Alonso and the Italian press

[Kingdom Hearts]

I wonder if we have any fan here that lives in Italy and can explain why the Italian press is so weird with Alonso. For example he is getting eights for the China GP when the International press is giving him tens or nines (plus winning all the poll of driver of the day), then we have Leo Turrini saying that the only thing he has done in this last 5 years is build his ego, and he blames him for not improving the car.

This is a trend that has being going since 2013.

Taking into account what Alonso has done in the past 5 years for Ferrari, I think they should be grateful but I guess they have another thing in ther minds.

[Meiga]

I wonder if we have any fan here that lives in Italy and can explain why the Italian press is so weird with Alonso. For example he is getting eights for the China GP when the International press is giving him tens or nines (plus winning all the poll of driver of the day), then we have Leo Turrini saying that the only thing he has done in this last 5 years is build his ego, and he blames him for not improving the car.

This is a trend that has being going since 2013.

Taking into account what Alonso has done in the past 5 years for Ferrari, I think they should be grateful but I guess they have another thing in ther minds.

Leo Turrini? :lol

He is a self-confessed anti-Alonsoist. I don't even consider him a proper journalist, given his tendency to spread rumours without source and half-invented conversations without clarifying which part is true and which his own invention.

I agree on the change in heart from La Gazzetta, though. It does not bode well.

[Alesi1]

The Italian press are a laughing stock. Would ignore them. Totally unappreciative of Alonso

What more do they want. Anyone who knows anything about f1 knows the ferrari was at best a 5th placer in the last gp. Alonso skill got t to third. Still he only gets 8 come on

[Hornet]

Isn't that Leo guy the person who claimed Ferrari wants to get rid of Kimi. People like him aren't journalist.

[wisepie]

The Italian press are a law unto themselves, they never give any credit unless Ferrari are winning but in my opinion they had more time for Alonso and Kimi than they ever had for Felipe after his accident. Fair enough, Felipe's results didn't do him justice, but I met several Italians who laughed when I mentioned my support for Felipe, especially those at Monza last year, where Felipe came round the first lap in 2nd place! There's no rhyme nor reason to some of the comments La Gazzetta and Autosprint come out with, but at least they cover Ferrari in depth, just as the British press promote Lewis incessantly. It's the way of the world, especially in the media.

[Meiga]

The Italian press are a law unto themselves, they never give any credit unless Ferrari are winning but in my opinion they had more time for Alonso and Kimi than they ever had for Felipe after his accident. Fair enough, Felipe's results didn't do him justice, but I met several Italians who laughed when I mentioned my support for Felipe, especially those at Monza last year, where Felipe came round the first lap in 2nd place! There's no rhyme nor reason to some of the comments La Gazzetta and Autosprint come out with, but at least they cover Ferrari in depth, just as the British press promote Lewis incessantly. It's the way of the world, especially in the media.

From what I have read here and elsewhere, Felipe Massa was very unfairly treated by the press in general and particularly so by the Brazilian media. A shame, because I understand that it affected both him and his family while he had done nothing to deserve such treatment.

[Hornet]

Yep, the media were often very critical of Massa, and often create rumors that Massa will be fired mid season. I'm glad Massa is now beating Bottas, that should shut the critics up.

[Alesi1]

From what I have read here and elsewhere, Felipe Massa was very unfairly treated by the press in general and particularly so by the Brazilian media. A shame, because I understand that it affected both him and his family while he had done nothing to deserve such treatment.

That was the exact problem, he did nothing to help his cause. (just kidding). I think he put te car where it deserved to be just as Kimi is doing now.

[Nova]

If u look at history (of Ferrari), the Italian press was never really kind to Enzo or the Scuderia.

[Hunkelberg]

As far as Alonso and his critics go, I see that Alonso is cerebral and cephalic enough to see the truth for himself. That is what makes him "complete" driver. He is witty enough to stay out, persevere and nail it when it matters. Pure intelligence. You can see it from the interviews. Vettel is good as well. Again, you can see it from spontaneous interviews.

Regarding Massa being faster than Bo77as. Massa is not exactly setting Bottas on fire.

I am genuinely worried about people like Massa, the mass of people who are behind the canonical "latino" stereotype. AKA "passionate", "impulsive", "temperamental" ones. The ones that are prone to justify things in rather superstitious way, which is clearly delusional way most of the time. Those are more vulnerable to the opinions from outside being extroverts most of the time.

Putting that aside, having given it a thought, I say of the current pilots on the grid, Kamui Kobayashi would give most trouble to anyone given the same machinery. Why ? He has the typical Japanese trait - unbendable will power that takes him through tough times, annealing and toughening his character along the way. Given enough opportunity he will cut through anyone like hot knife through the butter. Japanese fans see it. I guess some of non japanese fans see it as well.

ps: you might assume I am a little drunk.

[Nero Horse]

The home press is always the most critical one towards their own national team in any country, that's how it's always been and always will be. Nothing new or surprising about it.

[wisepie]

As far as Alonso and his critics go, I see that Alonso is cerebral and cephalic enough to see the truth for himself. That is what makes him "complete" driver. He is witty enough to stay out, persevere and nail it when it matters. Pure intelligence. You can see it from the interviews. Vettel is good as well. Again, you can see it from spontaneous interviews.

Regarding Massa being faster than Bo77as. Massa is not exactly setting Bottas on fire.

I am genuinely worried about people like Massa, the mass of people who are behind the canonical "latino" stereotype. AKA "passionate", "impulsive", "temperamental" ones. The ones that are prone to justify things in rather superstitious way, which is clearly delusional way most of the time. Those are more vulnerable to the opinions from outside being extroverts most of the time.

Putting that aside, having given it a thought, I say of the current pilots on the grid, Kamui Kobayashi would give most trouble to anyone given the same machinery. Why ? He has the typical Japanese trait - unbendable will power that takes him through tough times, annealing and toughening his character along the way. Given enough opportunity he will cut through anyone like hot knife through the butter. Japanese fans see it. I guess some of non japanese fans see it as well.

ps: you might assume I am a little drunk.
Not sure what reaction you're expecting to your views, but there's nothing wrong with the Latino temperament or ability, that's what our passion has been built on! Yes they get affected by outside pressures and criticism because they are emotional people and take things to their hearts, whereas Kamui is very much of the kamikaze type. Alonso has the intelligence to let it go over his head but it's rare that he gets criticised as he is such a brilliant driver. I get your point but have a feeling you may well have indulged in some Dutch courage before posting!! Cheers.:oops

[wisepie]

From what I have read here and elsewhere, Felipe Massa was very unfairly treated by the press in general and particularly so by the Brazilian media. A shame, because I understand that it affected both him and his family while he had done nothing to deserve such treatment.

That must have really hurt Felipe, but I suppose Brazil desperately wanted another champion/idol and much as he tried, he couldn't get things to gel all at once. Pity. And Nero Horse is quite right about any national media, it's par for the course and will never change, so best to ignore it! And I nearly forgot that Felipe now drives for Williams.

[Alonso14]

I agree Alonso should get more credit. Often the team sends him with a knife to a gunfight and yet he manages to holds his own. I think it's case of "Ferrari are bad: Let's blame absolutely everyone"

[Hunkelberg]

Not sure what reaction you're expecting to your views, but there's nothing wrong with the Latino temperament or ability, that's what our passion has been built on! Yes they get affected by outside pressures and criticism because they are emotional people and take things to their hearts, whereas Kamui is very much of the kamikaze type. Alonso has the intelligence to let it go over his head but it's rare that he gets criticised as he is such a brilliant driver. I get your point but have a feeling you may well have indulged in some Dutch courage before posting!! Cheers.:oops

Can you please describe certain Maldonado. Do you find him rational ? Is he kamikaze type ? If so, is he different to Kamui ? In what way ?

All of the above are genuine questions.

[stefa]

As a pure Ferrari supporter (meaning I am not attaching myself to drivers), Italian press should be grateful for having FA in Ferrari, and making it look strong and competitive. Otherwise they would look like very mediocre....

[Greig]

Don't see the issue if the press give him a 8/10? not like they are saying he is a waste of space.

[fratelliferrari]

Not sure what reaction you're expecting to your views, but there's nothing wrong with the Latino temperament or ability, that's what our passion has been built on! Yes they get affected by outside pressures and criticism because they are emotional people and take things to their hearts, whereas Kamui is very much of the kamikaze type. Alonso has the intelligence to let it go over his head but it's rare that he gets criticised as he is such a brilliant driver. I get your point but have a feeling you may well have indulged in some Dutch courage before posting!! Cheers.:oops

I totally agree with you on this wisepie! We like Felipe most of all because of his personality. Maybe he isn't the best driver (eventhough I think Felipe wouldn't have done worse in the F14 T compared to Kimi, but that says a lot about Fernando) but it's the combination of his personality and his total dedication that we Massabots really like!

[fadyferrari]

Don't see the issue if the press give him a 8/10? not like they are saying he is a waste of space.

must say this is one of the rare times i agree with Greig.....:-P

[Suzie]

From what I have read here and elsewhere, Felipe Massa was very unfairly treated by the press in general and particularly so by the Brazilian media. A shame, because I understand that it affected both him and his family while he had done nothing to deserve such treatment.

Yes I know from an (online) Brazilian friend that the Brazilian media treated Felipe rather badly - I get the sense like a lot like the UK, they like to knock people down after building them up. But apparently after Malaysia this year and the whole team order mess, the media there have really gotten behind him again. I think it must be very tough for any Brazilian F1 driver to live up to the expectations of the public and media over there, because everyone is looking for a Senna replacement.

As for the 'Latino' temperament - I absolutely love passion and impulsiveness in a driver, even if it makes them a bit wild or erratic. It's the reason I naturally leant towards Felipe in 2007 rather than Kimi when I needed a Michael substitute :-)

[Kingdom Hearts]

Don't see the issue if the press give him a 8/10? not like they are saying he is a waste of space.

Greig you are missing the point, is not about the score is about what is going on with him and the italian press for almost a year.

[brembo man]

F1 fans need only watch the races; watch the replays during the race, then read or listen to the actual drivers comments. At that point we know as much if not more than any news person. If anyone is not aware of Alonso 's driving greatness at this point, esp with the car he's driving, they need to watch GP2 then gradually work their way up to understanding F! and esp. the drivers. The 2014 version of Vettel is great ex. of how things go in F1.

[Hornet]

Sports journalism tend to have habit of knocking people down, IMO. Where I live here, the news regarding Man U coach sacking all sounded like angry fans ranting, lol. Not that I'm a fan of Man U, but there's just no professionalism when it comes to football "reporting"

[abbottcostello]

I agree w/brembo man, watch the race & draw your own conclusions on the drivers.
Too bad we still need the media to fill in about all the chatter off the track else I could turn off the volume & play a soundtrack of some sweet V12 noise :lol

[wisepie]

Can you please describe certain Maldonado. Do you find him rational ? Is he kamikaze type ? If so, is he different to Kamui ? In what way ?

All of the above are genuine questions.

I certainly don't find Maldonado rational or cerebral either, he is a bit like a kamikaze because he doesn't seem to be able to engage his brain before making a move. I think Latino brains can be just as clever as others, they just have a more temperamental and emotional side which sometimes gets in the way of achieving true greatness. Kamui was always a bit kamikaze, he has no fear and is fun to watch. Of course circumstances and the competitiveness of whatever car is being driven makes a difference in how we perceive a driver, so there's no clear answer to your question but it's a genuine opinion on my part!

[f1worldtour.com]

Alonso is not the problem here, far from it, are the Italians now jealous their not Spanish ;) f1worldtour.com

[Alessandra]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/27101735
“……..what a good driver he (Alonso) is and it's worth pointing out that only at McLaren with Hamilton, in 2007, has a team-mate really given him any trouble.
It's not that one was better than the other; it's that Alonso was not in a happy place back then. He was given the big honeymoon by Ron Dennis and then got jilted at the altar because Dennis turned his attentions to Hamilton. “

I know this is an Alonso & Italian press thread but it’s the closest I can get for a little piece re. Alonso/ media/ commentators.

My jaw actually dropped when I read this piece by David Coulthard, I’ve never heard or read a British commentator being quite so open about the wretched time Alonso was given at McLaren in 2007. ( KR fans, do not read!!)
What with Brundle smiling happily upon him in interviews and Kravitz hoping he’ll win the WDC in 2014! Perhaps I might be able to watch F1 with the volume turned up soon!:-)

[Alesi1]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/27101735
“……..what a good driver he (Alonso) is and it's worth pointing out that only at McLaren with Hamilton, in 2007, has a team-mate really given him any trouble.
It's not that one was better than the other; it's that Alonso was not in a happy place back then. He was given the big honeymoon by Ron Dennis and then got jilted at the altar because Dennis turned his attentions to Hamilton. “

I know this is an Alonso & Italian press thread but it’s the closest I can get for a little piece re. Alonso/ media/ commentators.

My jaw actually dropped when I read this piece by David Coulthard, I’ve never heard or read a British commentator being quite so open about the wretched time Alonso was given at McLaren in 2007. ( KR fans, do not read!!)
What with Brundle smiling happily upon him in interviews and Kravitz hoping he’ll win the WDC in 2014! Perhaps I might be able to watch F1 with the volume turned up soon!:-)

2007 was a bit messy really. Ron tried to really screw Alonso, and I think the peak of that was sending him out on incorrect tyre pressures in the rain at Fuji a major contributor to that accident. I'm surprised he drove as well as he dd considering Ron trying to sabotage him as much as possible.

[Gerhard Berger]

Italian press are like this with ratings like this. Same happens in football. A 10 is practically unheard of in GdS (the only one i could remember was Cannavaro in Euro 2000).

[justjesper]

Don't see the issue if the press give him a 8/10? not like they are saying he is a waste of space.

I actually have to agree with Greig on this one ;-)

[mirafiori]

Alonso is not the problem here, far from it, are the Italians now jealous their not Spanish ;) f1worldtour.com

In Italy it is very rare for the press to give any person in any sport 10 out of 10, in Italy 10 means perfection. Also the Italian media has no issue with Alonso or his nationality.

[Winter]

2007 was a bit messy really. Ron tried to really screw Alonso, and I think the peak of that was sending him out on incorrect tyre pressures in the rain at Fuji a major contributor to that accident. I'm surprised he drove as well as he dd considering Ron trying to sabotage him as much as possible.

Yes, Dennis really hates Mclaren so much that he would sabotage one of his own drivers. Poor Button :-s

[Alesi1]

Yes, Dennis really hates Mclaren so much that he would sabotage one of his own drivers. Poor Button :-s

Fact ! If i recall correctly ithink it Was10psi (deliberately) higher than what Alonso had asked for, and in those conditions tyres were overheating issues/traction etc. Ron was paying Alonso back for the blackmailing! Plus he wanted golden boy Hamilton to win.

[Greig]

Yes, Dennis really hates Mclaren so much that he would sabotage one of his own drivers. Poor Button :-s

Not sure what Button has to do with it? But clearly when Ron Dennis says they were racing against Alonso (their own driver) then something is clearly quite wrong.

[Alesi1]

Not sure what Button has to do with it? But clearly when Ron Dennis says they were racing against Alonso (their own driver) then something is clearly quite wrong.
:thumb

[Rishu]

Yes, Dennis really hates Mclaren so much that he would sabotage one of his own drivers. Poor Button :-s

FIA stationed it's delegates in McLaren garage just to make sure Alonso gets fair equipment. I trust you are intelligent enough to understand what was going on in McLaren & Ron's head in 2007.

[windwaves]

Yep, the media were often very critical of Massa, and often create rumors that Massa will be fired mid season. I'm glad Massa is now beating Bottas, that should shut the critics up.

Just a lil early to tell who is beating who.

[wisepie]

Just a lil early to tell who is beating who.

Massa has so far been faster in quali and race (mostly), but as usual has had his share of dramas and been eliminated in one race and badly let down last time in the pit-stop. Bottas is promising and will keep Felipe on his toes, the fact that Bottas has more points is just the way things have panned out so far.

[windwaves]

We shall see.

I expect Bottas to be significantly better than Massa overall. Massa will have the random performance in qualifying but not much more than that.

[Bertie]

We shall see.

I expect Bottas to be significantly better than Massa overall. Massa will have the random performance in qualifying but not much more than that.

trolling much?

[Nero Horse]

We shall see.

I expect Bottas to be significantly better than Massa overall. Massa will have the random performance in qualifying but not much more than that.

Whoaaa! That's quite a bold statement there. "Bottas to be significantly better than Massa"... I highly doubt it lol.

[windwaves]

Whoaaa! That's quite a bold statement there. "Bottas to be significantly better than Massa"... I highly doubt it lol.

yes, may be a bit bold. We are going to find out, it is just my feeling given the way Massa was driving last year.

[windwaves]

trolling much?

got anything valuable to add ?

[Nick Singer]

FWIW, 'Sir' Ron Badloser has always had it in for Ferrari, continually accusing the team of cheating. Ironic, then, that it was his team that was caught cheating and fined US$98M or something like that! The only man in F1 I really detest..

[fratelliferrari]

yes, may be a bit bold. We are going to find out, it is just my feeling given the way Massa was driving last year.

And what does that say for you actually? Kimi was very good last year but so far this year it's not great in my opinion. Felipe looks stronger at Williams than Kimi at Ferrari at the moment.

[Paulpg87]

I wonder if we have any fan here that lives in Italy and can explain why the Italian press is so weird with Alonso. For example he is getting eights for the China GP when the International press is giving him tens or nines (plus winning all the poll of driver of the day), then we have Leo Turrini saying that the only thing he has done in this last 5 years is build his ego, and he blames him for not improving the car.

This is a trend that has being going since 2013.

Taking into account what Alonso has done in the past 5 years for Ferrari, I think they should be grateful but I guess they have another thing in ther minds.

hi, in italy 10 is not given. it's a number that exist but you'll never get ten. Even in footbal if you score 4 goals in one match. That's just culture.

Overall here once you are not winning there is a lot of pressure and people immediatly get mad.. right now everyone evertwhere (tv , internet etc) thinks ferrari sucks big time and everyone is mad at how bad we are and at new f1

I don't know who the hell is Leo Turrini. If you want news about ferrari go to gazzetta (but just paper version), autosprint and f1 passion which sums up news. off course there are real news during gps from italian commentary.

i've written very fast, i'm sorry for my mistakes
ciao

[Kingdom Hearts]

hi, in italy 10 is not given. it's a number that exist but you'll never get ten.

Maybe not but they give 9.5.

http://abload.de/img/sinttulo-2dhuz4.jpg

Now please explain how can they give an 8 to Fernando for China, it makes no sense at all.

Already said many times that is not about the score is about many other things, there is not good "feeling" between the italian press and Fernando since 2013. I don't know if they want him out of the team, or maybe they have some kind of agenda, something is not right. I read la gazzetta every morning I know what I'm talking about and is not only about la gazzeta, Autosprint has done his fair share too.

My english is not perfect but I think is not that hard to understand what I'm saying.

[Greig]

Same Italian press that labelled MS as a turnip after he made a mistake one race? I really would not look too deeply into it.

[Hornet]

lol, Aldo Costa got a rating too among the drivers.

Yeah, I wouldn't pay much attention to the ratings. They will always be harsh on Ferrari until we're winning again.

[wisepie]

And what does that say for you actually? Kimi was very good last year but so far this year it's not great in my opinion. Felipe looks stronger at Williams than Kimi at Ferrari at the moment.

Well said, fratelli, even though Williams have built a car which looks good and has the right engine for now, Felipe does indeed look to have taken on a new lease of life. Good for him.

[windwaves]

And what does that say for you actually? Kimi was very good last year but so far this year it's not great in my opinion. Felipe looks stronger at Williams than Kimi at Ferrari at the moment.

Kimi will figure it out. He just got there. How long had Massa been at Ferrari ? Ages. And what has he achieved ? And last year ? his only accomplishment was ensuring Ferrari would lose 2nd place in the WCC. Amazing. Anyhow, Kimi vs Massa is not even funny, please. They simply are worlds apart.

[eddie]

Maybe not but they give 9.5.

http://abload.de/img/sinttulo-2dhuz4.jpg

Now please explain how can they give an 8 to Fernando for China, it makes no sense at all.

Already said many times that is not about the score is about many other things, there is not good "feeling" between the italian press and Fernando since 2013. I don't know if they want him out of the team, or maybe they have some kind of agenda, something is not right. I read la gazzetta every morning I know what I'm talking about and is not only about la gazzeta, Autosprint has done his fair share too.

My english is not perfect but I think is not that hard to understand what I'm saying.

Prob woke up in the morning, had a bad breakfast and lost some brain cells along the way...

I don't really pay attention to ratings. It's a stupid scheme. One man's 8 is another man's 9.. Lol!

[eddie]

Sergio's 8 says it all... Lol!

[Alonso14]

Sergio's 8 says it all... Lol!

That's from the Bahrain race where he had a very strong perforamnce. Outq'd the Hulk, then found himself behind him after the first pit stops so he had to overtake him on track (+overtake Felipe Baby).

[fratelliferrari]

Kimi will figure it out. He just got there. How long had Massa been at Ferrari ? Ages. And what has he achieved ? And last year ? his only accomplishment was ensuring Ferrari would lose 2nd place in the WCC. Amazing. Anyhow, Kimi vs Massa is not even funny, please. They simply are worlds apart.

Yes we really saw that in 2008 and 2009 before Hungary (sarcasm)! They are not two different worlds but if you say so than that's you opinion but I don't agree at all! Are Fernando and Kimi also on different worlds then?

[Hornet]

Kimi will figure it out. He just got there. How long had Massa been at Ferrari ? Ages. And what has he achieved ? And last year ? his only accomplishment was ensuring Ferrari would lose 2nd place in the WCC. Amazing. Anyhow, Kimi vs Massa is not even funny, please. They simply are worlds apart.

Yes they were worlds apart, as we saw in 2008 and 2009. :-D

Massa didn't lose us the WCC, our car did. And by the way, we're currently 4th in the WCC.

[diesel08]

I don't care what they (italian jurnalists) said.

[fratelliferrari]

Yes they were worlds apart, as we saw in 2008 and 2009. :-D

Massa didn't lose us the WCC, our car did. And by the way, we're currently 4th in the WCC.

:thumb

[windwaves]

Yes we really saw that in 2008 and 2009 before Hungary (sarcasm)! They are not two different worlds but if you say so than that's you opinion but I don't agree at all! Are Fernando and Kimi also on different worlds then?

Yes, 2008 was one good year for FM, he should have won it and deserved to win it. But he did not, unfortunately.

However, the rest of his F1 career does not shy, in my view.

The year 2009 ? in terms of results really goes with the list below, but yes he did better than KR. Sadly a horrible accident of course which might have impacted the rest of his career indeed.

Now:

do you remember 2007 ?
do you remember 2010 ?
do you remember 2011 ?
do you remember 2012 ?
do you remember 2013 ?

Come on, there is little to discuss. His recent years at Ferrari were sad. I have nothing against him, always actually liked him, and he "was" a terrific qualifier. Nonetheless, as a Ferrari supporter I really wish he had left the team 2,3 years ago.

Kimi has had I believe 16 wins as a F1 driver. FM 11. I think same number of poles. Massa had 14 fast laps, Kimi 39.

Please note, I am not at all trying to make this a FM vs KR thing. I think they are both great drivers and like them both.

[windwaves]

Yes they were worlds apart, as we saw in 2008 and 2009. :-D

And by the way, we're currently 4th in the WCC.

sorry, I was referring to 2013.

[Greig]

Not sure how this has turned into another Massa v Kimi or Massa sucks thread really bizarre. Almost as if some can't let go and move on.

[Nova]

How did Kimi and Massa get into an Alonso thread?
Inquiring minds want to know. :-D

In no way does my post reflect what Im actually doing at the moment.

[windwaves]

Yes, really, really, me 2, need 2 no how on earth did that occur ?!?! OMG

I propose we open an investigation. OMG.

ahahahahahha

[abbottcostello]

How did Kimi and Massa get into an Alonso thread?
Inquiring minds want to know. :-D

In no way does my post reflect what Im actually doing at the moment.
Apparently an obsession of some, a constant need to talk about everything else EXCEPT the thread's actual topic :roll

Maybe the rating is like parents sometimes are, harsher on their own children because they expect or want more from them?
Whatever the psychology behind it, the rating they give to Alonso or any other driver for that matter, is of little concern to me.

:lou <--- Here's me NOT reading La Gazetta

[Winter]

FIA stationed it's delegates in McLaren garage just to make sure Alonso gets fair equipment. I trust you are intelligent enough to understand what was going on in McLaren & Ron's head in 2007.

I didn't know that. Was that FIAs decision, or did Fernando ask them to do so?

[Katu]

I didn't know that. Was that FIAs decision, or did Fernando ask them to do so?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63390 it was FIA's decision

[Winter]

Thanks Katu.

There Fernando says it him self. No conspiracies and no sabotaging.

[abbottcostello]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63390 it was FIA's decision
Boy, Fernando sounds so political with his statements, trashing Ron & Lewis like that. :-D :-D