2014 Italian GP Race Thread

[tifosi1993]

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Circuit: Autodromo Nazionale di Monza
Total laps: 53
Total length: 5.793 km
Race distance: 306.720 km
No. of turns: 11
Downforce level: Very low
Brake wear: Medium
Tyre wear: Low
Full throttle: 77% of the lap
Average speed: 250 km/h (approx.)
Top speed: 351.7 km/h (approx)
Pit stop: 420 mts. / 100 Km / h. / 19.8 secs. + Stop

Tyre compounds

Option: Pirelli P-Zero Medium (White)
Prime: Pirelli P-Zero Hard (Orange)

Lap record: 1:21,046 - Rubens Barichello (2004, Ferrari F2004)



Circuit Layout

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FORZA FERRARI!

[Kingdom Hearts]

I hope we have a safe first lap, after that, we will get, what we deserve. :thumb

[F1NAC]

What is the difference between 2nd and 3rd to last

[LivingHitokiri]

We can do it, i believe we get a podium today!

[tifosi1993]

What is the difference between 2nd and 3rd to last

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[Fer138]

Good luck and All the Best to our Boys! :ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl

Thanks tifosi1993 for very nice opening post.

[Cemz85]

How is the weather?

[fratelliferrari]

Forza Ferrari!

[ARUN M KARUNAN]

we will be on podium

[Kristof_F40]

We're racing McLaren and RBR here, Williams and Merc will be to far ahead for us to beat on pace. So we need to focus on staying ahead of RBR and overtaking McLaren, if there are troubles ahead we can benefit. I think we are faster than McLaren but overtaking will be hard. RBR will be very fast as well.. Hoping on a good start, hopefully it will be clean

[Alessandra]

Exxpectations not high from Fry, Alonso or Raikkonen, so stay safe, guys, and good luck:pass:pass:ferrarifl:ferrarifl

[Reikai]

Is anyone got good stream?

[stefa]

Hi ever1. Hope we are going to have good clean race...

[Hornet]

This stream works for me. Not really HD quality but it works
http://www.vipleague.me/motorsports/95559/1/skysports-f1-:-skyf1-live-stream-online.html

[Katu]

so nice to hear italian anthem for once this season

[Katu]

let's hope our guys have good clean start

[F1Jan]

Hello again everyone. Lets hope for excitement, fast and clean and a great result for our guys

[Hornet]

Best of luck everyone. :ferrarifl

[stefa]

so nice to hear italian anthem for once this season

Hope to hear it again later on :-)

[Scuderia85]

Forza Ferrari

[wacc]

Forza :ferrarifl

[FerrariF60]

Hope to hear it again later on :-)

wouldn't that be amazing Stefa as a good birthday present for you???

again, Happy Birthday Mate....and let's hope we'd have something to cheer for at the end of the LAST lap of this reace

CHEERS and Forza FERRARI

[Rishu]

All the best Ferrari

[Kyss4k]

Ok, let's see what today holds for us. :ferrarifl

[Ed Harley]

Thumbs up!

[Scuderia85]

go go

[stefa]

wouldn't that be amazing Stefa as a good birthday present for you???

again, Happy Birthday Mate....and let's hope we'd have something to cheer for at the end of the LAST lap of this reace

CHEERS and Forza FERRARI

Yes! That would be awesome!

Thank you

[elnano98]

Clean start

[stefa]

Clean start

but not so good

[elnano98]

P7 and P9 not bad

[Katu]

hamilton had a bad start, that's good enough for me

[elnano98]

We are slow

[FerrariF60]

We are slow

yup, but it is NO NEWS really...we all knew that

[F1Jan]

uneventful for Ferrari except for FA start

[F1Jan]

Whoops for Rosberg

[elnano98]

Even Mclaren and Red Bull are faster than us

[FerrariF60]

Even Mclaren and Red Bull are faster than us

well in all fairness, the Mclosers have the MERC engine so that is a no brainer, but the RED FOOLS.....what's up with that?? i thought they had a crappy engine like OURS, well obviously not from the looks of it

[vasveras]

why are we so damn slow ????? is it strategy ?

[stefa]

why are we so damn slow ????? is it strategy ?

??!?!? What strategy?! It is PU!

[FerrariF60]

??!?!? What strategy?! It is PU!

indeed, our power unit simply SUCKS....no other nicer way to put it

bring on 2015 and hopefully we'll be closer to the Mercs

[Alesi1]

Where did that come from 29.98 Alonso?

[stefa]

So painful... VB fly past FA with open DRS

[vasveras]

omg, Both Williams in front. Let's start betting what place we will finish in Constructors Championship ?

[F1Jan]

Not looking good - :-s Watching the interview with FA today not sure we will keep him unless we really pull our fingers out and get a car :furious

[FerrariF60]

omg, Both Williams in front. Let's start betting what place we will finish in Constructors Championship ?

behind them of course....

[F1Jan]

behind them of course.... Agree just when I think it cannot get any worse - it does - what happened to the glory days

[stefa]

Agree just when I think it cannot get any worse - it does - what happened to the glory days

They've gone...

[stefa]

Not looking good - :-s Watching the interview with FA today not sure we will keep him unless we really pull our fingers out and get a car :furious

What he said?

[FerrariF60]

Agree just when I think it cannot get any worse - it does - what happened to the glory days

they're gone mate...but the team is working in bringing it back...we\ll see what happens next year

[stefa]

don't think both cars can finish into points today....

[FerrariF60]

don't think both cars can finish into points today....

not from the looks of it....mind as well retire both cars and save teh engine....ha, ha...not funny at all, just saying

[20000rpm]

The Power Deficit.... Ouch!

[Kyss4k]

Ok... this is not watchable

[vasveras]

are we evern going to finish in top 10 ????? I think our only chance is to try 2 stop strategy ,

[elnano98]

And now Kimi is faster than Alo

[stefa]

KR is 0.8 sec faster than FA

[F1Jan]

they're gone mate...but the team is working in bringing it back...we\ll see what happens next year

I so hope so, I miss the excitement

[FerrariF60]

are we evern going to finish in top 10 ????? I think our only chance is to try 2 stop strategy ,

it wont' work....we dont' have the pace or POWER to do that

[Kyss4k]

Does Alonso have some problem?

[Scuderia85]

no pace at all

[bondilad]

So we haven't overtaken anybody today !! And ALO can't keep up with the cars ahead....or he's saving tires??

[F1Jan]

So we haven't overtaken anybody today !! And ALO can't keep up with the cars ahead....or he's saving tires??

No just no pace whats the point of watching it is painful

[FerrariF60]

So we haven't overtaken anybody today !! And ALO can't keep up with the cars ahead....or he's saving tires??

none of teh above....when you have a MULE for power house instead of a STALLION, there is NOT much even for the BEST drive on the grid can do

[radosav]

If we were given whole lap advantage we still wouldn't win !

[Kyss4k]

Alonso has to have technical issue... he is slowest car on track.

[stefa]

:-(

[F1Jan]

Oh no got even worse FA out

[vasveras]

ooo great :(((((((((((((

[Rishu]

Dear lord

[Red is Best]

Nice staged overtaking here by Mercedes.
Alonso...

[Kyss4k]

Fast and reliable. Ferrari

[F1Jan]

Well folks I am off now sadly the gardening seems more attractive today.

[stefa]

Not birthday present what I was expecting

[FerrariF60]

looks like the crappy MULE of an engine we've got....NOT only sucks on horse power, or should i say mule power.....it's not even RELIABLE either.....lol

[wacc]

Oh, no, just few days after reading about Ferrari's reliability...

[elnano98]

The worst race ever

[stefa]

this ended FA run of consecutive race finish into points

[tifosi1993]

Hope today's race will teach them some lessons, "Less Talk, More Work"

[Greig]

looks like the crappy MULE of an engine we've got....NOT only sucks on horse power, or should i say mule power.....it's not even RELIABLE either.....lol

Looked like gearbox, but really 1 problem and your ranting?

[FerrariF60]

Fast and reliable. Ferrari

let me FIX that for ya....super slow and unreliably TIME BOMB.....lol

[Greig]

1st DNF for Alonso since Malaysia 2013 (which was not even engine related) and we have a timebomb? LOL

[FerrariF60]

Looked like gearbox, but really 1 problem and your ranting?

unofficially said it was water pump....still suck for not finishing, even though we had NO chance with him getting into points...TOO SLOW of a car to do anything special

[wacc]

Come on guys. A week ago we all were talking about how Monza would be difficult for us and now it is happening just that. Next races will be better.

[20000rpm]

On a side note, Bottas.. IMPRESSIVE!!

[FerrariF60]

so from looks of it, Hamster will win it, rosberg second....no NEWS there...those merc's are SUPER FAST....

Kimi sleeping again under braking and Ricciardo takes teh spot....maybe we should get HIM to drive that second ferrari next year

[tifosi1993]

Lets hope Raikkonen keeps his P10.

[FerrariF60]

Come on guys. A week ago we all were talking about how Monza would be difficult for us and now it is happening just that. Next races will be better.

let's hope so, cause this is utterly dissapointing

[FerrariF60]

On a side note, Bottas.. IMPRESSIVE!!

yup, both him and Ricciardo

[stefa]

On a side note, Bottas.. IMPRESSIVE!!

Absolutely! Williams has confirmed both FM and VB for 2015

[bondilad]

Now I only hope kimi finishes in points...... sky said our points finish is 79 consecutive races. Atleast we should be proud of that.

[Kyss4k]

What Bottas... Massa for podium!

[stefa]

Lets hope Raikkonen keeps his P10.

Judging by the lap times it seems he will not

[Nova]

Slamming the team or the drivers is not going to change anything, or make it better.
We simply blew it. Monza is the pinnacle to me. Yes, this is painful you bet.

[Greig]

Bottas in the 2nd fastest car passing on the straight really is not all that impressive?

[stefa]

Now I only hope kimi finishes in points...... sky said our points finish is 79 consecutive races. Atleast we should be proud of that.

And what will you say if I say to you that Ferrari has won at least one race in each season since 1994? And now we have THIS in 2014!

[20000rpm]

This season is officially over for me. I really hope LDm, MM, and Allison would talk less and work more.

[Greig]

And what will you say if I say to you that Ferrari has won at least one race in each season since 1994? And now we have THIS in 2014!

You count Indy 2005 as a win? LOL

But anyway a nice little stat isn't it but means very little.

[stefa]

Bottas in the 2nd fastest car passing on the straight really is not all that impressive?

but this is not the 1st race where he showed his skills

[Rob]

Bottas in the 2nd fastest car passing on the straight really is not all that impressive?

with DRS, overtaking is so fake and not what it used to be. :furious

[wacc]

Nice battle Perez Button

[stefa]

You count Indy 2005 as a win? LOL

But anyway a nice little stat isn't it but means very little.

Not just me. You can check it on fia.com, formula1.com,.... They all do!

[Greig]

Not just me. You can check it on fia.com, formula1.com,.... They all do!

LOL I am sure they do, anyone with any sense would realise it was a bit fake.

Winning one race every season really is not a major benchmark anyway.

[Rob]

but this is not the 1st race we he showed his skills

no, but look at Perez couple years ago, he/Sauber went different tyre strategy, picked up podiums, everyone thought he good, but when he went to Mclaren, with different tyres, he wasnt so "impressive"

[Alessandra]

Where's Ricc. Gonna finish? Brilliant driving!

[jocaranz]

This is home race man. We should be at the top 5 or top 10 or worst just finish the race. For years we are always disappointed. Now if ur going to question if we have the right to rant. Hell YEAH!

[vasveras]

Bottas and Riciardo, are AMAZING :) well done

[stefa]

no, but look at Perez couple years ago, he/Sauber went different tyre strategy, picked up podiums, everyone thought he good, but when he went to Mclaren, with different tyres, he wasnt so "impressive"

For the time being he is good. We will judge more about him when he goes to some other team

[Rishu]

Fantastic driving from Ricciardo

[wacc]

Fernando got penalty in Silverstone for something similar to what Perez did.
Ricciardo is also impressive.

[Greig]

This is home race man. We should be at the top 5 or top 10 or worst just finish the race. For years we are always disappointed. Now if ur going to question if we have the right to rant. Hell YEAH!

How can you be disappointed, it's not like you had plenty of warning we are not quick enough this season. Surely you need to be a little bit more realistic.

[stefa]

LOL I am sure they do, anyone with any sense would realise it was a bit fake.

Winning one race every season really is not a major benchmark anyway.

It was kinda strange with just 6 cars. But it was not Ferrari problem :-)

[Kyss4k]

Wow, Kimi has to be worried about even Torro Rosso. Just, NO!

[tifosi1993]

Great racing between Button & Perez

[Aussie]

Lets go dan

[stefa]

ain't that strange to have DR as a fastest car?!?

[Rishu]

C'mon Dan, you can get Seb. :D

[Mimo966]

Now that we nowhere are in the track sadly, i am with Daniel. GoGo!

[Red is Best]

Renault has come a long way since the beginning of the season.

[radosav]

Daniel could be new Fernando!

[wacc]

Ricciardo will get Vettel

[wacc]

ain't that strange to have DR as a fastest car?!?

Vergne was faster, now he is stuck behind Hulk.

[stefa]

Ricciardo will get Vettel

easly

[Alessandra]

Ha! "Let's get him' Ricc's engineer as he approaches Vettel

[stefa]

Vergne was faster, now he is stuck behind Hulk.

not fast lap, I meant fastest speed trap!

[vasveras]

I love this Australian Guy

[FranksterGM]

Come on Vettel, punt Riccyardo off the track.

[radosav]

Go go go Daniel!

[Aussie]

Haha go dan what a good move

[Uzair Ahmed]

Wish daniel could win this season..would be a slap on vettels face

[Greig]

ERS failure for Alonso.

[stefa]

good thing is that there are just 3 more laps, so KR will keep his place

[stefa]

how come MAG was not into pit to serve penalty?

[FerrariF60]

so kimi is 60 plus seconds behind the leader....this is JUST SAD, SAD....

[wacc]

Lucky Kimi.

[stefa]

that was close!

[wacc]

how come MAG was not into pit to serve penalty?

It will be added to his time after the finish.

[Alessandra]

Felipe 3rd!!!

[stefa]

It will be added to his time after the finish.

But that is not fair. He had plenty of time to go and take his penalty!

[FerrariF60]

Felipe 3rd!!!

AT LEAST one good thing came out of this race

[Greig]

But that is not fair. He had plenty of time to go and take his penalty!

It is fair if he does not stop again otherwise it's a 25 second penalty to go to the pits for no reason.

[stefa]

It is fair if he does not stop again otherwise it's a 25 second penalty to go to the pits for no reason.

So, he will get 5 or 25 sec on his time?

[wacc]

But that is not fair. He had plenty of time to go and take his penalty!

It is actually fair. That penalty is meant to be 5 seconds. Not more not less. It is something different than the previous drive through and 10s. stop and go penalty.

[stefa]

I don't think McLaren can over take Ferrari in CWC.

[elnano98]

Magnussen didn't take penalty and just be added 5s to his time????

[stefa]

It is actually fair. That penalty is meant to be 5 seconds. Not more not less. It is something different than the previous drive through and 10s. stop and go penalty.

Than for clarification reason, they should call it 5 sec penalty on end race time, not 5 sec stop and go!

[Hornet]

Congratulations to Massa on this podium. :champ

What a miserable race for us though. P10 and a DNF :-(

I really hope things will be better in Singapore, a more normal track

[bondilad]

Now that the tough races are out of the way.... We need to get back our third place from williams.

[Kingdom Hearts]

Never expected this awful race for us, 2 points, lol

[stefa]

Now that the tough races are out of the way.... We need to get back our third place from williams.

That will be hard job to do, not impossible, but very hard!

[FerrariF60]

Than for clarification reason, they should call it 5 sec penalty on end race time, not 5 sec stop and go!

IF there was a need for another pit stop, then he would have served that penalty of 5 seconds extra in the BOX at his pit stop; but since this was a ONE STOPPER strategy, they added the 5 seconds to his final race time

[Alesi1]

We're lucky with the generous points system, IMO 10th should get nothing, top 6 like old days.

[Rob]

Kimi will move to P9 as KMag, will drop to P10.

[Alessandra]

Well done Felipe.:-)

As for the rest, really can't be happy with it:-s Kimi did the best he could do.
Driver of the race for me - Ricciardo for pure entertainment value - again.
Over and out:wave

[Hornet]

Amazing crowd at Monza as usual.

[Aussie]

Awesome crowd

[fratelliferrari]

Very tough race for us sadly :-s Iam really feeling sorry for Fernando! Only positive thing today is Felipe on the podium :-D

[LivingHitokiri]

Disappointing race.
Our PU is so damn weak that make us look like a backmarker trying to score some points.
This is sad, really sad.

[hogo]

Missed the race, missed yet another Merc show. RedBull is doing good job fighting those overpowered PUs. Us? Weekend to forget.

[Red_Diamond]

Very tough race for us sadly :-s Iam really feeling sorry for Fernando! Only positive thing today is Felipe on the podium :-D

how is Massa finishing on the podium positive for Ferrari? We're now down to 4th in the Constructors.

[Ferrari Rules]

This is bad, really bad. Roll on 2015

[Alesi1]

How bad is our engine kyvat woud have got Kimi in the end without issues and he started in21st. So where is our engine? I think worst of the 3

[Greig]

Than for clarification reason, they should call it 5 sec penalty on end race time, not 5 sec stop and go!

If he stopped then it would be 5 second stop go, if not then they add 5 seconds at the end.

[Hornet]

IIRC, we've had several electrical issues this season. I guess it finally broke. I hope this is something we can solve before the season with reliability changes to the PU, as we have the performance to sort out come next year.

[fratelliferrari]

how is Massa finishing on the podium positive for Ferrari? We're now down to 4th in the Constructors.

For me personally positive! Iam a fan of Felipe since he joined us in 2006 and in my eyes he deserved a podium after all the bad luck he has had this season! He's a great guy!

[FerrariF60]

This is bad, really bad. Roll on 2015

yeah, hopefully with the allowed parts to change for 2015 in the engine and Power Unit as a whole, we'll be a lot closer in terms or RAW horse power compared to the Mercs and hopefully WAY better then renault....because this just HURTS to watch races this year with a CRIPPLED ferrari trying to to ROUND AND ROUND...

and for the remainder of the year let's hope that we'll do a bit better at the remaining races...

[LivingHitokiri]

I always tell myself to never convert Fridays into something but i always get fooled by the glimpse of hope.
Im starting to feel like i've felt during 2005 season, depressing.

[Nova]

Im happy to see Felipe on the podium! Better to see him than Ham or Rosberg.
Good for Felipe. Where Ferrari is in the WCC is their own doing..or not doing good enough.
One thing this race showed me..Without Ferrari, F1 is simply another boring race series.
Just what I wanted to see, a merc processional race. No excitement, no overtaking..this is what the
almighty Formula 1 is reduced to...NBC sometimes shows the F2 race, it will be better racing than this.
Who really wants to drive for us when we are this bad, n believe me, we are at a low point I havent seen the
likes of in many, many years.

[ARUN M KARUNAN]

no words.one day sky will be ours

[Alesi1]

When did we last only score a tenth place at th Italian? . I can't remember such a poor showing ever since I've been watching (early nineties) ? 1992 ?. No points then, but top 3 in qualy. Boy we really are in a bad state. 95 no points but unlucky with cameras destroying our cars.

[Senna4Ever]

Amazing crowd
Poor start by Fernando which is unusual.
Amazing poor performance of our car .. just a shame ... such a shame
Beaten by Renault too, a horror scenario

Others: just only have to smile as Vettel once again out performed by Ric. And whining Dr. Marko also some clown of it's own class

[wacc]

When did we last only score a tenth place at th Italian? . I can't remember such a poor showing ever since I've been watching (early nineties) ? 1992 ?. No points then, but top 3 in qualy. Boy we really are in a bad state. 95 no points but unlucky with cameras destroying our cars.

2005

[Kyss4k]

We are falling down the order... both WDC and WCC.

[Kingdom Hearts]

Poor start by Fernando which is unusual.


It was a good start but he has nowhere to go, in my opinion at least.

[AfterLife]

The result didn't show our true pace. We were better than what we got today. ERS failure in Fernando Alonso's car didn't help either but Very exciting race. Daniel Ricciardo was superb. Sergio Perez was superb too. The next circuits will suit us better. We need 3rd in constructors championship.

[Senna4Ever]

It was a good start but he has nowhere to go, in my opinion at least.

IMHO At least where Vettel was coming from

[Hornet]

Not related to today's race, but Sky was discussing this moments ago. Might affect us if true, as I think Luca did wanted a 3rd car

@adam_s_parr · 23m
This is the last year of F1 as we know it. In 2015 eight teams will contest the championship, with several teams entering three cars.

[Rob]

yeah, hopefully with the allowed parts to change for 2015 in the engine and Power Unit as a whole, we'll be a lot closer in terms or RAW horse power compared to the Mercs and hopefully WAY better then renault....because this just HURTS to watch races this year with a CRIPPLED ferrari trying to to ROUND AND ROUND...

and for the remainder of the year let's hope that we'll do a bit better at the remaining races...

i heard yesterday, that there is things rolling behind the scenes to relax the engine rules to close the performance gap. Even Merc is saying for it too to relaxed alot more.

[Suzie]

Went upstairs for literally seconds and when I came back down, Nando was out. Couldn't believe it as it's such a rare sight.

Really happy about Felipe (for HIM, before anyone moans at me about it meaning Williams has jumped Ferrari in the WCC) - I love that he got the biggest cheer from the tifosi and that they were chanting his name. He seemed very emotional when speaking Italian to them. He said in the PC that Ferrari were always in his heart :-)

[Samcar222]

Tough day for us, great Monza atmosphere as always. However, we need to start thinking about future grid penalties due to component failure and replacement. Thoughts?

[Alonsomaniac]

Congrats to Felipe. Well deserved.

For the rest of this raceday..............:-(

[F2008]

Obviously Monza was always going to be difficult for Ferrari with their current form. Good to see Felipe returning to the podium. I was also impressed by Ricciardo and annoyed with Magnussen's driving behaviour. Shame he didn't receive a drive-through or a real stop-and-go penalty.

[wisepie]

Well done Felipe for saving my race, the reception he got on the podium and what he said was pure emotion....so he was in a Williams but what the hell, I really feel for Fernando and Kimi who tried but were never in the hunt realistically. What a sad day for us tifosi but we will rise again one day and we'll forget this one as soon as possible. Rocciardo/Bottas and Perez at least performed superbly to distract us from the inevitable truth. As for the Merc two, my thoughts are unrpintable.:-s

[Ste]

Went upstairs for literally seconds and when I came back down, Nando was out. Couldn't believe it as it's such a rare sight.

Really happy about Felipe (for HIM, before anyone moans at me about it meaning Williams has jumped Ferrari in the WCC) - I love that he got the biggest cheer from the tifosi and that they were chanting his name. He seemed very emotional when speaking Italian to them. He said in the PC that Ferrari were always in his heart :-)
Everyone went nuts for Felipe! A guy behind me was screaming: "Grande Felipe, bravo, bravo Felipe", for the entire podium celebrations. Atmosphere was incredible below the podium,particularly when Felipe came to the railings. :thumb

[Lesky]

Everyone went nuts for Felipe! A guy behind me was screaming: "Grande Felipe, bravo, bravo Felipe", for the entire podium celebrations. Atmosphere was incredible below the podium,particularly when Felipe came to the railings. :thumb

Thanks for the report, very nice to hear :-)

[Giallo 550]

Such a disappointing race, but I'm really happy for Felipe.

[tifosi1993]

Such a disappointing race, but I'm really happy for Felipe.

Me too. It was great to see the fans reception for him.

[tifosi1993]

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[Kyss4k]

Really happy for Felipe. I would love to see him win a race at least one more time.

[AfterLife]

Monza trophies were ugly this time. I think Monza mangers changed trophies when they saw there is no possibility for a Ferrari driver to be on the podium :))

[Suzie]

Everyone went nuts for Felipe! A guy behind me was screaming: "Grande Felipe, bravo, bravo Felipe", for the entire podium celebrations. Atmosphere was incredible below the podium,particularly when Felipe came to the railings. :thumb

Ah brilliant :-) It makes me really, really happy that the tifosi still love him.

[mirafiori]

I was very fortunate to be at the race today, it was very sad to see the two ferraris clearly off the pace. I know it was to be expected but nevertheless it was a shame to see us struggling. Next year we will have to be a lot better.

[doublesixes]

With 2015 rapidly approaching and regulations basically the same as 2014, what hopes do we have to be competitive? I think we're in big trouble for the foreseeable future. Thoughts?

[Greig]

With 2015 rapidly approaching and regulations basically the same as 2014, what hopes do we have to be competitive? I think we're in big trouble for the foreseeable future. Thoughts?

Well assuming we know where we have gone wrong then the regs being much the same will be a help rather than hindrance.

[ManFromMilan]

Very bad day for a Ferrari fan, but i have to say i was very glad to see Felipe on the podium and to hear the crowd reaction to him being there.

As for the trophies, they do look very cheap and like they are made of plastic.:roll

[stefa]

As my 41st birthday was on Saturday, and we all know how the qualification went, I knew, but still hoped, that I'll get something on Sunday as for birthday gift. Todays showing was not the present I wished for :-(
Next years race at Monza is actually on my birthday day, 6th of September, so maybe I'll be more luckier on 42nd birthday :-)

[racingbradley]

Everyone went nuts for Felipe! A guy behind me was screaming: "Grande Felipe, bravo, bravo Felipe", for the entire podium celebrations. Atmosphere was incredible below the podium,particularly when Felipe came to the railings. :thumb

Thanks for that report Ste. It was good to see that he is still popular with the tifosi :-D

[DIEK]

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[Winter]

Amazing crowd
Poor start by Fernando which is unusual.
Amazing poor performance of our car .. just a shame ... such a shame
Beaten by Renault too, a horror scenario

Others: just only have to smile as Vettel once again out performed by Ric. And whining Dr. Marko also some clown of it's own class

Amazing crowd? I heard booing during interview, not so amazing...

[Lebaronrouge]

A surprising element : The speed trap. How Ricciardo manages to be so fast compared to his own teammate ?!
http://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/championship/event_report/documents/speedtrap.pdf

I have my idea but I really would like to know what do you think

[radosav]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLg_qz3uAts&feature=youtube_gdata_playerthis guy is very pleasant

[Kyss4k]

A surprising element : The speed trap. How Ricciardo manages to be so fast compared to is own teammate ?!
http://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/championship/event_report/documents/speedtrap.pdf

I have my idea but I really would like to know what do you think

What puzzles me is, how were we slower at the speed trap in the race compared to quali?

[Lebaronrouge]

For all those questions, i think we and Vettel have to take care about our PU. Vettel, Raikkonen, Alonso had began with their 5th engine (ICE) instead of their 4th for all Mercedes drivers and Ricciardo

[Infi24r]

Really poor race for us. I get the feeling Williams now have the faster car and also the points advantage. I think 3rd in the championship will be very very hard.

[doublesixes]

Well assuming we know where we have gone wrong then the regs being much the same will be a help rather than hindrance.

True, but the word out there points to a PU lacking mid-range and top end. Perhaps extra efforts should go in that direction.

[ALO]

I think RIC drives a lot like ALO I really like that guy might need to change my alias when he joins ferrari. ..lol

[Stormsearcher]

Does anybody else feel that this race was rigged between the merc boys?

The first time NR made a mistake, was in actual a preparation for the second one. I thought it was badly done too. Why cant they simple give an order and let it be that. Instead of making it look like NR made a mistake.

[Stormsearcher]

Really poor race for us. I get the feeling Williams now have the faster car and also the points advantage. I think 3rd in the championship will be very very hard.

Its race specific. Yes williams have a good package, but it doesnt work like this everywhere. So we still have a good shot at third. :-)

[vcs316]

Does anybody else feel that this race was rigged between the merc boys?

The first time NR made a mistake, was in actual a preparation for the second one. I thought it was badly done too. Why cant they simple give an order and let it be that. Instead of making it look like NR made a mistake.

I thought so too!! Maybe its punishment for Spa :Hmm

[stefa]

Well assuming we know where we have gone wrong then the regs being much the same will be a help rather than hindrance.

Isn't it obvious?! Ferrari PU is well underpowered compared to Mercedes PU!

[Nick Singer]

Does anybody else feel that this race was rigged between the merc boys?

The first time NR made a mistake, was in actual a preparation for the second one. I thought it was badly done too. Why cant they simple give an order and let it be that. Instead of making it look like NR made a mistake.

I think so too.. 'Penalty' for the last incident. All square now!

[ManFromMilan]

Does anybody else feel that this race was rigged between the merc boys?

The first time NR made a mistake, was in actual a preparation for the second one. I thought it was badly done too. Why cant they simple give an order and let it be that. Instead of making it look like NR made a mistake.



There is always a chance, i found it strange that Toto would smile so contently when his lead driver made such a mistake.

[Rishu]

There is always a chance, i found it strange that Toto would smile so contently when his lead driver made such a mistake.

Yeah I saw that too, made no sense at that moment.

[shamim179]

Yeah I saw that too, made no sense at that moment.

That smile wasn't live. It was an earlier recording. Media is just trying to stir trouble unless Toto is lying.

[Infi24r]

I think RIC drives a lot like ALO I really like that guy might need to change my alias when he joins ferrari. ..lol

RIC is like the only Red Bull driver now. It never even feels like Vettel is challenging.

[ManFromMilan]

unless Toto is lying.



That is what i'm wondring, how trustworthy is Mr Schwarzenegger and co.?

[chris.gotfunk]

Does anybody else feel that this race was rigged between the merc boys?

The first time NR made a mistake, was in actual a preparation for the second one. I thought it was badly done too. Why cant they simple give an order and let it be that. Instead of making it look like NR made a mistake.

I said this in another thread, but I want to add my .02 here too.

Guys and gals... As much as I would like to believe this insanity is happening with Merc, I don't believe it. If you recall, during the race as Hamilton was closing in on Nico, he came on the radio and emphatically told his engineer to stop telling him the gaps. I truly believe that Nico is having a tough time handling the pressure. Think of Hamilton's first two seasons in F1... Missed being a WDC his rookie season by a point or so and then won it the final year by a point or so. He's had way more experience in high pressure situations whereas Nico has not. If you recall China in Hamilton's first season when he beached the car on the entry to the pits... very similar kind of mistake akin to the one Nico made Sunday. Of course, just my .02...

[Stormsearcher]

I think so too.. 'Penalty' for the last incident. All square now!

yup. It could be this they were referring to when they said NR has been punished.

Frankly i dont want either to be the champion. Prefer if some miracle happens and Danny takes it. :-P

[Stormsearcher]

There is always a chance, i found it strange that Toto would smile so contently when his lead driver made such a mistake.

Exactly. That was strange. No matter the reason, no team member would smile at a mistake by one of the teams drivers.

[Stormsearcher]

I said this in another thread, but I want to add my .02 here too.

Guys and gals... As much as I would like to believe this insanity is happening with Merc, I don't believe it. If you recall, during the race as Hamilton was closing in on Nico, he came on the radio and emphatically told his engineer to stop telling him the gaps. I truly believe that Nico is having a tough time handling the pressure. Think of Hamilton's first two seasons in F1... Missed being a WDC his rookie season by a point or so and then won it the final year by a point or so. He's had way more experience in high pressure situations whereas Nico has not. If you recall China in Hamilton's first season when he beached the car on the entry to the pits... very similar kind of mistake akin to the one Nico made Sunday. Of course, just my .02...

Well there is as much chance that it was not rigged at all, but i cant believe NR is so inexperienced that he cant handle pressure. Hes been in F1 for almost 5 yrs now. This looked like a rookie error.

[DIEK]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZpnT66d4So

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxBs_WQIYAAOTPW.jpg

[DIEK]

http://i.imgur.com/u035Jwi.jpg

"FIA Under investigation" :rotfl

[Rishu]

Hahahaha

[20000rpm]

As usual, good one Diek

[Hornet]

That was a creative one :lol

[fratelliferrari]

:lol

[DIEK]

As usual, good one Diek


That was a creative one :lol


:lol

;-)


FIA says: "No further action" :haha: