Australian GP 2014 Qualifying thread

[EL_NANDO]

Not long to go now... Looks difficult to beat the Mercs but let's see!! :-)

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Hoping for a good show from our boys....

Forza Ferrari....:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl

[Nero Horse]

If it's going to rain, then that could turn everything upside down and we might even see a Caterham on pole lol :lol

But anyway, Forza Ferrari!!! Let's go try to make the best out of it.

:ferrarifl

[Majki2111]

Fernando indeed drove 7 thents quicker yesterday... Has Ferrari spoiled the setup and will they have time to change it?

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Fernando indeed drove 7 thents quicker yesterday... Has Ferrari spoiled the setup and will they have time to change it?

We may be preserving the race engine in FP3... once we turn up everything to it's maximum capacity we should be much closer...

[Majki2111]

We may be preserving the race engine in FP3... once we turn up everything to it's maximum capacity we should be much closer...The question is can we turn everything to max cause Ferrari said they strugle a bit with that.
Both Kimi and Fernando were loosing a lot of time in sector 2. Sector 1 was acually pretty good for Fernando and they were loosing time, but not as much as in sector 2, in sector 3.

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The question is can we turn everything to max cause Ferrari said they strugle a bit with that.

For Quali, we may be able to. For race it might not be that easy.

[Cozza]

Thunder and rain 1 hour North West of Melbourne. No clue which way its going.

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Marc Gené said that in this session all cars would show their true pace. Not race setup. Ferrari was not going to pay attention to any fuel consume indicators...

[Hornet]

Fernando indeed drove 7 thents quicker yesterday... Has Ferrari spoiled the setup and will they have time to change it?

Hard to make a comparison as the conditions seems to be different. Merc looks happier today, while many others less so, including Vettel.

But there's more than enough time for the team to carry out setup changes if needed to.

[fronaldo]

Just hope both our drivers in top 5

[brava]

Now we'll see the pecking order.
Let's hope we are high up there. Even if the car could be a bit slower, our two best drivers should make up for the difference.

[tifosi1993]

FORZA FERRARI

:ferrarifl

(I just hope they're in the ballpark. That's all.)

[Hornet]

Best of luck

[Nero Horse]

Ok, here we go...first quali of 2014.

Forza Ferrari!!!!!

[Katu]

nice weather

[Kyss4k]

nice weather

Yea, hope they are ready to take a "swim".

[anakin]

after a long wait. here we go.

[stefa]

Wind is very strong

[LivingHitokiri]

Lets go TEAM!

[fratelliferrari]

Iam so nervous :pray Forza Ferrari:ferrarifl

[Winter]

Here we go!

[Katu]

Scuderia Ferrari ‏@InsideFerrari 1m

#FerrariAUSGP Luce verde. Piloti Ferrari in pista su Medium. Green lights. Ferrari drivers out on Mediums.

[Kyss4k]

Omg, no rain now pls :pray

[wacc]

Did not Fernando say something about strategic errors? And look, they are a bit confused with the tyres.

[fratelliferrari]

Bieber hits the wall

[Uzair Ahmed]

We out on softs now

[SinanOzerS]

ing Lotus.

[bogs1207]

Rain coming

[Katu]

uh, that was close

[Winter]

No Rain ow!

[fratelliferrari]

Rain now luckily Fernando just did 4th place

[Kyss4k]

Chilton ahead of Bianchi, Caterham ahead of Marussia...

[LivingHitokiri]

Wow, i feel sorry for Lotus....

[Ed Harley]

With rain it's lottery from now on.

[anakin]

Wow, i feel sorry for Lotus....

long weekend for them.

[Kyss4k]

Wow, i feel sorry for Lotus....

I don't feel sorry for Maldonado though :roll

[tifosi1993]

Fernando should've stayed on mediums, he was 9 tenths slower than Ricciardo's time after sector 2 and could easily made into Q2.

[Katu]

Chilton ahead of Bianchi, Caterham ahead of Marussia...

Jules unhappy with his car on that run and guess what? This sudden rain shower will not help us improve.

[anakin]

does it take some time to change setups?
dry to wets?

[LivingHitokiri]

Kobayashi is in for Q 2 ? Wow nice Kamui nice!

[SinanOzerS]

Wow it's already wet.

[SinanOzerS]

does it take some time to change setups?
dry to wets?

Setup changes are restricted after the Q1 starts. (Parc Fermé)

[hrc5555]

What is going on with Hamilton and Rosberg? :lol

[fratelliferrari]

Why has the Marussia team a Ferrari on the background of their laptops :lol I seriously just saw it when they were filming Chilton.

[Kyss4k]

What is going on with Hamilton and Rosberg? :lol

?

[LivingHitokiri]

does it take some time to change setups?
dry to wets?
Do not worry about setups, its not like old time where they could make HUGE difference, now they share a lot of similarities.


The rain stopped and lets hope in between break we can hope for some dry run on Q 3 ?

[FerrariFanBoii]

Fernando should've stayed on mediums, he was 9 tenths slower than Ricciardo's time after sector 2 and could easily made into Q2.

Did you not see he had that massive lock up? That would have cost a lot, and had traffic... I think he would have been first if it was a clean lap, it was a good idea to go on Softs.

[brava]

The sound of the cars is underwhelming, to say the least.

[Kyss4k]

Did you not see he had that massive lock up? That would have cost a lot, and had traffic... I think he would have been first if it was a clean lap, it was a good idea to go on Softs.

He had that lockup on those softs. He pitted with perfectly fine mediums.

[hrc5555]

?

They are supposed to lap us all for two laps, so this is bad pace for them.

[Kyss4k]

They are supposed to lap us all for two laps, so this is bad pace for them.

Right. They were on primes. Everyone ahead of them was on options...

[brava]

On the wet we should now see some skills from drivers

[SashAlex]

If I close my eyes, it feels like DTM. :-)

Touring cars perhaps!?

Hoping for a good final position for our guys.

[Ed Harley]

They are supposed to lap us all for two laps, so this is bad pace for them.
As engines are supposed to last for five races all will be racing with least possible effort enough in order to save engines and fuel. Victory by half a second is enough for everybody.

[stefa]

Now when the track starts to dry out every lap will be faster... Little race we are going to watch

[hrc5555]

Right. They were on primes. Everyone ahead of them was on options...

Thanks, didnt know that.

[Katu]

Why has the Marussia team a Ferrari on the background of their laptops :lol I seriously just saw it when they were filming Chilton.

because Jules pretty much has Ferrari as his sponsor

[stefa]

It looks like KR cannot hit the same level of performance (delivery) as FA

[tifosi1993]

Go Fernando!

[LivingHitokiri]

It looks like KR cannot hit the same level of performance (delivery) as FA
He is stuck behind a car for like 3 laps now....

[Kyss4k]

Ricciardo is flying with that Red Bull.

[stefa]

Once again. Engine sound is AWFUL!!!

[SinanOzerS]

Ricciardo looks very fast.

[stefa]

And now the track will be so populated....

[stefa]

FA on a good lap

[Senna4Ever]

Ric shows clearly bulls absolutely there. Right from the beginning

[stefa]

KR in the wall

[Greig]

oh great Kimi

[Kyss4k]

Kimi :-??

[SinanOzerS]

OH NO KIMI !

[LivingHitokiri]

I cannot believe our luck, Kimi now stuck behind 2 cars......

[fratelliferrari]

Damn Kimi crash

[bogs1207]

Kimi oh no!!

[tifosi1993]

:-(

[wacc]

Noo :( Kimis crashed

[Rob]

Oh no

[anakin]

crash by kimi
kimi is clearly struggling compared to alonso

[FerrariFanBoii]

Well At least Kimi stopped Vettel getting into Q3 ;)

[stefa]

SV 12th :-)

[brava]

LOL Vettel

[tifosi1993]

EBD boy is out of Q2!

[bogs1207]

Lol vettel

[Uzair Ahmed]

P 12 vettel
lol crowd cheering

[Katu]

oh Kimi...

[wacc]

lol, Vettel got some cheers :)

[Rob]

Vettel:rotfl

[Schumiklub]

Why Kimi, why? :-(

[Katu]

vettel's voice sounded like he was crying

[anakin]

the crowd was ecstatic knowing vettel didn't made it into Q3

[DIEK]

I'm going to have fun this year. :-D

[Alfa159]

Bring back massa....lol

[stefa]

Not so heavy impact

[brava]

Can they fix Kimi car in time for Q3?

[Kyss4k]

What a mistake... :crazy

[hrc5555]

crash by kimi
kimi is clearly struggling compared to alonso

Is it bad?

[Rishu]

Ricciardo looks a real deal

[fronaldo]

Suicide mission from Kimi...

[Kyss4k]

Can they fix Kimi car in time for Q3?

He is out of Q3...

[Rishu]

Can they fix Kimi car in time for Q3?

He is out of Q

[Greig]

Can they fix Kimi car in time for Q3?

Since he is not in q3 then no :-)

[SinanOzerS]

Can they fix Kimi car in time for Q3?

He can't get out again i think.

[tifosi1993]

Rookie mistake from Kimi. :-??

[Katu]

at least he didn't wreck the car badly

[anakin]

Is it bad?

nosecone and front wing damage

[stefa]

He can't get out again i think.

Even if they fix the car, he cannot. He didn't pass into Q3

[tifosi1993]

No blown diffuser trickery - No Vettel.

[Senna4Ever]

Vettel still helmet on, but from the camera angle it looked like he was wearing red in the head

[Katu]

Scuderia Ferrari ‏@InsideFerrari 38s

#FerrariAUSGP #Kimi7 closes in P12, unfortunately an oversteer casues him to hit the wall. #ALO14 ends P3 and into #Q3.

[anakin]

ricardo is kicking vettel's . LOL!!

[Aruba]

Massive cheer for Vettel not getting into Q3...

[hrc5555]

Whats track condition? Is ti possible to go out on softs?

[SashAlex]

Kimi kinda struggled this week-end. Hopefully the race tomorrow will be a recovery for him.

[brava]

Since he is not in q3 then no :-)

Yeah, missed that, focused too much on Vettel :-D

[wacc]

Can they fix Kimi car in time for Q3?

Even if he would be inside Q3 and the car would be rapairable,he could not run in Q3 i think due to the rules.

[stefa]

Whats track condition? Is ti possible to go out on softs?

Too much water still on...

[PlatzdaTurbo]

Wow. Kimi is really struggling. No where near Alonso , no where near the other front runners.
The way hes struggling with the car i dont know how much progress he can make tomorrow.
Hes not looked happy or fast at all.
Deeply saddened. :-s

[Katu]

Whats track condition? Is ti possible to go out on softs?

rains still

[anakin]

Whats track condition? Is ti possible to go out on softs?

too damp

[stefa]

everyone on full wet except FA (INTER)

[SashAlex]

ricardo is kicking vettel's . LOL!!

It would be awesome if Riccardo kicks Vettel's but constantly this season.

[anakin]

I have this feeling ferrari are capable of being on front tomorrow

[wacc]

No blown diffuser trickery - No Vettel.

To be honest, without Kimi he would make it. if they stay reliable, i believe he can get his 5th WDC this year.

[gjoko-mkd]

Alonso on inter, no full wet

[Greig]

To be honest, without Kimi he would make it. if they stay reliable, i believe he can get his 5th WDC this year.

Kimi never cost him much.

[Katu]

it just hit me - no vettel pole!!!hurray!

[fronaldo]

Do we use monkey seat?

[hrc5555]

Alonso on inter, no full wet

How bad is it raining?

[anakin]

Alonso on inter, no full wet

wrong tire. everyone are on full wets

[Ed Harley]

Too early for inters.

[hrc5555]

wrong tire. everyone are on full wets

Yes, his gambling again!

[Rishu]

Merc going for full wets, RB going with inters

[Schumiklub]

Alonso is very slow on the inters, but he won't be pitting obviously, huge gamble, not paying off at the moment.

EDIT: I stand corrected, he put on full wets now.

[medeni73]

We're slow on any kind of tyre sadly....

[hrc5555]

Alonso is very slow on the inters, but he won't be pitting obviously, huge gamble, not paying off at the moment.

Alonso in pits!

[FerrariFanBoii]

Alonso is very slow on the inters, but he won't be pitting obviously, huge gamble, not paying off at the moment.

He was in the pits for like 2 minutes... He's now on full wets

[LivingHitokiri]

WHY Fernando is on full wet?

[FerrariFanBoii]

Alonso with his classic P5....

[medeni73]

so its previous years all over again...

[Schumiklub]

So testing results and all the speculation wasn't wrong, we're a lot slower than Mercedes.

[FerrariFanBoii]

If Alonso had stayed on those Inters, it would have been different.

[Katu]

again, points are given tomorrow, we'll see then

[brava]

It's wet, not sure this would stay the same on dry

[Alfa159]

Typical start to a season

[fronaldo]

Poor

[stefa]

Alonso with his classic P5....

He was also P6 a lot :-)

[Kyss4k]

Way to go Ferrari... Mistakes, strategic errors (massive ones). Thanks for a wonderful morning. You failed. Even Magnussen is ahead of Alonso. Great performance.

[Katu]

If Alonso had stayed on those Inters, it would have been different.

they would have been older than others

[stefa]

Honestly.... DISAPPOINTED!!!

[LivingHitokiri]

So p5 and P 11 for tomorrow's race taking into account Bottas 5 place grid penalty.

[anakin]

now everyone know now why ricardo keeps on smiling
while vettel won't be able to pull the epic finger again

[The Hajj]

So testing results and all the speculation wasn't wrong, we're a lot slower than Mercedes.

Over 1-1/2 seconds slower. Time for more inspirational speeches from SD about being patient, faithful, focused, etc.

[Kyss4k]

so its previous years all over again...

Yep. Red Bull will figure out what's happened to Vettel and they wil be up there with Mercedes. We will be playing catch up again. Exactly what I was looking for. Not.

[Ed Harley]

P5 and P11. Lots of work to do but if the setups are frozen then handling will be about the same in race.

[Uzair Ahmed]

A rookie qualified higher but then points will be 2mrw

[FerrariFanBoii]

So p5 and P 11 for tomorrow's race taking into account Bottas 5 place grid penalty.

10th for Raikkonen, as Kyvat (sp?) has a penalty as well.

[Alfa159]

We heard that last season and it made no difference.

[paneristi]

others are trading fast laps while one of our car is knocked of Q3, and the other can manage P5. I seriously think we have huge mountain to climb even if we have two of the best drivers around. The cars seem to be not as drivable as others and the engine may not be as powerful as those from Mercedes

[khizerk]

It was visible from the TV screen it was too wet for inters early on! What were they thinking?

[DIEK]

The race is tomorrow and you have to finish it, will be interesting.

[anakin]

mercedes are something else.
I thought ferrari can do it.

[wacc]

Kimi never cost him much.

So how much was it? FOM stripped off sector times so i do not have the data.

[tifosi1993]

So testing results and all the speculation wasn't wrong, we're a lot slower than Mercedes.

Story of last 5 years, sadly.

[Hornet]

P5 isn't so bad, as many things can happen during the race. This is the easy part done, now for the more difficult part on Sunday :pass

I'm impress by Ric, that guy got some serious skill against Vettel :-E

[Kyss4k]

If Alonso had stayed on those Inters, it would have been different.

We did it the wrong way around. First wets, then inters. Ferrari really hangs on to those words "no strategic mistakes" from Alonso...

[anakin]

I bet webber is laughing and screaming at the same time

[fronaldo]

Same old same old..

[M.K]

Times change, Alonso position in Qualy stays the same... good job from rookies.

[Schumiklub]

Oh, the folks on Sky are wetting their pants because Hamilton is on pole...

[LivingHitokiri]

10th for Raikkonen, as Kyvat (sp?) has a penalty as well.
Kvyat got penalty? for what ?


So how much was it? FOM stripped off sector times so i do not have the data.

Vettel lost much more in second sector due to his mistake, kimi maybe cost him 1-2 tenths since he got rid of yellow flags quickly according to new regulations.

[stefa]

Mercedes is VERY, but VERY strong....

[SashAlex]

So Mercedes could build a competitive car right from the start and Ferrari couldn't with all the rule changes we've been waiting for.

Was cheering for an RBR today. Unbelievable! Hope Ricciardo will be a tough nut for Vettel.

Yeah! P5, here we meet again! Yayy!

What else do we have? Ah, yeah, the working wind-tunnel.

[anakin]

P5 isn't so bad, as many things can happen during the race. This is the easy part done, now for the more difficult part on Sunday :pass

I'm impress by Ric, that guy got some serious skill against Vettel :-E

also impressed by this boy. but not so surprised.
from day one that redbull sign him.
he have this kind of confidence that he can beat vettel.

[Wildcat]

It's only the first qualy of the season, stop being sissies...

[DIEK]

Rain a lot: Exit with inters.

Track is drying at the end: Exit with full wet.

Ferrari strategic logic. :roll

[Alfa159]

Typical start to a season .... always having to play catch up....the next question will be when are our next updates coming..lol

[Senna4Ever]

Honestly.... DISAPPOINTED!!!
Same here
Far behind from where our big heads want to see us.
It was a engine related regulations change. And also there we only manage to be average again.

Once again. The schumi-todt-brawn years just gave wrong impression about how good we are.

[stefa]

It's only the first qualy of the season, stop being sissies...

You are right. It is only the 1st qually of the season, but it is like 5 year in a row with same results (performance)

[LivingHitokiri]

We could see a total different image tomorrow especially if the weather is dry. Do not lose your hope so fast guys, we still in the game.
The winner is always the one that finishes the race.

[tifosi1993]

Germany 2012 was our last pole position and Malaysia 2013 was our last front row.

Will we ever get pole/front row in near future?

[mark p]

Hard to say whats happening pace wise as big gaps between teamates due to weather. What looks certain is Merc are fastest in quali for now but not by as much as some predicted. I think the race will be closer than many predict. I just want both Ferrari's to finish.

All cars are still at different stages of development. Keep picking up points and stages of development will converge by half way through the year then we will see who has best designs.

[Ed Harley]

Some of the cars seemed very unstable even on straights.

[Nero Horse]

It's only the first qualy of the season, stop being sissies...

Some people just love the dramatic doom and gloom...it's nothing new here. :roll

[hrc5555]

Rain a lot: Exit with inters.

Track is drying at the end: Exit with full wet.

Ferrari strategic logic. :rotfl

On what tires was Hamilton and Rosberg at the end?

[FerrariFanBoii]

How can a lot of you moan? I admit in the past I've been a moaner, but come on!!

It's the first race, Ferrari chose the wrong tyres to start with, if we had chosen to run wets to start with, I honestly could have seen it a different outcome, and anyway, it was tricky conditions, if we're like this in the dry next race, then yu can start your moaning.

[Kyss4k]

We looked to the changes as an oportunity to get back on the absolute top. We can keep dreaming I guess.

I really wonder what excusses do we have this time.

[stefa]

Same here
Far behind from where our big heads want to see us.
It was a engine related regulations change. And also there we only manage to be average again.

Once again. The schumi-todt-brawn years just gave wrong impression about how good we are.

I agree with your last sentence 100% :clap

[izybluffen]

Great job from Disco Dan ! He wont get the shaft like Webber as Dan is Helmut's next big thing.

Shame about Kimi he didn't look comfy and I think the Ferrari will be better in the dry. Alonso will come through.

[Senna4Ever]

Rain a lot: Exit with inters.

Track is drying at the end: Exit with full wet.

Ferrari strategic logic. :roll

Hamilton on pole with full wet. So where's the problem?

[Ferrari312]

It's only the first qualy of the season, stop being sissies...

It's the first quali of the season but after 5 years of coming in second, the frustration is understandable.

As before, just hoping for Alonso to do his magic as always tomorrow. :-??

[Ferrari312]

--double post--

[anakin]

from the pre-season testing
they say the pecking order will be
mercedes
mclarens
williams
ferrari/force india
and so on

but the ferrari are clearly faster than the force india and the williams and the mclarens
but not with the mercedes

[stefa]

from the pre-season testing
they say the pecking order will be
mercedes
mclarens
williams
ferrari/force india
and so on

but the ferrari are clearly faster than the force india and the williams and the mclarens

That is a huge relief :-)

[wacc]

Not dissapointed P5 is in line with what was to expected after the pre season.
Guys do not make conclusions about Mercedes going for both titles. The season is long and learning curve is steeper than ever. RBR is going to make the life hard for Merc and there is still hope that Ferrari can too.

[Nero Horse]

Rain a lot: Exit with inters.

Track is drying at the end: Exit with full wet.

Ferrari strategic logic. :roll

It's not Ferrari engineer's call to make, cause Alonso tells them what the conditions are like and what tyres he wants to use. Stop blaming everything on Ferrari.

[Jose Lorca]

P5 isnt a bad position. A lot can happen in the race.

[stefa]

OK. There is a beautiful day out here in Belgrade and I am going to spend it to the full! See you all tifosi tomorrow!

[wacc]

Germany 2012 was our last pole position and Malaysia 2013 was our last front row.

Will we ever get pole/front row in near future?

No. :-!

:-)

[Rob]

Its all different tomorrow. Why so all doom and gloom already? It first race weekend.

[giodap]

here comes the stay calm, focus and everyone achieve there pole positons back at the factory blah blah blah :rotfl

[Kyss4k]

To all of you who keep delaying the opinion:

Are you blind? We were nowhere near Merc other then 1st free practice. You keep saying (every year) it's just testing, wait till Australia quali. Oh it's just quali, wait for the race. Oh it was just the first race, wait till Barcelona... Oh it's not over till it's over.

When did it worked out? As an engine manufacturer we had an massive advantage (it was said even by Luca) and while Merc managed to used it, we failed. We had all the tools, money and time. We kept talking about how this is our chance.

And we got ripped appart by Mercedes. Even RB looks like a faster car, after no testing.

[anakin]

vettel can't make any excuses about drivability
their car almost broke the hearts of the mercedes

[Nero Horse]

No. :-!

:-)

YES.

[Kingdom Hearts]

Not happy with the tyre choice in Q3, but P5 is not a bad starting point.

[FerrariFanBoii]

To all of you who keep delaying the opinion:

Are you blind? We were nowhere near Merc other then 1st free practice. You keep saying (every year) it's just testing, wait till Australia quali. Oh it's just quali, wait for the race. Oh it was just the first race, wait till Barcelona... Oh it's not over till it's over.

When did it worked out? As an engine manufacturer we had an massive advantage (it was said even by Luca) and while Merc managed to used it, we failed. We had all the tools, money and time. We kept talking about how this is our chance.

And we got ripped appart by Mercedes. Even RB looks like a faster car, after no testing.

It was raining!!! And we got the strategy wrong!!

[Alfa159]

Some people just love the dramatic doom and gloom...it's nothing new here. :roll

So you're happy with where we're starting ... I always thought the whole idea of qualifying was to start on front row of the grid...Ferrari have been in formula 1 for a long time and have two world championship drivers ...it's time they make a statement and be a leading team rather than followers.

[PlatzdaTurbo]

Alonso will be fine tomorrow. Challenging for the podium.
Question is, where will Kimi be. He isnt even close to fast. He needs to get that thing tuned to his tastes and fast !

[Nero Horse]

To all of you who keep delaying the opinion:

Are you blind? We were nowhere near Merc other then 1st free practice. You keep saying (every year) it's just testing, wait till Australia quali. Oh it's just quali, wait for the race. Oh it was just the first race, wait till Barcelona... Oh it's not over till it's over.

When did it worked out? As an engine manufacturer we had an massive advantage (it was said even by Luca) and while Merc managed to used it, we failed. We had all the tools, money and time. We kept talking about how this is our chance.

And we got ripped appart by Mercedes. Even RB looks like a faster car, after no testing.

:lou

[FA fan]

Well with these tricky conditions p5 for Alonso is not bad it could have been a lot worse,the points are given on Sunday and it won't be easy for everyone! It's too bad Kimi didn't qualify much higher! But I remember last year Kimi won the race after qualifying 7th,so all is not lost it's a long season..

[wacc]

YES.

It depends on what do one mean with the near future. ;-)
But I would be happy to be reminded that I was wrong.

[Kyss4k]

It was raining!!! And we got the strategy wrong!!

Was it raining in FPs? It's allways the same. Always something to hide our pace behind. Rain, mistake, strategy, sandbagging,... It's quite clear we are not in the league of Merc and RB. And our race pace was even worse in comparison.

And making those insane strategic errors is a good excuse?

[anotherfinemess]

Rain a lot: Exit with inters.

Track is drying at the end: Exit with full wet.

Ferrari strategic logic. :roll

Exactly!! I was yelling at my TV!! :furious

[Kyss4k]

:lou

Yeah, that's what I'll do now :-D

[paneristi]

I wonder if excuse-for-the-season is being drafted now

[Nero Horse]

So you're happy with where we're starting ... I always thought the whole idea of qualifying was to start on front row of the grid...Ferrari have been in formula 1 for a long time and have two world championship drivers ...it's time they make a statement and be a leading team rather than followers.

No, I'm not happy, but I'm not going to mindlessly bash the team, start tearing my hair out and go completely crazy here over it, that's for sure.

[FerrariFanBoii]

No, I'm not happy, but I'm not going to mindlessly bash the team, start tearing my hair out and go completely crazy here over it, that's for sure.

Exactly! You're spot on! Start the mindless rage if these results continue through to Barcelona, but for now, everyone chill!

[impactX]

The last run with wet was not wrong. LH did the last fastest lap on full wet.

[LivingHitokiri]

Alonso will be fine tomorrow. Challenging for the podium.
Question is, where will Kimi be. He isnt even close to fast. He needs to get that thing tuned to his tastes and fast !

If we take into accord how good Fernando and Kimi are during race days then yeah, im positive . Our guys have won even from the last place in the past im sure the can bring a good performance tomorrow.

[wacc]

Alonso will be fine tomorrow. Challenging for the podium.


I wonder what make you to believe this. Before Q I read that Ferrari might have better Q pace than race pace. Now you are saying otherwise.
The true is no one knows what is going to happen tomorrow

[tifosi1993]

If we take into accord how good Fernando and Kimi are during race days then yeah, im positive . Our guys have won even from the last place in the past im sure the can bring a good performance tomorrow.

All depends on the start.

[anotherfinemess]

Did Hamilton do his pole time on wets? or was it inters?

[bondilad]

Alonso will be on the podium tomorrow. Looking at the guys ahead he will break into the top 3. Having said that, an already complicated weekend got worse. Earlier on p3 rosberg and hamilton complained about tires overheating. That could be a problem tomorrow. The redbull might breakdown. Kevin might be slow with too much rear down force. Poor race starts.

The list goes on. So I think we might be in for a good weekend. Hopefully our car was setup more towards race trim.

Call me optimistic, but after all, this is only our first race.

[LivingHitokiri]

Seriously, does anyone remember the poles from mercedes last year ? How many of those they won ?
Come on people,the season just started , there is a lot of stuff to change and to learn,dont judge the things yet.

[tifosi1993]

http://gfycat.com/RegalCostlyBagworm

:-s

[Nero Horse]

Did Hamilton do his pole time on wets? or was it inters?

wets.

[Kyss4k]

Exactly! You're spot on! Start the mindless rage if these results continue through to Barcelona, but for now, everyone chill!

It is now, when we didn't managed to make a superb car from the begining. In Barca updates will come, but it will always be a catching up from now.

[fratelliferrari]

No, I'm not happy, but I'm not going to mindlessly bash the team, start tearing my hair out and go completely crazy here over it, that's for sure.

:thumb 100% agree with you on this one!

[LivingHitokiri]

All depends on the start.

The whole race really,it depends on everything especially on how the drivers manage their car, the tyre the fuel consumption and ofc the reliability . The mercedes themselves are keeping their heads down for a reason .

[Kyss4k]

I wonder what make you to believe this. Before Q I read that Ferrari might have better Q pace than race pace. Now you are saying otherwise.
The true is no one knows what is going to happen tomorrow

This. Our race pace looked worse than quali pace (when comparing to others).

[mirafiori]

This is hard to take, some would say what do you expect but I expected a little better today after so many rule changes and a new beginning, the car seemed hard to drive and we look to be back to the usual Alonso 5th on the grid and the second driver around 10th position, I know it's only Saturday and points are awarded on Sunday but we are once again playing catch up. All that said the hard part is the race and this is where I think we could do well, and it is still to early to really judge but me personally I can not take another season of disappointment. Forza Ferrari.

[LivingHitokiri]

http://gfycat.com/RegalCostlyBagworm

:-s
This actually is very weird, it looks like kimi tried to the get the line and the car just didnt listen, it looks like a huge oversteer to me since he didnt touch any of the lines after the corner that would justify the spin.
Hmmm, do we got more info from the team about this ?

[killer]

Did Hamilton do his pole time on wets? or was it inters?

Wets.

Mercedes are strong but we have yet to see their race pace--as do we Ferrari. Brilliant qualifying for K-Mag and Dani Ric. Seb with a major hissy fit.

[hrc5555]

Did Hamilton do his pole time on wets? or was it inters?

Hamilton on wets but Ric on inters, so it could be the case that inters was better for the end...

[Rob]

Fernando would of said inters. He is driving and feeling the track. All 1 team stop trying to point tyre call on the pit wall.

[wacc]

http://gfycat.com/RegalCostlyBagworm

:-s

Perez's gravel trip could have been the reason for Kimi doing some steering/throttle inputs resulting in the crash?
Unfortunate but still an driver error.

[F2008]

Alonso still has every chance of getting on the podium from 5th if the car allows him to. Great driver, year after year.

[anotherfinemess]

wets.

Shucks!! we're 1.5 secs off pace on same tyre??!! :-s

[PlatzdaTurbo]

Now would be the best time to reminisce suzuka 2005 people !
THAT's what those 2 are capable of and THAT's exactly what they can do again !
We have 2 of the fastest and best drivers on the grid !
We need to be optimistic because we have the drivers who can make a bad car look good !

[Nero Horse]

Fernando would of said inters. He is driving and feeling the track. All 1 team stop trying to point tyre call on the pit wall.

Yes, exactly! It's Alonso's call which tyres he wants to use in these wet conditions not Ferrari engineer's.

[Kyss4k]

Fernando would of said inters. He is driving and feeling the track. All 1 team stop trying to point tyre call on the pit wall.

He could have not feel the track, when he was not on it. The rain was falling stronger between Q1 and Q2 and he wasn't on the track in the pause...

[killer]

This actually is very weird, it looks like kimi tried to the get the line and the car just didnt listen, it looks like a huge oversteer to me since he didnt touch any of the lines after the corner that would justify the spin.
Hmmm, do we got more info from the team about this ?

Nothing weird about spinning a high-torque car on a wet track. These things happen. We'll get 'em tomorrow. :-)

[Kristof_F40]

I don't think we need to judge now. Fact is our car isn't the fastest out there, so we can complain about that. Fact is that last year our car wasn't the fastest either, still we won races in a dominant way in the first half. Question is still how will racing be. We all would have loved for us to be dominating, and that's not the case, so we can be dissapointed about that. But how will racing in 2014 be? Tyres, fuel, reliability, ... How many pole's did Merc have last year? How many did we have? Still in the WCC we had almost the same amount of points. I'm not saying this will be the case this year. But nobody knows. I remember last year Melbourne, waking up at Friday and seeing RBR beeing 1s faster, even in qualy when it rained and Seb made mistakes he took pole. But what was the podium like? Who would have expected that? Suddenly tyres were very important. At this point, we don't know anything, perhaps after tomorrow we will know more, perhaps we don't.
I agree with you that our car isn't the fastest and it should be, so I'm dissappointed, but that's not everything in F1. The thin that dissapoints me the most is our strategy in Q3. I don't get why we got out on inters.. Thank god we switcht to wet later on because otherwise we wre p8-P10 or sometging

[Rob]

He could have not feel the track, when he was not on it. The rain was falling stronger between Q1 and Q2 and he wasn't on the track in the pause...

Its his call.

[mirafiori]

:lou

:lou:thumb

[qb_marukochan]

This actually is very weird, it looks like kimi tried to the get the line and the car just didnt listen, it looks like a huge oversteer to me since he didnt touch any of the lines after the corner that would justify the spin.
Hmmm, do we got more info from the team about this ?

the torque it self. all backends car dancing on all over the place, even on the high speed corner.

[bondilad]

After all its not just about the Merc engine is it. Just when people were saying all renault engine teams would be in the back of the grid...and we've got 3 cars in the top ten one almost taking pole. Plenty of hope for ferrari to win this year.

[Kristof_F40]

Alonso still has every chance of getting on the podium from 5th if the car allows him to. Great driver, year after year.

Indeed, you can say what you want, every driver makes a mistake now and then, but I don't think we need to blame our drivers. Kimi as some issues right now, but that wel go. Imagine us with other drivers over the past couple of year, it would have been much more horrible. If it wasn't for Fernando, where would we have been? That's actually very sad. We're so lucky to have him, also Kimi.

[Kingdom Hearts]

Hamilton on wets but Ric on inters, so it could be the case that inters was better for the end...

Or maybe is just the RB with more downforce that makes the car go faster on rain?.

[Kristof_F40]

After all its not just about the Merc engine is it. Just when people were saying all renault engine teams would be in the back of the grid...and we've got 3 cars in the top ten one almost taking pole. Plenty of hope for ferrari to win this year.

Indeed, but perhaps rain helped them a bit, since nobody could use all the power. Remember 2012 Malaysia when we were much much slower, also with traction, and when it rained, we could mach the McLaren of Lewis

[PlatzdaTurbo]

Apparently a 5 place grid penalty for Bottas promotes Kimi to 11th.
One Finn ends up helping the other. LOL