014, 11:14
I'm waiting to see pics of the rear of the Red bull, lets see if the cooling outlet is as big as the Lotus.

f1tomi8
19th February 2014, 11:15
Off
Kimi spin out with La Ferrari.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMDVMp3CbdY

Domo-kun
19th February 2014, 11:22
Off
Kimi spin out with La Ferrari.


Nothing new, he does that:

http://youtu.be/b2WKdmbVmG0?t=7m5s

(Around 7:05 in that vid..)

tifosi1993
19th February 2014, 11:22
Hamilton 1:37.908

mizf1
19th February 2014, 11:23
55 laps for Merc compared to 40 for us.

mizf1
19th February 2014, 11:24
Wonder what's wrong with Williams, only 3 laps

Ste
19th February 2014, 11:25
Wonder what's wrong with Williams, only 3 laps

Power problems.

Jas
19th February 2014, 11:25
surley having the exhaust like lotus not directly in the centre is bad for rear instability!

mizf1
19th February 2014, 11:27
Power problems.

Do you know if it's engine or electrical?

tifosi1993
19th February 2014, 11:27
GARY ANDERSON explains the scorching we saw on the rear of the McLaren earlier:

"By regulation, the back of the rear impact structure/rear light has to have its centre at 300mm high. With the exhaust pipe mounted on the centre line of the car and the minimum height defined in the regulations at 350mm, this is where most teams would want the exhaust outlet to help the diffuser. So it's no wonder that the top of the crash box gets a little scorched.

"Improved heat shielding will soon fix this, but I wonder if it would pass the rear impact test in this condition?"

mizf1
19th February 2014, 11:29
For the first few races we need to ensure we have a reliable car, no point having a fast car that does not make the race. Also if any team loses an engine at the start then it will severely hinder them towards the end of the year, as only 5 engines allowed now for the season.

f1tomi8
19th February 2014, 11:31
different Rear Wing, new Y100 Winglet / Monkey Seat & new rear brake ducts via@SomersF1
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bg1UX2wCcAAaE8S.jpg:large

PadGeT
19th February 2014, 11:35
different Rear Wing, new Y100 Winglet / Monkey Seat & new rear brake ducts via@SomersF1
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bg1UX2wCcAAaE8S.jpg:large

which car?

f1tomi8
19th February 2014, 11:35
which car?

Sauber

mizf1
19th February 2014, 11:44
Less then 3 hours left, we need to get some more productive laps in

f1tomi8
19th February 2014, 11:47
And 1 modified FW
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bg1aW9LCUAAbWvQ.jpg:large

Scuderia85
19th February 2014, 11:47
What are We doing??

mizf1
19th February 2014, 11:52
Toro Rosso making an appearance now

anuragiyer8989
19th February 2014, 11:56
What are We doing??

Ya, I'd like to know that as well? Been long since I've seen Lap timer showing "40" on Autosport!

OSS EL BOSS
19th February 2014, 11:57
Mercedes are looking very strong, Hamilton just ended a run of 18 laps that started with 1.37.908, the best laptime of the day so far.
They really seem to be ahead of all the other teams at this stage.

Hornet
19th February 2014, 11:59
Not much running by Ferrari? :Hmm

Ste
19th February 2014, 11:59
I think we were having lunch. They tweeted saying "40 laps this morning".

f1tomi8
19th February 2014, 12:00
Sakhir 19 February -The first day of testing is underway at Bahrain’s Sakhir circuit for Scuderia Ferrari and the ten other Formula 1 teams. Before the team stopped for lunch, the F14 T with Fernando Alonso at the wheel, did 40 laps. The Spaniard’s best time so far is a 1.40.694, the fifth fastest, although performance was not a priority on the team’s agenda. The session got off to a delayed start, as not all the marshals were in position, so today’s running is being extended to 17h30 to make up for the 30 minutes lost. Air temperature is a constant 25 degrees, while there is still quite a strong wind blowing. This morning’s programme focused on system checks, aerodynamic measurements, car set-up and work on the brake by wire system, ending with a few practice starts from the pit lane.

In the afternoon, there will be more work linked to fine tuning the car, as well as the usual tyre evaluation tasks.

- See more at: http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/40-laps-alonso-morning#sthash.WjreonhR.dpuf

mizf1
19th February 2014, 12:02
I think we were having lunch. They tweeted saying "40 laps this morning".

There is no time for lunch, every lap is crucial data.

Scuderia85
19th February 2014, 12:04
Tanks for The update

Rosso Corsa
19th February 2014, 12:04
A weird bulge on the cockpit left side of the McLaren.

http://en.espnf1.com/PICTURES/CMS/23000/23021.jpg

PadGeT
19th February 2014, 12:08
5722

f1tomi8
19th February 2014, 12:15
A weird bulge on the cockpit left side of the McLaren.

http://en.espnf1.com/PICTURES/CMS/23000/23021.jpg

http://img1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Kevin-Magnussen-McLaren-Formel-1-Test-Bahrain-19-Februar-2014-fotoshowBigImage-8a1929b9-755975.jpg[QUOTE=Rosso Corsa;825966]A weird bulge on the cockpit left side of the McLaren.

PadGeT
19th February 2014, 12:19
Hulk with 1m36.953s :-E

Domo-kun
19th February 2014, 12:19
12:15 Another improvement at the top for Hulkenberg, and his 1m36.953s makes him the first driver to beat the 2013 Bahrain GP fastest lap in a 2014 car.


Well, at least there's no more of that "WOE F1 cars are slower than GP2 cars!" after this.. :)

Rosso Corsa
19th February 2014, 12:20
That's interesting on the McLaren. I wonder why the cable runs all the way from the bulge to the tip of the nose? What have they got in there then?

Majki2111
19th February 2014, 12:26
They still having lunch??? They haven't moved for hours now.

f1tomi8
19th February 2014, 12:27
#F1 @Lotus_F1Team hits trouble: First a software issue, now a battery problem. Being replaced right now. Engineers hope for late run. via Amus

dfunk257
19th February 2014, 12:34
uuuum, wheres pics of our car? Anybody????

f1tomi8
19th February 2014, 12:42
The E22's nose caused a stir due to the asymmetric protrusions. But the rear end also has a surprise, since there is asymmetry due to the exhaust is routed to the right slightly. The rear suspension is unique enter the amuse the upper rocker arm is extremely high, while the bottom is surprisingly low. The Spanish competition is supposed to be revised in the nose: There will be even less solid part of the nose between the two projections, carried all the way back to the first axis. With this they can divert more air under the car.

"A super car. The guys simply did not believe the data obtained in the wind tunnel. If you are hoping to bring the values ​​obtained in downforce will go a hell of a machine via Amus

Senna4Ever
19th February 2014, 12:56
Hamilton almost covered a race distance so far: 74 ... very impressive
followed by Sutil (58) and :-E Frijns in a Caterham (52)

maybe our Pasta tastes so superb today that we just don't want to go back to work ...

tifosi1993
19th February 2014, 13:00
Alonso on track...Finally!

fronaldo
19th February 2014, 13:00
Alonso out now

tifosi1993
19th February 2014, 13:04
Hulk 1:36.880

tifosi1993
19th February 2014, 13:05
Alonso 1:39.628

Domo-kun
19th February 2014, 13:07
Alonso 1:39.628

And Vettel following closely..
4 Alonso Ferrari 1m39.628s +2.748
5 Vettel Red Bull 1m40.224s +3.344

Dang..

Schumiklub
19th February 2014, 13:09
Aand Alonso is in the pits again...

Hornet
19th February 2014, 13:10
@RachelBrookesTV
Another red flag, looks like Vettel this time stopped on track... 13 laps so far today

OSS EL BOSS
19th February 2014, 13:10
Another red flag!

raju6000
19th February 2014, 13:10
Red flag -Vettel

Domo-kun
19th February 2014, 13:10
Oh you Renault....

13:08 The timing screens seem a little confused as to which sector Vettel is in at the moment, so could it be the Red Bull that has caused this stoppage?
13:08 As Magnussen makes it back to the pits, that means every car has returned except Vettel's...

So, fast lap and burnout.. Like Toro Rosso..

tifosi1993
19th February 2014, 13:11
Renault..:rotfl

SinanOzerS
19th February 2014, 13:13
Vettel :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl

raju6000
19th February 2014, 13:14
At this rate Red Bull should be happy if they finish Oz Gp, nevermind scoring points.

Rob
19th February 2014, 13:15
i know its a bit funny about RBRs and Renaults woes, but please remember that it could/may still happen to us.

Kiwi Nick
19th February 2014, 13:16
http://i61.tinypic.com/245ihxy.jpg

Mutiny?

fronaldo
19th February 2014, 13:18
Just hope we have trouble-free this season

mizf1
19th February 2014, 13:18
i know its a bit funny about RBRs and Renaults woes, but please remember that it could/may still happen to us.

That is why we just need to concentrate on ourselves and follow our own progamme.

Domo-kun
19th February 2014, 13:19
BUT, as Autosport just stated:



13:14 The lap Vettel was on looks to have been around 2-2.5 seconds down on Hulkenberg's best before the Red Bull stopped. Vettel is currently 3.3s off the pace overall.


Anyhow, it is not going to be an easy year for Red Bull, but not for Ferrari either IF we just look at the times and the overall performance given so far by Mercedes-powered teams..

mizf1
19th February 2014, 13:20
I think Red Bull were slowly turning the wick up on the engine and seems like they found the threshold

Senna4Ever
19th February 2014, 13:21
i know its a bit funny about RBRs and Renaults woes, but please remember that it could/may still happen to us.

:thumb
absolutely right ....
this testing might give indication but still a long way to go until Australia ... so still much water that will run down the river!

And todays performance until now doesn't give me a big confidence that we will be front row runners ...

Ste
19th February 2014, 13:21
Everyone was saying how quick the Mercedes was this morning when Hamilton was on a 1m39. Then Hulkenberg came out and went 2 seconds quicker. Just shows that times mean nothing.

Ste
19th February 2014, 13:23
Look at the rear left tyre.

http://i57.tinypic.com/2u95mhw.jpg

mizf1
19th February 2014, 13:23
5723

Look at that rear tyre

SinanOzerS
19th February 2014, 13:24
Look at the rear left tyre.

http://i57.tinypic.com/2u95mhw.jpg

Front right also.

OSS EL BOSS
19th February 2014, 13:25
It looks like a spin.

Ste
19th February 2014, 13:25
http://i59.tinypic.com/a2fxjs.jpg

Hornet
19th February 2014, 13:27
Everyone was saying how quick the Mercedes was this morning when Hamilton was on a 1m39. Then Hulkenberg came out and went 2 seconds quicker. Just shows that times mean nothing.

Although that's true, one important thing about lap times is when you push the lap times, you're pushing the car. I think the general impression at the moment is that the Merc engine runners are not only stacking up the lap counts, but they seem to be pushing their car that little step further while getting all the laps done. I'd say it's pretty impressive at least in terms of reliability.

Rob
19th February 2014, 13:27
5723

Look at that rear tyre

and the front right.

Schumyboy83
19th February 2014, 13:28
At first look I didnt spot the front and thought maybe gearbox lock up or engine failure, But that now looks like a spin out...

Rob
19th February 2014, 13:29
Everyone was saying how quick the Mercedes was this morning when Hamilton was on a 1m39. Then Hulkenberg came out and went 2 seconds quicker. Just shows that times mean nothing.

exactly mate, will all the media now say Hulkenberg will win the WDC?:roll

medeni73
19th February 2014, 13:29
it would be nice to get a look at top speeds cos it would tell us if Ferrari still runs in 80% mode...

tifosi1993
19th February 2014, 13:29
Looks to me the engine seized at high speed corner and threw him into a spin...that's why his tires are flatspotted like that.

mizf1
19th February 2014, 13:31
Looks to me the engine seized at high speed corner and threw him into a spin...that's why his tires are flatspotted like that.

I thought the same, engine seizure

evo_spook
19th February 2014, 13:32
Engine failure causing spin maybe


5724

mizf1
19th February 2014, 13:32
Ok ALO, go and bag as many laps as you can in the remaining 1 hour.

medeni73
19th February 2014, 13:33
ALO 1:37:879

tifosi1993
19th February 2014, 13:33
Alonso 1:37.879

mizf1
19th February 2014, 13:33
ALO 137.879

Ste
19th February 2014, 13:35
I thought the same, engine seizure
Sounds likely to me too.

tifosi1993
19th February 2014, 13:36
http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/popup/sutton/2013/dcd1419fe46.jpg

Sempre_Ferrari
19th February 2014, 13:36
Anyone know what the problem is with Marussia, see they've only done 2 laps?

Aruba
19th February 2014, 13:38
Anyone noticed any new parts/package on the Ferrari?

Frank Dhont
19th February 2014, 13:38
http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/popup/sutton/2013/dcd1419fe46.jpg

Now they make holes even in the tires to cool the engine!
And Hamilton has pitted, because hez is afraid of ALO.

Kiwi Nick
19th February 2014, 13:39
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/02/19/mercedes-reveal-360-degree-video-w05/

This is just mind blowing.

That is really cool. What a collection of sounds from the power unit!