If Ferrari power unit was not competitive for 2015 season

[AfterLife]

This is just a statistical survey.
If Ferrari were unable to sort out power unit problems efficiently for the 2015 season and other manufacturers power unit were so much better than Ferrari power unit . . .
Do you want Ferrari to use non Ferrari power unit?

Please vote and share your opinion. Thank you :-)

[Rob]

you joking?

[F1NAC]

NO. Even if is very horrible and bad and if it sucks I want them to drive that. Ferrari is ENGINE MANUFACTURER, we don't buy other engines

[Kristof_F40]

Dude, are you serious? You're suggesting that we, Ferrari, should use a non-Ferrari engine?! Ferrari with a non Ferrari engine?? Seriously? If our engine isn't the best, we make the best, that's our goal, and we will support or team in doing so. My opinion on this: every person that thinks we should use a non-Ferrari engine is stupid and definitly not a Ferrari fan, therefore, don't give your opinion on this forum

[Bertie]

Hell no!!!!

[Hornet]

If it ever come to that, I would rather see Ferrari leave F1 than to use our competitor's engine. It just doesn't have any meaning to race with our competitor's engine.

[AfterLife]

you joking?

No. I think it is a valid question and opinions as always are welcomed.

[AfterLife]

Dude, are you serious? You're suggesting that we, Ferrari, should use a non-Ferrari engine?! Ferrari with a non Ferrari engine?? Seriously? If our engine isn't the best, we make the best, that's our goal, and we will support or team in doing so. My opinion on this: every person that thinks we should use a non-Ferrari engine is stupid and definitly not a Ferrari fan, therefore, don't give your opinion on this forum

Calm down. It is just a question. It is inappropriate to call someone stupid for her/his opinion.

[mirafiori]

This has to be a belated April fool joke, there is no way Ferrari would ever put another engine in the famous scarlet car, sorry this is the most idiotic thread ever started on this forum:-!. What next the pope on Sunday reading to the public in st Peter's square form the Quran.

[Nero Horse]

It doesn't matter if the engine is competitive or not, Ferrari has been using and will always keep using it's own engines, and that's the way it must remain, no matter what. It would be really stupid to even think otherwise. So the answer is a resounding NO!!!

[AfterLife]

This has to be a belated April fool joke, there is no way Ferrari would ever put another engine in the famous scarlet car, sorry this is the most idiotic thread ever started on this forum:-!. What next the pope on Sunday reading to the public in st Peter's square form the Quran.

I'm sorry for you :-). Some people is still on learning process to share their opinion without insulting someone and You are one of them.

[Liscia]

Ferrari is NOT Ferrari with someone else's power! This tradition
should NEVER be broken, neither should Ferrari drop out of F1
even temporarily. They've always taken their knocks and should
continue to do so, however embarrassingly, until they return to
winning. Other teams have that "luxury" but it should never be an
option for Ferrari.

[Nero Horse]

This has to be a belated April fool joke, there is no way Ferrari would ever put another engine in the famous scarlet car, sorry this is the most idiotic thread ever started on this forum:-!. What next the pope on Sunday reading to the public in st Peter's square form the Quran.

Agreed.

[Greig]

I imagine the "win" or stamp feet brigade would welcome such a move.

[Jas]

lets diffuse the situation....no way however much we pay would a team like mercades supply us an engine...its not even a point considering! Sure ive though how good would be if we had a merc engine but that's as far as my thoughts go! It would also be commiting commercial suicide..

[Kristof_F40]

Calm down. It is just a question. It is inappropriate to call someone stupid for her/his opinion.

I agree that everyone can have his or her own opinion, that doesn't mean that one's opinion can't be stupid. But that's not the point. The point is, if you call yourself a Tifosi and then ask this question... just no words for that.. it's foolish..

[Kristof_F40]

I'm sorry for you :-). Some people is still on learning process to share their opinion without insulting someone and You are one of them.

You're asking the opinion on this matter so Ferrari supporters, that's just stupid. The only thing you will learn is this: who are Tifosi and who aren't. The once that are only hear because of glory years, because of victory, but not because of passion, the fire that burns in all of us, yeah, they will probably agree with you. But what does that tell you?

[AfterLife]

yeah, they will probably agree with you.

I haven't stated my opinion yet. Speak for yourself.

[Kristof_F40]

I haven't stated my opinion yet.

Indeed, but the fact that you start a thread for this question says enough for me. The fact that it crosses your mind says enough for me..

[AfterLife]

Indeed, but the fact that you start a thread for this question says enough for me. The fact that it crosses your mind says enough for me..

You have no idea what is my opinion. Speak for yourself.

[Kristof_F40]

You have no idea what is my opinion. Speak for yourself.

That's 100% true, I don't know what your opinion is, that's not the point for me. The fact that you start this thread and ask this question says enough for me, it doesn't matter what you're opinion is. The fact that you ask this question, that's what matters to me. And don't get me wrong, you are free to ask questions. I have no idea on what your opinion is, but I know that you don't feel what I feel, whethter that's good or bad

[abbottcostello]

So 23.08% of the poll takers think we should leave F1 after this season if we can't field a winning PU...

really?

Exactly what would that accomplish, ease the shame that you feel?
Some people amaze me, they let a car race ruin their well being when they have no more stake in Ferrari than being a fan.
I don't say this to belittle anyone, just to make you think! Yeah, it is saddening, sometimes maddening when our beloved red cars are performing poorly, but it is not the end of the world for us.

To those 6 who voted for Ferrari to leave F1 after this season, will you stop coming to this forum if Ferrari continue in 2015 without having a "sorted PU"?

[SilverSpeed]

Hell no, that would be blasphemy!!!

[fratelliferrari]

Obviously I voted NO! I only want Ferrari engines in Ferrari cars! We are Ferrari we are the best engine makers in the world we will be competitive in 2015!

[Nero Horse]

The fact is that a person who would even think about Ferrari using someone elses engine other than their own must be insane or just extremely dumb! There is just no other way to describe it. People are entitled to have their own opinion of course, but even thinking about something as ludicrous as "Ferrari using someone elses engine" is beyond crazy.

[Winter]

If there is one thing in F1 that will never happen, it is Ferrari using some other engine.

[Bertie]

lets diffuse the situation....no way however much we pay would a team like mercades supply us an engine...its not even a point considering! Sure ive though how good would be if we had a merc engine but that's as far as my thoughts go! It would also be commiting commercial suicide..

Damn right Merc would supply us it would be a PR master stroke. It would destroy Ferrari credibility as a brand and say to the world that merc engines are so good even Ferrari can't even dream of doing better. It will never happen because Ferrari don't want or need an outsourced engine.

[RedRebel40]

lol. you don't know anything about Ferrari or F1.

[Bertie]

:-E who is the one who voted "Yes. Being competitive is more important than luxury of having Ferrari power unit in a Ferrari car."?

:ban

I'm joking on the ban it is not my place to say that.

[Hermann]

:-E who is the one who voted "Yes. Being competitive is more important than luxury of having Ferrari power unit in a Ferrari car."?

:ban

I'm joking on the ban it is not my place to say that.


Yeah lets hang him from the next tree :lol

[Tony]

There are few things in life that can be measured with 100% certainty.... this however isn't one of those times.... there is 0% chance that Ferrari will ever run an outsourced engine....

[Winter]

lol. you don't know anything about Ferrari or F1.


I think everybody here knows something about both of those, some more, some less, but only most of us bother to explain why to lol at other forumist :thumb

[RedRebel40]

I think everybody here knows something about both of those, some more, some less, but only most of us bother to explain why to lol at other forumist :thumb

My comments was meanth to AfterLife.

[ALO]

is anyone else thinking about this? How long before Red Bull put one of those Merc PU's in their car and dominate the next few seasons again? :-E

I mean its not like we can do something like that...LOL

[Winter]

My comments was meanth to AfterLife.

Ok, I just :oops then. But this was not so stupid poll. I would never quess that so many people thinks that Ferrari should just give up and leave F1, if next year(too) will be bad. Like even this year would have been done and dusted after only 3 races.

[Giallo 550]

NO!

[AfterLife]

My comments was meanth to AfterLife.
Oh dear :cheers

[Bertie]

:-E who is the one who voted "Yes. Being competitive is more important than luxury of having Ferrari power unit in a Ferrari car."?

:ban

I'm joking on the ban it is not my place to say that.

Now there are two :roll

[Winter]

is anyone else thinking about this? How long before Red Bull put one of those Merc PU's in their car and dominate the next few seasons again? :-E

I mean its not like we can do something like that...LOL

Why Merc would sell their engine to RedBull? My guess is, that RedBull wait and see what Honda can do before they change their engine. And if Honda will be good, they'll pick Honda for 2016.

[AfterLife]

The fact is that a person who would even think about Ferrari using someone elses engine other than their own must be insane or just extremely dumb! There is just no other way to describe it. People are entitled to have their own opinion of course, but even thinking about something as ludicrous as "Ferrari using someone elses engine" is beyond crazy.

:redcard

[AfterLife]

Now there are two :roll

This is wide wide world of opinions. :-)

[Bertie]

This is wide wide world of opinions. :-)

How you win is more important than winning itself. A victory for Ferrari with a non-Ferrari engine would be a hollow one.

Using an outsourced engine would be an insult to our founder and our heritage, not to mention very damaging to the Ferrari brand. This should be obvious to any casual F1 fan let alone a FERRARI FAN. If winning is so important to some people they can always change there allegiance, this is more sensible than to suggest that Ferrari abandon it's traddition and self respect.

[Ophidian786]

Afterlife mate, not targeting you and completely understand your thought process, but no: Ferrari has a historic pedigree - an Italian born machine. For those who have followed the manufacturer for years, your question is unthinkable, to some even insulting. I think that is why your thread is receiving such a negative reaction.

[Nero Horse]

:redcard

Yes, a red card should be shown to you.

[Winter]

This is just one part of the cycle, our time will come again, sooner the better.
One glimpse from the past: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFXOdm6sEFI

[shamim179]

Ferrari are not just an F1 team but also an engine and car manufacturer. Adopting a non-Ferrari engine in a Ferrari car would damage the brand. Also, you've got to look at the cost structure. It can be much cheaper building your own engine rather than outsourcing it. Ferrari are the only team that is not reliant totally on the WCC income stream because of its share in F1 it can afford to go on in F1 without having to necessarily be the best in order to earn more WCC points thus more income. Which also means Ferrari can stay in this game and survive at least on this model.

However, never say never. Things can change if cost/income structure changes and/or the ownership model changes. Presently, Ferrari is owned by the Fiat group but there is no certainty that they will continue to be the owners. Should the Ferrari business group by sold and transferred to another owner such as Mercedes we may end up seeing Mercedes branded engines on Ferrari cars. There may be opposition to this by Ferrari but big companies usually get their way with these things especially if they own you. It is definitely possible. It doesn't matter what a fan wants. These things are out of our hands. At the moment the balance sheet of Ferrari is strong but this makes it even more attractive to potential predators. I would like to see Ferrari continue doing what it's doing for as long as possible. Our tradition of participating in F1 is at the very heart of what it means to be Ferrari.

[Nero Horse]

Ferrari are not just an F1 team but also an engine and car manufacturer. Adopting a non-Ferrari engine in a Ferrari car would damage the brand. Also, you've got to look at the cost structure. It can be much cheaper building your own engine rather than outsourcing it. Ferrari are the only team that is not reliant totally on the WCC income stream because of its share in F1 it can afford to go on in F1 without having to necessarily be the best in order to earn more WCC points thus more income. Which also means Ferrari can stay in this game and survive at least on this model.

However, never say never. Things can change if cost/income structure changes and/or the ownership model changes. Presently, Ferrari is owned by the Fiat group but there is no certainty that they will continue to be the owners. Should the Ferrari business group by sold and transferred to another owner such as Mercedes we may end up seeing Mercedes branded engines on Ferrari cars. There may be opposition to this by Ferrari but big companies usually get their way with these things especially if they own you. It is definitely possible. It doesn't matter what a fan wants. These things are out of our hands. At the moment the balance sheet of Ferrari is strong but this makes it even more attractive to potential predators. I would like to see Ferrari continue doing what it's doing for as long as possible. Our tradition of participating in F1 is at the very heart of what it means to be Ferrari.

I'm saying NEVER! The current owners of Ferrari (Fiat and Piero Ferrari) would most certainly rather let Ferrari go bankrupt than to see it being bought by Merc or any other foreign car company. Ferrari is so much more than just a car company, it's a symbol and pride of Italy and it's completely unimaginable that it could ever be sold to some foreign car company. If Enzo Ferrari didn't sell the company to Ford in 1969 then there's absolutely no way it can happen now or ever. If anything is at all certain on this planet, then it's that Ferrari will always remain an Italian car company and Ferrari will NEVER put some other car company's engine on their cars. That is 100% certain!

[sachin]

Whoa people believe that Ferrari should leave F1 if we dont have a strong performance by 2015..(What a joke)
That's unbelievable:-E

[brembo man]

GM cars are built in Mexico and sent back to the GM usa . If Ferrari s outsorced their F1 engines and then put them in as Ferrari by doing some small work on them who knows if it would be allowed. PS. I don't believe it would happen. At least not till 2016. :rotfl

[stefa]

The fact is that a person who would even think about Ferrari using someone elses engine other than their own must be insane or just extremely dumb! There is just no other way to describe it. People are entitled to have their own opinion of course, but even thinking about something as ludicrous as "Ferrari using someone elses engine" is beyond crazy.

:clap BRAVO :clap

P.S. This is stupid, meaningless poll....

[AfterLife]

:clap BRAVO :clap

P.S. This is stupid, meaningless poll....

If you think this is stupid why did you participate. Nobody has made you to :-)

[vcs316]

Absolutely No! Can't even imagine a Ferrari with a non Ferrari PU/Engine or whatever it is called these days...

[Nand0Nand0]

The current engine is there to make F1 production car relevant. The only possible alternative would be a FIAT or Chrysler engine.

[stefa]

If you think this is stupid why did you participate. Nobody has made you to :-)

You are right. No one made me to participate. When I looked at thread name, I was bored and I just checked. Then I saw, by my opinion stupid poll, read couple of posts, and reply at one with had absolute my thoughts in it! Simple as that.
Again stupid, meaningless poll!

[mirafiori]

If you think this is stupid why did you participate. Nobody has made you to :-)

Why are you being so disrespectful to members on this forum, show some respect and get a life, you created this thread and when members reply with a different view to yours you don't like it, for many years now we have had the best engine in terms of power and reliability and now with the new 2014 engine Ferrari are behind compared to Mercedes, but we will fight back and have a very competitive engine, could be this year, could be next year, could be 2016, 2017, when we do I will be there waiting because I support Ferrari.

[stefa]

Why are you being so disrespectful to members on this forum, show some respect and get a life, you created this thread and when members reply with a different view to yours you don't like it, for many years now we have had the best engine in terms of power and reliability and now with the new 2014 engine Ferrari are behind compared to Mercedes, but we will fight back and have a very competitive engine, could be this year, could be next year, could be 2016, 2017, when we do I will be there waiting because I support Ferrari.

:thumb

[aroutis]

Whoever put up this poll , is either trolling or is clueless.

Now, which is worse I just don't know.

[mirafiori]

Whoever put up this poll , is either trolling or is clueless.

Now, which is worse I just don't know.

Trolling and being clueless.

[zike]

This is madness!!!!

[varun]

Yeah right,this is rubbish..
What would you expect our name to be then?
Scuderia Ferrari Mercedes..:roll
That is even more embarrassing than our current form

[shamim179]

Yeah right,this is rubbish..
What would you expect our name to be then?
Scuderia Ferrari Mercedes..:roll
That is even more embarrassing than our current form

Much better the other way round:

Mercedes AMG Petronas Ferrari

[zike]

Yeah right,this is rubbish..
What would you expect our name to be then?
Scuderia Ferrari Mercedes..:roll
That is even more embarrassing than our current form

we could use Red Bull chassis to be Scuderia Ferrari Red Bull Marcedes :lol

[stefa]

we could use Red Bull chassis to be Scuderia Ferrari Red Bull Marcedes :lol

In this scenario it will be just Ferrari red color :lol

[stefa]

any way, moderators please do lock/erase this thread!

[tifosi1993]

Good God! What kind of **** is this! :-!

[tifosi1993]

any way, moderators please do lock/erase this thread!

+1

Please lock this stupid thread!

[AfterLife]

any way, moderators please do lock/erase this thread!

Try to get used to this or you can leave this thread.

[AfterLife]

Whoever put up this poll , is either trolling or is clueless.

Now, which is worse I just don't know.

:lou You are whining a lot. Cry me a river.

[AfterLife]

Try to stay calm and let people vote and share their opinion. Constant attacking and insulting are not appropriate behavior especially to those who call themselves Tifosi.

[zike]

any way, moderators please do lock/erase this thread!

Why lock, its funny :lol:lol

[kiwifella]

I have been a fan of Ferrari since the Schumacher days, why? Because they were WINNERS!! The Italian marque is legendary. I cannot imagine a Ferrari without its own engine, never has been and should never, ever be powered by anything else. I might not be as long time a Ferrari fan as all you guys who've supported them for decades, but we all know superior quality when we see/hear/feel it. Ferrari is its own brand, there is nothing quite like it, period.

I'm sure they will eventually pull themselves out of this hole they've put themselves in, big learning curve for everyone I think, just looks like others have got the jump on them at the moment, disappointing for Alonso I'm sure, but honestly Formula 1 without Ferrari........are you kidding me????

In my opinion, Ferrari is Formula 1

Forza!!

[aroutis]

:lou You are whining a lot. Cry me a river.
I am not whining at all. And you've just proved me right.

Whoever put up this poll , is either trolling or is clueless.

Now, which is worse I just don't know.
Apparently you're trolling. :)

Now off to make a case of yourself about how clueless you are. :clap

[stefa]

Try to get used to this or you can leave this thread.

No comment... :-ZZ

[Nova]

Try to get used to this or you can leave this thread.

1st, thats a rude remark. 2nd, I think the idea of coming up with an idea to even come up with this thread idea is bats.
But hey, whatever turns your crank. For a company that was created around engines, this is something you will never see.
But as usual, when Ferrari isnt winning, or is doing poorly, it seems to bring to light threads such as this. U guys can stir whatever, I simply dont care and generally dont bother when I see titles like this.
Just try to be polite, K? No need for anyone to treat people poorly. Have a nice day.

Note: Ferrari will win again, things always have a way of coming good.

[Nero Horse]

Much better the other way round:

Mercedes AMG Petronas Ferrari

I sincerely hope you're joking! And even if you are, it's a really bad joke. :-??

[Nero Horse]

any way, moderators please do lock/erase this thread!


+1

Please lock this stupid thread!

Totally agree. This stupid thread should've been closed already last night! It serves absolutely no purpose, just gives some people the opportunity to troll and humiliate Ferrari...pathetic.

[AfterLife]

But as usual, when Ferrari isnt winning, or is doing poorly, it seems to bring to light threads such as this. U guys can stir whatever, I simply dont care and generally dont bother when I see titles like this.

I didn't make this article because i am fedup with Ferrari not winning. It is just a question. Don't judge quickly. Can you understand?

[AfterLife]

Totally agree. This stupid thread should've been closed already last night! It serves absolutely no purpose, just gives some people the opportunity to troll and humiliate Ferrari...pathetic.

This kind of behavior is pathetic :lou

[shamim179]

I sincerely hope you're joking! And even if you are, it's a really bad joke. :-??

Think you're misunderstanding me here. I wrote it that way so it means what it means that the Ferrari engine is so good that Mercedes will dump their own engine to use the Ferrari engine. Teams coming to us begging to have a Ferrari engine fitted to their cars. That will be the day!

[Bertie]

I think this poll has some value, we can now say that statistically TSN members fall into two groups: 76.39% tifosi and 23.61% 'glory supporters'. Seems about right.

[Rob]

I think this poll has some value, we can now say that statistically TSN members fall into two groups: 76.39% tifosi and 23.61% 'glory supporters'. Seems about right.

easy to support a winning a team. :roll

(havent voted, as i see it as an insult, the engine is the heart of our cars, getting an enemies engine in ours, doenst, never and will ever cross my mind:furious)

[REDARMYSOJA]

I didn't vote because I can't find the "This is the stupidest question ever" option.

[Nero Horse]

This kind of behavior is pathetic :lou

I'm telling the truth. This thread is utterly stupid, no doubt about it, and if you were a real Ferrari fan then you would know how stupid and degrading this thread actually is. I tell you what, if you really can't understand how humiliating this thread is to Ferrari, then go to Monza this year and ask the Tifosi there what they think of your idea of Ferrari starting to use merc engines, then you'll see exactly how idiotic and pathetic this thread is.

[Bertie]

easy to support a winning a team. :roll

I agree. That is why there are so many Man utd fans in the world and also explains the huge increase in Man City fans these days. Oh well I will stick with blackburn rovers. A team is for life not just for christmas lol

[Bertie]

I'm telling the truth. This thread is utterly stupid, no doubt about it, and if you were a real Ferrari fan then you would know how stupid and degrading this thread actually is. I tell you what, if you really can't understand how humiliating this thread is to Ferrari, then go to Monza this year and ask the Tifosi there what they think of your idea of Ferrari starting to use merc engines, then you'll see exactly how idiotic and pathetic this thread is.

That would be a good way to get beaten to death.

[Nero Horse]

I didn't vote because I can't find the "This is the stupidest question ever" option.

Well said. :thumb

[AfterLife]

I didn't vote because I can't find the "This is the stupidest question ever" option.

Good for you

[hudson77]

I agree. That is why there are so many Man utd fans in the world and also explains the huge increase in Man City fans these days. Oh well I will stick with blackburn rovers. A team is for life not just for christmas lol

Rovers still in with a shout for a playoff place Bertie :thumb

[Bertie]

Rovers still in with a shout for a playoff place Bertie :thumb

Fingers crossed for the pride of Lancashire :pray

[zike]

The Ferrari team has achieved unparalleled success in Formula One and holds many significant records including:

Most constructor championships: 16
Most driver championships: 15
Most Grands Prix participated (all-time): 873
Most Grands Prix started (all-time): 871[7]
Most wins (all-time): 221[8]
Most wins (season): 15 (shared with McLaren)
Most podiums (all-time): 677
Most podiums (season): 29
Most one-two finishes (all-time): 81
Most one-two finishes with the same drivers (Michael Schumacher – Rubens Barrichello): 24
Most pole positions (all-time): 207
Most WCC points (all-time): 5,648.5
Most WDC points (all-time): 6,550.27
Most fastest laps (all-time): 229
Most consecutive seasons with at least one victory during a season: 20
Ferrari is also the most successful F1 engine manufacturer, with 222 wins.


and someone would change something called the engine :lol

[abbottcostello]

Well, I decided after some thought to register a vote, for option #1 I'm proud to say!

I still find it incredulous that 17 people here voted for Ferrari either quitting F1 completely or using an outsourced engine, so my question to those still remains, will you switch your loyalties to a different (winning) team next year if (in your mind) Ferrari are still lacking? (Not saying you should or calling you a troll, not trying to insult, just honestly wondering)

My love from the start as a fan of F1 was Ferrari cars with Ferrari engines. Without being melodramatic, I think I can safely say this will not change for me... ever.
Sure there are other cars/drivers that I might root for a little here or there, even be a little happy if they manage a win, I don't even feel like a traitor too much! But always in the end... IT IS ALL ABOUT THE RED CARS!

[fratelliferrari]

I agree. That is why there are so many Man utd fans in the world and also explains the huge increase in Man City fans these days. Oh well I will stick with blackburn rovers. A team is for life not just for christmas lol

Sorry for going off topic Bertie but Blackburn Rovers is my favourite football club of the UK :-D I have been to the Rovers in Ewood Park by bus from the Netherlands with my favourite football club NAC Breda to see a friendly match between the two teams. Maybe you can remember that? :-)

[stefa]

The Ferrari team has achieved unparalleled success in Formula One and holds many significant records including:

Most constructor championships: 16
Most driver championships: 15
Most Grands Prix participated (all-time): 873
Most Grands Prix started (all-time): 871[7]
Most wins (all-time): 221[8]
Most wins (season): 15 (shared with McLaren)
Most podiums (all-time): 677
Most podiums (season): 29
Most one-two finishes (all-time): 81
Most one-two finishes with the same drivers (Michael Schumacher – Rubens Barrichello): 24
Most pole positions (all-time): 207
Most WCC points (all-time): 5,648.5
Most WDC points (all-time): 6,550.27
Most fastest laps (all-time): 229
Most consecutive seasons with at least one victory during a season: 20
Ferrari is also the most successful F1 engine manufacturer, with 222 wins.


and someone would change something called the engine :lol

Amen to that! :bow

[AfterLife]

The Ferrari team has achieved unparalleled success in Formula One and holds many significant records including:

Most constructor championships: 16
Most driver championships: 15
Most Grands Prix participated (all-time): 873
Most Grands Prix started (all-time): 871[7]
Most wins (all-time): 221[8]
Most wins (season): 15 (shared with McLaren)
Most podiums (all-time): 677
Most podiums (season): 29
Most one-two finishes (all-time): 81
Most one-two finishes with the same drivers (Michael Schumacher – Rubens Barrichello): 24
Most pole positions (all-time): 207
Most WCC points (all-time): 5,648.5
Most WDC points (all-time): 6,550.27
Most fastest laps (all-time): 229
Most consecutive seasons with at least one victory during a season: 20
Ferrari is also the most successful F1 engine manufacturer, with 222 wins.

Lovely info. Good Job.

[AfterLife]

I agree. That is why there are so many Man utd fans in the world and also explains the huge increase in Man City fans these days. Oh well I will stick with blackburn rovers. A team is for life not just for christmas lol

It is pitty Ferguson is not there anymore.

[aroutis]

I'm telling the truth. This thread is utterly stupid, no doubt about it, and if you were a real Ferrari fan then you would know how stupid and degrading this thread actually is. I tell you what, if you really can't understand how humiliating this thread is to Ferrari, then go to Monza this year and ask the Tifosi there what they think of your idea of Ferrari starting to use merc engines, then you'll see exactly how idiotic and pathetic this thread is.

No no.. the right place to ask this question is Maranello. I dare him to try that. I 'd like to see him do that and survive. :)

[paneristi]

never ever cross the mind of sane tifosi for Ferrari to use other power plant other than Ferrari's. It's like letting your girl friend to bed with other men because you cannot satisfy her. Train, exercise, eat healthy, use whatever you can, but never let her go to bed with others aka mr. Mercedes or mr. Honda or mr. Renault

[AfterLife]

No no.. the right place to ask this question is Maranello. I dare him to try that. I 'd like to see him do that and survive. :)

There won't be variety in opinions. Maranello is a wrong place to gather opinions. It is the heart of Ferrari and statistics would be meaningless. This forum is the best one to gather opinions. ;-)

[AfterLife]

never ever cross the mind of sane tifosi for Ferrari to use other power plant other than Ferrari's. It's like letting your girl friend to bed with other men because you cannot satisfy her. Train, exercise, eat healthy, use whatever you can, but never let her go to bed with others aka mr. Mercedes or mr. Honda or mr. Renault

Obviously training, exercising and eating healthy are not still allowable because of homologation :lou. The boy must wait.

[racingbradley]

Without the Ferrari engine it just wouldn't be Ferrari :-??

[Bertie]

Sorry for going off topic Bertie but Blackburn Rovers is my favourite football club of the UK :-D I have been to the Rovers in Ewood Park by bus from the Netherlands with my favourite football club NAC Breda to see a friendly match between the two teams. Maybe you can remember that? :-)

Great to hear! Unfortunately I was not there that day. Google has told me it was honours even that day :thumb

To continue off topic (not that it matters this thread isn't too important given the poll question :roll) A masters student visited our lab from the Netherlands about a year and a half ago and we became good friends, I took him to Ewood and we ended up trading teams so I am an honorary PSV fan. I went to visit him last summer (in wageningen) and I have to say you have a beutiful and friendly country. If Breda and Rovers meet again I will be sure to go!

[AfterLife]

Without the Ferrari engine it just wouldn't be Ferrari :-??

As Jas said it would be commercial suicide Ferrari to use non Ferrari power unit. Apparently there is nothing wrong with petrol engine itself. The problems are power unit being overweight, electric motors and how the whole power unit components communicate with each other.
Manufactures will be able to carry out developments between the final race of 2014 and the end of February 2015 when a new homologation period will begin and hopefully all the power unit problems will be gone at that point.

[AfterLife]

To continue off topic . . .
I suggest you to stop off topic talks. One or two off topics are not a problem but continuing off topic in here is not acceptable. Thank you "honorary PSV fan".

[Bertie]

I suggest you to stop off topic talks. One or two off topics are not a problem but continuing off topic in here is not acceptable. Thank you "honorary PSV fan".

I suggest you chill out... I was merely answering a question directed at me. You have ruffled more feathers than me by starting this poll and jumping down the throat of anybody who pointed out the ridiculous nature of the thread. Thank you honorary moderator :-P

[AfterLife]

I am glad you understand.

[Bertie]

Yawn :roll

[REDARMYSOJA]

I think discussing football is a much better use of this thread.

[Nova]

I didn't make this article because i am fedup with Ferrari not winning. It is just a question. Don't judge quickly. Can you understand?

Can I understand..hmmm...At times, especially when my meds kik in...
Do I judge too quickly? Hmmm...At times, especially when my meds dont kik in...
You have some pretty good comebacks by the way.
The polite ones anyway.

The above remarks are opinions and should not be taken out of context, or something...have a nice day:-D

[AfterLife]

I think discussing football is a much better use of this thread.

:-!
You are wrong

[vcs316]

I think discussing football is a much better use of this thread.

So who do you fancy in the 2014 FIFA World Cup? :-D Brazil, Italy, Spain ??

[vcs316]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoD8SCoL-2Q

[fratelliferrari]

So who do you fancy in the 2014 FIFA World Cup? :-D Brazil, Italy, Spain ??

Netherlands :lol NO I don't think we will but, if not I hope Italy :-D

[fratelliferrari]

Great to hear! Unfortunately I was not there that day. Google has told me it was honours even that day :thumb

To continue off topic (not that it matters this thread isn't too important given the poll question :roll) A masters student visited our lab from the Netherlands about a year and a half ago and we became good friends, I took him to Ewood and we ended up trading teams so I am an honorary PSV fan. I went to visit him last summer (in wageningen) and I have to say you have a beutiful and friendly country. If Breda and Rovers meet again I will be sure to go!

That's funny to hear. Sadly you chose the wrong Dutch football club, but hey everyone makes mistakes sometimes :-G Would be nice if the Rovers play against NAC at some point again. I have to say European Football is far away for my club but you never no in the future :-)

[aroutis]

There won't be variety in opinions. Maranello is a wrong place to gather opinions. It is the heart of Ferrari and statistics would be meaningless. This forum is the best one to gather opinions. ;-)
It is not the variety of opinions I would be interesting should you take to the task to ask this question in Maranello. It'd be the consequence to your own health.. lol

[wisepie]

Not into football but I'll still want Italy to win the World Cup, same as I want Ferrari to wipe the floor with everyone else. And you can't have a Ferrari race car without a Ferrari engine, it's sacrilege. And I don't have any Italian blood, so it must be the wine.

[Bertie]

So who do you fancy in the 2014 FIFA World Cup? :-D Brazil, Italy, Spain ??

I had a flutter on Italy and Uruguay because te odds were good (before they ended up in the same group). Realistically I think a south american country will win, either Argentina or Brasil.

[Bertie]

:-!
You are wrong

"This is wide wide world of opinions."

[AfterLife]

There is general discussion thread that you can talk about non Formula1 topics. Below is the link for the members that don't know it yet:
http://www.thescuderia.net/forums/forumdisplay.php/7-TheScuderia-net-General-Discussion

[stefa]

There is general discussion thread that you can talk about non Formula1 topics. Below is the link for the members that don't know it yet:
http://www.thescuderia.net/forums/forumdisplay.php/7-TheScuderia-net-General-Discussion

Obviously people know it, but ignore your thread with meaningless and silly poll, again and again and again.... :lol

[AfterLife]

Obviously people know it, but ignore your thread with meaningless and silly poll, again and again and again.... :lol

Good News! You were crying because of this thread and now you are happy.

[fratelliferrari]

Obviously people know it, but ignore your thread with meaningless and silly poll, again and again and again.... :lol

:thumb

[Nero Horse]

Good News! You were crying because of this thread and now you are happy.

Stop being so smug! It was you who created this idiotic and ridiculous thread and no one else, so the true Ferrari fans here have now the right to criticize and laugh at this farcical garbage that you've created here. So be quiet, and let people discuss football on here, because as was mentioned before by Redarmysoja, it's the best use of this pathetic thread.

[AfterLife]

Stop being so smug! It was you who created this idiotic and ridiculous thread and no one else, so the true Ferrari fans here have now the right to criticize and laugh at this farcical garbage that you've created here. So be quiet, and let people discuss football on here, because as was mentioned before by Redarmysoja, it's the best use of this pathetic thread.

Why do you mix them? I give you useful hint to distinguish them.
You can talk about football in General Discussions forum.
To make it easier for you to understand let's put it this way: You can't talk about football in Forza Ferrari forum.

[Nero Horse]

Why do you mix them? I give you useful hint to distinguish them.
You can talk about football in General Discussions forum.
To make it easier for you to understand let's put it this way: You can't talk about football in Forza Ferrari forum.

You can't make a thread on a Ferrari forum that is so ridiculously stupid and degrading to Ferrari as is this one here, but that didn't stop you from making it, did it?! :-??

[REDARMYSOJA]

I think this thread is at the point it was always going to arrive to.

Locked.