Bahrain GP 2014 Race Thread

[mizf1]

Have we pitted? Might have fresh tyres

[Kyss4k]

You can go for Merc engines if you want to, just as long as you stop making your stupid sarcastic jokes!

Nothing else to say.


Btw, low noses are safe alright? Ask Guttierez.

[mizf1]

Hammy might get taken by Rosberg, thinkRos on faster tyres

[DJTaurus]

Rosberg will probably win this. Let the fight begin.

[paneristi]

Thank you Stefano for your stay calm attitude

[fratelliferrari]

Maldonado will get some points for this crash I guess :-D

[Red is Best]

Magnussen out.

[mizf1]

Vettel will get mugged by the 3 stoppers hopefully

[Alesi1]

I think this damages ferraris image. What woe Enzo do?

[shamim179]

Nasty crash! And at low speed. Lucky to still be alive!

Hamilton may not win this now?

SC may or may not help Ferrari.

[wacc]

No point starting on the 2015 car, in previous years did we not start early on the next years car for it to be average?

They have started already as the design process is very long. It is only a matter of how much resources are used for that.

[Nero Horse]

The truth hurts, doesn't it? Now you know how many of us felt the last few weeks.

We haven't been THIS abysmal in the previous races, but on this track all of our car's shortcomings have been revealed. This is really embarrassing, no one can deny it anymore and we need to get our act together and fast. I can just imagine how furious Luca is right now...Force Indias passing our cars left, right and centre...pfffff *smh* :-s

[M.K]

Think Maldonado could get black flagged?

[DJTaurus]

Just a stupid stupid mistake from Crashaldo..... didnt seem like he intend to hit him.

[tifosi1993]

Thank you Stefano for your stay calm attitude

And thanks to Luca for letting Ross Brawn go.

[The Architect]

The low nose certainly contributed to that crash.

[The Hajj]

Thank you Stefano for your stay calm attitude

"We know where we need to improve" "We will work hard to solve the problem"
"Staying calm will make us faster"

[varun]

We didnt pit?:-E

[Giallo 550]

Does this mean we can be competitive at a track like Monaco?

[Alesi1]

And thanks to Luca for letting Ross Brawn go.
This is the biggest error we made

[mizf1]

And thanks to Luca for letting Ross Brawn go.

Anyone know were he is fishing?

[Kyss4k]

Does this mean we can be competitive at a track like Monaco?

No. We don't have traction.

[SinanOzerS]

Why we're fitted with mediums ?

[Katu]

we did pit, why did they show Kimi for so long?

[radosav]

we did pit, why did they show Kimi for so long?

too slow

[LivingHitokiri]

We didnt pit?:-E

Both Fernando and Kimi pit, we got fresh tyres to push and maybe get some points...

[The Architect]

This is the biggest error we made

Maybe Ferrari should have relocated from Maranello to the UK to placate him?

[Katu]

Why we're fitted with mediums ?

maybe there's no softs left

[Alesi1]

Firs step to recovery. Sack stefano. Bring in Ross at all costs

[Scuderia85]

Why are we on Medium ??????

[shamim179]

10th and 11th behind SC.

Did we pit or not? But we're on mediums.

[Scuderia85]

are we out on softs??

[Katu]

grosjean not too close to us?

[Kyss4k]

Why we're fitted with mediums ?

We used all of the option tyres probably.

[Reikai]

Yes we did pit.

[varun]

Why mediums???
No more soft's left?

[Alesi1]

I cat believe how ordinary f1 is now. It's no just the Ferrari situation it is generally woeful nw

[M.K]

grosjean not too close to us?

Both Lotuses are together on track...

[Katu]

Both Lotuses are together on track...

good

[shamim179]

Don't think putting on the mediums was the smart thing to do. We need to push in this final stint. And behind SC, tyres will last longer. We might not even be in the points now.

[pluto]

Sack them all. What a disgrace. Smashed by everyone. Stefano must resign , we are a midfield car again.

[Uzair Ahmed]

First 6 cars r Mercedes powered

[Kyss4k]

I cat believe how ordinary f1 is now. It's no just the Ferrari situation it is generally woeful nw

This race i great! Not from Ferrari fan's wiev, but when you take away the abysmal performance of our team, this has been probably the most entertaining Bahrain race ever.

[Katu]

damn you merc

[DIEK]

Bye, bye Montezemolo...

[Scuderia85]

what are we thinking????

[mizf1]

Get on with it already

[wacc]

Again and again, that SC rule is ridiculous. How long are we supposed to wait :furious

[rico]

End this thing already. Too painful to watch anymore.

[varun]

Maybe the rest of the field race with the Merc powered Safety Car.

[M.K]

Maybe the rest of the field race with the Merc powered Safety Car.

:-D

[FranksterGM]

The SC sounds better than the F1 cars .....

And yes this is woeful. Sad day for Ferrari fans.

[DJTaurus]

Kimi is under pressure...... amazing.

[Giallo 550]

Maldonado 10 second penalty??? What a joke!

[Uzair Ahmed]

Last 10 lap is temmate vs teamate

[Schumiklub]

We're already losing touch with the rest

[mizf1]

Lets have Button, Vet and RIC

[varun]

Lets have Button, Vet and RIC

Not gonna happen mate

[SinanOzerS]

Lets have Button, Vet and RIC

Impossible.

[varun]

Fools gained a lot by SC:furious

[mizf1]

Cant even take Button on the staights :(

[SinanOzerS]

We can't even pass Button.

[Nero Horse]

I cat believe how ordinary f1 is now. It's no just the Ferrari situation it is generally woeful nw

What are you talking about? The racing is still good. I just wish we could be faster, that's the biggest problem.

[Katu]

good god, we cannot pass even button

[varun]

Cant even take Button on the staights :(

With DRS i suppose

[mizf1]

Impossible.

We needs wILLAIMS TO HAVE BOTH rEB bULLS, THEN THEY WILL ALL BE LINED UP FOR US ON FRESHER TYRES

[Kyss4k]

Mercedes gained 7 seconds in 2 laps :rotfl

We will never catch them. Probably not even in this F1 era.

[Schumiklub]

Mercedes destroying the competition... 3 seconds faster

[Giallo 550]

Luca's leaving early. Bill Buxton asked if it was an early flight or too painful to watch. He said "both."

[DJTaurus]

Mechanical problem on RIC in 1-2-3 BOOM :P

[varun]

From wher have fools have suddenly got so much pace?
:-E

[Giallo 550]

From wher have fools have suddenly got so much pace?
:-E

I was wondering the same thing.

[M.K]

Seb,Ric is faster than You, can You please confirm the message?

[Kyss4k]

Alonso ahead of Button!

[Giallo 550]

Vettel's car is crapping out.

[Katu]

at least button done

[REDARMYSOJA]

Luca's leaving early. Bill Buxton asked if it was an early flight or too painful to watch. He said "both."
Luca was not happy. Great shot earlier of Luca and Piero.

[tifosi1993]

Thank god.

[tifosi1993]

Come on KIMI!

[Katu]

if merc has to be WDC this year i hope it's Nico's

[varun]

This race has really showed the real pace of the cars ..
barring Williams behind red fools or maybe not

[Giallo 550]

if merc has to be WDC this year i hope it's Nico's

Ditto.

[Rishu]

Poor Lewis, SC robbed him

[DJTaurus]

Mercs already 14 secs in front of 3rd place after 6 laps... AMAZING..... ferrari take some notes and stefano GO HOME!

[radosav]

merc fighting each other and leaving others miles away

[Kyss4k]

Alonso has now activated turbo mode.

[mizf1]

Red Bull on older tyres?

[Alesi1]

Ferrari like sending our guys to war with toothpics when the opposition have machine guns

[blaney1977]

I think enoughs enough now. Change is needed

[DIEK]

http://i.minus.com/iulMVKqU10Oic.gif

[mizf1]

Hulk got a problem? Seems slower then earlier

[Giallo 550]

So that's what the floor of an F1 car looks like. Disgraceful...

[Giallo 550]

Button retired.

[The Hajj]

The NBC announcers just described the Merc drivers as "two men on top of their game"
Does anyone really believe that today's F1 car needs a special driver? The machine wins the race 99% of the time. Has Vettel, Alonso, Kimi or Button forgot how to drive?
The new rules have created this mess. Now, Bernie will mandate SC deployment to spice up races. Remember the artificial rain idea? What a joke.

[DJTaurus]

Button retired.

The second winter champs (after ferrari) with the innovative rear suspension that everyone rushed to copy :P

[mizf1]

The Ferrari seems better on low fuel, hanging onto Williams

[Rishu]

Fantastic race of you don't think about Ferraris :)

[Schumiklub]

9 and 10 for Ferrari...

[stefa]

9 and 10th.......

[Giallo 550]

This has been one painful Sunday morning.

[DJTaurus]

Nando waiving his hand.... for what?

[Katu]

well at least we can state that Kimi is much closer to Fernando than Massa was..

[Alesi1]

Ok so in old points system we would avebgot nothing!

[M.K]

We were front row spectators in this race. Good race though.

[SinanOzerS]

Nando waiving his hand.... for what?

"Congratulations guys, that's a great car !" maybe.

[Rishu]

I really enjoyed Lewis, he was absolutely brilliant

[Katu]

Nando waiving his hand.... for what?

for spectators. your car is crap, it doesn't mean you have to be rude

[DJTaurus]

I always looking forward for stefano's comments... :P

[LivingHitokiri]

Nando waiving his hand.... for what?

Being off apparently, i cannot imagine him doing it for a different reason.
Few laps before Kimi did a weird gesture with the car showing his displeasure.


it is clear that our drivers arent pleased to fight for 1 and 2 points.....

[tifosi1993]

Most depressing race i have ever watched.

[Hornet]

This race is going to give me nightmares for days to come. Disappointing results. Still confused about how we ended up at the back after SC, was it late reaction

[stefa]

In 10 laps Mercedes had made 32 sec over Ferrari

[Kyss4k]

Easy WDC + WCC for Mercedes.

[radosav]

fantastic race

[DJTaurus]

well at least we can state that Kimi is much closer to Fernando than Massa was..

LOL hold your horses mate... dont forget the SC :) :P

[pluto]

Ferrari like sending our guys to war with toothpics when the opposition have machine guns

lol true. Lucky to get podiums this year.

[anotherfinemess]

Terrible race for us, but one of the best races in the last couple of years in terms of racing!!!
Enjoyed it!

[Schumiklub]

32 seconds gap in 11 laps, amazing

[stefa]

I really enjoyed Lewis, he was absolutely brilliant

Hat down! He really was!

[Rishu]

Good to see friendly banter between two Merc drivers

[FA fan]

Nando waiving his hand.... for what?

For being ahead of Kimi :lol

[varun]

This has been one painful Sunday morning.

Atleast its night here..can sleep and forget the race nightmares:-ZZ

[Nero Horse]

Oh thank God that this race is finally over...one of the most difficult and painful races I've ever watched that's for sure. At least I can take solace from both Macca's retiring.

[shamim179]

Thrilling race to watch! My heart was pumping way more than usual!

The most entertaining race of the year so far.

Hopefully, this is will be a wakeup call for us but Stefano as usual will preach calm and just put out the fire in the process. But there is no way we will win this year's WDC or WCC. That's been confirmed today.

[Alesi1]

Aldo costa in press room must be enjoying this

[FA fan]

On a serious note this was a painful race to watch,apart from watching both Mercedes race each other for the win!

[FerrariFanBoii]

Pathetic, that's what we are. It's embarrassing.

[fronaldo]

Great race from Ferrari

[LivingHitokiri]

LOL hold your horses mate... dont forget the SC :) :P

Then again Kimi got hit again by Magnussen at beginning of the race so he surely lost some time there :)

[mizf1]

While we are finishing 9th and 10th, LH and NR stretching their lead in the WDC, even if we have a massive improvement its going to be hard reeling them in. i.e Button with Brawn 2009 as he done the damage at the first half of the season

[cokata]

pathetic

[impactX]

Aldo Costa getting the constructor trophy.

[Kyss4k]

Everything we saw in the testing was true. I remember us saying "If you think Ferrari is 2 secs behind Mercedes, you are nuts". Yeah.

[stefa]

Great race from Ferrari

Which part?

[DJTaurus]

Then again Kimi got hit again by Magnussen at beginning of the race so he surely lost some time there :)

We are killing it... no doubt :P

[SinanOzerS]

Aldo Costa. No other words needed.

[Red is Best]

Toto Wolff congratulating Aldo Costa for having designed the car.

[Rob]

Which part?

getting to the finish :-s

[stefa]

Aldo Costa getting the constructor trophy.

Interesting....

[Gerhard Berger]

Aldo Costa getting the constructor trophy.

he's too conservative - being 2 seconds quicker than the opposition is not enough :lol

[Alesi1]

When was th last time we wre that slow?

[Alonso14]

We only need 2-3s per lap more and will be fighting for wins. Oh my, that was pathetic. How many times the Force Indias passed both our boys today? Embarrassing.

Improvements expected for China, hopefully we'll be closer in 2 weeks time. Forza Ferrari!

[stefa]

getting to the finish :-s

and taking 3 points, too

[DJTaurus]

I thought the gap with mercs was 1 sec not 2-3.... so we should expect newER parts after the new parts on China?? #justsaying

[Nero Horse]

Pathetic, that's what we are. It's embarrassing.

Our current form is pathetic, not the team as a whole. And yes, it was embarrassing.

[stefa]

When was th last time we wre that slow?

During 80's

[radosav]

we are doomed to watch Formula 1 Ferrari Cup, between Alo and Rai

[shamim179]

Costa looks very happy and proud. There is no doubt that some of his efforts bear his name on this year's Mercedes. Very painful to watch that when you consider that we go rid of him.

[varun]

Great race from Ferrari

Ok could you please elaborate?
Or is this Stefano on our forum?

[scuderia_nano]

So we are officially a midfield team now. Our staff is collecting trophies with other teams and the trend indicates hat we might be back markers soon.

[Alesi1]

Closer to what force India at this rate we will be struggling to comete with toro rosso

[Schumiklub]

When was th last time we wre that slow?

2005 when we had Bridgestone, and all of our competition had Michelin.

[diesel08]

Great race but not for us.

[Alesi1]

During 80's
Exactly I think that was worse than 92/3

[scuderia_nano]

We have practically fired everyone or changed every employees position but probably the guy who needs to go.

[Gerhard Berger]

While we are finishing 9th and 10th, LH and NR stretching their lead in the WDC, even if we have a massive improvement its going to be hard reeling them in. i.e Button with Brawn 2009 as he done the damage at the first half of the season

championship is over. we might manage to develop our car to be better than Williams, Force India and maybe Red Bull (doubtful) but Mercedes are long gone. This will be 1988 all over again.

[F1NAC]

I am glad that Montezemolo was on that race. I hope he embarrased himself. Go and build tractors Luca

[ritsukka]

haha atleast Alonso is happy :D Ferrari's this year's car reminds me of old good Minardi^^

[Alesi1]

2005 when we had Bridgestone, and all of our competition had Michelin.nthat was tyres this is our complete package

[fronaldo]

Which part?
Laughing part

[The Architect]

Once again, Ferraris with no power. Enzo must be turning in his grave.

[Kyss4k]

And we kicked out Costa and let go Brawn. Looks like Fry and co are not even at their knee level.

Prepare for Mercedes era. This is exactly what Ferrair did back in Schmi era. Building a team and then BANG! There is nothing stopping them now.

[Red_Diamond]

In 2011 on this forum, most complaining about Ferrari now wanted Costa to be sacked. Oh, the irony!

[Nero Horse]

During 80's

Well, no actually, we had some really-really tough times in 2009 and 2005 as well.

[Kyss4k]

Go Brian! :rock

[Schumiklub]

nthat was tyres this is our complete package

Well, the question wasn't specific enough. :-D

[IulianFerrari]

LOL hold your horses mate... dont forget the SC :) :P
Kimi was going for a 2 stopper and Fernando for a 3 so who knows what would have happened. THE MAIN IDEA is I don't care which one finishes 9th and which one finishes 10th. Disgrace is the word I'm thinking about. But life goes on, come on Stefano tell us what happened, we should have been 2nd fastest car but someone tied a bolder to our car...

[Nero Horse]

I am glad that Montezemolo was on that race. I hope he embarrased himself. Go and build tractors Luca

Why should he build tractors lol? All we need is a faster F1 car and for the record Luca doesn't build or design the cars.

[wacc]

When was th last time we wre that slow?

2009 was even worse

[anotherfinemess]

In 2011 on this forum, most complaining about Ferrari now wanted Costa to be sacked. Oh, the irony!

True :-)

[fronaldo]

Alonso raised his arm after finish..

[Gerhard Berger]

Costa looks very happy and proud. There is no doubt that some of his efforts bear his name on this year's Mercedes. Very painful to watch that when you consider that we go rid of him.

Costa is a proud man. He was particularly hurt by comments from Domenicali, saying he was "too conservative". Sorry to say, but he has shut him up now.

Domenicali under big pressure ("but we have to stay cool").

[varun]

What will we do in straight of China..

[Gerhard Berger]

Why should he build tractors lol? All we need is a faster F1 car and for the record Luca doesn't build or design the cars.

He doesn't, but he did pick Domenicali.

[RedRebel40]

What will we do in straight of China..

Dunno, Rosberg was japping about 360 km/h on that straight in China...

[Alesi1]

2009 was even worse
2009 was way better we were not that far off the pace and there was the trick diffuser problem. I'm dropping this sport after 20 years I've had enough. Look at the douche doing the interviews come on go off and sing

[Ferrarikkonen]

We have been testing so much in Bahrain and I just cant believe that we were so far off the pace

[Giallo 550]

Wow, Perez's hat is pretty ugly.

[redkid]

Goodness gracious, Bahrain GP just exposed our true pace...we were eaten alive by Merc powered cars (Merc,Force India and Williams)! I cannot remember the last time we were totally defenseless against a Force India!I feel sorry for our drivers,as usual they fought very hard not just against the other cars but more so with the F14T,tsk!

Still,I am hoping for a quick recovery come China, I still trust and believe in Ferrari,Forza Ferrari!

[Kiwi Nick]

It all comes down to this...Mercedes put 22 seconds, 2.0+ seconds per lap, into the next best finisher over the last 10 laps using the prime tire. Season over!

[Kyss4k]

I never said Stefano should go or anything, but after what I just saw, I am sure he will. He led the team succesfully into a midfield. Do you remeber his line before 2012: "There will be no disspaointment from now" :lol

[fronaldo]

We are officially 5th/6th fastest car

[Gould]

The only way we have of gaining back some credibility is for the 100kg/h limit to be deleted and the minimum weight to be increased by 20kgs. Otherwise with this PU we are doomed for this season.

[goudsekaas]

Watching Aldo Costa on the podium is like pouring an alcohol to an open wound, it hurts like hell.. but I hope we learned something from this race.

[Kyss4k]

What will we do in straight of China..

We will do 260 kph...

[Kiwi Nick]

Goodness gracious, Bahrain GP just exposed our true pace...we were eaten alive by Merc powered cars (Merc,Force India and Williams)! I cannot remember the last time we were totally defenseless against a Force India!I feel sorry for our drivers,as usual they fought very hard not just against the other cars but more so with the F14T,tsk!

Still,I am hoping for a quick recovery come China, I still trust and believe in Ferrari,Forza Ferrari!

Don't forget the Red Bulls, who seem to be better at getting the power to the ground under acceleration.

[mizf1]

I'm really looking forward to what SD has to say,

I bet if I copy and paste last weekends quote it probably won't be too dissimilar.

[Giallo 550]

I've never said anything negative about anyone at Ferrari since I started following the team closely 5 years ago, but Stefano needs to be canned...

[Greig]

Great racing today, seems I did not miss much by giving this thread a miss, just the usual crying and whinging.

[DJTaurus]

What will we do in straight of China..

new parts and some more new parts. Bring it on. #not :P

[Gerhard Berger]

Really hope LdM got on the phone to Brawn. He can fix this mess that Domenicali has created.

[wacc]

2009 was way better we were not that far off the pace and there was the trick diffuser problem. I'm dropping this sport after 20 years I've had enough. Look at the douche doing the interviews come on

Go and check the results of the Qualifyings and the races ...

[SinanOzerS]

Great racing today, seems I did not miss much by giving this thread a miss, just the usual crying and whinging.

Can you SHUT UP ?

[Alonso14]

I never said Stefano should go or anything, but after what I just saw, I am sure he will. He led the team succesfully into a midfield. Do you remeber his line before 2012: "There will be no disspaointment from now" :lol

Maybe what he meant is that he's turning us into a midfield team and from now on P7-P15 are no longer disappointing. At this rate, with Stefano, we'll be fighting with Koba, Chilton and Bianchi to get out of Q1.

[Schumiklub]

Great racing today, seems I did not miss much by giving this thread a miss, just the usual crying and whinging.

It was great racing, but we didn't participate in it, that's the sad part.

[Aussie]

2009 was way better we were not that far off the pace and there was the trick diffuser problem. I'm dropping this sport after 20 years I've had enough. Look at the douche doing the interviews come on go off and sing

It's not that bad mate. I jumping on the dan wagon

[sachin]

No sarcasm here guys..
But when are the next "rule changes" ?
2019?

[wacc]

We will do 260 kph...

What is that exaggerating good for? :roll

[ManFromMilan]

if merc has to be WDC this year i hope it's Nico's



Yes, rather Nico for WDC.

I cannot see us turning this year around. We seem to be getting slower.

:-(

[stefa]

Go Brian! :rock

Yes! Hell's Bells! And they are taking Ferrari down! (who knows the song will recognize he lyrics...)

[Gerhard Berger]

Great racing today, seems I did not miss much by giving this thread a miss, just the usual crying and whinging.

I agree the racing was great today.

And given Ferrari's budget, infrastructure and drivers, the performance of the car was unacceptable today - of course us fans on here are not going to be happy.

[IulianFerrari]

2009 was even worse
In 2009 we got a win. Honestly in your opinion are you even dreaming of that happening this year ? I would take 1 podium finish all season right now if someone asked me.

[stefa]

It was great racing, but we didn't participate in it, that's the sad part.

Unfortunately you are 100% right

[Kyss4k]

What is that exaggerating good for? :roll

For nothing. As is our car. So it fits nicely together...

But no, I'm angry and frustrated, so my brain is comming with this kind of .

[Greig]

I agree the racing was great today.

And given Ferrari's budget, infrastructure and drivers, the performance of the car was unacceptable today - of course us fans on here are not going to be happy.

Crying about it over and over won't change a thing, we knew from last weekend we would not be in a good position at this race yet here we are and people are acting all shocked about it. There has to be a point when some of you accept where we are and realise constantly crying and bitching at the team is fruitless.

[mizf1]

I don't think Stefano has any confidence in himself, remember at the start of the season when he said he will move over if Ferrari appoint a new team principal (Ross Brawn), so clearly he must think Ross Brawn is better then him, well I do and Im sure many others do.

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12474/9036910/stefano-domenicali-says-he-would-have-no-problem-if-ferrari-moved-to-strengthen

[eddie]

2 words - Utter Disappointment! (exclamation mark required)

We need a good turn around, hopefully things changes in the Euro league / segment :pray

and my goodness, those Mercs belong to another world... in just 1 lap after the safety car, they were no where to be seen... :-E

[Aussie]

Yes! Hell's Bells!

Bloody oath

[DIEK]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bkja9dlCYAEPMXa.png:large

[stefa]

In 2009 we got a win. Honestly in your opinion are you even dreaming of that happening this year ? I would take 1 podium finish all season right now if someone asked me.

It is really a shame that after 20 consecutive years (since Hochenheim 1994 Gerhard Berger), this year Ferrari will not have a single win in a season...

[scuderia_nano]

Lets make a list of who all should be fired besides As of course.

[wacc]

In 2009 we got a win. Honestly in your opinion are you even dreaming of that happening this year ? I would take 1 podium finish all season right now if someone asked me.

The first few races in 2009 were much worse that the few ones this season... That is all. And that win in Spa... Fisi in Force India was faster but could not overtake.

[Katu]

i still think Maldonando shouldn't be racing driver

[The Hajj]

2009 was way better we were not that far off the pace and there was the trick diffuser problem. I'm dropping this sport after 20 years I've had enough. Look at the douche doing the interviews come on go off and sing

I agree. Today's F1 is not even a shadow of itself from years past. The rules have emasculated the cars and drivers. F1 should never have "fuel conservation" or "tire mandates" or "green anything" involved in its races. F1 is racing. It's not politics or activism. If all FIA wants is cars in close proximity to each other so they can create "excitement" then they can simply replace all the cars with Prius, Volt, Tesla etc.

Yes, I would like Ferrari to be up front, but that doesn't change my overall opinion of F1 as a whole. The environmental movement has killed Formula One.

[hakanabi]

Really hope LdM got on the phone to Brawn. He can fix this mess that Domenicali has created.

+1

[Giallo 550]

The NBC guys are saying Fernando's going to get a talking to from Luca about what he said in the interview. I don't find anything wrong with what he said.

[redkid]

Don't forget the Red Bulls, who seem to be better at getting the power to the ground under acceleration.

Yeah, I purposely omitted RB,my emphasis is more on the Force India as we all know RB is the 2nd best car right now even though they are powered by renault. Had RB been powered by Merc then it would have been a toss up between them and Merc.But again,to be totally defenseless against the likes of Force India (with all due respect)...it's...nauseating!I think it is more than just the PU...its deeper than that,I guess.

[Schumiklub]

Crying about it over and over won't change a thing, we knew from last weekend we would not be in a good position at this race yet here we are and people are acting all shocked about it. There has to be a point when some of you accept where we are and realise constantly crying and bitching at the team is fruitless.

Honestly, I am a bit shocked we were SO slow. We were much closer and more competitive in Malaysia. I hoped we could be on par with Williams, Force India and Red Bull, but we were behind them, and a long way behind, let's not fool ourselves. At least I feel a bit better when I share my thoughts with other people on this forum. I know it won't fix anything, but we can't ignore the stuff either and just post: We need to stay calm, it's going to get better. That won't help anyone either, and we won't have a discussion board, because there won't be anything to discuss.

[eddie]

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Somehow, the Lotus has a good track record on how to flip, fly and maybe even try to kill your competitor...

Esteban very lucky today....

[stefa]

Crying about it over and over won't change a thing, we knew from last weekend we would not be in a good position at this race yet here we are and people are acting all shocked about it. There has to be a point when some of you accept where we are and realise constantly crying and bitching at the team is fruitless.

If a just may. OK. To me, after first race was like 80% obvious that this year Ferrari won't be fighting for WDC and CWC. Yet I didn't said anything about it here. But if I have said, the whole avalanche would be thrown at me for dooming and glooming....
I say now. IT IS OVER!!! Unfortunately new hybrid F1 is not fan at all so there is little to enjoy in... Sadly...

[Kyss4k]

Crying about it over and over won't change a thing, we knew from last weekend we would not be in a good position at this race yet here we are and people are acting all shocked about it. There has to be a point when some of you accept where we are and realise constantly crying and bitching at the team is fruitless.

This was way worse then what was expected...

[wacc]

It is really a shame that after 20 consecutive years (since Hochenheim 1994 Gerhard Berger), this year Ferrari will not have a single win in a season...

And if they do you eat your hat :-P

[Bertie]

i still think Maldonando shouldn't be racing driver

I agree... soon he will be a murderer.

[Rob]

The NBC guys are saying Fernando's going to get a talking to from Luca about what he said in the interview. I don't find anything wrong with what he said.

what did he say?

[Katu]

Somehow, the Lotus has a good track record on how to flip, fly and maybe even try to kill your competitor...

Esteban very lucky today....

estebang was lucky, did he say - what was that?
very happy that nothing happened to him

[Alonso14]

Crying about it over and over won't change a thing, we knew from last weekend we would not be in a good position at this race yet here we are and people are acting all shocked about it. There has to be a point when some of you accept where we are and realise constantly crying and bitching at the team is fruitless.

Well, it's a forum. Crying and whining makes as much difference as supporting and pretending we're not that bad. People support the team, actually pay money for merchandise (or other means of supporting the team financially) and no one is saying "I've had enough, I'm with Red Bull/Merc/whoever now". People are unhappy and are voicing their frustration, I see nothing wrong with that. Supporting your team does not equal turning a blind eye to the negatives.

[Alesi1]

The NBC guys are saying Fernando's going to get a talking to from Luca about what he said in the interview. I don't find anything wrong with what he said.
What did e say

[Kingdom Hearts]

The race was fantastic, Ferrari the opposite.

[stefa]

The NBC guys are saying Fernando's going to get a talking to from Luca about what he said in the interview. I don't find anything wrong with what he said.

What he said?

[ritsukka]

I don't think the racing was that great. After all the result was pretty much same as the goodness of the car. Made even bad and average drivers look good. Only interesting thing was which team member was better..

[M.K]

Look on the bright side...we are not McLaren :-)

[stefa]

And if they do you eat your hat :-P

I would rally liked to do that! Really!

[eddie]

what did he say?

Yeah, what did Alonso say? He made the radio call, engine no power and the next shot was LdM and you could sense a fight after the race was going to happen....

[DIEK]

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[Gerhard Berger]

Crying about it over and over won't change a thing, we knew from last weekend we would not be in a good position at this race yet here we are and people are acting all shocked about it. There has to be a point when some of you accept where we are and realise constantly crying and bitching at the team is fruitless.

We have the right to voice our opinion and discontent. That is the purpose of internet forums like this.

In the end, anything we say, whether it's good or bad, is fruitless. The team will make their own decisions. That is pretty obvious though.

[Greig]

Well, it's a forum. Crying and whining makes as much difference as supporting and pretending we're not that bad. People support the team, actually pay money for merchandise (or other means of supporting the team financially) and no one is saying "I've had enough, I'm with Red Bull/Merc/whoever now". People are unhappy and are voicing their frustration, I see nothing wrong with that. Supporting your team does not equal turning a blind eye to the negatives.

Well voice them without being a idiot.

[stefa]

Look on the bright side...we are not McLaren :-)

But they are in front of Ferrari in CWC....

[Giallo 550]

what did he say?

Basically that the car is lacking top end and aerodynamics, and that everyone will be working hard to make the car competitive in China.

[J288GTO]

First post - need to vent after that disaster!

Its pretty gutting that Ferrari are nowhere with these new regs, the engine was always our strongpoint. Whoever let Aldo leave the team needs their head examined.

Maybe the engine will become better as the season progresses compared to the Merc though I doubt it. Maybe they are holding back power to improve fuel consumption and reliability (fingers crossed)? 2014 seems like a write off already unless there is a drastic improvement ASAP.

As for the drivers today I think they did well today - the car is a dog to drive and those guys don't become "bad drivers" overnight. I have faith in them, it's the teams top leadership I question sometimes. Ross where are you? :(

[Gerhard Berger]

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a sarcastic fist pump?

[eddie]

estebang was lucky, did he say - what was that?
very happy that nothing happened to him

His helmet was inches away from the track surface... very very lucky... Maldonado isn't fit to drive in F1

[FA fan]

i still think Maldonando shouldn't be racing driver

Totally agree ban the moving hazard!!

[Rob]

Basically that the car is lacking top end and aerodynamics, and that everyone will be working hard to make the car competitive in China.

Luca will not do anything as it is plain to see.

[AfterLife]

P6 for Fernando was possible without safety car.

[Red is Best]

Crying about it over and over won't change a thing, we knew from last weekend we would not be in a good position at this race yet here we are and people are acting all shocked about it. There has to be a point when some of you accept where we are and realise constantly crying and bitching at the team is fruitless.

Because crying and bitching about people crying and bitching is much better.

[Greig]

We have the right to voice our opinion and discontent. That is the purpose of internet forums like this.

In the end, anything we say, whether it's good or bad, is fruitless. The team will make their own decisions. That is pretty obvious though.

You don't really have any rights, the sole intent and purpose of this forum was to create a fan forum where the fans supported the team, not to see the team run into the ground as we can get on any other F1 forum. I certainly don't see the appeal in spending my own money to give people a soapbox to slate Ferrari day after day.

[Laferrari]

Oh dear,this race was an absolute shame for us.In front of Lucas,how can he explain this debacle to agnelli family how can Fry, doménicali,tombazi and marmorini stay in Ferrari management.This year will be worst than 2012 in term of pace.We are not improving the pace in front of the other team , Force india beat ferrari? 10 time smaller budget,same for williams,this is an absolute joke!Italians newspaper will be on fire tomorrow, same with the spanish press and finn press.Come on guy!!! there is no time to panic like doménicali , it s time to take decision for the future and NOW, because it s now that we can design already the 2015 car not in november.We cannot win the titel this year so we need to focus earlier and try to save Fernando with some magical word to keep him next year but not with doménicali , this men...ohh...I have no word to explain what i am thinking about his leadership into ferrari.
The race was fantastic , battle in front Hamilton vs rosberg reminde me Senna vs Prost incredible.Riccardo kill vettel...That s give you what type of 4 time champion , no rocketship....good driver ... but not in same class as alonso , hamilton .Best race so far

[eddie]

a sarcastic fist pump?

Didn't see that till now... why did Alonso do that?

[Rob]

Didn't see that till now... why did Alonso do that?

think he showing his displeasure :-??

[Alonso14]

P6 for Fernando was possible without safety car.

I think that's true. The problem with the SC was that with despite the fresh tyres we simply could not overtake anyone (who is not driving a McLaren) because of the top speed. If we didn't pit it would have been the same, we couldn't defend either.