Spanish GP 2014 Qualifying thread

[fronaldo]

Let's hope both Ferrari get higher place as possible in Q :ferrarifl

[PadGeT]

:lou

[shamim179]

2nd row would be a huge achievement for us but 3rd row would be ok and a more realistic target. We are way behind Mercedes. The battle should be with Red Bull and hopefully nobody else for the 2nd and 3rd row slots.

[evo_spook]

Good luck for the 1st or 2nd row :thumb

[Reikai]

I hope for 3 and 4 place,maybe 3 and 5 !

[sachin]

Good luck for the 1st or 2nd row :thumb

What,are you joking?
1st row?:-P

[evo_spook]

What,are you joking?
1st row?:-P

Nico's spot :-p

[tifosi1993]

:ferrarifl

[Katu]

let's hope for the best result possible

[Kyss4k]

Wow, penalty for too much MGU-K used incomming. :-s

[Rishu]

Sky commentary not audible.

[LivingHitokiri]

Maldonado is keeping the tradition XD

[fratelliferrari]

Well done Pastor

[Katu]

maldonado shouldn't be driving

[Rishu]

To be fair to him, car looked horrendous to drive

[Kyss4k]

Maldonado is keep the tradition XD

How is he still an F1 driver... I'll never know.

[shamim179]

All Ferrari powered cars on their 3rd MGUH-K. Maximum allowed is 5 over a season!

[LivingHitokiri]

How is he still an F1 driver... I'll never know.

Sponsors but you already know that hahahah but yeha he doesnt deserve a seat in F1 imo.

[DIEK]

Maldonado... :facepalm:

[Katu]

i wonder if he brings more money to team than it takes to repair the damage maldonado does

[Kyss4k]

Sponsors but you already know that hahahah but yeha he doesnt deserve a seat in F1 imo.


;-)

[PadGeT]

i wonder if he brings more money to team than it takes to repair the damage maldonado does
:lol

[vasveras]

Can someone please tell me more info about what happend with Pastor??? Thank You

[Kyss4k]

Can someone please tell me more info about what happend with Pastor??? Thank You

He nailed it

[Katu]

Can someone please tell me more info about what happend with Pastor??? Thank You
the usual, he drove the car

[vasveras]

Thanks ...:)

[Reikai]

Are both our drivers set this times on hard tyres?

[Apocaly]

P10 et P11....

[anuragiyer8989]

Scary moments for Kimi....

[Rishu]

Are both our drivers set this times on hard tyres?

Kimi on mediums, Fernando on hards

[Apocaly]

P11 and P12....:-!

[anuragiyer8989]

Are both our drivers set this times on hard tyres?

Kimi on Meds...Fer on Hards

[bonzo]

Gut feeling tells me we are having the worst quali this season...

[Kiwi Nick]

Can someone please tell me more info about what happend with Pastor??? Thank You

The proud socialist pal of Chavez lost control and slammed into a wall ripping the right front off the car.

[FerrariF60]

wow after Q1 P10 and P11...that's no good...

let's hope for better in Q3

[Apocaly]

Kimi is not fast with the tender. It will not be in Q3.

[Apocaly]

soft*

[FerrariF60]

looking at how Q1 went, we'd be lucky if Nando qulifies P7 or 8 at the end of QUALI

[Kyss4k]

looking at how Q1 went, we'd be lucky if Nando qulifies P7 or 8 at the end of QUALI

Well, he did the lap on hards.

[paneristi]

I wonder if Merc testing Pirelli last year is a coincidence to their success of this year (?)

[anuragiyer8989]

Maybe FP3 was just a one-off!

[fratelliferrari]

It's hard working behind the wheel of the F14T

[FerrariF60]

kimi faster tehn alonso

[Apocaly]

Good Kimi

[Apocaly]

Red Bull :(

[anuragiyer8989]

Getting beaten again by the RB10!

[FerrariF60]

Red Bull :(

yup, WAY faster then us....shame

[Kyss4k]

Ouch, Grosjean ahead of Alonso.

[Apocaly]

Lotus P6 ?! .

[FerrariF60]

Ouch, Grosjean ahead of Alonso.

Crashjean....LOL

[FerrariF60]

hey, at least we're kicking some McLaren rear end....LOL

[fratelliferrari]

I really like that upset face of Ron Dennis :clap

[tifosi_kaka]

yup, WAY faster then us....shame

They are not our concern right now, we are only just ahead of Williams on used medium tyres when we are on new mediums. We could end up lower than we currently are.

And there they go, right up there with RB.

[FerrariF60]

so me thinks williams is also Faster then us...man oh man

[Kyss4k]

Holy! We were lucky there.

[Katu]

that was too close this time

[anuragiyer8989]

McLaren also faster now!

[tifosi_kaka]

Wow, close one for Fernando.

[FerrariF60]

WOW, that was close for ALONSO...jesus, we're nowhere at this track...or should i say, our car is NOWHERE

[tifosi_kaka]

Sky mentioned that Lewis complained about the car going backward between Fri and Sat...

I think it should be our drivers who complain that the car went backwards between races!

[Kyss4k]

WOW, that was close for ALONSO...jesus, we're nowhere at this track...or should i say, our car is NOWHERE

People used to say that our aero is second best. Now we are at the aero heaviest track of the season... Doing well right?

[Apocaly]

Grosjean 6e....Kimi 7e and Kimi 10e....Pfffff

[shamim179]

Others have improved more than us. We were supposed to be strong on this track but the other teams with less resources than us have simply done a better job than us simple as that. P7 and P8 a real possibility. Better than that will feel like a pole!

[Alessandra]

THat was one hell of a risk!

[Kyss4k]

Others have improved more than us. We were supposed to be strong on this track but the other teams with less resources than us have simply done a better job than us simple as that. P7 and P8 a real possibility. Better than that will feel like a pole!

And we have a brand new superb wind tunnel. Bringing updates should have been "easy".

[sachin]

was Alonso's Q2 second run on used softs?

[bonzo]

Sky mentioned that Lewis complained about the car going backward between Fri and Sat...

I think it should be our drivers who complain that the car went backwards between races!

And between seasons

[fronaldo]

That was close from Alonso

[FerrariF60]

People used to say that our aero is second best. Now we are at the aero heaviest track of the season... Doing well right?

NOPE, we suck big time....it seems that our car has NO STRENGTHS at all....our aero is weak, our engine is weak...thank got we have TWO good drivers...but without a half decent car, they too can only do so much with a slow car

[tifosi_kaka]

was Alonso's Q2 second run on used softs?

Live timing seems to say new tyres, but I'm not convinced.

And where did that Lotus come from?

[LivingHitokiri]

RED FLAG!

[Katu]

vettel out, at least we are not P10

[bonzo]

Vettel stopped

[fratelliferrari]

Bye bye bieber

[tifosi_kaka]

At least something to cheer for... :clap

[anuragiyer8989]

Vettel out! One down! Is this how we want to be up there on the grid?!!!

[Apocaly]

VETTEL OUT. P10 :)

[sachin]

Live timing seems to say new tyres, but I'm not convinced.

And where did that Lotus come from?

Absolutely, no improvement on new softs?:-E

[Rishu]

Mercedes will be furious they both drivers were on brand new set of tyres

[bonzo]

Where is Horner's victoriuos look??:rotfl

[DIEK]

This year Vettel has Webber car in Rb... :-D

[anuragiyer8989]

Even Fernando's fans on the stands aren't excited to see him drive by.....maybe its a universal disappointment!

[FerrariF60]

And we have a brand new superb wind tunnel. Bringing updates should have been "easy".

hopefully the RUMORS about us bringing a SPEC B car by canada will be true using the BRAND NEW SHINY wind tunnel we have, as the one taht we used so far (toyota wind tunnel) building teh F14T, well as you can see nothing is working....

[bonzo]

RB on a truck - a warming sight!!

[shamim179]

We only need another 7 other cars to fail and pole is there for our taking!

[Senna4Ever]

That was close from Alonso

one of my favourite movie characters would say: "holy moly"

Hey Seb, would say it's tough luck ...

[FerrariF60]

vettel out, at least we are not P10

LOL, that is true...we'll get P9 at worst

[Kiwi Nick]

I am thinking that the F14T chassis is a dog. Even as Ferrari improve the PU and aero, other teams are also improving their PU and aero and the F14T is going backwards. I think the basic platform is holding Ferrari back.

[Lesky]

Vettels luck has come to an end, lol.

[sachin]

hopefully the RUMORS about us bringing a SPEC B car by canada will be true using the BRAND NEW SHINY wind tunnel we have, as the one taht we used so far (toyota wind tunnel) building teh F14T, well as you can see nothing is working....

oh come on in winter test we believe NEW FAST CAR IN australia,
then in aus we guess China will be where the upgrades will be,
then in China we expect a B spec car in Barcelona,
and now here we get rumors of new car in Canada
and there it will slowly become into focus shifiting to next year

[FerrariF60]

oh come on in winter test we believe NEW CAR IN australia,
then in aus we guess China,
then in China we expect a B spec car in Barcelona,
and now here we get rumors of new car in Canada
and there it will slowly become into focus shifiting to next year

yup, i think you are right....come july or august we'll hear an announcement from the team that we will shift work to 2015

[FerrariFanBoii]

omg we are so slow.

[Kiwi Nick]

Ricciardo is fast!

[Rishu]

27.5 is bad

[anuragiyer8989]

27.5 is bad

Maybe he's already thinking about Canada!

[FerrariFanBoii]

Well... at least looked quick in Sector 1.... then it just went down.

[Kyss4k]

Disastereous. All I can say. Even Grosjean is ahead of us. Shame on us.

[Rishu]

Kimi did much better job, sadly we are behind even the Lotus

[FerrariF60]

wow, almost 2 seconds off PACE....terrible just TERRIBLE...

[FerrariFanBoii]

Give up now. That Hamilton lap was sensational, we don't stand a chance, call off 2014 now! haha

[sachin]

Whattttttttttttttttttttt,Lotus ahead of us?

[Kyss4k]

2 seconds off... dear Jesus.

[WS6TransAm01]

What in the world is happening?

[Alesi1]

Shameful, 2 s off the pace, that is really very bad. Great modern day f1. One the pecking order is established, that's it for the whole year. See u in 2015

[sachin]

We all talking about us and RBR..we are no where close :(

[Ferrari312T4]

Well those parts we brought really made a difference..
We don't seem to be able to make this car any quicker.

[FerrariFanBoii]

They all said Hamilton was crazy to leave Macca for Merc, well who's laughing now. And if Hamilton continues what he's doing, I honestly think the Ham/Ros relationship crumble, it'll all end in tears!

[Rishu]

Give up now. That Hamilton lap was sensational, we don't stand a chance, call off 2014 now! haha

Even RB might consider that

[anuragiyer8989]

Yeah....yeah....same old.....slower than others....championship over....bring on 2015.....mule of a car.....mediocre team.....bringing downgrades every race.....employees getting fired....resignations.........is there an end to this at all???

[Hornet]

How did Grosjean in a Lotus qualified ahead of us :-E

Seems like no chance of a podium tomorrow :-s

[Kyss4k]

Yep RB already 1sec ahead of us. After no testing. Letus ahead of us. With even less testing and running in previous weekends. How are we always going backwards?

[Senna4Ever]

small gap between our both drivers ...
So Fernando was right when he told us that the good result in the last race was just a failure in the system ...

Allisons quote: "we don't know the speed of the car yet" should have been warning enough ....

[Sanomas]

6 and 7...

I'm disappointed now...hopefully team do a better job on race.

[Kiwi Nick]

So the best driver duo in F1 are behind Mercedes, Red Bull, Williams and Lotus! Ferrari are not improving. Being faster than McLaren is no good if you are slower than Lotus and Williams.

Maybe Grosjean will take out Bottas and Ricciardo in the first turn. I think that is Ferrari's only hope to make the podium.

[bonzo]

Yeah....yeah....same old.....slower than others....championship over....bring on 2015.....mule of a car.....mediocre team.....bringing downgrades every race.....employees getting fired....resignations.........is there an end to this at all???

Beware of mods!

[sachin]

6 and 7...

I'm disappointed now...hopefully team do a better job on race.

Looks unlikely,rather i only hope it aint becomes Bahrain 2.0

[Laferrari]

Really...2 sec off pace....really....we need not a B spec....at least a C spec or D spec....:lol.I prefere to laugh because it s not the first year that we are nowhere so yeah .

[anuragiyer8989]

Beware of mods!

Sure.thanks!

[LivingHitokiri]

So the best driver duo in F1 are behind Mercedes, Red Bull, Williams and Lotus! Ferrari are not improving. Being faster than McLaren is no good if you are slower than Lotus and Williams.

Maybe Grosjean will take out Bottas and Ricciardo in the first turn. I think that is Ferrari's only hope to make the podium.

You know things are looking grim when we are hopping for other to crash in order for us to have a chance to get a better place....

[R Ginart]

Another spectacular qualifying effort by the Ferrari's lame horse!

[Nero Horse]

Let's look on the bright side, at least we have this cool and fancy contraption...

http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/popup/sutton/2013/dms1408my11.jpg

"Who needs a fast car, when we can have that?" :roll

[bonzo]

Pecking order:
Merc..................RBR...Williams...Lotus...... ...............Ferrari

[Senna4Ever]

At least we're constant over the last couple of years ... with starting racing in Europe we fall behind in development. Congratulations to the water heads organization in Maranello ... I can hear them happy singing "Blame it on the wind tunnel" (same melody like Blame it on the Boogie from the Jackson 5) ... and 'not guilty' from George Harrison

Is Luca still there or should we place bets when he will leave on Sunday?

[Alesi1]

Don't think luca will leave on Sunday, it's the main sponsors home race.

[bonzo]

At least we're constant over the last couple of years ... with starting racing in Europe we fall behind in development. Congratulations to the water heads organization in Maranello ... I can hear them happy singing "Blame it on the wind tunnel" (same melody like Blame it on the Boogie from the Jackson 5) ... and 'not guilty' from George Harrison

Is Luca still there or should we place bets when he will leave on Sunday?
The new tune is "blame it on Stefano".

[Sanomas]

Looks unlikely,rather i only hope it aint becomes Bahrain 2.0

I really hope so!

What I expected was 4 and 5 at high, Hamilton was really fast today, Rosberg too. Apparently Vettel has a problem with car, I'm not really sure if he hadn't problem, could gone for 3?! Maybe so...

[shamim179]

It really should have been P7 and P8 if it weren't for Vettel's car failure.

We'll do extremely well to finish 3rd in the WCC by the end of the season. The reality of the situation is that the others are improving at a faster pace than us. This might be one of our worst years in recent times.

[R Ginart]

If I was Luca, I would not show up at all!
Don't think luca will leave on Sunday, it's the main sponsors home race.

[sachin]

Let's look on the bright side, at least we have this cool and fancy contraption...

http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/popup/sutton/2013/dms1408my11.jpg

"Who needs a fast car, when we can have that?" :roll

what on earth do we do of it?
Pit gantry maybe helpful when we need 0.1 or 0.05 seconds in a fierce WDC fight,
we are 2 seconds off,so it doesnt matter.
BTW what is it, some part of a roller coaster or what?:-P

[Ferrari312T4]

Let's look on the bright side, at least we have this cool and fancy contraption...

:clap

http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/popup/sutton/2013/dms1408my11.jpg

"Who needs a fast car, when we can have that?" :roll

[Laferrari]

Who is the next on the black list from Luca? :-D.
Great lap from Lewis ,Lotus have a good chassi...they slowly will come back...RB made a step forward, same from williams.Maybe massa was right with the comment he made yesterday .
Fernando is always realistic and he has lost faith in the team and he has no fire in his eyes .So the rumour that he will leave us is true...but kimi is doing a good job...

[Hornet]

You know things are looking grim when we are hopping for other to crash in order for us to have a chance to get a better place....

There's always Ferrari's customary quick start that hopefully will help us gain some places ;-)

But Ric will be strong tomorrow, he's in the right place to fight for podium without any traffic, so unless something bad happens, I think it's damage limitation for us, score as much points as we can.

[Icon]

Nothing much between Kimi and Fernando.... 1.9 secs of Mercedes :giveup.

[Alesi1]

There's always Ferrari's customary quick start that hopefully will help us gain some places ;-)

But Ric will be strong tomorrow, he's in the right place to fight for podium without any traffic, so unless something bad happens, I think it's damage limitation for us, score as much points as we can.

No such thing as damage limitation, it's over. Forget it.

[Apocaly]

Fernando Alonso was outqualified by a teammate today in Catalunya for the first time in 10 years.

[tifosi1993]

Fantastic effort from our drivers, well done.

Absolutely pathetic effort from our aero guys & designers. Instead of catching up Mercedes, we are getting out developed by Lotus! Seems they did nothing during this 3 weeks.

A little advice to the team :

http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/less-talk-and-more-work.png

[pluto]

This is really quite mindblogging. With all our recruitments are resources we are now behind even a bankrupt Lotus which lost their lead designer and is falling apart. How is this sustained mediocrity for so many years possible? Is it really the front pull rod suspension?

[Laferrari]

The new tune is "blame it on Stefano".


:lol.
I have heard that Fry is running away from barcelona because he fears luca will kill him with a harm of his stupid front suspension:rotfl

[Kyss4k]

No such thing as damage limitation, it's over. Forget it.

Yep, we won't catch them. RBR have slight chance as they seem to be a bit closer (but again, this track could be the best one for them). This year is done. But the worst thing is, do we believe we can catch them next year? We have to basically build new engine and new car, as we have done both wrong, while Merc has a superb basis already.
Is there any light at the end of the tunnel?

[zike]

No such thing as damage limitation, it's over. Forget it.

yes it is over, but that is not what bothers me the most, I can not understand what is wrong with them!!!!!!

As Einstein said, Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, and we have been doing this for 5 years now

[Hornet]

No such thing as damage limitation, it's over. Forget it.

I know. I just hope we could at least finish 2nd in the championship. It may not mean much, but that's the best we can get given how dominant Merc is.

I just fear that Renault's PU may be catching up while Ferrari still unable to improve.

[sachin]

Yep, we won't catch them. RBR have slight chance as they seem to be a bit closer (but again, this track could be the best one for them). This year is done. But the worst thing is, do we believe we can catch them next year? We have to basically build new engine and new car, as we have done both wrong, while Merc has a superb basis already.
Is there any light at the end of the tunnel?

Well the tunnel itself is where the fault is:-D

But how do we build a new engine?

[theforce]

SO now we are the 5th fastest team and maybe even 6th if the Force India in the hands of Nico puts in some good race pace. 6 years in a row now, come on Ferrari!

[SinanOzerS]

Calm down, Greig is coming.

[WS6TransAm01]

The upgrades must have been a boat anchor and a parachute...

[Sanomas]

http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/less-talk-and-more-work.png

Priceless quote!

[LivingHitokiri]

There's always Ferrari's customary quick start that hopefully will help us gain some places ;-)

But Ric will be strong tomorrow, he's in the right place to fight for podium without any traffic, so unless something bad happens, I think it's damage limitation for us, score as much points as we can.

Hope so mate, i mean our drivers are know to be good during race rather qualy but the gap is really enormous but i still believe in the team but it seems our progress is minimal compared to others or we focus on wrong parts...
I expect a good start from Fernando and Kimi.

[Kyss4k]

yes it is over, but that is not what bothers me the most, I can not understand what is wrong with them!!!!!!

As Einstein said, Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, and we have been doing this for 5 years now

About that: can anyone explain to me please, why are we still running these cooling outlets? Nobody else does it this way and it for sure is ruining the airflow at the back. Anyone?
5852

[stefa]

2 seconds gap?!?!?!?!? Wow!
I was in cinema with my daughters, smart move from me to enjoy cartoon in theatre over cartoon embarasment in Spain...

[20000rpm]

Who is the next on the black list from Luca? :-D.
Great lap from Lewis ,Lotus have a good chassi...they slowly will come back...RB made a step forward, same from williams.Maybe massa was right with the comment he made yesterday .
Fernando is always realistic and he has lost faith in the team and he has no fire in his eyes .So the rumour that he will leave us is true...but kimi is doing a good job...
The basic problem, it seems, is in the fundamental making of the car. Year after year we stick to a conservative approach, tinker around with some downgrades and when things don't work conveniently say we shift to next season. Those same set of excuses time and again clearly shows something is SERIOUSLY WRONG WITH THE TEAM FUNCTIONING. SD had his share of blame, but he cannot be blamed for all the ills.
Another team in the same boat is Mclaren. But I am sure they will surely see brighter side with Peter and Danny joining the team(assuming they win the case). But the bureaucratic Ferrari seems risk averse, least aggressive in approach.

[fadyferrari]

i find it strange that we have still stuck to TOMBASIZ .....yes stefano's way of working was slow,but i feel its TOMBASIZ thats the root cause of our poor car designs...i simply cant get my head around how luca has kept him around ...

[shamim179]

No wonder Stefano resigned. He knew things would get worse. To be fair on Stefano he did want to resign in the previous years but Luca wanted him to stay. It will take several years before we start becoming competitive again. Something is inherently wrong at Ferrari and it doesn't seem to change no matter what you change be it the tools or personnel.

[FerrariFanBoii]

No one can deny, we carry on like this, 1 podium, Fernando is gone. And I don't blame him.

[Alonso14]

i find it strange that we have still stuck to TOMBASIZ .....yes stefano's way of working was slow,but i feel its TOMBASIZ thats the root cause of our poor car designs...i simply cant get my head around how luca has kept him around ...

I don't think it's Luca's job to go around and fire/hire team members. He hires the TP who then in turn deals with those types of tasks.

So not only we didn't improve/maintain the gap but we've actually fallen behind. Wow, and to think I had this little hope of a podium before the weekend. Wow, just wow.

[Alesi1]

I know. I just hope we could at least finish 2nd in the championship. It may not mean much, but that's the best we can get given how dominant Merc is.

I just fear that Renault's PU may be catching up while Ferrari still unable to improve.

Unfortunately development these dys happens on computers not on the track, we still haven't adjusted to this. If we can't win who cares anymore anyway.

[fadyferrari]

well Luca is the ferrari president.He can override any decision made by the TP.maybe it was stefano who persuaded luca to have faith in Tombasiz.
but i think any layman can tell our cars are poorly designed...!

[fadyferrari]

finishing 3rd would be a miracle !!redbull have now pulled clear of us by nearly a second

[shamim179]

It's at times like these that you need to hire an ultra experienced TP who has a record of success who has the ability to turn things around. Sorry to say but Ferrari are preparing themselves for more failures in the years ahead. Companies in great difficulty usually hire people who can turn things around. Hiring Mattiacci is a huge gamble. If it doesn't work out we'll lose another 4-5 years and any subsequent TP after him will take another few years to sort things out. We could be like this for a decade.

[Nero Horse]

I'm really dreading the Monaco GP already, I mean if we're this poor on a track like Barcelona then where will we be on a track like Monaco which requires a lot of downforce and great traction? And we have neither of those things on our car. :-s

[sachin]

i hope i have enough years left in my life to see a Ferrari WDC+WCC combo.:-??

[Kyss4k]

It's at times like these that you need to hire an ultra experienced TP who has a record of success who has the ability to turn things around. Sorry to say but Ferrari are preparing themselves for more failures in the years ahead. Companies in great difficulty usually hire people who can turn things around. Hiring Mattiacci is a huge gamble. If it doesn't work out we'll lose another 4-5 years and any subsequent TP after him will take another few years to sort things out. We could be like this for a decade.

It's not huge gamble, it's huge mistake if they really mean it. I still don't believe he is there for good and is just a temporary replacement. If not, God help us.

[paneristi]

there is one progress, though: Kimi is now in the same pace with Fernando. It's not gonna be easy for MM to reorganise things, and every race in 2014 is gonna be painful to watch, but I hope there will be big progress at every race, until we can catch up again next season, or the season after.

[Hermann]

The upgrades must have been a boat anchor and a parachute...

I actually shouldn't but this just made me :rotfl

[Nero Horse]

i hope i have enough years left in my life to see a Ferrari WDC+WCC combo.:-??

Didn't you get to experience the glory days of the early 2000's?

[sachin]

Didn't you get to experience the glory days of the early 2000's?

I actually meant another one.
Forget a era,even a WDC would be good.

[Nero Horse]

I actually meant another one.
Forget a era,even a WDC would be good.

Yep, agree with you on that one.

[F1NAC]

we are like a bunch of amateurs. Even freaking Lotus yes LOTUS with almost 0 mileage in testing. Yes we don't build aeroplanes we build tractors(f1 cars ofc). Even one power unit can't be as good as RB aero. Just another sad day of many for tifosi

[sachin]

yes,that Merc engine could power a plane it seem's, and ours maybe a tractor:roll

[Bertie]

I'm really dreading the Monaco GP already, I mean if we're this poor on a track like Barcelona then where will we be on a track like Monaco which requires a lot of downforce and great traction? And we have neither of those things on our car. :-s

I agree Monaco will be tough but my real fear for the season, which has been bothering me for months and i have been unable to bring myself to say to anybody, is how we will suffer in Monza.

[20000rpm]

I wouldn't be surprised if the success of Mercedes engine has anything to do with their experience while racing at LeMans and other events. They had done plenty of testing and would have needed some minor tweaking to meet the demands of F-1. Can anyone correct me if Ferrari was also part of such events using turbo engines?

[stefa]

Let's look on the bright side, at least we have this cool and fancy contraption...

http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/popup/sutton/2013/dms1408my11.jpg

"Who needs a fast car, when we can have that?" :roll

Yes. Outstanding design! I bet every starting from next race will copy this (useless) design!

[Kiwi Nick]

Yes. Outstanding design! I bet every starting from next race will copy this (useless) design!

Does it talk and dispense ice cream bars or fizzy drinks?

[stefa]

Does it talk and dispense ice cream bars or fizzy drinks?

No! It does nothing, but holds air hose in some aerodynamically way....

[stefa]

So... Another wasted year...

[Rob]

I wouldn't be surprised if the success of Mercedes engine has anything to do with their experience while racing at LeMans and other events. They had done plenty of testing and would have needed some minor tweaking to meet the demands of F-1. Can anyone correct me if Ferrari was also part of such events using turbo engines?

Mercedes hasnt returned to Le-Mans since the 1999 nightmare.

[Kingdom Hearts]

This car is too slow and Mercedes way too fast, not only that but other teams are improving and we are not, another season lost.

[Senna4Ever]

Fernando is always realistic and he has lost faith in the team and he has no fire in his eyes .So the rumour that he will leave us is true...but kimi is doing a good job...

1st between Fernando and Kimi there isn't gap that would cause a nightmare .. it is almost nothing!
But the other thing is really worrying ... for me at least: Fernando has always shown something like "Attack" or "Ready to Fight" in his behaviour and eyes ... now it is almost like "who cares ..."
... who would blame him to loose motivation after all this greyhound day actions ...


:rotfl

The upgrades must have been a boat anchor and a parachute...

But hey ... let's face it: for the FIRST TIME UPGRADES worked!!!!!!

[Ferrari Man]

The biggest result Ferrari can only hope to achieve this year is holding onto Alonso for another year.. So sad...

[shamim179]

I don't have a problem if the season is lost. We can't be winning always. But what does bother me is that we don't seem to be really improving despite our efforts. I also think the majority of the credit for the improvement in China goes to Shell for bringing in their new fuel mixture. I believe Total have brought in their own new fuel mixture to Barcelona which explains the rise in competiveness within the Renault powered teams.

[shamim179]

The biggest result Ferrari can only hope to achieve this year is holding onto Alonso for another year.. So sad...

I see no reason for Alonso to stay other than not having other available options. It's concerning that almost year after year Luca vows to provide Alonso with a better car and that he is confident that he will stay in the team.

[Alonso14]

yes,that Merc engine could power a plane it seem's, and ours maybe a tractor:roll

Don't kid yourself. Imagine how dangerous and useless a tractor would be with such poor power delivery :roll

Looks like our best achievement this year would be to keep our top drivers because given their age I'd imagine they would want to spend their final years actually fighting for anything other than Q3:-??

Monaco in 2 weeks time would be a proper nightmare. Kimi and Fernando would have drive out of their skins to ensure the car does not end up in the wall.

[stefa]

I don't have a problem if the season is lost. We can't be winning always.

Me either. Just refresh my mind when we won last time...?

[stefa]

but I hope there will be big progress at every race, until we can catch up again next season, or the season after.

Actually what is BIG progress between last and this race? Now it is 2 sec gap in Q!

[hogo]

Oh well yet another depressing weekend it seems. Good thing is that I am getting used to this, so each day I care less...

[hogo]

Actually what is BIG progress between last and this race? Now it is 2 sec gap in Q!

Me either. Just refresh my mind when we won last time...?
leave those dreamers alone, stefa. Let them live in denial. Everyone copes with this as best as they can. So should we.

[stefa]

leave those dreamers alone, stefa. Let them live in denial. Everyone copes with this as best as they can. So should we.

and you said it for me in your post #184....

[bondilad]

Although I'm very disappointed as far as how qualifying went, I think our race pace isn't too bad
compared to RB. So a podium might still be in reach.

[Rosso Corsa]

A difficult day in the office. Thanks goodness the pit crew and drivers don't give up as readily as the fans :-D

[hogo]

we are like a bunch of amateurs. Even freaking Lotus yes LOTUS with almost 0 mileage in testing. Yes we don't build aeroplanes we build tractors(f1 cars ofc). Even one power unit can't be as good as RB aero. Just another sad day of many for tifosi

It's shocking indeed how team like Lotus can improve their car while we can not. Mr. Mattiacci will have to sack and hire many people to turn things around. He should start with Tombazis and Marmorini in my humble opinion.

[hogo]

A difficult day in the office. Thanks goodness the pit crew and drivers don't give up as readily as the fans :-D

cos they are getting paid... Money keep their spirits high :). Fans meanwhile don't have such incentives...

[anuragiyer8989]

Disaster for vettel.....five place penalty!!!:clap

[Black Adder]

The only positive thing about this WE so far is that Kimi seems to be feeling better in his car. Hopefully Alonso can have a great start, as only he can. Anyway it is sad to see two WC not be able to fight for the first position...

[Nero Horse]

I don't have a problem if the season is lost. We can't be winning always. But what does bother me is that we don't seem to be really improving despite our efforts.

Yes, exactly. I too can accept that we're not winning, fine, so be it, I'll support and love Ferrari whether we win or lose, but what is the most frustrating thing for me is that we can't seem to make any progress whatsoever. Everybody else, well except Mclaren, can improve during the season, even Lotus with their small budget can. But we take one step forward in one race, and then two steps back again in the next race, I just don't get it. We have the financial means to be successful and some of the best technical minds at our service in the team, and yet we're always standing still in terms of development and have been in this same situation since like 2011. Why?! I could understand if one season is like this or even two, that's normal in motorsport, but to be in this miserable state for so long without being able to make even some visible progress is just beyond reasonable comprehension. We managed to make a step forward in China, that was great, but now, three weeks later we're basically back where we were before China...how is that even possible? How can a team with so much experience and strong financial backing stay in such a low point season after season after season? It's really a mystery. How can we not sort things out and get better? And I don't even mean start winning or dominating, all I would want is for us to be able to make at least some reasonable progress and get better step by step...is that too much to ask? I don't think so. But right now we can't seem to be able to do even that.

Oh well, all we can do is hope and pray that someday (hopefully soon) we can sort these fundamental problems out once and for all, and manage to stop this regressive trend and start showing some steady positive progress. "After every storm comes sunshine"...this has to be true in our team's case as well, or at least I really-really hope so.

[Kristof_F40]

cos they are getting paid... Money keep their spirits high :). Fans meanwhile don't have such incentives...

Speak for yourself, don't use "fans"..

[Rob]

A difficult day in the office. Thanks goodness the pit crew and drivers don't give up as readily as the fans :-D

:clap spot on mate, i know alot of Mclaren and sorry to say RBR fans. The Mclaren fans i havent seen them or heard them bash the team or given up hope. If anything they even more come together and support them.

It just seems alot of "fans" here, come here and cannt find anything to support, just bash and say its all over. It well maybe, but im not giving up hope, i will support them ALL 150% no matter what. So what it may takes another year for a win, when it comes be amazing.


Yes we Ferrari, and should be winning and dominating, but so should Mclaren, they just as big race winners and WDC WCC winners as us.

[Kyss4k]

:clap spot on mate, i know alot of Mclaren and sorry to say RBR fans. The Mclaren fans i havent seen them or heard them bash the team or given up hope. If anything they even more come together and support them.

It just seems alot of "fans" here, come here and cannt find anything to support, just bash and say its all over. It well maybe, but im not giving up hope, i will support them ALL 150% no matter what. So what it may takes another year for a win, when it comes be amazing.


Yes we Ferrari, and should be winning and dominating, but so should Mclaren, they just as big race winners and WDC WCC winners as us.

I also have some McLaren fans. They stopped watching F1 last year... Is that better then what is happening here? Even on F1 forums, when McLaren or RBR is not doing well, you don't see their fans anywhere. But when they are winning oh dear, there's full forums of them. That's not being fan or caring for the team.

And I envy you the ability to keep hope up for so long. I tired that, but it made the feelings of losing even more painfull.

[Rob]

I also have some McLaren fans. They stopped watching F1 last year... Is that better then what is happening here? Even on F1 forums, when McLaren or RBR is not doing well, you don't see their fans anywhere. But when they are winning oh dear, there's full forums of them. That's not being fan or caring for the team.

And I envy you the ability to keep hope up for so long. I tired that, but it made the feelings of losing even more painfull.

If they turn off, not interested in F1 because their team isnt winning, that is not a true fan , sorry. Just glory hunters.

End of day, im Ferrari through and through, from F1 to local GT racing, WEC, as long as there Ferrari there racing, i will watch and support them. We will win, we been caught napping bit with the compressor shaft, but as soon as we unlock that performance we be there (our engine layout the same as Mercs)

[fratelliferrari]

A difficult day in the office. Thanks goodness the pit crew and drivers don't give up as readily as the fans :-D

Well said, I totally agree with you :thumb Iam getting so sick of most of these comments in this thread, what a negativity come on :furious

[Ed Harley]

KR said in interview for Finnish MTV3 that the car is difficult and lacks grip everywhere. This is because of fundamental design of the car and that is something that cannot be corrected by just setup changes.

Also:
http://en.espnf1.com/spain/motorsport/story/157503.html

[Kyss4k]

If they turn off, not interested in F1 because their team isnt winning, that is not a true fan , sorry. Just glory hunters.

End of day, im Ferrari through and through, from F1 to local GT racing, WEC, as long as there Ferrari there racing, i will watch and support them. We will win, we been caught napping bit with the compressor shaft, but as soon as we unlock that performance we be there (our engine layout the same as Mercs)

That's what I'm trying to say.

We here (mostly) are fans. And as those we have different ways of handeling it. I don't, for example, get your almost blind optimism (not meaning it as a bad thing), because as I see it, we didn't have the compressor problem in previous years. But we weren't on top either. And it kinda drives me crazy to be reading this stuff all the time.

The same goes for the other side. You are for sure tired of the "moaning". But if there would not be those comments, it would turn out as I wrote in my previous post with RBR and McLaren. It would be empty here. So I guess we will have to accept it and "suffer" our time, before we will rise on top again.

[hogo]

Hey Rob, enlighten me. Am I a "glory hunter" if I turn off F1 after half the season is done? I do this for the past few years. I simply can't stand looking at Ferrari when it's doing poorly. I don't mind it for the first part of the season, cos I am an optimist... but when I see that there is no hope I just turn my back on a team. Yet I always come back next year and start following Ferrari when they unveil their new F1 car. It's the pattern I follow for many years now, maybe since 2004... Yeah, 2004 was the last year I watched every single race.

[Kiwi Nick]

[QUOTE=Ed Harley;842645]KR said in interview for Finnish MTV3 that the car is difficult and lacks grip everywhere. This is because of fundamental design of the car and that is something that cannot be corrected by just setup changes.

That has been my feeling. Even as Ferrari improve the PU and the aero, the basic chassis/concept of the car is lacking.

For the past few years, it seems that the suspension does not generate enough mechanical grip. Same thing this year. That lack of mechanical grip makes the twitchiness caused by the PU even worse. Even if the PU were perfect, the basic platform is not stable. It is only driver skill that has produced results, in spite of the cars behavior.

[fratelliferrari]

Hey Rob, enlighten me. Am I a "glory hunter" if I turn off F1 after half the season is done? I do this for the past few years. I simply can't stand looking at Ferrari when it's doing poorly. I don't mind it for the first part of the season, cos I am an optimist... but when I see that there is no hope I just turn my back on a team. Yet I always come back next year and start following Ferrari when they unveil their new F1 car. It's the pattern I follow for many years now, maybe since 2004... Yeah, 2004 was the last year I watched every single race.

Yes a typical gloryhunter :lol You should support Ferrari ever not only when there's a chance of winning!

[Rob]

That's what I'm trying to say.

We here (mostly) are fans. And as those we have different ways of handeling it. I don't, for example, get your almost blind optimism (not meaning it as a bad thing), because as I see it, we didn't have the compressor problem in previous years. But we weren't on top either. And it kinda drives me crazy to be reading this stuff all the time.

The same goes for the other side. You are for sure tired of the "moaning". But if there would not be those comments, it would turn out as I wrote in my previous post with RBR and McLaren. It would be empty here. So I guess we will have to accept it and "suffer" our time, before we will rise on top again.

Not blind, my religion is Ferrari. It hurts me, and i take it very persnal when we loose or are doing bad, but i know what we went through in the 80s, early 90s. Alot of "fans" been spoilt by the Schumacher glory years, and expect that every race, year.

I just dont see how moaning and swearing and venting anger, bashing the design teams all the time, as it will not change anything. It just makes be more dedicated to supporting my team, in this hard times.

Maybe, just me, but i never turn my back and give up hope. As tomorrow is a new day.

[Rob]

Hey Rob, enlighten me. Am I a "glory hunter" if I turn off F1 after half the season is done? I do this for the past few years. I simply can't stand looking at Ferrari when it's doing poorly. I don't mind it for the first part of the season, cos I am an optimist... but when I see that there is no hope I just turn my back on a team. Yet I always come back next year and start following Ferrari when they unveil their new F1 car. It's the pattern I follow for many years now, maybe since 2004... Yeah, 2004 was the last year I watched every single race.

Sorry if i insult you somehow, but i sleep, eat breath all Ferrari, i never turn off or turn my back on the team. As that is giving up on them. Do that, in my eyes, dont support them. Merc are winning, easy to support a winning team.

That isnt aimed at you, or anyone, just how I feel.

[Lesky]

In summary during Alonsos 4 years he has had the 2nd best car, so not really sure why he would be jumping ship - no guarantee he will be in a better position with a new team!

[Nero Horse]

... but when I see that there is no hope I just turn my back on a team.

If you turn your back on Ferrari when they're struggling and need support the most then you're not a true fan. I don't mean to insult you, but that's just how it is and you should know it yourself as well.

[Kyss4k]

Not blind, my religion is Ferrari. It hurts me, and i take it very persnal when we loose or are doing bad, but i know what we went through in the 80s, early 90s. Alot of "fans" been spoilt by the Schumacher glory years, and expect that every race, year.

I just dont see how moaning and swearing and venting anger, bashing the design teams all the time, as it will not change anything. It just makes be more dedicated to supporting my team, in this hard times.

Maybe, just me, but i never turn my back and give up hope. As tomorrow is a new day.

The bold part, you are seriously blowing it out of proportions here. We just want to be competitive. To fight for wins. Even if it would mean to lose doing that.

As I said. People are different. I am a die hard fan of all Ferrari related but right now, people working for Ferrari are hurting it. And I'm not fine with that.
We expect the best from our drivers. And so do I expect the best from our engineers. So far, we are not getting it.

[Senna4Ever]

Yes we Ferrari, and should be winning and dominating, but so should Mclaren, they just as big race winners and WDC WCC winners as us.

I think it would be time for joint venture :lol

[Kyss4k]

In summary during Alonsos 4 years he has had the 2nd best car, so not really sure why he would be jumping ship - no guarantee he will be in a better position with a new team!

Wrong. He was the 2nd best, but not with the 2nd best car. He massively gained from the mistakes of others and from him being genius. There was no season where we had the 2nd best car overall. Probably maybe 2010 but that's it.

[Senna4Ever]

... on the other hand it can go on this way for a while ... since years other people are more friendly to me when I wear my Ferrari Shirt ... always have a smile in their face ... or they let me pass the line at the mall. World has become a lot more friendly ;)

[PadGeT]

... on the other hand it can go on this way for a while ... since years other people are more friendly to me when I wear my Ferrari Shirt ... always have a smile in their face ... or they let me pass the line at the mall. World has become a lot more friendly ;)

:lol
U crack me up every time. Thank you , sir!! :clap

[Kyss4k]

... on the other hand it can go on this way for a while ... since years other people are more friendly to me when I wear my Ferrari Shirt ... always have a smile in their face ... or they let me pass the line at the mall. World has become a lot more friendly ;)

Is it that bad already? :-D

[Nero Horse]

Wrong. He was the 2nd best, but not with the 2nd best car. He massively gained from the mistakes of others and from him being genius. There was no season where we had the 2nd best car overall. Probably maybe 2010 but that's it.

In 2012 we had the 2nd best car overall as well, at least in race trim.

[Kyss4k]

In 2012 we had the 2nd best car overall as well, at least in race trim.

McLaren had better car for most of the time. They did so many mistakes and have too much DNF's that it was crazy.

[Nero Horse]

McLaren had better car for most of the time. They did so many mistakes and have too much DNF's that it was crazy.

Well on race pace we were pretty much on par with Macca, I remember in Hockenheim Button sat most of the race behind Fernando and wasn't able to overtake. But they probably had the better car in qualifying. So allow me to rephrase my earlier statement...in 2012 we had equally 2nd best car overall in race trim and 3rd/4th best car in qualifying.

[ntukza]

Yep, we did it again. Roll out 2015.

[ntukza]

Luca D says he was very unhappy about Ferrari's start to the season. Then he says Stefano told him he wanted to resign, and Luca told him to think about it three more days because it's a big decision. If Luca really didn't fire Stefano then that means Luca would have done nothing about Ferrari's bad start. Stefano made a decision Luca should have made but had no courage to. I'm beginning to think Luca is more talk than action.

[hogo]

Sorry if i insult you somehow, but i sleep, eat breath all Ferrari, i never turn off or turn my back on the team. As that is giving up on them. Do that, in my eyes, dont support them. Merc are winning, easy to support a winning team.

That isnt aimed at you, or anyone, just how I feel.

But when all hope is lost, I don't turn to other team, to other driver... I just stop following F1 and wait for the next year. Ferrari is the only team I ever supported for almost 20 years now. Yes I may not be as hardcore as some of you but I am still a fan.

[Rob]

Gearbox grid penalty adds to Vettel’s pain10 May 2014
Sebastian Vettel (GER) Red Bull Racing walks in after stopping in Q3.
Formula One World Championship, Rd5, Spanish Grand Prix, Qualifying, Barcelona, Spain, Saturday, 10 May 2014
Reigning world champion Sebastian Vettel is set to start Sunday’s race in Spain from a lowly 15th place after Red Bull had to change the gearbox on his car following his problems in qualifying.

Vettel qualified 10th in Barcelona after coming to halt on track early in Q3 with transmission issues. The German will now drop to 15th thanks to the five-place grid penalty applicable when a gearbox fails to last six consecutive events.

It means Force India’s Nico Hulkenberg and Sergio Perez, Toro Rosso’s Daniil Kvyat, Sauber’s Esteban Gutierrez and McLaren’s Kevin Magnussen all move up one in the starting order, to places 10 to 14 respectively.

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2014/5/15812.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[shamim179]

2010 : 3rd best car but extremely close to the 2nd best car which was the McLaren.

2011 : didn't follow that season closely but 3rd or 4th best perhaps? Red Bull were easily the best car.

2012: overall 3rd best but this order did change throughout the season hence why I'm saying overall. McLaren had the best car better than Red Bull.

2013: 3rd or 4th best car but perhaps this is an anomaly? McLaren messed up and if they just evolved their 2012 car for the 2013 season we would have been 4th or 5th best car. Both Lotus and Red Bull had better cars. We were more or less on par with Mercedes throughout the season but towards the end of the season we were slower than them.

2014: ?

There is a clear but steady deterioration in terms of the car performance year by year ever since we let go of Costa.

[PadGeT]

Does RB make their own gearboxes, or are they supplied by some technical partner?

[Rob]

Does RB make their own gearboxes, or are they supplied by some technical partner?

not sure on that, but be something else they can blame on a supplier :roll

[Nero Horse]

Luca D says he was very unhappy about Ferrari's start to the season. Then he says Stefano told him he wanted to resign, and Luca told him to think about it three more days because it's a big decision. If Luca really didn't fire Stefano then that means Luca would have done nothing about Ferrari's bad start. Stefano made a decision Luca should have made but had no courage to. I'm beginning to think Luca is more talk than action.

Oh enough of this "who fired or didn't fire Stefano" talk! The fact is that Stefano is gone and Mattiacci is the new TP, whether Stefano was sacked or left on his own initiative is irrelevant. Even if Luca personally didn't fire Stefano then I'm pretty sure he would've done that at the end of this season anyway, maybe he just didn't want to make such a big change in the middle of the season, but then Stefano resigned on his own and that was it.

[Senna4Ever]

Does RB make their own gearboxes, or are they supplied by some technical partner?

as far as I know they do ...
I was searching for a Link but couldn't find a valuable source ... in any direction ...

[PadGeT]

Hmm.. I thought so too. I read somewhere they were using the Mclaren one, but changed it during 2010 and started making their own. OR was it the alternators?

[wacc]

Does RB make their own gearboxes, or are they supplied by some technical partner?

in-house.


While Renault supply us with engines, our gearboxes are made and tested in-house.
http://www.infiniti-redbullracing.com/article/factory

[AfterLife]

I believe we can definitely overtake Lotus and Williams in race.

[stefa]

The bold part, you are seriously blowing it out of proportions here. We just want to be competitive. To fight for wins. Even if it would mean to lose doing that.


Spot on 100%!
That is what I am saying too! Yes it was so nice to destroy competition from 2000 - 2004, and we all knew it will come to stop one day. I am fine with that. But I am not fine to be pale midfield team!

[Stormsearcher]

This is rather depressing. :-s

I keep thinking next race our upgrades will close the gap etc., Everything feels like its standing still.. oh wait, mercedes just went faster than anyone else.

Anyways, lets hope for a good race at least tomorrow. Getting on the podium for either of our drivers looks very difficult. So let it rain, SC, anything.. lets have a good race.

[Nova]

I think our race pace should be improved..we should have a good race.


Yaknow, a lot of this no grip stuff is STILL down to Pirelli.

[Nova]

KR said in interview for Finnish MTV3 that the car is difficult and lacks grip everywhere. This is because of fundamental design of the car and that is something that cannot be corrected by just setup changes.

Also:
http://en.espnf1.com/spain/motorsport/story/157503.html

Whats so fundamental about a design flaw?

How can people this smart not notice a "fundamental" design flaw? Time to build a car without one then.

[ntukza]

Oh enough of this "who fired or didn't fire Stefano" talk! The fact is that Stefano is gone and Mattiacci is the new TP, whether Stefano was sacked or left on his own initiative is irrelevant. Even if Luca personally didn't fire Stefano then I'm pretty sure he would've done that at the end of this season anyway, maybe he just didn't want to make such a big change in the middle of the season, but then Stefano resigned on his own and that was it.

You'll notice my post is more about Luca than Stefano, who is still very much a part of Ferrari and getting more involved in the F1 team. If he would have tolerated Stefano till the end of the season, why should we believe that he will bring positive changes? The situation says a lot about his leadership value. Very relevant if you ask me.

[abbottcostello]

They don't give points for FP or Quali, at least save all the gloom until after the race. Let's race!

All those who "don't want to gain that way" (vettel's breakdown), that is the aspect of F1 called reliability. I have no guilt accepting those gains, just as when we lose out to a failure we take the losses as part of the sport.

[anacleto]

Lewis, Alonso, Kimi on the podium!

[Nero Horse]

You'll notice my post is more about Luca than Stefano, who is still very much a part of Ferrari and getting more involved in the F1 team. If he would have tolerated Stefano till the end of the season, why should we believe that he will bring positive changes? The situation says a lot about his leadership value. Very relevant if you ask me.

After everything that Luca has done and achieved with Ferrari, I really wouldn't worry about his leadership abilities if I were you. Luca is the right man to lead Ferrari, there's absolutely no doubt about that in my mind, but you're entitled to your own personal opinion of course.

[gazoz]

After everything that Luca has done and achieved with Ferrari, I really wouldn't worry about his leadership abilities if I were you. Luca is the right man to lead Ferrari, there's absolutely no doubt about that in my mind, but you're entitled to your own personal opinion of course.
Agreed give this saga a rest LDM abilities are never in doubt

[ALO]

So where did we qualify guys?

[ALO]

I guess judging by comments we are out of Q3?

[ALO]

Ok I see same place as usual except kimi higher today so at least he improves. Wow very close between our drivers.

[ALO]

So some updates worked and we are better than China.

" Ferrari Kimi Raikkonen (6th, Q3 - 1:27.104) "We can't be pleased with sixth place, because naturally we want to be fighting for the top places. But compared to the last race, we have managed to solve some problems and have improved the feeling I have from the car. Yesterday, the long run went well and, in general, we did a good job, but there is still much more to do, because we are not yet as fast as we would like to be. Tomorrow, the goal is to get a good start and then have a normal race. Of course, we will also need a good strategy and we will have to keep an eye on our tyre management. It won't be easy, but we are definitely going to fight."

Fernando Alonso (7th, Q3 - 1:27.140) "This wasn't a good qualifying session, but the outcome was more or less what we could have expected on a difficult weekend, especially in terms of grip, not just for us but for all the teams. I'd definitely have liked to be starting from further up, but that's how it went today, we weren't quick enough and now we must think about tomorrow and try to make up some places to score as many points as possible. Of the updates we brought here, some worked, while others need further testing. There is a definite improvement compared to China, but we have some problems with the rear, despite the many set-up changes we made. Kimi did very well and I hope that both Ferraris can finish higher up. Now we must find the best strategy for tomorrow and try to get a good start. But above all, we mustn't make any mistakes, because this race demands a high level of concentration."

[xpman]

You would thought be someone in the Fiat family who knew about all this Hybrid engine stuff .
Is no good Luca moaning about it he voted for this crap Personally I hope This F1 dies and is reborn where the rules are for Motor racing .

[Giallo 550]

Spanish Qualifying was the first F1 event my father watched this year. During it, he asked "Why do the cars look like they're much slower than last year?" I had to be the one to tell him that they're running turbo V-6 engines, and he just shook his head.

[Winter]

Spanish Qualifying was the first F1 event my father watched this year. During it, he asked "Why do the cars look like they're much slower than last year?" I had to be the one to tell him that they're running turbo V-6 engines, and he just shook his head.

These new engines are not the reason why cars are "slower". They are more powerful than the old ones and top-speeds are higher too..

[20000rpm]

Just out of curiosity, why did Ross leave the team? I am certain money was not the issue.

[fadyferrari]

Just out of curiosity, why did Ross leave the team? I am certain money was not the issue.

I read somewhere it was because he wanted to lead to team,but luca wanted an italiam at helm.

[20000rpm]

I read somewhere it was because he wanted to lead to team,but luca wanted an italiam at helm.
Hmm, no wonder why LdM keeps on ranting that an Italian should be a TP. Giving preference to nationality over talent and leadership surely took a toll on this team.

[Senna4Ever]

to Offer: victory in Eurovision song contest 2014 (artist of the song not included, extra negotiation )
want: Ferrari improving out of the box

?
anyone who want to deal?

[stefa]

to Offer: victory in Eurovision song contest 2014 (artist of the song not included, extra negotiation )
want: Ferrari improving out of the box

?
anyone who want to deal?

Congratulations on last night victory!

[stefa]

to Offer: victory in Eurovision song contest 2014 (artist of the song not included, extra negotiation )
want: Ferrari improving out of the box

?
anyone who want to deal?

Congratulations on last night victory!