Brawn,Newey and Bob?

[sachin]

Ferrari wants Brawn, Bell and Newey – Report

(GMM/Inautonews.com) Bob Bell could be the next piece of the puzzle, as Ferrari looks to end its slump and return to the top of formula one.
Already reported by multiple authoritative sources is that the fabled Maranello team is prepared to ‘break the bank’ and sign Red Bull’s Adrian Newey, who is already paid a rumoured $12 million per year.
“Ferrari badly want Adrian Newey,” a Ferrari source told the Guardian newspaper.
“I don’t know whether they have talked to him yet, but if not, they will.”
But Red Bull team boss Christian Horner said the 55-year-old is happy at Milton Keynes.
“He has made his feelings clear to me about the team,” Horner commented after the outbreak of the latest rumours.
“The speculation is purely that. You can understand why Ferrari would be looking.”
Newey, however, may not be Ferrari’s only target. Ross Brawn has already been linked with a return to Italy, and now the Spanish newspaper El Mundo Deportivo claims Bob Bell is another possible recruit.
It was announced last month that Bell will be leaving his role as dominant Mercedes’ technical director, the German team saying he is seeking “new challenges” elsewhere.
“It is rumoured Brawn, Bell and Newey could bring order to Ferrari’s technical department,” said El Mundo Deportivo.
According to Italy’s La Gazzetta dello Sport, Ferrari is also close to acknowledging that – given Mercedes’ utter dominance – “It is already time” to begin thinking about the 2015 season.
It is believed president Luca di Montezemolo had said Barcelona, Monaco and Montreal are key races before Ferrari must decide if focusing on the F14-T’s successor should be the main objective.
Also rumoured is that Ferrari’s turbo V6 engine project for 2015, codenamed 666, is currently more advanced than it normally would be at this time of year.
Yet another rumour is that Fernando Alonso has finally lost patience waiting for a title-winning Ferrari, and is now casting eyes at Mercedes.
Mercedes team chairman Niki Lauda, however, is quoted by Speed Week: “We have two top drivers already, both going for the win. So what would we do with Alonso?”

[sachin]

Project 666?:Hmm

6 Cylinder
6 years since the last WCC?:-D

[Giallo 550]

Project 666?:Hmm

6 Cylinder
6 years since the last WCC?:-D

Yeah, and probably another 6 years before their next WCC is won. :Hmm

[stefa]

Project 666?:Hmm

6 Cylinder
6 years since the last WCC?:-D

NO! It is mistake of one who has written article. Every Ferrari F1 car has it code name before getting a "real name". Those names are in format 6XX. Engine code names are in format 05X. Car for 2014 is project 665, which means that Ferrari Formula 1 car fior 2015 will be diabolus 666!
Let's hope it will really be so "evil" and reap the field next year!

[Kiwi Nick]

Let's hope that a project named 666 isn't doomed to failure.

[Kiwi Nick]

Maybe Formula 1 could take a page from American baseball and negotiate a multi-player trade. Newey and Ricciardo from Red Bull to Ferrari for Alonso. Holy cow, would it be interesting to see Vettel deal with Alonso in the same car.

[PURE PASSION]

Maybe Formula 1 could take a page from American baseball and negotiate a multi-player trade. Newey and Ricciardo from Red Bull to Ferrari for Alonso. Holy cow, would it be interesting to see Vettel deal with Alonso in the same car.

And without Newey!!

[wisepie]

Surely the time will come when Newey isn't the main man, in fact he's not with Merc either and they have Aldo Costa who was with Ferrari.....collecting Brawn/Bell sounds like a positive move but it doesn't guarantee anything. Maybe we should focus on 2015, but I doubt that either of our drivers will be with us.:roll

[stefa]

Surely the time will come when Newey isn't the main man, in fact he's not with Merc either and they have Aldo Costa who was with Ferrari.....collecting Brawn/Bell sounds like a positive move but it doesn't guarantee anything. Maybe we should focus on 2015, but I doubt that either of our drivers will be with us.:roll

On the other hand, if all those gentlemans arrive at Ferrari, and they finally make beast of a car, than any one will drive it to the WDC and CWC!

[Tifoso]

I wonder what project 666 is. I am willing to bet that the devil is in the details.


*ducks thrown objects*

[wisepie]

On the other hand, if all those gentlemans arrive at Ferrari, and they finally make beast of a car, than any one will drive it to the WDC and CWC!

Just to annoy you, stefa, maybe we could get Felipe back and that beast of a car will deliver him what he deserved in 2008. But you're right, we'll always have the best drivers until their patience is exhausted, and I don't blame Fernando if he's had enough.

[Rob]

I said Bob Bell the other month.;-)

[Tifoso]

I said Bob Bell the other month.;-)


I said walnuts yesterday, FWIW. :-)

[Hornet]

Let's hope that a project named 666 isn't doomed to failure.

After what happened this season, the only way it can be different is if it's a success :-G

[AfterLife]

I wonder what project 666 is. I am willing to bet that the devil is in the details.

Indeed. Triangle of shopping. :-D

[stefa]

Just to annoy you, stefa, maybe we could get Felipe back and that beast of a car will deliver him what he deserved in 2008. But you're right, we'll always have the best drivers until their patience is exhausted, and I don't blame Fernando if he's had enough.

I won't be annoyed at all! If they produce, as I said beast of a car, they can give it to any one to drive. Yes it could be some kind of heaven justice for FM to get what he deserved back in 2008.

[Rob]

I said walnuts yesterday, FWIW. :-)


:rotfl

[Alesi1]

Noticed on autos port forum, that apparently some conflict between pat fry and Allison re front pullrod. Allison wants it gone, pat is being difficult re this. I think since pat has been with our team we have been nowhere,so don't have much positive to say about him. It's almost as if it's a personal insult to him to get rid of it. Anyway brawn, bell would be great additions even without newey.

[mirafiori]

Noticed on autos port forum, that apparently some conflict between pat fry and Allison re front pullrod. Allison wants it gone, pat is being difficult re this. I think since pat has been with our team we have been nowhere,so don't have much positive to say about him. It's almost as if it's a personal insult to him to get rid of it. Anyway brawn, bell would be great additions even without newey.

Maybe Pat Fry is the modern day Nigel Stepney.;-)

[wisepie]

I won't be annoyed at all! If they produce, as I said beast of a car, they can give it to any one to drive. Yes it could be some kind of heaven justice for FM to get what he deserved back in 2008.
Thank you for your kind response, stefa, I expected you to shoot me down for mentioning FM, and heavenly justice is certainly what we all deserve!!:thumb

[Suzie]

Maybe Pat Fry is the modern day Nigel Stepney.;-)

At least Stepney did something positive during the good times.

[Greig]

Maybe Pat Fry is the modern day Nigel Stepney.;-)

Just a bit poor taste considering.

[stefa]

Thank you for your kind response, stefa, I expected you to shoot me down for mentioning FM, and heavenly justice is certainly what we all deserve!!:thumb

You are welcome! :thumb
We are all here for Ferrari and their driver take WDC together with CWC for the team!

[fratelliferrari]

Thank you for your kind response, stefa, I expected you to shoot me down for mentioning FM, and heavenly justice is certainly what we all deserve!!:thumb

:-D

[Nero Horse]

Yea, it would be absolutely amazing if we managed to get all three guys onboard, but I'd be very happy even if we could just get one of them at least. *fingers crossed*

[No1.FerrariFan!]

Surely the time will come when Newey isn't the main man, in fact he's not with Merc either and they have Aldo Costa who was with Ferrari.....collecting Brawn/Bell sounds like a positive move but it doesn't guarantee anything. Maybe we should focus on 2015, but I doubt that either of our drivers will be with us.:roll

Does this all come down to bad management from the top??? Like you have mentioned we had Aldo Costa where we had success in winning a Championship with Kimi and close with Massa the following year and i believe you don’t become a bad designer overnight so what happened? I think he had his hands tied and could not do what needed to be done, he goes to Merc shows his true potential again because he may have the freedom to explore the limits and shines. We get James Allison a fantastic designer/engineer comes to Ferrari and produces another failure for the team so could it be that our people have to go through so much red tape to get done that it just becomes to controlled and difficult to work outside the box and explore the limits? Technical Departments need to be left to be innovative and fresh and not bogged down with red tape!!!

I truely hoped that the engine era was going to be ours and we have even failed in that department!!!

Still keeping the faith that we will bounce back and shine again!!!

[vcs316]

Wolff gives Brawn credit for Mercedes' dominance

Mercedes boss Toto Wolff has revealed he is trying to lure departed chief Ross Brawn back into the team's F1 garage. Brawn, 59, stepped down at the end of last year but, during his first year of retirement, he has already been linked with a return to Ferrari, having even visited the fabled Italian team's base recently.

Wolff has now told the Telegraph that Briton Brawn can take some of the credit for Mercedes' current dominance of F1, insisting he still would have a valuable contribution to make. Austrian Wolff said it was Brawn who "realised" what Mercedes needed to do in order to succeed in the wake of Mercedes' 2010 takeover. "Ross Brawn realised in 2012 that it was not getting any better -– he started to recruit and to add some of the people to the organisation in key areas," he said.

Wolff also hailed Brawn's input in other key areas. "If there is a heated situation on a race weekend, I am trying to imagine what Ross would have done. If needed, I give him a call, but I can well see us missing Ross's calmness and experience in the heat of races, or in the heat of the championship. Ross has a considerable part in the success of this year. It's a big shame he's not here," said Wolff.

"I'm speaking with Ross regularly, and we are trying to get him to one of the next races to have a look at the team. He was so important in building the base, and setting in place some of the structures, and we would like him to be part of the team and see what's happening this year. He's going to come eventually -- he's promised to," Wolff added. (GMM)

http://www.f1today.net/en/news/wolff-gives-brawn-credit-for-mercedes-dominance?

[Alesi1]

[QUOTE=vcs316;844034][B]Wolff gives Brawn credit for Mercedes
Yep, he is frightened that brawn will take the intellectual knowledge of their car to Ferrari.

[wisepie]

Does this all come down to bad management from the top??? Like you have mentioned we had Aldo Costa where we had success in winning a Championship with Kimi and close with Massa the following year and i believe you don’t become a bad designer overnight so what happened? I think he had his hands tied and could not do what needed to be done, he goes to Merc shows his true potential again because he may have the freedom to explore the limits and shines. We get James Allison a fantastic designer/engineer comes to Ferrari and produces another failure for the team so could it be that our people have to go through so much red tape to get done that it just becomes to controlled and difficult to work outside the box and explore the limits? Technical Departments need to be left to be innovative and fresh and not bogged down with red tape!!!

I truely hoped that the engine era was going to be ours and we have even failed in that department!!!

Still keeping the faith that we will bounce back and shine again!!!
Probably some truth in what you say, but I admire your faith that things can get better, a true tifoso's stance!

[djmorin27]

allison came in with the car already designed all he can do is try and improve another failure he will make a difference next year said this before the italians have no right designing a f1 car they just cant do it we need a englishman or a german or a african all three were with us when micheal was winning heading to montreal in two weeks with a nasty message for ferrari look for it in grand stand 34 in the middle of the hair pin

[Greig]

allison came in with the car already designed all he can do is try and improve another failure he will make a difference next year said this before the italians have no right designing a f1 car they just cant do it we need a englishman or a german or a african all three were with us when micheal was winning heading to montreal in two weeks with a nasty message for ferrari look for it in grand stand 34 in the middle of the hair pin

Tombazis is Italian? oh dear.

[Kiwi Nick]

Tombazis is Italian? oh dear.

Yep!

[Greig]

Yep!

Oh dear.

[Nero Horse]

allison came in with the car already designed all he can do is try and improve another failure he will make a difference next year said this before the italians have no right designing a f1 car they just cant do it we need a englishman or a german or a african all three were with us when micheal was winning heading to montreal in two weeks with a nasty message for ferrari look for it in grand stand 34 in the middle of the hair pin

Designing a good or bad F1 car has got absolutely nothing to do with the designer's nationality LOL. Italians can design just as good cars as any other nationality. Mclaren has a team full of englishmen and when was the last time they won a Constructor's championship in F1? Oh, that's right, in 1998...16 years ago! So much for your theory on nationalities in F1 :-D. And fyi, Tombazis is not an Italian, he's Greek.

Oh and btw, who is the head designer at Merc, the guy who gets so much praise in this forum for his great contributions for Merc's domination...none other than Aldo Costa, an Italian.

[djmorin27]

Come on great real name a Italian designer that designed a f1 car for Ferrari that won a wcc or a dwc not going to happen until Allison or newly or pat fry start taking smart pills sorry no passes from me total let down decline in quality people right now three years they had and this is it I am so I have to drive 5 hrs spend over a thousand dollars to support this crap believe me it's going to be a nasty message for them

[Greig]

Come on great real name a Italian designer that designed a f1 car for Ferrari that won a wcc or a dwc

Mauro Forghieri

I think it's best you stop now.

[Greig]

Oh and btw, who is the head designer at Merc, the guy who gets so much praise in this forum for his great contributions for Merc's domination...none other than Aldo Costa, an Italian.

:rotfl

[Nero Horse]

Come on great real name a Italian designer that designed a f1 car for Ferrari that won a wcc or a dwc not going to happen until Allison or newly or pat fry start taking smart pills sorry no passes from me total let down decline in quality people right now three years they had and this is it I am so I have to drive 5 hrs spend over a thousand dollars to support this crap believe me it's going to be a nasty message for them

uhmm...have you ever heard of "punctuation"? Be so kind and use it in the future, so that we all could understand what you're trying to say. ;-)

And do you really think that your little "nasty message" is somehow going to make things better? Or that someone at Ferrari is going to read that? I think not. LOL :lol

Some Ferrari fan you are...going to a GP to show nasty messages about Ferrari, instead of supporting them and cheering them on...pfff that's really pathetic. Fortunately there aren't many Ferrari "fans" like you out there.

[djmorin27]

I am a huge Ferrari fan mr horse. At this point and time they have failed and let all of us down. Three years and a failure of a car lost championships due to bad calls bad designs inferior tools people you name it and they got it. LM is at fault he's the one with the check book and all of a sudden he's going to increase the budget should coulda woulda alittle to late three years and this is all they have to show for. I am heart broken to the point were I want to sell my Mercedes.
And yes the message will be nasty and it won't be little and the point will get across loud and clear. It's obvious that us Ferrari fans feelings issues concerns what we deserve have fallen on deft ears for some time now. May be being totally embarrassed and gutted is best thing for them so now they can really see who they are .

[Nero Horse]

I am a huge Ferrari fan mr horse. At this point and time they have failed and let all of us down. Three years and a failure of a car lost championships due to bad calls bad designs inferior tools people you name it and they got it. LM is at fault he's the one with the check book and all of a sudden he's going to increase the budget should coulda woulda alittle to late three years and this is all they have to show for. I am heart broken to the point were I want to sell my Mercedes.
And yes the message will be nasty and it won't be little and the point will get across loud and clear. It's obvious that us Ferrari fans feelings issues concerns what we deserve have fallen on deft ears for some time now. May be being totally embarrassed and gutted is best thing for them so now they can really see who they are .

Whatever lol... :lou

I can see that trying to talk some sense into you is a complete waste of time. All you want to do is rant.

[djmorin27]

Mr. Horse you seem to have forgotten what this message board is for. It's for us to rant and complain and butch and moan and Ferrari deserves it and it's to support them too. They are very weak and miss lead. You need to go and do some reading on a rainy day some of the shumi and Ferrari books the dominate years when Michael brought in his group of people Todt brawn Rory Allison no Italians in that group and told the the inner circle to F off we are doing it are way and they got the job done. So please don't give me what ever I am probably twice your age and following this team since 75

[Kiwi Nick]

It's obvious that us Ferrari fans feelings issues concerns what we deserve have fallen on deft ears for some time now. May be being totally embarrassed and gutted is best thing for them so now they can really see who they are .

First let me suggest that you have your sign checked for spelling and grammar.

Second let's hope that Ferrari are indeed deft when it comes to addressing issues with the F14T.

[djmorin27]

yes mr kiwi i will check my spelling when i make my message board.sorry i tend to do this stuff on my phone and my big fingers hit the wrong keys but i do see that you are understanding my thoughts quite well.

[Kiwi Nick]

yes mr kiwi i will check my spelling when i make my message board.sorry i tend to do this stuff on my phone and my big fingers hit the wrong keys but i do see that you are understanding my thoughts quite well.

Touch screen...I get it! A modern curse.

[AfterLife]

No Newey in Ferrari.
http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/159201.html
Bye Bye :wave

[djmorin27]

thanks for the understanding mr. kiwi we all bleed ferrari red and i dont mean to anger any one but three years this project has been going on and we are no were to be found.Even two out of the last three years we all kinda knew we were in trouble from the start including them and we would all say they should start on next years car early.I Even believe ferrari made a statement early during the season a couple years ago that they started with the new car and it amounted to nothing.three years and nothing again.Im angry i spent 700 bucks for tickets and hotel with four other guys back in december hoping praying feeling really good about this season and they dont stand a chance in montreal and the championship is over.thats why i am angry and then add another 500 for spending.Thats why i need to get how i feel about the situation to them.we have a mammouth tv tron smack in front of us.Hope you all understand.

[sachin]

No Newey in Ferrari.
http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/159201.html
Bye Bye :wave

But dont you think such statements keep coming ?
Many reports last year had reported kimi at RBR?
There still may be possibility of newey at Ferrari maybe not next yest but later?:Hmm

[AfterLife]

But dont you think such statements keep coming ?
Many reports last year had reported kimi at RBR?
There still may be possibility of newey at Ferrari maybe not next yest but later?:Hmm

There is always possibility, but there is no time to wait. Ferrari need to sort out their problem as soon as possible and build a good foundation for the new regulations to become competitive.
I consider Newey a person who is very interested in mind games despite his slow, simple and quiet manner.
Ferrari need to stick to their own guns and act like there will be no Newey even in future.
:pray I just hope Fernando Alonso is not interested to leave Ferrari. He is a massive asset.

[Nero Horse]

No Newey in Ferrari.
http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/159201.html
Bye Bye :wave

It's pretty much the same thing Newey and Horner already said earlier, only the wording has been changed slightly. It doesn't mean that the talks between Ferrari and Newey are over. We'll see, we'll see...

[Ed Harley]

No Newey in Ferrari.
http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/159201.html
Bye Bye :wave

Same on BBC:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/27520213

[RedRebel40]

Mercedes doesn't need Newey to win, so with the right technical and financial structure we can win again but I don't know if Mattiaci(spelling?) is the right person for this.

[Senna4Ever]

Same on BBC:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/27520213

and motorsport-total.com ... maybe also the same source which all those three are quoting?!

Not that I have really thought that this would happen as Newey always told how happy he is there and how he likes his private home Britain ...

[Kiwi Nick]

Frankly, Newey would be crazy to leave Red Bull. Everything there has been built to his liking. That would not be the case at Ferrari, he would be expected to fit in. I think Newey only leaves Red Bull when Red Bull gets out of F1.

[Hornet]

Frankly, Newey would be crazy to leave Red Bull. Everything there has been built to his liking. That would not be the case at Ferrari, he would be expected to fit in. I think Newey only leaves Red Bull when Red Bull gets out of F1.

While all of this is hypothetical, IF Ferrari wanted Newey, I think the team would be prepare to provide more than just a blank cheque. For example if there are key people Newey wishes to bring into the team, I'd imagine the team would at least consider it.

Again this is all just rumors, but if there's any truth that Ferrari is pursuing Newey, Brawn and Bell, it does look like the team is ready to make huge changes, so IMO the team will make room for any key people this person, Newey or Brawn or anyone, may want to bring on to the team.

[REDARMYSOJA]

thanks for the understanding mr. kiwi we all bleed ferrari red

That's exactly right and we are all equally disgusted with the past several season. You don't suffer any more than any other Ferrari fan. Coming here and running down the fans and team does not make you a bigger fan than the rest of us, nor know any more about the situation than most here nor do you have all the answers to what ails Ferrari. So why not try to lighten up a bit, eh?

[REDARMYSOJA]

No Newey in Ferrari.
http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/159201.html
Bye Bye :wave

"committed to Red Bull for the foreseeable future" does not sound like a "no" to me.

[bondilad]

Ferrari not giving up on Newey - report

May 28 (GMM) Ferrari has not given up on wooing Adrian Newey to Maranello.

That is the claim of the authoritative Italian daily La Gazzetta dello Sport, whose correspondent Luigi Perna outlined the latest plan to sign Red Bull's highly-coveted technical boss.

In Monaco, Red Bull rejected the speculation about Newey by insisting the 55-year-old remains committed for "the foreseeable future".

But that may have been before Ferrari's latest audacious offer to the Briton.

Perna said Ferrari is offering Newey unprecedented technical freedom, and also his own road-going supercar project and involvement in a possible Le Mans prototype bid.

Not to mention annual pay of about EUR 20 million.

"If the odds at first were zero, now the odds are 20-30 per cent," read the report. "It all depends on Newey."

It has also been claimed that signing Newey might convince Red Bull's quadruple world champion Sebastian Vettel to join him at Maranello.


If these rumors are true or not, ferrari is trying to make very aggressive decision unlike the last few years.This is very much visible and i wonder if this has to do with MM :Hmm. Whatever it is, I'm beginning to like what I see and hopefully we'll see the results on track.

[Alesi1]

Since we are on the newey topic - Can one of you guys with 'technical' skills do us (mostly me) a favour and photoshop an rb10 in Ferrari colours, so at least we can dream a bit about our beloved team having a beautiful and fast car to remind us of the mid nineties (95 is my fav) when ferraris last were ?

[Senna4Ever]

Ferrari not giving up on Newey - report

It has also been claimed that signing Newey might convince Red Bull's quadruple world champion Sebastian Vettel to join him at Maranello.


could we agree if someone of this community is posting a text where is a context between Vettel and Ferrari to add a warning at the beginning that it might get dirty?

[Rob]

FERRARI RESTRUCTURING MUST ALLOW ENGINEERS TO BE CREATIVE – NEWEY THE MAIN TARGET
Posted on May 27, 2014

Marco Mattiacci, the new team principal of Ferrari, has a good idea of the scale of the job he needs to do in order to return Ferrari to winning ways and it isn’t going to happen overnight.

Ferrari will have a major aerodynamic update package on the car for Montreal, as it traditionally does and a significant step on the power unit, which has been a major handicap on the straights this year.

If this doesn’t bring the team a good step closer to Mercedes, then it will inevitably begin to commit more resources to the engine side and to wind tunnel time to 2015, where it can make a difference.

But Mattiacci’s task is long term. Ferrari has lost the winning habit and he needs to recreate the culture that existed there under Jean Todt.

Current Ferrari technical director James Allison said at the weekend that Ferrari has no shortage of talented people, but the environment needs to be right for them to take risks. He blames a culture of fear of failure and unrealistic deadlines for Ferrari’s failure to innovate in recent years,

“There is a wealth of talent at Ferrari, the experience and quality of the people on the technical side is a match for any team. It is a question of giving them the encouragement to actually go off and do more unusual things and then have the time to look at them and know that if they fail it’s OK because there’s still time to put a back-up plan in place and for that to work,” he said.

“Creativity and originality will only come if you set out to allow the engineers in your organisation the space and the time to do that.

“If you force them to operate with their back against the wall, up against deadlines that are very tight, then there is no time for them to think about how they might approach something differently.”

In Monaco the talk was once again of Ferrari’s all out attempt to hire Adrian Newey away from Red Bull. Again, this is not going to happen overnight.

“I remain committed to Red Bull for the foreseeable future,” Newey said in Monaco.

But the foreseeable future is only the next year or two. Beyond that, anything is possible if the right circumstances are put in place.

Newey has been with Red Bull for seven years and historically that is about the length of time he was with Williams and McLaren before moving on to seek fresh challenges.

Newey is well aware of Ferrari, what it stands for and the prestige of the brand. He owns, drives and races Ferraris. He has no ideological barrier to working for Ferrari in Italy, merely to its reputation for being a turbulent environment.

He has said that previous attempts to hire him – of which there were many – came at the wrong time in his family life.

Now divorced with children who have mostly grown up, 55 year old Newey is at a different moment in his life. He has a new partner, Amanda Smerczak. His son is a keen kart racer and Italy is the hotbed of karting.

Anecdotally, one has the impression that Newey is indeed looking around at the moment, considering what to do next and he has bought himself some thinking time with his Monaco statement.

Ferrari is believed to be offering Newey a spectacular package which would give him, in addition to a massive salary comparable with many F1 drivers, the opportunity to be across Le Mans project, maybe even have a hand in designing a road going super car, but above all to make Ferrari the fastest F1 car out there.

All of this will be very tempting but what Newey needs is certainty that he and his department would be protected; from politics, from internal pressures and interference from FIAT and other outside forces and would be allowed to get on with their work.

He would also need a free rein to know that all the resources he needs are at his disposal, no questions asked. Mattiacci has been given a freedom previous Ferrari team boss Stefano Domenicali never had – to be able to sign things off quickly himself, without needing lengthy approvals. He has things set up more like the Todt regime in that sense. The team management can react more quickly and be more dynamic.

Newey works best in a protected environment and it is the thing he will be most concerned about at Ferrari, given its culture and politics. Todt managed to ring fence the team and was the strong man holding back the inside and outside forces to allow the team and its engineering innovators to thrive.

Mattiacci must reproduce that, and convince Newey very soon that he can do so, or the project will have little chance of succeeding.

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2014/05/ferrari-restructuring-must-allow-engineers-to-be-creative-newey-the-main-target/

[bondilad]

could we agree if someone of this community is posting a text where is a context between Vettel and Ferrari to add a warning at the beginning that it might get dirty?

Yeah. .. sorry about that. Got carried away with the hope of newey joining us:-D

[Nero Horse]

Ferrari not giving up on Newey - report

May 28 (GMM) Ferrari has not given up on wooing Adrian Newey to Maranello.

I knew it! ^^

When Newey said that he's committed to RB I thought right away that this was just a tactic from him to ease the pressure on himself and provide himself with more thinking time. These negotiations aren't over yet, not by a long shot. Ferrari is offering him a dream deal that's for sure.


If these rumors are true or not, ferrari is trying to make very aggressive decision unlike the last few years.This is very much visible and i wonder if this has to do with MM :Hmm. Whatever it is, I'm beginning to like what I see and hopefully we'll see the results on track.

Yep, I also have a feeling that Mattiacci's influence might be present in these moves. Glad to see that we're being more aggressive now, cause complacency obviously won't get us anywhere.

[Kiwi Nick]

What James Allen said is exactly right. Why in the world would Newey move to Ferrari to be chewed up and spit out by a culture that would make Borgias envious is unimaginable. His legacy does not need to be that of the man who couldn't win with the full force of Ferrari behind him. But, given the proper protections and support, the move to Ferrari could be very attractive. Particularly if Ferrari were also to commit to a serious Le Mans program in addition to F1.

[Nero Horse]

What James Allen said is exactly right. Why in the world would Newey move to Ferrari to be chewed up and spit out by a culture that would make Borgias envious is unimaginable. His legacy does not need to be that of the man who couldn't win with the full force of Ferrari behind him.

And despite it's little flaws and quirks Ferrari is still the greatest and most legendary F1 team, and a very alluring place to work, for anyone who's in motorsport, everybody knows that. Even Horner knows that. :-)

[vcs316]

Ferrari puts in new audacios bid for Adrian Newey

Ferrari has not given up on wooing Adrian Newey to Maranello.

That is the claim of the authoritative Italian daily La Gazzetta dello Sport, whose correspondent Luigi Perna outlined the latest plan to sign Red Bull's highly-coveted technical boss.

In Monaco, Red Bull rejected the speculation about Newey by insisting the 55-year-old remains committed for "the foreseeable future".

But that may have been before Ferrari's latest audacious offer to the Briton.

Perna said Ferrari is offering Newey unprecedented technical freedom, and also his own road-going supercar project and involvement in a possible Le Mans prototype bid.

Not to mention annual pay of about EUR 20 million.

"If the odds at first were zero, now the odds are 20-30 per cent," read the report. "It all depends on Newey."

It has also been claimed that signing Newey might convince Red Bull's quadruple world champion Sebastian Vettel to join him at Maranello.

But German Vettel said on Tuesday: "I feel very good about where I am and have so much to thank my team for.

"You don't just throw in the towel and look for something else after six bad races," he insisted.

Curiously, Vettel was at the wheel of Gerhard Berger's 1988 Ferrari on Tuesday for a promotional event at the forthcoming Austrian grand prix venue.

He got out of the car and said "Incredibile!" -- the Italian version of incredible.

Red Bull's Dr Helmut Marko grinned to reporters: "You can let our friends know quietly in Maranello that Sebastian even drives his Ferraris with us."

[Rob]

FERRARI RESTRUCTURING MUST ALLOW ENGINEERS TO BE CREATIVE – NEWEY THE MAIN TARGET
Posted on May 27, 2014

Marco Mattiacci, the new team principal of Ferrari, has a good idea of the scale of the job he needs to do in order to return Ferrari to winning ways and it isn’t going to happen overnight.

Ferrari will have a major aerodynamic update package on the car for Montreal, as it traditionally does and a significant step on the power unit, which has been a major handicap on the straights this year.

If this doesn’t bring the team a good step closer to Mercedes, then it will inevitably begin to commit more resources to the engine side and to wind tunnel time to 2015, where it can make a difference.

But Mattiacci’s task is long term. Ferrari has lost the winning habit and he needs to recreate the culture that existed there under Jean Todt.

Current Ferrari technical director James Allison said at the weekend that Ferrari has no shortage of talented people, but the environment needs to be right for them to take risks. He blames a culture of fear of failure and unrealistic deadlines for Ferrari’s failure to innovate in recent years,

“There is a wealth of talent at Ferrari, the experience and quality of the people on the technical side is a match for any team. It is a question of giving them the encouragement to actually go off and do more unusual things and then have the time to look at them and know that if they fail it’s OK because there’s still time to put a back-up plan in place and for that to work,” he said.

“Creativity and originality will only come if you set out to allow the engineers in your organisation the space and the time to do that.

“If you force them to operate with their back against the wall, up against deadlines that are very tight, then there is no time for them to think about how they might approach something differently.”

In Monaco the talk was once again of Ferrari’s all out attempt to hire Adrian Newey away from Red Bull. Again, this is not going to happen overnight.

“I remain committed to Red Bull for the foreseeable future,” Newey said in Monaco.

But the foreseeable future is only the next year or two. Beyond that, anything is possible if the right circumstances are put in place.

Newey has been with Red Bull for seven years and historically that is about the length of time he was with Williams and McLaren before moving on to seek fresh challenges.

Newey is well aware of Ferrari, what it stands for and the prestige of the brand. He owns, drives and races Ferraris. He has no ideological barrier to working for Ferrari in Italy, merely to its reputation for being a turbulent environment.

He has said that previous attempts to hire him – of which there were many – came at the wrong time in his family life.

Now divorced with children who have mostly grown up, 55 year old Newey is at a different moment in his life. He has a new partner, Amanda Smerczak. His son is a keen kart racer and Italy is the hotbed of karting.

Anecdotally, one has the impression that Newey is indeed looking around at the moment, considering what to do next and he has bought himself some thinking time with his Monaco statement.

Ferrari is believed to be offering Newey a spectacular package which would give him, in addition to a massive salary comparable with many F1 drivers, the opportunity to be across Le Mans project, maybe even have a hand in designing a road going super car, but above all to make Ferrari the fastest F1 car out there.

All of this will be very tempting but what Newey needs is certainty that he and his department would be protected; from politics, from internal pressures and interference from FIAT and other outside forces and would be allowed to get on with their work.

He would also need a free rein to know that all the resources he needs are at his disposal, no questions asked. Mattiacci has been given a freedom previous Ferrari team boss Stefano Domenicali never had – to be able to sign things off quickly himself, without needing lengthy approvals. He has things set up more like the Todt regime in that sense. The team management can react more quickly and be more dynamic.

Newey works best in a protected environment and it is the thing he will be most concerned about at Ferrari, given its culture and politics. Todt managed to ring fence the team and was the strong man holding back the inside and outside forces to allow the team and its engineering innovators to thrive.

Mattiacci must reproduce that, and convince Newey very soon that he can do so, or the project will have little chance of succeeding.

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2014/05/ferrari-restructuring-must-allow-engineers-to-be-creative-newey-the-main-target/

Fingers crossed, this can happen.

Imagine a Newey designed Ferrari supercar. :-E and a LMP1 car :-E:clap

[Nero Horse]

Imagine a Newey designed Ferrari supercar. :-E and a LMP1 car :-E:clap

Yes please! :clap

I'm sure that Newey would be very interested in that LMP1 project. If all these rumors about the offers that Ferrari is making him are true, then he might even come. But if he doesn't come, then no big deal, we'll just have to find another way to get back to our winning ways, which I'm sure we will. :-)

[Hornet]

Heck I would be interested to see a Ferrari LMP1 car, whatever happens.
I like how the cars look especially Audi R18, and I'm also a fan of the more open technical regulations.

Would be great to see a red Ferrari LMP car:-D

[stefa]

First, I would like to see Ferrari back into winning ways in formula 1, and than they can do what ever else they want!

[stefa]

Just read that AN has signed new multi year deal with Red Bull....

[Kyss4k]

Just read that AN has signed new multi year deal with Red Bull....

Just as an consultant. He going away from F1 from next year.

[hogo]

Wee need new chief designer ASAP. Newey is not avalable, then we need to look for someone else. The longer we wait the longer we will suffer.

[Ed Harley]

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/06/08/red-bull-extends-neweys-contract/

So he is not available for Ferrari.

[shamim179]

What now? Newey was going to be Ferrari's saviour. Doubtful that Brawn will return to us.

[Ed Harley]

Well, I would like to see the team to learn how to do the job by themselves in a way that gets them out of the hole. The people, equipment, facilities and funds are there.

[Nero Horse]

So, Newey is out, oh well moving on.....what's the situation with Bob Bell? Any news? :Hmm

[The Architect]

I find it interesting that Newey will take on 'new projects'. Perhaps they're planning some sort of road car (a Newey designed Nissan would be such a waste) or maybe even yacht which Newey has wanted to do for a while. There's more than a good chance he'll have less influence in the F1 team in future years.

Not that it matters of course as Ferrari have beaten Newey in the past, but I fear this restructuring process will be long and painful. I don't think Brawn or Bell are the solution either, our own people have to prove themselves.

[steelstallions]

I know i am in the minority here, but i don't want Newey and i don't want a Brawn return either. These are seasoned successful men with their best years behind them now. Yes you might get one or two good seasons out of them, but think for the future, invest in who we have and make the environment so they create instead of fear. We have the talent, it needs to work a different way to how it has, the new boss might just be the one to get that to happen

[Kyss4k]

I find it interesting that Newey will take on 'new projects'. Perhaps they're planning some sort of road car (a Newey designed Nissan would be such a waste) or maybe even yacht which Newey has wanted to do for a while. There's more than a good chance he'll have less influence in the F1 team in future years.

Not that it matters of course as Ferrari have beaten Newey in the past, but I fear this restructuring process will be long and painful. I don't think Brawn or Bell are the solution either, our own people have to prove themselves.

I think they have proven that they have no idea about what they're doing.

[Hornet]

I find it interesting that Newey will take on 'new projects'. Perhaps they're planning some sort of road car (a Newey designed Nissan would be such a waste) or maybe even yacht which Newey has wanted to do for a while. There's more than a good chance he'll have less influence in the F1 team in future years.

Not that it matters of course as Ferrari have beaten Newey in the past, but I fear this restructuring process will be long and painful. I don't think Brawn or Bell are the solution either, our own people have to prove themselves.

I believe Newey is actually leaving F1 side of things, not just less influence. Just like Rory Bryne, they tend to take on an advisory role first before completely retiring from F1. But he's handing the baton over to a new person next year. From his interview with Sky, he is looking forward to doing something else.

[Alonso14]

What now? Newey was going to be Ferrari's saviour. Doubtful that Brawn will return to us.

Come to think of it: if it wasn't Newey we'd probably have won the 2010, 2012 and 2013 Championships so it's not the end of the world that he's not joining us (given the fact that he's leaving Red Bull Racing)

At the end of the day we couldn't offer him what Red Bull were: a non-F1 role.