Chinese GP 2014 Race Thread

[SinanOzerS]

Rosberg is so fast.

[LivingHitokiri]

The link i posted got all sector times, with race map and everything you need to know.

[stefa]

Holy ****mate!

YES!!!!!!!!!!

[Kyss4k]

Haha Rosberg 2 secs faster than Alonso now.

[fratelliferrari]

Rosberg cominf fast now :-s

[Rishu]

Ricciardo has 4 laps newer tyres than Alonso, still 9s behind with 16 laps to go. Fight for third place

[Schumiklub]

http://f1.narezka.org/?lang=eng#
Enjoy :)

Awesome! Thanks!

[stefa]

Ricciardo has 4 laps newer tyres than Alonso, still 9s behind with 16 laps to go. Fight for third place

seems so...

[LivingHitokiri]

Holy ****mate!

I thought you guys already knew about this link, otherwise i would post it sooner ,sorry

[Kyss4k]

I hope it won't come down to Alonso finishing 4th after all that. ROS and RIC are flying.

[stefa]

for the time being FA is faster than DR

[stefa]

I thought you guys already knew about this link, otherwise i would post it sooner ,sorry

we didn't. THANK YOU BIG TIME!!!!!

[sachin]

Mercs pace is just ridiculous

[DJTaurus]

Alonso should have stayed 2-3 laps more out......

[stefa]

cccccc, how much faster is that Mercedes.....

[LivingHitokiri]

Wow, that top speed......

[Kyss4k]

for the time being FA is faster than DR

He isn't.

And now down in 3rd.

[stefa]

uffff, DR is som much faster than FA

[stefa]

He isn't.

And now down in 3rd.

Yeah, my bad.... Just saw....

[Kyss4k]

That was... easy.

[fratelliferrari]

Please Fernando get that podium :pray

[FerrariF60]

richardo is closing in quick on ALO....

[sachin]

God it would be a heartbreak if RIC Overtakes us for 3rd:-(

[Rishu]

Ricciardo will catch Alonso. Our only hope: our top speed

[stefa]

S2 is where DR is way faster than FA

[Schumiklub]

We need to stay ahead of DR!

[Katu]

12 laps, i hold my breath so Fernando could keep that place

[Paulpg87]

There is no race with mercedes this year, it's a pity cause wc is already over like 2009 with button e now is Hamilton.. There is nothing really enjoyable in a Championship like this

[DIEK]

I thought you guys already knew about this link, otherwise i would post it sooner ,sorry

+1

Ricciardo has slightly less fuel than than Alo, hope he can hold the third position...

[fratelliferrari]

I think Alonso has the podium in his pocket!

[blaney1977]

I think fernando is keeping enough in hand too keep him behind

[stefa]

I think Alonso has the podium in his pocket!

half in the pocket :-)

[Scuderia85]

come on Fernado push push

[scuderia_nano]

Masala race so far.
Goddamit. Alonso won't let the podium go without a fight.

[Kyss4k]

Alonso now smashing the throttle, hopefully his tyres will hold on :pray

[stefa]

It is good that DR is not gaining so much time on FA

[Schumiklub]

Fernando keeping the gap more or less the same, losing just 1-2 tenths.

[Scuderia85]

Kimi is lost/stuck in the mid field

[S1000RR]

IT comes down to last lap, FA jas tyre deg. Around lap 55, Ric has newer tyres!

[wacc]

http://f1.narezka.org/?lang=eng#
Enjoy :)

Great! Thank you very much for that link :clap

[stefa]

last lap FA was faster than DR

[ElTigro]

The link i posted got all sector times, with race map and everything you need to know.

EPIC Thank you so so much !!!

no more F!A scam app.

It's all good!

[Rishu]

Alonso managing gap to Ricciado +5.6 to +5.8s for past couple of laps, so maybe he has something in his hands

[Kyss4k]

Alonso now faster then Daniel! Hope hope hope!

[ElTigro]

FA got RIC Pegged!!! All under control

[Scuderia85]

And Vettel is lost

[J288GTO]

Kimi is lost/stuck in the mid field

Aye 40 secs behind Fernando. Hope he gets to grips soon. Cars ahead of him not slow though and bad quali didn't help. :-s

Alonso does new PB, life in his tyres yet. Do it for Stefano son! :pray

[ElTigro]

And Vettel is lost

Can't wait to see his face, come the end of the race. It'll be 5 Fingers for Vettel!!

[SinanOzerS]

Hamilton' right rear, wow.

[fratelliferrari]

Flexi wing on that Merc.

[Schumiklub]

Wow, this live timing site is just amazing, I can't stop looking at all the data!

[FerrariF60]

And Vettel is lost

LOL....no more blown ******* diffuser on his Bull this year....getting spanked by Daniel....i'm sure he would have been spanked by WEBBER as well if he was still in it

[ElTigro]

Flexi wing on that Merc.

Pity it wouldn't fall off, lol!

[F2008]

http://f1.narezka.org/?lang=eng#
Enjoy :)

Thanks for sharing ;-)

[stefa]

I think FA is safe now

[Nero Horse]

Come on podium place!!!!!!!

[Katu]

third should be Fernando's

[FerrariF60]

Come on podium place!!!!!!!

we SO MUCH DESERVE IT.....to BOOST up the Ferrari team and work even HARDER with more upgrades for next race in Spain in 3 weeks

[J288GTO]

Wow, this live timing site is just amazing, I can't stop looking at all the data!

Yeah its engrossing! Kimi and Perez were matched sector by sector that last lap.

[rico]

http://f1.narezka.org/?lang=eng#
Enjoy :)

You are the man! I can't really thank you enough for this :clap

[LivingHitokiri]

I think we got ourselves our first podium of the year,come on Fernando !

[Uzair Ahmed]

3rd place looks easy now

[Axelsson]

I'm so nervous right now..

[J288GTO]

Anyone got an idea where this pace came from today on an "engine" track? Is this our real pace?

[Scuderia85]

Push Push Fernado

[stefa]

wish this is a last lap

[FerrariF60]

wish this is a last lap

so much tension.... i cannot take too much of this....

[FerrariFanBoii]

Nervous..

[Kyss4k]

Wow Sky... so they notice Maldonado blocking Ricciardo, but Alonso who was in the same possition lap before is strugling with tyres. Professionals.

[stefa]

so nervous, like last race of the season for title fight

[scuderia_nano]

40 seconds between Alo and Kimi

[Katu]

it's just laps and it's Fernando. i believe he can hold on to his podium place

[J288GTO]

3.308 and 2 laps to go...

[Schumiklub]

Who would have thought I'd be so excited over a third place...

[Kyss4k]

40 seconds between Alo and Kimi

50 now :-??

[ElTigro]

RIC has to not only CATCH but PASS. We are ok!!

[stefa]

Who would have thought I'd be so excited over a third place...

in times like this, this is what we got

[stefa]

last lap

[DJTaurus]

Alonso has closed the gap to Rosberg... just saying. It seems ferrari has great tyre management. Also considering Kimis lack of pace i still cant understand if we are the second best car on the grid or we are watching grande alonso's amazing driving skills.

[DIEK]

LOL....no more blown ******* diffuser on his Bull this year....getting spanked by Daniel....i'm sure he would have been spanked by WEBBER as well if he was still in it

Agree, but, thanks to Vettel, Ricciardo hasn't closer this race! :lol

[stefa]

ferrari need to improve this car and we are ok, at least with FA

[Katu]

Alonso has closed the gap to Rosberg... just saying. It seems ferrari has great tyre management. Also considering Kimis lack of pace i still cant understand if we are the second best car on the grid or we are watching grande alonso's amazing driving skills.

you have missed some news - Ferrari is screwing Kimi for who knows what reason... probably to keep Fernando happy

[stefa]

LH will gwt this years WDC

[Scuderia85]

Thank you Alonso and Ferrari, thank you this made my day!!:clap

[FerrariFanBoii]

Brilliant result today ! Did us all proud Alonso and Ferrari !!! We'll take the positive onto the next race in Spain!

[Kyss4k]

YAY:clap

[brava]

Well done

[Rishu]

Great drive like always from Fernando, he is the best.

[stefa]

Yes

[rico]

WoooooooooHooooooooo!

[fronaldo]

1st podium of this season..lets kick our season back..!!! Great drive Alonso

[stefa]

Thank you ferrari and FA for this great result

[Alonso14]

Thank you, Fernando

[J288GTO]

Alooooooooonso Alooooooooonso Alooooooooonso :clap :clap

Brilliant race compared to last, well pleased for points haul. If this is our pace then the season is not lost. :-)

[radosav]

Great present for Easter ! Thank you Alo!

[Ste]

After Massa's crazy move in turn one, I was surprised we continued but what an awesome drive that was from Alonso.

[FerrariFanBoii]

Made my day! :) woooo!!

[stefa]

podium acheived. Check
now we need to get that at least one win in the season

[Hornet]

Great race by Ferrari and Alonso :ferrarifl

Wouldn't believe we would score a podium after what we saw in Bahrain, but what an improvement. Wished Stefano was here, he deserved this :-)

[Katu]

wonderful result. if it took MM to take over to get it, we should have done it a long time ago

[stefa]

Great present for Easter ! Thank you Alo!

indeed

[Uzair Ahmed]

Amazing drive and perfect strategy by team

[Hornet]

wonderful result. if it took MM to take over to get it, we should have done it a long time ago

He can't possibly do anything for the team this weekend, he's still just learning.

[Greig]

wonderful result. if it took MM to take over to get it, we should have done it a long time ago

He had nothing to do with it.

[fratelliferrari]

Well done Fernando!

[tohellandback]

Fernando ...you genious....we are looking good and progressive

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[Katu]

i know, just joking ;-)

[stefa]

He can't possibly do anything for the team this weekend, he's still just learning.

he was just a spectator at the pit wall

[LivingHitokiri]

Fantastic job from Fernando, brought a much desired podium to the team, bravo.
Tough race for Kimi , he seemed to lose a lot of time in first two stints,much better on last but still way slower.

Now the next race will be hopefully better as we get new parts ( more) so, FORZA FERRARI!

[REDARMYSOJA]

Amazing considering last race. I was afraid we wouldn't see a podium at all this season.

Great drive by Alonso.

Also Hamilton, Rosberg and the Aussie Wonder Ricciardio.

[20000rpm]

Well definitely a proud moment for ferrari. But we must also look as to why kimi is under performing. Remember, we are 5th in WCC. Red Bull probably had one of their low race. Serious development needs to bought to make the car more competitive.

[AfterLife]

Well done Fernando. What a perfect driver :thumb

[stefa]

there was a checkered flag shown to LH in second to last lap?!?!?!

[Katu]

funny to see how Ricciardo shows that Vettel is not so special

[Mile123]

YES! Finally a positive result, showing some promise for next races. Btw, very pleasing to be in front of the RBs, especially Biber. :-D

[Rishu]

Improved top speed
Improved degradation
Improved single lap pace
Improved PU

Well done Ferrari, need more :-)

[Uzair Ahmed]

Nico doesn't look happy

[Katu]

hamilton's haircut - bahahhaaaahaaa

[Alessandra]

What a tremendous drive by Fernando :pass:ferrarifl:ferrarifl

[fronaldo]

Hattrick of 1-2 for Mercedes..Ferrari need to catch them up really really fast

[Rishu]

funny to see how Ricciardo shows that Vettel is not so special

Yeah, makes mockery of 4 titles

[radosav]

funny to see how Ricciardo shows that Vettel is not so special

I love Dan! Just love him!

[stefa]

Hattrick of 1-2 for Mercedes..Ferrari need to catch them up really really fast

to catch them?!?! For the time being that is science fiction!

[DJTaurus]

Rosberg NOT happy....

As for Ferrari just saying to improve is not enough... those mercs are soooooo fast and also other teams will continue to improve.

[sachin]

Whoever comes in 3rd race this year shall be happy..
That will be the story of 2014:roll

[Katu]

i hope this podium is just a beginning

[Katu]

I love Dan! Just love him!

perhaps you support wrong team then?

[stefa]

i hope this podium is just a beginning

hope too

[Nero Horse]

Kimi was almost a minute behind Fernando...well, I guess that's because the whole team is conspiring against Kimi and want him to fail LOL.

[mark p]

Power improved so much. Pulling away on the straight from RedBull even when they had drs and Ferrari did not.

If the worlds media though Ferrari were in crisis with 9th and 10th last race what about McLaren 11th and 13th with the best engine?

[stefa]

strange. FA doesnot look happy....

[Uzair Ahmed]

Theres definitely something going on between nico and Hamilton

[radosav]

perhaps you support wrong team then?

Love him cause he is making Vettel look average! :D

[stefa]

strange. FA doesnot look happy....

somehow reserved

[Uzair Ahmed]

strange. FA doesnot look happy....

Exactly

[Katu]

Love him cause he is making Vettel look average! :D

oh just got me bit confused

[eugene22n]

Those earrings on Hamilton lol ....

[Katu]

it's turning soon bit sour between Nico and Lewis i see

[sachin]

Yeah we keep racking in podiums from 2010 to 2014
But when we get a monster car like RB7 or this years Merc

Just its a rubbish feeling seeing Alonso even in 3rd and feeling that he is loosing time

[Tony]

How the heck did Alonso lose so much time in the last 20-25 laps? Was it a bad set of tyres or does the Ferrari still become unstable as the fuel burns like last year???

[stefa]

it's turning soon bit sour between Nico and Lewis i see

it is from the beggining

[eugene22n]

Who is more bratty Vettel or Rosberg?

[radosav]

Exactly

He is probably tired ! He smiles now!

[rico]

Hattrick of 1-2 for Mercedes..Ferrari need to catch them up really really fast

For the time being we must ensure this result is not one-off. Personally I will wait for the next race and not start celebrating for this podium.

[stefa]

For the time being we must ensure this result is not one-off. Personally I will wait for the next race and not start celebrating for this podium.

we need to build from this

[Katu]

Who is more bratty Vettel or Rosberg?

Vettel for sure

[Wildcat]

Alonso doesn't seem too happy

[FerrariF60]

strange. FA doesnot look happy....

would you be with 3rd place???

[stefa]

what a chear from spectators

[wacc]

Good result for a dog car and mediocre team. Bravo. :clap

[stefa]

would you be with 3rd place???

normaly I won't. but in these curcumstances I would

[rico]

we need to build from this

Exactly :-) No time for exaggerations. Just hard work from everybody in the team and support from the fans

[F2008]

This race would have been very very boring without Alonso. Incredible performance :clap

[sachin]

How much more does Lewis wants Merc to improve their engine

:-s

[FerrariF60]

How much more does Lewis wants Merc to improve their engine

:-s

he's talking nonsense, DEEP down he knows they're being haunted by FERRARI....hopefully we'll do it SOONER rather then LATER

[fronaldo]

We need to improve much for Alonso and especially Kimi..

[JacKy]

Wowww guys. Good Result. I didn't expect that strong race like this. I mean i'm not. Not at all...

Raikkonen... what is wrong with this guy ? He could beat Vettel at least.

[NickEice]

How the heck did Alonso lose so much time in the last 20-25 laps? Was it a bad set of tyres or does the Ferrari still become unstable as the fuel burns like last year???

I think we were managing the tires and fuel. We knew we couldn't keep Rosberg behind so we protected against Ricciardo. When Alonso had to push with about 10 laps to go he picked up 0.8/lap. We had pace in the bag, just conserving the car and making sure we got it to the flag.

[Nathan]

Good podium today, but difficult for Raikkonen. Hopefully our car will only improve from here.

[fronaldo]

For the time being we must ensure this result is not one-off. Personally I will wait for the next race and not start celebrating for this podium.
China really suits us more but clearly we're improved..but in Spain massive improvement is a must..Celebrate for a moment and back to business

[Kingdom Hearts]

I don't know how much they pay Fernando but he deserves the double.

Perfect job by the pitwall and mechanics. Avanti!.

[SashAlex]

Nice one! At least a podium. Hopefully, this is a start for an uphill direction.

Nando, was fantabulous, as usual. :)))

Kimi has got to pick it up.

[sachin]

China really suits us more but clearly we're improved..but in Spain massive improvement is a must..Celebrate for a moment and back to business

Absolutely,China suited us a bit more than RBR.
We just can't have any more hiccups(downgrades)
We have keep pace with RBRs upgrades through the season

[Nero Horse]

Well, that was definitely much better than two weeks ago! It's clear that we have made a positive step forward. Great drive by Fernando and a pretty good steady drive from Kimi as well. Considering where we were two weeks ago, this result is simply fantastic. If we can make an even bigger step forward in Spain then we could even bring the fight to the Mercs. Let's hope so. Our car certainly looked more stable and much faster throughout this weekend, so there's no doubt that we have made some significant progress. May this upcurve in form long continue!!!

Oh and btw, that girlfriend of Alonso's brings him good luck, mark my words. Every time when she's there in the pits then Alonso gets at least a podium place. So Fernando should definitely bring her along more often. ;-)

[Hornet]

Watching the replay, we were very lucky the contact didn't damaged Alonso's suspension. The bump was hard enough to lift Massa's wheel off the ground :-E

[Jose-Lorca Fan]

Vettel being shown up for the here by Ricciardo. The longer this continues the more Alonso is proven right regarding Vettel's over reliance on a fast car.

[tifosi1993]

Great job from Ferrari and Alonso. Alonso was simply sublime today, well done. Sad for SD, if only he waited a little longer to make his decision....

Good damage limitation race from Kimi, but he needs to step it up.

[FerrariFanBoii]

Alonso needs his girlfriend in the pit lane every race, always performs even better when she's around! ;D

[Nero Horse]

Bravo to all the engineers and mechanics in the pits and back in Maranello who have worked hard and made this improvement happen! :clap

[DJTaurus]

If Vettel did not hold back Ric before the second stop i am not sure if Alonso would finish 3rd... Rocky was very confident that they will fight back.... red fools were 20km slower than mercs on the straights. I still dont believe that we have the second best car in the grid considering Kimis performance.... Its all about Alonsos driving skills.

[SinanOzerS]

If Vettel did not hold back Ric before the second stop i am not sure if Alonso would finish 3rd... Rocky was very confident that they will fight back.... red fools were 20km slower than mercs on the straights. I still dont believe that we have the second best car in the grid considering Kimis performance.... Its all about Alonsos driving skills.

Agreed.

[sachin]

Looking at the point's standings,we have been best of the resr for so many years now.
Time to be BEST now.

[pluto]

Alonso is making Kimi look like Massa. I wonder if he will finally be given credit or everyone will just make excuses again? Kimi is not comfortable which usually means being a few tenths slower than a normal driver but against Alonso that means 1 second a lap. Nice progress by the team the car seems quite decent although how much of that is Alonso doing miracles again? Just compare Kimi's pace in the Lotus when he returned to F1, with no experience with new tyres cars, he was fighting at the front, not midfield.

[SinanOzerS]

Time to some upgrade guys, we have to do it. Forza FERRARI :ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl

[fronaldo]

Did anyone know chequered flag showed at the end of lap 54...!! Kobayashi move on Bianchi not count..see @cmckinleyF1 tweets

[Nero Horse]

If Vettel did not hold back Ric before the second stop i am not sure if Alonso would finish 3rd... Rocky was very confident that they will fight back.... red fools were 20km slower than mercs on the straights. I still dont believe that we have the second best car in the grid considering Kimis performance.... Its all about Alonsos driving skills.

I believe that we do have the second best car, or at least very close to it. Kimi had some mechanical problems throughout this weekend so it's natural that he struggled quite a bit in the race.

[JacKy]

Traction of F1-4T was suprizingly good!!! Better than even RB , better than all the other teams except Mercedes. I'm look forward to barcelona..

[LivingHitokiri]

Alonso is making Kimi look like Massa. I wonder if he will finally be given credit or everyone will just make excuses again? Kimi is not comfortable which usually means being a few tenths slower than a normal driver but against Alonso that means 1 second a lap. Nice progress by the team the car seems quite decent although how much of that is Alonso doing miracles again? Just compare Kimi's pace in the Lotus when he returned to F1, with no experience with new tyres cars, he was fighting at the front, not midfield.
Something is weird tho, if you check Kimi's fastest lap it was on part with Fernando's and it was much sooner with heavier load,it happen right on when he was fighting with perez.
The thing is, either he got some problems with balance issue on different stages or the lack of running on Friday and Saturday was too much for his racing setup. He only managed to run FP 2 ,while missing FP1 and doing 1 lap on FP 3 while being wet.

Im not worried tho,give it some time and Kimi will get more comfortable in general and then we will get even better results.

[Greig]

Better showing from Ferrari (well Alonso) but it's going to take a massive effort to overhaul Mercedes now. Well done to the team though on making a decent step forward just as they said they would in China (even though the doom and gloom members told us we would make no gains after the Bahrain test.) Hopefully Kimi can perform a little bit better as currently he is not even close to matching Alonso, who would have thought it!

[Muhammad Ansib]

Fernando was on Fire in the openning stages like someone had set fire to his trousers. Thank God we are getting a bit better starts finally this season, But Man Massa's Williams is no Slouch off the line. But fernando's race-craft is mighty, Choosing his battles wisely!

[tifosi1993]

http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/popup/sutton/2013/dms1420ap243.jpg

[Laferrari]

Something is weird tho, if you check Kimi's fastest lap it was on part with Fernando's and it was much sooner with heavier load,it happen right on when he was fighting with perez.
The thing is, either he got some problems with balance issue on different stages or the lack of running on Friday and Saturday was too much for his racing setup. He only managed to run FP 2 ,while missing FP1 and doing 1 lap on FP 3 while being wet.

Im not worried tho,give it some time and Kimi will get more comfortable in general and then we will get even better results.


In the last stint fernando was not in pushing mode in the beginning because he was nursing his tyre to get them longer ...so his best time was not relevant.Fernando is a great racer , kimi was looking like massa...but kimi needs to have a car in the right spot to compete with fernando .China is not his favorite track.Clear picture of everyone will be Barcelona .I still think we are behind redbull but with the best driver of the grid we can compete with them.
We improve a lot the engine , drivability was way better for fernando.
Vettel....hmmmm:lol he is a joke!Riccardo kill him in qualy ...but destroy him in the RACE!!!! incredible.4 time champion...:roll imagien riccardo with rocketship from 2010,2011,2012 unbelievable.Vettel is destroying his legend by himselft...if fernando was in the same team he will have lapped him in the middle of the grand prix.Everyone in Redbull will understand that riccardo is the best driver and will be the center of the team.Vettel will go to Redbull if the situation stay the same.Vettel will go to a clash with the team because he will not accept that someone will beat thim in this sort with team order already...haha

[Muhammad Ansib]

In the last stint fernando was not in pushing mode in the beginning because he was nursing his tyre to get them longer ...so his best time was not relevant.Fernando is a great racer , kimi was looking like massa...but kimi needs to have a car in the right spot to compete with fernando .China is not his favorite track.Clear picture of everyone will be Barcelona .I still think we are behind redbull but with the best driver of the grid we can compete with them.
We improve a lot the engine , drivability was way better for fernando.
Vettel....hmmmm:lol he is a joke!Riccardo kill him in qualy ...but destroy him in the RACE!!!! incredible.4 time champion...:roll imagien riccardo with rocketship from 2010,2011,2012 unbelievable.Vettel is destroying his legend by himselft...if fernando was in the same team he will have lapped him in the middle of the grand prix.Everyone in Redbull will understand that riccardo is the best driver and will be the center of the team.Vettel will go to Redbull if the situation stay the same.Vettel will go to a clash with the team because he will not accept that someone will beat thim in this sort with team order already...haha
MArk Hughes of Autosport in the Columns "The Title fight that turned on tyre failures " has written "Essentially the car's downforce enabled it to go through fast corners at a speed that overwhelmed the 2013 tyre. If they wanted to get competitive stint lengths its drivers had to use only a fraction of its performance through the fast turns. To an extent this was true of most cars - but much more so with the RB9.
Pirelli, which was seeing the loads generated by every car, estimated in Malaysia for the second GP that on proper, all-out performance tyres capable of transferring the aero loads, the Red Bull could be winning races by a lap...".." such was the genius of Adrain Newey !!

[Alessandra]

Just want to add......excellent work from the garage mechanics,; the norm these days:clap

[gazoz]

Just want to add......excellent work from the garage mechanics,; the norm these days:clap

agreed Huge Congrats :thumb

[Nero Horse]

All in all this was a positive weekend. A nice boost for the team. It's good to go forward from here and hopefully we'll get only better and faster.

Forza Ferrari!!! :ferrarifl

[brembo man]

Agreed.

If Lewis came in 4th, Alonso woud finish 2nd. If means nothing, take the 3rd place podium and love Ferrari and Alonso's success this race. No if's or buts about it Alonso is the best.

[Alonsomaniac]

We definitely made a step forward, although it is always difficult to judge how good - or bad - a car is with Fernando behind the wheel. The result was good, the best there was to achieve today.
What really starts to worry me though is the difference between our drivers.
Both Mercedes drivers, both RB drivers were relatively close together, but there was almost a minute between both Ferrari drivers. That's not normal and certainly not good for the WCC points.
To this moment I haven't heard of any technical problems during the race for Kimi.
I know Rosberg had no telemetry which made it difficult for him at times, but still he finished within reasonable distance of Lewis.
Now we can say it is all new to Kimi , the car , the team and so on, but the cars are new to everyone.....and the team, well he already knew the team didn't he?
Besides that, doesn't the same go for Ricciardo?
I don't know what the problem is, but it has to be solved very quickly if it's technical. If it's Kimi, he has to up his game from this moment on, because it is in no way possible that Fernando is so much faster.

[Suzie]

Just want to add......excellent work from the garage mechanics,; the norm these days:clap

Yeah, not to sound like Alan Partridge but that first(?) stop of Alonso's they showed was textbook. I feel jealous ;-)

Alonso was excellent today.

[PadGeT]

The car was excellent today. :-ZZ
The team was excellent today!
EDIT - I haven't watched the race yet. :-(

[zike]

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Alonso and Kimi?

[Gould]

Yup, great race by SF and by Alonso. I was sure yesterday we were in for a 4th or 5th place as a maximum. Hopefully we can keep the development going in the PU and get Kimi up to speed as well. We need him to keep the constructors points away from RBR.

[Suzie]

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Alonso and Kimi?

Nah that looks like Roberta to me.

[Bertie]

Great race from Alonso. He is the man!!!! Great to see Ferrari made a good step forward!!!! Kimi needs to up his game and i'm sure he will.

Massa vs alonso at the start had my heart in my mouth Alonso super brave to keep his foot in. Sorry to say but massa was out of order. Not for going for the gap which was risky to say the least (moving five car widths across the circuit with such aggression when lots of cars fighting for space is kind of asking for trouble) but for insisting it was Alonso's fault (Alonso cast no blame on Felipe as he had not seen the replay). It is also of note that when the accident took place massa didn't keep his foot in and backed bottas into rosberg initiating a further collision. But hey its racing no hard feelings just observations.

Alonso's race craft was good, not defending against rosberg to maximise his ability to defend 3rd from ric was a good move.

I think 3 stops would of been a faster way but has to be teamed with good performance on the straights to make the strategy work think FI and williams missed a trick there.

The under-cut to get past vet was a good call think RB left RIC out too long in first stint. Vet not being able to pass Alonso and vet being out-classed by ric made was fun to watch.

Great way to start the day it nearly takes the edge off having to go into the lab today, at least I will be smiling while experimenting!!!

Happy easter everyone and Forza Ferrari :ferrarifl :pass :ferrarifl :dance

[tifosi1993]

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Alonso and Kimi?

Kimi and his race engineer.

[Suzie]

Whoops yes, it is in fact Antonio (sorry Roberta.)

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[tifosi1993]

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[wisepie]

Thankfully a podium at last and well deserved, my heart was in my mouth when Fernando and Felipe came together, that could have been a disaster for both of them and me. Progress certainly, but we need so much more and I don't think anyone will catch the Mercs any time soon, if at all. As for Lewis and his earrings and haircut and mid-Atlantic drawl, I've had enough already. But we beat the Bulls, a great effort from FA, shame Kimi couldn't better 8th but well done SF for restoring my faith.:thumb

[Alonsomaniac]

There are a lot of complaints about this years F1 by fans, but we must not forget the one thing that has improved the sport very much:
we don't see The Finger anymore.........:nana

[Bertie]

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Thanks for posting it seems on average we lose 10kph to merc power. Lets see this come down with better power delivery and traction.

[F2008]

Massa vs alonso at the start had my heart in my mouth Alonso super brave to keep his foot in. Sorry to say but massa was out of order. Not for going for the gap which was risky to say the least (moving five car widths across the circuit with such aggression when lots of cars fighting for space is kind of asking for trouble)

Watching the replay I would say Massa kept his line nicely. They touched because Alonso moved to the inside, it has nothing to do with Massa previously repositioning himself because the car in front closed the door. It is very clear from the onboard footage of Rosberg's car.

[fronaldo]

Kimi only 4km/h down from Rosberg in straight line speed..improved much

[Bertie]

Watching the replay I would say Massa kept his line nicely. They touched because Alonso moved to the inside, it has nothing to do with Massa previously repositioning himself because the car in front closed the door. It is very clear from the onboard footage of Rosberg's car.

I have seen lots of footage. It is a right hand corner taken at much lower speed than on normal lap. Alonso was always going to move right as its the racing line so massa should of been aware and not positioned himself in the middle of two cars. Like I said in my post I have no problem with massa's move he went for a gap although risky. I just didn't like the blame game he played. It was the pit-stop (due to tyers being wrong i.e. left hand tyer on the right and vice versa) that cost him not the 1st corner.

[Liscia]

Thanks to our team and drivers for this result! It was not a
victory but it showed we are in recovery and we must continue to
improve to reduce the deficit in speed and points to Mercedes.

[pluto]

Watching the replay I would say Massa kept his line nicely. They touched because Alonso moved to the inside, it has nothing to do with Massa previously repositioning himself because the car in front closed the door. It is very clear from the onboard footage of Rosberg's car.

massa tried to go between 2 cars in a tiny gap that was closing. his fault.

[F2008]

Alonso was always going to move right as its the racing line so massa should of been aware and not positioned himself in the middle of two cars.

Alonso turned in on Massa before the actual corner, although it was difficult for Alonso to judge the situation.

[Suzie]

That was some whack both cars took!

http://i.imgur.com/5s6pEyo.gif

http://i.imgur.com/hKAU5NG.gif

[DJTaurus]

Rics competitiveness shows that Webo was not that great after all......?

[radosav]

Kimi only 4km/h down from Rosberg in straight line speed..improved much

not so sure, this track suited us more !

[varun]

Excellent race,Great result for Alonso.
I believe Kimi will get his act together and the team get a car to his liking maybe.

The question is whether there is any chance or miracles and can we close the those Silver Rockets?

[Senna4Ever]

Rics competitiveness shows that Webo was not that great after all......?

Could be ... but first it shows where Vettel is when has to drive cars that are not in his comfort and without getting blown ...

was not able to watch the whole race as our easter celebrations took place at the same time ...

Congrats to the Team for the good strategy and superb pit stops

For me ... I'm pleased and glad to tell my childrens once from this great driver at Ferrari. Of course he might not be the easiest guy to handle. And he might not reach the same amount of titles like Schumacher. But still for me Alonso is in the same league as Michael was ...

[Rob]

Vettel being shown up for the here by Ricciardo. The longer this continues the more Alonso is proven right regarding Vettel's over reliance on a fast car.

Think Vettel is really hurting from not having the EBDs and the rear glued to the track. Just look at Webber the start of 2012, he was beating Vettel until RBR redsigned the rear.

[giodap]

Yeah, not to sound like Alan Partridge but that first(?) stop of Alonso's they showed was textbook. I feel jealous ;-)

Alonso was excellent today.

Back of the net ..... ;-)

[Bertie]

Alonso turned in on Massa before the actual corner, although it was difficult for Alonso to judge the situation.


Didn't turn in just took up the racing line (taking a shallow diagonal to the appex) following vet in front and covering Ric. Massa put him self in Alonso's blind spot and left himself no room to move. Like I said he could of been more aware. Also I don't see why you are arguing with me about this: I say again I did not have a problem with massa going for a risky gap but rather the blame game. Hope you get my point this time instead of replying to half my quote and therefore using it out of context :roll

[fronaldo]

not so sure, this track suited us more !
I know..but majority of journalist said Ferrari's improvement in PU help in straight line speeds..plus its pretty competitive with other Mercedes powered car

[Jose-Lorca Fan]

From 3:50 onwards:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xg6xieQFdg

[Sanomas]

The race did goes well for Ferrari (I think!).

Fernando did a great job, he took the position that he could... and for Kimi, not that all bad!

Oh and by the Massa and Fernando incident, I'm not really sure what's the Felipe did out there with contacting to Fernando's car, the other Williams did the same thing to other's at first corner, can't really tell what's wrong with their cars (or drivers)?!


Ferrari gave us a nearly expecting result from this race... hopefully it'll be a win the next one!

[Ed Harley]

I'm happy for FA's podium and completely gutted for KR's result.

[Hermann]

Fernando knows how that feels too well- Vettel is just learning it. At least we can all see now what how good driver he really is without his favourite 'gimmicks'...

[PadGeT]

Think Vettel is really hurting from not having the EBDs and the rear glued to the track. Just look at Webber the start of 2012, he was beating Vettel until RBR redsigned the rear.

:clap

[redkid]

Great bounce back from Ferrari!Congrats to all the guys from Maranello to the Pit crews and a very nice welcome for Marco and a nice send off for Stefano!I was crossing my fingers that maybe with some stroke of good luck for us, Rosber's Merc would encounter some issues due to absence of telemetry etc and in effect would give Nando 2nd place...but 3rd is very much a welcome considering where were at in the previous race.

I love Vettel's reaction when a Caterham (was it Ericcson?) overtook him, it's as if he was very surprised though his race engineer advised him that the Caterham (lapped car I guess) is on fresher tires and come 2 to 3 laps it'll all be worn out:lol. Ricciardo is now the "Alpha Bull" performance wise, he's making Vettel look like an ordinary racer:-D.

Here's hoping for more Ferrari updates and successes...Forza Ferrari!:thumb

[PadGeT]

I love Vettel's reaction when a Caterham (was it Ericcson?) overtook him, it's as if he was very surprised though his race engineer advised him that the Caterham (lapped car I guess) is on fresher tires and come 2 to 3 laps it'll all be worn out:lol. Ricciardo is now the "Alpha Bull" performance wise, he's making Vettel look like an ordinary racer:-D.



Exactly, I was hoping someone would mention that. I love Vettel's sense of humour.

[F2008]

Didn't turn in just took up the racing line

The racing line is on the left side of the track near the 50m board and doesn't even apply at the start.

[FerrariF60]

Fernando knows how that feels too well- Vettel is just learning it. At least we can all see now what how good driver he really is without his favourite 'gimmicks'...

true that mate, i couldn't have put in better words myself; Pettel without the EBD, exotic engine maps....etc, etc.....is like a bird without it's wings..

i said it time and time again, Webber was way stronger then him at teh beginning of last year before they and by they i mean Newey "sorted" out the exhaust ramp/blown diffuser per say....

and this year hes' getting shcooled by Ricchardo......i LOVE it....

now we'll see if he's won all those WDC on merit, or was it 90% car....LOLOLOLOLOL

Like Alonso has said it, now we'll see what HE DOES with a car that is normal to the others.....because we all know what ALONSO has done with an inferior car all this time he was at FERRARI....

[Nand0Nand0]

The racing line is on the left side of the track and doesn't even apply at the start.

I was told by another forum member elsewhere that there is no such thing as a racing line. Once I thought about that it actually made complete sense

[eddie]

This race really prove where FA is over driving the car (was going to type cow)

[eddie]

I was told by another forum member elsewhere that there is no such thing as a racing line. Once I thought about that it actually made complete sense

Right on F2008, there isn't a line at the start. After that the racing line is the line that all drivers use to get the best time off the lap.

Anywhere else is just marbles... lol @ Pirelli. Not too long ago I picked one up almost the size of a golf ball...

[eddie]

I'm happy for FA's podium and completely gutted for KR's result.

KR is doing his max the car can give. FA as we all know will drive 120% off any car... he will literally drive the wheels off it

[eddie]

From 3:50 onwards:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xg6xieQFdg

On the mark, FA... SV just as good as the car. DR giving him a lot of potential headaches.. LOL! They could do a MW on DR... smaller KERS... LOL!

[SilverSpeed]

Started watching F1 in my bed as it would get boring again I quickly could go back to sleep.

To bad Fernando had other plans and I watched the whole race haha.

[RedPassion]

On the mark, FA... SV just as good as the car. DR giving him a lot of potential headaches.. LOL! They could do a MW on DR... smaller KERS... LOL!
Sic Transit Gloria Mundi :rotfl
Interesting times for Sebastian indeed,now we are starting to see how good he really is,if it continues that way he may well being destroying his own career,we will see!

[Alonsomaniac]

As far as the Alonso/Massa incident is concerned, to me that are just things that happen at starts. Nobody wants it, but they all look for that gap that sometimes turns out not to be there. They are racers.
So to me nothing special, and nobody to blame.

[Hermann]

As far as the Alonso/Massa incident is concerned, to me that are just things that happen at starts. Nobody wants it, but they all look for that gap that sometimes turns out not to be there. They are racers.
So to me nothing special, and nobody to blame.

I agree, but looks as if Massa had a different idea about whom to blame.

[Alonsomaniac]

I agree, but looks as if Massa had a different idea about whom to blame. Yes of course.......you feel a bang and the first thing you think: someone hit me! (you never think: I hit someone when you are a racingdriver :lol )

[stefa]

I knew that I heard LH over the team radio asking what the hell is going on?!?! :-)

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113573

[REDARMYSOJA]

I knew that I heard LH over the team radio asking what the hell is going on?!?! :-)

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113573

Yeah, Lewis wasn't hallucinating. I thought at first he was joking, but the announcers saw it as well.

Funny, I have seen some Red Bull fans claim it robbed Ricciardio of the position. They could still be running and he wasn't getting past Alonso.

[Katu]

I knew that I heard LH over the team radio asking what the hell is going on?!?! :-)

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113573

i heard it too, but i thoght Lewis was just seeing things, since he didn't see a car whole race

[Hornet]

Yeah, Lewis wasn't hallucinating. I thought at first he was joking, but the announcers saw it as well.

Funny, I have seen some Red Bull fans claim it robbed Ricciardio of the position. They could still be running and he wasn't getting past Alonso.

Looks to me like Ric and Alonso raced till lap 56 anyway so it wouldn't have made any difference. Wonder what they saw that suggest the drivers wasn't racing anymore, lol

[Nova]

Podium..Glad for that...Still cant see why we cannot get 2 cars running at the same level, but thats the way it is right now.
We def needed a good showing. Good job by the team, lets move it up another notch.

[gjoko-mkd]

Dirty Fernando Alonso:rotfl



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVXe_Z2Z-r8

[Bertie]

The racing line is on the left side of the track near the 50m board and doesn't even apply at the start.

The right side is the racing (preferred) line off the start because the speed is a lot lower than a normal lap. Going deep into turn one and going the long way round i.e. the left side means being hung out to dry. Don't pretend to not understand.

[Bertie]

[QUOTE=gjoko-mkd;840714]Dirty Fernando Alonso:rotfl

:rotfl

Needed that laugh cheers

[DJTaurus]

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[Kiwi Nick]

Dirty Fernando Alonso:rotfl



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVXe_Z2Z-r8

Is this what they call a "Spanish handshake?"

[killer]

There are a lot of complaints about this years F1 by fans, but we must not forget the one thing that has improved the sport very much:
we don't see The Finger anymore.........:nana

Yeah now we get to see "The Haircut". :-)

Great gains shown by the team; cautiously optimistic about the European leg but very hopeful we can sustain the improvement. Improvement in traction and downforce should be good for Catalunya but tyre performance--as usual--is the wildcard.

[Alesi1]

One of the most satisfying things is hearing 'Sebastian let Daniel overtake' messages. Great stuff. So much for the best driver ever. Bit ridiculous really, but he never was dominant over a teammate till the exhaust blowing gizmo was un and running. Remember him asking for a new chassis after he was flogged by webbo in Monaco 2010. No disrespect to Dan, but he hasn't been toweling up his previous teammates. If he can do this then what would Alonso or Hamilton be doing to him.

[ALO]

Dirty Fernando Alonso:rotfl



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVXe_Z2Z-r8

nice chuckle thanks, I would have gone for the grabass :-P

Good work Ferrari TEAM nice updates! Nice drive Alonso!

[abbottcostello]

Dirty Fernando Alonso:rotfl





Nice shot Nando, little "shocker" for the cameraman, love those behind the scenes glimpses!
EDIT: Just noticed it was on live broadcast as well, no chance for anyone to edit it out! :haha:

[abbottcostello]

Nice job & good work by the whole team, I just want to say thank you as well to Stefano Domenicalli since initiatives started under his direction were likely what gave the gains we saw today (just a little sad to see him go I guess! :-s ).

Anyhow a great drive by Alonso & still some work to do to get Kimi on pace, but that will come soon, can't believe reporter's are even questioning his lack of "motivation" as the cause for finishing behind Alonso, ridiculous! A statistic some may have missed... Fernando improved 2 places over his grid position & Kimi improved 3 places over his grid position, so I am happy with both of our driver's performances!

I think Ferrari will be making steady gains, the only question is how much & how those gains compare to the other teams.

The race has brightened my outlook for the rest of this season & I hope Marco adds an improved focus & does everything he can to better the chances for the team to succeed.

[Stormsearcher]

I agree, but looks as if Massa had a different idea about whom to blame.

Doesnt he always! lol..

In all fairness, he was just trying a brave move and it didnt pan out. The likes of FA, SV, LH dont scare easily and he got the short end of the stick. Happens in racing!