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Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:12
We have fresh softs to close the race. Others don't
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Katu
21st September 2014, 14:13
Why Marussia is behind hamster yet
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they haven't been given premission to unlap themselves
mirafiori
21st September 2014, 14:13
WE could win this, come on Alonso.
tifosi1993
21st September 2014, 14:13
This is taking too long...
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:14
they haven't been given premission to unlap themselves
Okay ;-) done now
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mizf1
21st September 2014, 14:14
This is taking too long...
This is good for alonso
mizf1
21st September 2014, 14:14
Did alonso put a brand new set on?
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:15
Yes
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wacc
21st September 2014, 14:15
Hamilton on 11 laps old supersofts.
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:15
One more lap and free to fight
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mizf1
21st September 2014, 14:15
Dnt forget the 2 hour limit so we may not hit full laps
Katu
21st September 2014, 14:16
i think that win isn't that impossible today
mizf1
21st September 2014, 14:16
Hamilton on 11 laps old supersofts.
So if he pits now he will be about 28 secs behind Alonso with traffic and tyres which are almost identical to alonso
Haris
21st September 2014, 14:17
I'm betting Ricciardo won't do another pitstop.
mizf1
21st September 2014, 14:17
lets eeek out another 2 more laps behind SC
elnano98
21st September 2014, 14:17
Only 45 minutes left
mizf1
21st September 2014, 14:18
I'm betting Ricciardo won't do another pitstop.
He is going to have some realy worn tyres at the end, it touch and go with Alonso who has fresher tyres
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:19
[Q UOTE=Haris;858473]I'm betting Ricciardo won't do another pitstop.[/QUOTE]
Possible, but whorst the idea
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hakanabi
21st September 2014, 14:19
What's the point of keep coming back here. Always a safety and such a boring race as usual
Kyss4k
21st September 2014, 14:19
If the SC will be out any longer, Probably even the Red Bulls will be able to make it to the end...
mizf1
21st September 2014, 14:19
Get ready
stefa
21st September 2014, 14:20
24 laps
mizf1
21st September 2014, 14:20
We need to jump RB
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:21
ALO;BUT;RAI best tyres now
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stefa
21st September 2014, 14:21
We need to jump RB
ASAP!!!
stefa
21st September 2014, 14:22
FA is far away from RB
Kyss4k
21st September 2014, 14:22
Alonso can't keep up with Bulls on those tyres.
FerrariF60
21st September 2014, 14:22
alos is dropping from ricchiardo...what's with taht???
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:22
Alonso is acting like fox
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Katu
21st September 2014, 14:22
Fernando is saving tyres and there probably be some 57 laps or so
mizf1
21st September 2014, 14:23
Alonso slow tyre warm up
FerrariF60
21st September 2014, 14:23
Fernando is saving tyres and there probably be some 57 laps or so
i think so too
stefa
21st September 2014, 14:24
SC was bad for us
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:24
RBR will loose traction with degrad. While Alonso needs to put temperature on tyres
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Kyss4k
21st September 2014, 14:25
1 sec per lap slower. Oh dear.
mizf1
21st September 2014, 14:25
We slow on this tyre
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:25
Mind that hamster need a pit
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FerrariF60
21st September 2014, 14:25
SC was bad for us
yup....totally ruined our race
mizf1
21st September 2014, 14:26
LH pulled out almost 10 secs in 2 laps,
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:26
Mind that hamster need a pit
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And RBR are confident with that
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Red is Best
21st September 2014, 14:27
Damn...
FerrariF60
21st September 2014, 14:27
LH pulled out almost 10 secs in 2 laps,
yeah, that MERC is from another world
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:27
Finger think not be able to go till end
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sachin
21st September 2014, 14:27
The Mercs speed is a horror story for all
mizf1
21st September 2014, 14:27
RB told VEt tey going to the end
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:27
yeah, that MERC is from another world
If they must pit is normal
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Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:28
Mercs Engineers say BRB will degrad
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FerrariF60
21st September 2014, 14:29
If they must pit is normal
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that merc will win no matter if he pits even two more times....taht merc is FAST!!!!!!!!!!!!
mizf1
21st September 2014, 14:29
Lets hope RIC tries a pas on VET and they tangle while Alonso goes past
sachin
21st September 2014, 14:29
Why the hell do crofty and brundle keep crying until Lewis wins....
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:30
Is worried hamster
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Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:31
Lets hope RIC tries a pas on VET and they tangle while Alonso goes past
Superb
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Katu
21st September 2014, 14:31
7 laps, i wouldn't think SC if i was Hamilton, i would think these tyres will explode
stefa
21st September 2014, 14:31
This one goes to LH!
Ed Harley
21st September 2014, 14:31
Lets hope RIC tries a pas on VET and they tangle while Alonso goes past
And what misfortune do you wish for Hamilton?
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:32
The key for this race is what RBR do
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Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:33
This one goes to LH!
Long way to the end. No one is sure about, not even hamster
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F1Jan
21st September 2014, 14:33
Ha ha Without a drink I am dying here
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:34
Loool, they probably die without water
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F1Jan
21st September 2014, 14:34
This one goes to LH!
Not yet it isn't over yet
stefa
21st September 2014, 14:34
Long way to the end. No one is sure about, not even hamster
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I am putting my money on him
mizf1
21st September 2014, 14:34
And what misfortune do you wish for Hamilton?
Slow stop, possibly stuck wheel nut:-D
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:35
Alonso like fox, Waiting
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mizf1
21st September 2014, 14:35
c'mon Alonso, close up on RIC and take him for that podium
F1Jan
21st September 2014, 14:35
Loool, they probably die without water
Yes it is serious but here we all are working out strategy, tires, SC etc and his main concern is water having said that they have just said a driver could faint - serious:-??
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vcs316
21st September 2014, 14:35
What is ALO waiting for? He needs to start attacking!!!
sachin
21st September 2014, 14:35
Its obvious lewis will win.
:/
F1Jan
21st September 2014, 14:35
Come on FA I am getting excited can I smell a podium
Ed Harley
21st September 2014, 14:36
Slow stop, possibly stuck wheel nut:-D
Some sporting spirit.
Kyss4k
21st September 2014, 14:36
2 more laps and Ham has 1 stop advantage.
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:36
Seebold is so HOT
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stefa
21st September 2014, 14:37
2 more laps and Ham has 1 stop advantage.
he made 17 sec in just 9 laps!?!?!?!?!
sachin
21st September 2014, 14:37
Wth is brundle is tensed for..whether Lewis is lapping 2sec faster than everyone else ehh?
y racing
stefa
21st September 2014, 14:37
Yellow tires are not suiting FA....
F1Jan
21st September 2014, 14:38
he made 17 sec in just 9 laps!?!?!?!?!
PB for Hamster - tires could still be a problem though we know he is tough on his driving - maybe I am hoping !!!!!
Greig
21st September 2014, 14:38
2 more laps and Ham has 1 stop advantage.
Erm no
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:38
Hamster will be between RBR after pit???
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AfterLife
21st September 2014, 14:38
Ricciardo is Vettels rear gunner this time
AfterLife
21st September 2014, 14:39
Alonso needs to overtake honey badger asap.
Kyss4k
21st September 2014, 14:39
Erm no
Comparing to Alonso...
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:39
FOX is at the corner
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sachin
21st September 2014, 14:39
Really tired of this biased commentary.
:-(
stefa
21st September 2014, 14:40
Hamster will be between RBR after pit???
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Not necessary. Even if he is he will have new ones and he will fly by them!
mizf1
21st September 2014, 14:40
RIC has problems but not sure what
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:40
Plenty laps to surprise is guys
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F1Jan
21st September 2014, 14:40
3rd maybe
stefa
21st September 2014, 14:41
FA is 29 sec behind LH......
VSI
21st September 2014, 14:41
Alonso needs to overtake honey badger asap.
Honey Badger -:-D
vcs316
21st September 2014, 14:42
A win looks difficult.. It will be Vettel who takes the win this time around.. Looks like we would settle for P3..
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:42
Calm down hamster is believing in faith
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stefa
21st September 2014, 14:43
A win looks difficult.. It will be Vettel who takes the win this time around.. Looks like we would settle for P3..
Win?!?!?? It is LH who will take it!
FerrariF60
21st September 2014, 14:43
what's kimi doing?? looks like he's stuck with 8th until the end
mizf1
21st September 2014, 14:43
LH will have fresh tyres at the end, with the pace of the Merc on fresh tyres its ominous
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:43
KVYAT NEED WATER FAST
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Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:44
Bottas is so fast in straight say BUT
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Kyss4k
21st September 2014, 14:44
No way Alonso can overtake... from 2nd to 4th. After all our strategy was not so good.
F1Jan
21st September 2014, 14:44
All to play for a little exciting
shamim179
21st September 2014, 14:45
Mercedes are trying to cover Alonso by pulling in a large enough gap so when Hamilton pits he comes out ahead of Alonso. Even if Hamilton is behind the red bulls at that stage they will be sitting ducks.
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:45
Tyres going off for hamster
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Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:46
Traffic traffic
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Greig
21st September 2014, 14:46
No way Alonso can overtake... from 2nd to 4th. After all our strategy was not so good.
Better than stopping another time though. Strategy can't overcome the car is not very good.
sachin
21st September 2014, 14:46
Win?!?!?? It is LH who will take it!
Thats optimism for you mate ;)
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:47
Surprise till end
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Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:47
Dramatic finish i believe
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mizf1
21st September 2014, 14:47
Vetels tyres going off, Alonso needs to be a fox now
stefa
21st September 2014, 14:48
Thats optimism for you mate ;)
not optimism, bu realism!
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:48
For Jamster
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F1Jan
21st September 2014, 14:48
Lewis in panic - they may explode the tyres of course - told you it was not over just yet
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:48
28 laps on SS
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Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:49
No way RBR
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Ed Harley
21st September 2014, 14:49
I don't like Hamilton but I have to admit he can use well the equipment he has given by Mercedes.
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:49
6 laps are huge
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F1Jan
21st September 2014, 14:49
Finger man leads
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:50
Alonso, Waiting for what now
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sachin
21st September 2014, 14:50
Come on ric..turn into ham
stefa
21st September 2014, 14:50
I prefer to see LH win this instead of SV
stefa
21st September 2014, 14:50
Alonso, Waiting for what now
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For nothing. Tires are gone
vasveras
21st September 2014, 14:50
Now Alonso has to push like hellll
mizf1
21st September 2014, 14:50
RB sitting duck
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:50
Alonso fresher tyres go now
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Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:51
See ???? Pit!!!??? Or false
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mizf1
21st September 2014, 14:51
RB crew in pit? whats that about
F1Jan
21st September 2014, 14:51
Ham tries to take vettel ham retakes lead
stefa
21st September 2014, 14:51
piece of cake for LH
fratelliferrari
21st September 2014, 14:52
Get Bottas Kimi!
sachin
21st September 2014, 14:52
What was the fuss all about,Lewis can pit again and still come 1st
F1Jan
21st September 2014, 14:53
Can we get 3rd
mizf1
21st September 2014, 14:53
VEt tyres gone, over 1 sec slower
stefa
21st September 2014, 14:53
What was the fuss all about,Lewis can pit again and still come 1st
little bit of drama to make this BORING race alive!
sachin
21st September 2014, 14:54
That radio message from Bottas engineer sums our season
Nand0Nand0
21st September 2014, 14:54
Is it allowed for Hamilton to be told "you are still pulling the gap" ??? I heard his radio tell him that, I thought he is not allowed to be told information about relative performance????
fratelliferrari
21st September 2014, 14:54
Can we get 3rd
I really hope so but it has to be soon!
mizf1
21st September 2014, 14:54
Alonso c'mon, take both of them
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:54
Cmon tyres RBR are weak
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Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:54
4 long laps
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F1Jan
21st September 2014, 14:55
little bit of drama to make this BORING race alive!
:-ZZ
mizf1
21st September 2014, 14:55
alonso within DRS now
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:56
DR is ruine Alo
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mizf1
21st September 2014, 14:56
Alonso is 1 sec faster then Vet but RIC is in the way
ManFromMilan
21st September 2014, 14:57
:-ZZ
:thumb
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 14:57
RAI will overtake Bottas
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F1Jan
21st September 2014, 14:58
Come DR have a go at Finger Man and then both of you can go out for an early shower leaving FA the fox to take the places.
Kyss4k
21st September 2014, 14:58
Our engine power is killing Kimi right now.
sachin
21st September 2014, 14:59
The F14T just cant overtake
Formula E engine in the Formula 1 chassis.
:-(
mizf1
21st September 2014, 15:00
This is tense
F1Jan
21st September 2014, 15:00
Come on Nando push now
Scuderia85
21st September 2014, 15:01
we have no traction
Nand0Nand0
21st September 2014, 15:01
Can someone help me with this question??
Is it allowed for Hamilton to be told "you are still pulling the gap" ??? I heard his radio tell him that, I thought he is not allowed to be told information about relative performance????
stefa
21st September 2014, 15:01
So close.....
F1Jan
21st September 2014, 15:02
So close.....
Painfully close
stefa
21st September 2014, 15:03
Painfully close
At least we were not seating ducks as two weeks ago
Kyss4k
21st September 2014, 15:04
Kimi passed Botas! No... was passed by Vergne... this is crazy
sachin
21st September 2014, 15:04
The Ferrari engine is down right unacceptable
stefa
21st September 2014, 15:04
As i said, LH easy...
F1Jan
21st September 2014, 15:04
At least we were not seating ducks as two weeks ago
True no blood path
Alesi1
21st September 2014, 15:04
That sux, Alonso deserved a podium today
sachin
21st September 2014, 15:05
Yes gaining points on williams
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 15:06
What a SC may act
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Schumiklub
21st September 2014, 15:06
SC ruined the race for us...
wacc
21st September 2014, 15:06
There was more for Ferrari today. Bad luck. Maybe next time.
Good job both drivers.
Paulo Goncalves
21st September 2014, 15:06
Good bye friends FORZA FERRARI
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sachin
21st September 2014, 15:06
I hope Lewis gets the same fate in abu Dhabi what Rosberg got today :-D
Ed Harley
21st September 2014, 15:06
Well, that was that sort of a race. Next one will be something else or not.
roflcopter44444
21st September 2014, 15:07
Safety car saved the Red Bulls here, Alonso was good for a 2nd place.
F1Jan
21st September 2014, 15:07
There was more for Ferrari today. Bad luck. Maybe next time.
Good job both drivers.
:ferrarifl
Kyss4k
21st September 2014, 15:07
Our engine power and bad call on tyres on the second stop (should have put softs on as RB did) and from possible 2nd we have nothing. Sad.
OSS EL BOSS
21st September 2014, 15:07
Lost second place because of the safety car.
Haris
21st September 2014, 15:07
SC screwed us, we were comfortably 2nd before that. Even if we hadn't pitted at that time later just like Hamilton we would have to use the soft tyres and lose out to both Red Bulls.
Scuderia85
21st September 2014, 15:08
we did not have any luck with the saftey car today!!!!!!!!!!!!!
stefa
21st September 2014, 15:08
FA deserved to be on podium
F1Jan
21st September 2014, 15:09
FA deserved to be on podium
I agree SC made a difference but that is F1 we can never know whether it made it worse or better the only thing we can do is shared our opinions. Good points today.
tifosi1993
21st September 2014, 15:09
Lost a deserved podium place because of the SC, but nonetheless, great job by Fernando & our pit wall.
red power
21st September 2014, 15:09
I can put up with losing to Mercedes, but stuffed if I can put up with losing to Red Bull. Pathetic again.
ManFromMilan
21st September 2014, 15:09
I hope Lewis gets the same fate in abu Dhabi what Rosberg got today :-D
Don't think Merc will allow that to happen
Hornet
21st September 2014, 15:10
Nooooo, damn the safety car :-(
Anyway it was a fantastic drive by Alonso and the team, could have took P2, which would have been like a win for this season.
OSS EL BOSS
21st September 2014, 15:10
Alonso was more than 11 seconds ahead of Vettel when the safety car came out.
sachin
21st September 2014, 15:10
Don't think Merc will allow that to happen
And why is that mate?
They let is happen today...
F1Jan
21st September 2014, 15:10
Lost a deserved podium place because of the SC, but nonetheless, great job by Fernando & our pit wall.
:ferrarifl
impactX
21st September 2014, 15:12
Could have been on the podium if he fits on prime and leaves the SS for the extra stint if needed.
ManFromMilan
21st September 2014, 15:12
This slow F14T is just too much to bear.
Great drives from both our drivers. They did the best they could with what they had today
Hornet
21st September 2014, 15:12
I can put up with losing to Mercedes, but stuffed if I can put up with losing to Red Bull. Pathetic again.
Nothing pathetic about our performance actually. I swear Alonso would be 100% on the podium today without the safety car, Ric had absolutely no answer to Alonso's pace. P2 was also looking very good.
Safety car played right into RB hands today, and it was against us due our strategy
F1Jan
21st September 2014, 15:12
Don't think Merc will allow that to happen
Really I think anything is possible with that team at the moment. I smell a Rat. I wonder what settlements and agreements have been made away from our ears or am I just being an unrealistic Ferrari Fan :-??
stefa
21st September 2014, 15:13
Nothing pathetic about our performance actually. I swear Alonso would be 100% on the podium today without the safety car, Ric had absolutely no answer to Alonso's pace. P2 was also looking very good.
Safety car played right into RB hands today, and it was against us due our strategy
:thumb
OSS EL BOSS
21st September 2014, 15:13
One positive thing about this weekend is the pace of the car, which has been pretty good.
ManFromMilan
21st September 2014, 15:14
Really I think anything is possible with that team at the moment. I smell a Rat. I wonder what settlements and agreements have been made away from our ears or am I just being an unrealistic Ferrari Fan :-??
I feel the same way
F1Jan
21st September 2014, 15:16
Well F1 friends, that's it until next time. Thanks for your comments, company and Forza Ferrari to you all :wave
Rob
21st September 2014, 15:18
Ottimo lavoro da tutti i team oggi, pit-stop molto veloce. :clap
SC really robbed us of podium, possible 2nd. But hey thats how it goes sometimes. Fernando, and the team deserved that podium. Never mind, 5 races left.
fratelliferrari
21st September 2014, 15:20
Ottimo lavoro da tutti i team oggi, pit-stop molto veloce. :clap
SC really robbed us of podium, possible 2nd. But hey thats how it goes sometimes. Fernando, and the team deserved that podium. Never mind, 5 races left.
Yes Iam sad we lost the podium in the end but Iam very proud of the team and the pit crew :thumb Forza Ferrari!
sachin
21st September 2014, 15:21
Someone in the team has to do something special to the engine.
Tyres..strategy and all are fine but engine is where we really really behind
IulianFerrari
21st September 2014, 15:24
Lost a deserved podium place because of the SC, but nonetheless, great job by Fernando & our pit wall.
Ferrari strategy was poor, Red Bull decided not to pit and eventually was the right choice. Both Fernando and Kimi lost places because of it. Let's not forget that Massa past Kimi because the pit crew was 1 second slower than Williams on that turn. Fernando had a great race, hats of to him ...
Greig
21st September 2014, 15:24
Ferrari strategy was poor, Red Bull decided not to pit and eventually was the right choice. Both Fernando and Kimi lost places because of it. Let's not forget that Massa past Kimi because the pit crew was 1 second slower than Williams on that turn. Fernando had a great race, hats of to him ...
We had to pit to go onto the option tyres anyway.
bonzo
21st September 2014, 15:25
One positive thing about this weekend is the pace of the car, which has been pretty good.
Did you watch a different race? Lack of pace was the reason Alonso could not overtake the bulls with 15 laps fresher tires.
Hornet
21st September 2014, 15:27
Ferrari strategy was poor, Red Bull decided not to pit and eventually was the right choice. Both Fernando and Kimi lost places because of it. Let's not forget that Massa past Kimi because the pit crew was 1 second slower than Williams on that turn. Fernando had a great race, hats of to him ...
There was nothing else we could do about the safety car. We still had to do one more stop whatever happened, and it would have been worse to do it after the safety car as the field would have been bunched up and you would lose a whole bunch of places. But right after the safety car came out, the race gap at that point was still there as the field hasn't bunched up yet, and so pitting at that moment lost us the least amount of places.
It was purely bad luck with the SC timing.
tifosi1993
21st September 2014, 15:27
Ferrari strategy was poor, Red Bull decided not to pit and eventually was the right choice. Both Fernando and Kimi lost places because of it. Let's not forget that Massa past Kimi because the pit crew was 1 second slower than Williams on that turn. Fernando had a great race, hats of to him ...
There was nothing wrong with strategy today.
fratelliferrari
21st September 2014, 15:31
There was nothing wrong with strategy today.
:thumb
Stormy
21st September 2014, 15:32
I honestly thought Alonso will snatch the podium even after the SC came. Alonso was on newer tires, Ricciardo and Vettel were both on old tyres, and Alonso couldnt manage to follow that tempo, he was driving kind of conservative, i thought when the SC went out that Alonso will catch Ricciardo and attack him in a couple of laps. I think Alonso was driving a bit conservative.
Kingdom Hearts
21st September 2014, 15:32
Good effort by Fernando, too bad about the SC but at the end of the day the problem is that we are slow.
Alesi1
21st September 2014, 15:32
Wonder who tombazis has left to blame now. Wanted a small engine for his great aero, but now we can't een get close to overtake anyone in a straight line.
ManFromMilan
21st September 2014, 15:33
There was nothing wrong with strategy today.
I agree. Our car is just not fast enough. Strategy was the best that we could have done with what we have been dealt with.
Kyss4k
21st September 2014, 15:34
There was nothing else we could do about the safety car. We still had to do one more stop whatever happened, and it would have been worse to do it after the safety car as the field would have been bunched up and you would lose a whole bunch of places. But right after the safety car came out, the race gap at that point was still there as the field hasn't bunched up yet, and so pitting at that moment lost us the least amount of places.
It was purely bad luck with the SC timing.
He talks about strategy before SC. Red Bull pitted for primes, while we went for options. That is why SC then cost us.
Nova
21st September 2014, 15:39
Overall, an exciting race to watch. Love to see us fighting.
Hornet
21st September 2014, 15:39
He talks about strategy before SC. Red Bull pitted for primes, while we went for options. That is why SC then cost us.
But the race strategy is planned independent of SC, and without SC our race strategy may have worked out well. In the post race interview, Alonso himself said the strategy was good, just bad luck about the SC.
One cannot say it was bad because of the SC happening at that point, as we have no way of knowing when SC would come out if at all, hence we cannot plan anything in regard to that.
tifosi1993
21st September 2014, 15:39
I agree. Our car is just not fast enough. Strategy was the best that we could have done with what we have been dealt with.
Our car was fast enough to be on podium today, Fernando was nearly 9-10 seconds ahead of Vettel before the safety car came out.
Stormy
21st September 2014, 15:41
Our car was fast enough to be on podium today, Fernando was nearly 9-10 seconds ahead of Vettel before the safety car came out.
I dont understand how come Alonso didnt manage to keep up with Ricciardo's tempo after SC, Alonso was on newer tires, i thought he would attack and overtake Ricciardo in a couple of laps after SC went off.
Kyss4k
21st September 2014, 15:42
But the race strategy is planned independent of SC, and without SC our race strategy may have worked out well. In the post race interview, Alonso himself said the strategy was good, just bad luck about the SC.
One cannot say it was bad because of the SC happening at that point, as we have no way of knowing when SC would come out if at all, hence we cannot plan anything in regard to that.
I still am not sure, if we could beat bulls with our strategy. They would not be pushing so hard if the SC won't come so they would be probably able to make it to the end as it didn't look as difficult after after all. So we would have to still overtake them. The strategy wasn't horrible, but not as good as Red Bulls and that did cost us the podium.
Hornet
21st September 2014, 15:43
I dont understand how come Alonso didnt manage to keep up with Ricciardo's tempo after SC, Alonso was on newer tires, i thought he would attack and overtake Ricciardo in a couple of laps after SC went off.
Ric tires wasn't that old, he pitted much later than Vettel. And Alonso can't be trashing his tires either, otherwise once it's gone, it completely falls off as you can see with Bottas. Bottas completely moved backwards once the tires stop working.
20000rpm
21st September 2014, 15:55
Ric tires wasn't that old, he pitted much later than Vettel. And Alonso can't be trashing his tires either, otherwise once it's gone, it completely falls off as you can see with Bottas. Bottas completely moved backwards once the tires stop working.
He pretty much ruined Raikonnen's race for sure. Little room for overtaking.
Stormy
21st September 2014, 15:56
Ric tires wasn't that old, he pitted much later than Vettel. And Alonso can't be trashing his tires either, otherwise once it's gone, it completely falls off as you can see with Bottas. Bottas completely moved backwards once the tires stop working.
True that, but i was expecting Alonso at least few laps to give his maximum and try to overtake, he didn't even bother...
The same goes for Kimi, he was conservative as well.
Alonsomaniac
21st September 2014, 16:00
Our drivers were good today, the team was good, the strategy was good and the car was reasonable on this track.
We could have made to second if it hadn't been for the SC.
But that's racing - sometimes SC situations favor you and sometimes they don't. On the other hand, if Rosberg's car hadn't failed, we could never have made it to second and in this situation we would have been 5th.
So,it is what it is........
Haris
21st September 2014, 16:06
Ricciardo pitted on lap 27, Alonso on lap 31, so our tyres really weren't that much better and I thought right during the SC period that Ricciardo would stay until the end. They were also helped by a pretty long SC period, it felt like 10 laps.
In the end, 2nd was definetly ours without the SC period. If we had fitted the softs on the 2nd pitsop just like the RBs we would have stayed ahead of them.
eddie
21st September 2014, 16:13
A little sad we didn't get the podium, we were a lot closer this time. The safety car came at the wrong moment
IulianFerrari
21st September 2014, 16:19
We had to pit to go onto the option tyres anyway.
My bad then, did not saw that because the stream was not so great.
IulianFerrari
21st September 2014, 16:22
There was nothing else we could do about the safety car. We still had to do one more stop whatever happened, and it would have been worse to do it after the safety car as the field would have been bunched up and you would lose a whole bunch of places. But right after the safety car came out, the race gap at that point was still there as the field hasn't bunched up yet, and so pitting at that moment lost us the least amount of places.
It was purely bad luck with the SC timing.
Yes it correct. I did not notice we did not put the option tyre on the first pit stop. Why didn't we though? In a race where 100% of the time in previous races the safety car comes in, you should realize that is a big possible of that happening.
IulianFerrari
21st September 2014, 16:24
Did Vergne get that 5 second penalty, Blundle was babbling about ? That would rise Kimi to 7th and more points over Williams today...
Rishu
21st September 2014, 16:32
Good race, but sad to see Fernando & Kimi stuck behind Ricciardo & Bottas. Hamilton drove exceptional stint after the safety car, reminded of Michael putting in 20 consistent qualifying laps. SC worked in our favor but the longer it stayed, started to screw us, potentially cost us the podium. Really want Hamilton to take the title, now I think bad luck count for both him & Rosberg are even, should be a good contest to watch.
Hornet
21st September 2014, 16:59
Did Vergne get that 5 second penalty, Blundle was babbling about ? That would rise Kimi to 7th and more points over Williams today...
Official result list him as P6. I think he managed to pull open a gap more than 5 sec ahead, so he gets to keep his P6 after +5 sec
fratelliferrari
21st September 2014, 17:35
Official result list him as P6. I think he managed to pull open a gap more than 5 sec ahead, so he gets to keep his P6 after +5 sec
I have to say he drove rather good today!
wisepie
21st September 2014, 17:38
Ottimo lavoro da tutti i team oggi, pit-stop molto veloce. :clap
SC really robbed us of podium, possible 2nd. But hey thats how it goes sometimes. Fernando, and the team deserved that podium. Never mind, 5 races left.
D'accordo Rob, much easier to see what we could have done better with hindsight, but SC will always work against someone and this time it was us. Only 5 races to go and I won't be sorry when this season ends, couldn't care less about Merc and their drivers or the Bulls (except maybe RIC), but today Fernando deserved a podium as much as ever, good to see both drivers fighting even though Kimi got stuck behind BOT. I'm also beginning to smell a rat with the Merc team's apparent sharing of glitches between HAM/ROS at recent races.....wasn't Niki Lauda always called the rat? Says it all, even if he was a Ferrari champ! I even prefer Vettel to either of the Merc drivers and that's saying something. Frustrating race for us tifosi but well done ragazzi for showing that Ferrari can still fight after all this season's turmoil.
TonyRizza
21st September 2014, 18:19
redbulls have all the luck like normal, before sc alonso was 9 seconds ahead of vettel, not sure what we have to do to get a tiny bit of luck or even a normal race... then the engine doesnt have the power to overtake under drs.... sooner this year is over the better roll on 2015
Tony
21st September 2014, 18:30
Official result list him as P6. I think he managed to pull open a gap more than 5 sec ahead, so he gets to keep his P6 after +5 sec
I don't understand the point of this rule... it should be 5 seconds plus the time to go into the pits at the least...
As it stands, if you are stuck behind someone because of a straight-line speed disadvantage then basically all you have to do is pass them off track and build up more than a 5 second lead whereas you could easily be stuck behind that car for 10-20 laps and that would ruin your race.... why aren't more drivers just passing off the track then since this rule doesn't really penalize them the way they would be penalized stuck behind a car for several laps?
mirafiori
21st September 2014, 19:02
I don't understand the point of this rule... it should be 5 seconds plus the time to go into the pits at the least...
As it stands, if you are stuck behind someone because of a straight-line speed disadvantage then basically all you have to do is pass them off track and build up more than a 5 second lead whereas you could easily be stuck behind that car for 10-20 laps and that would ruin your race.... why aren't more drivers just passing off the track then since this rule doesn't really penalize them the way they would be penalized stuck behind a car for several laps?
Yeah you make a good point, sometimes the rules make no sense, I remember in 2010 when Alonso made contact with Kubica and Nigel Mansell was the race steward and penalized Alonso for gaining unfair advantage and just before the decision Kubica had retired from the race and it was not clear if it was Alonso fault or a racing incident. That decision from Mansell cost Alonso the title. I remember Alonso was not happy on team radio and even though Alonso was around 50 points behind Vettel he said we will still win the title. Nearly came true.
Hornet
21st September 2014, 19:05
I don't understand the point of this rule... it should be 5 seconds plus the time to go into the pits at the least...
As it stands, if you are stuck behind someone because of a straight-line speed disadvantage then basically all you have to do is pass them off track and build up more than a 5 second lead whereas you could easily be stuck behind that car for 10-20 laps and that would ruin your race.... why aren't more drivers just passing off the track then since this rule doesn't really penalize them the way they would be penalized stuck behind a car for several laps?
Well the purpose of this 5 second penalty was to provide a more lenient punishment for minor offenses where a drive through penalty is too severe. In the past, the minimum punishment available to the stewards was a drive through penalty, which was criticized as too harsh for offenses such as minor track limits infringements.
For bigger track limits infringement such as the one you mentioned, the driver would be told to give up the position or if it's not possible, I think the stewards may hand a more severe penalty such as a drive through.
Stormsearcher
21st September 2014, 19:39
Good race, but sad to see Fernando & Kimi stuck behind Ricciardo & Bottas. Hamilton drove exceptional stint after the safety car, reminded of Michael putting in 20 consistent qualifying laps. SC worked in our favor but the longer it stayed, started to screw us, potentially cost us the podium. Really want Hamilton to take the title, now I think bad luck count for both him & Rosberg are even, should be a good contest to watch.
Hamilton did drive a great race, but I think the merc is much faster than they are letting on. When ever they are in a situation they start pulling out a second a lap gap. I think merc is keeping their true speed under wraps so that the other teams dont protest to have the engine ban lifted.
Stormsearcher
21st September 2014, 19:41
As for our race, i think we did fairly well. We got caught out by the SC and that effectively ruined what could have been a P2, P5 for us.
But there is light in the horizon. Our car is coming around. Every so slowly, but at least headed in the right direction. :-)
tifosi1993
21st September 2014, 20:15
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Suzie
21st September 2014, 20:29
Gorgeous photos... no car looks better under the lights.
I really thought Nando was on for a podium today.
Rob
21st September 2014, 20:46
found this tweet rather funny....
LUCAS DI GRASSI @LucasdiGrassi 7h
Now we know the truth... Some engineer uploaded the new iOS for iphone 6 into Rosbergs car by mistake..
fratelliferrari
21st September 2014, 20:52
found this tweet rather funny....
LUCAS DI GRASSI @LucasdiGrassi 7h
Now we know the truth... Some engineer uploaded the new iOS for iphone 6 into Rosbergs car by mistake..
:rotfl
Nova
22nd September 2014, 00:01
I honestly thought Alonso will snatch the podium even after the SC came. Alonso was on newer tires, Ricciardo and Vettel were both on old tyres, and Alonso couldnt manage to follow that tempo, he was driving kind of conservative, i thought when the SC went out that Alonso will catch Ricciardo and attack him in a couple of laps. I think Alonso was driving a bit conservative.
He could have been but I doubt it..he was probably racing as fast as he could given the fuel limitation.
OK, so they doing hybrids, but at least give them enough fuel to punch it the whole race.
Hornet
22nd September 2014, 05:38
He could have been but I doubt it..he was probably racing as fast as he could given the fuel limitation.
OK, so they doing hybrids, but at least give them enough fuel to punch it the whole race.
Problem is the fuel rate rule. The safety car period would have save them some extra fuel, but they cannot use them because they would go over the fuel rate limit.
I really wish the rate limit would be remove. Give them 100kg and let them use it however they want. Too much green and not enough racing focus.
stefa
22nd September 2014, 05:57
found this tweet rather funny....
LUCAS DI GRASSI @LucasdiGrassi 7h
Now we know the truth... Some engineer uploaded the new iOS for iphone 6 into Rosbergs car by mistake..
:rotfl :clap :rotfl
stefa
22nd September 2014, 05:59
Problem is the fuel rate rule. The safety car period would have save them some extra fuel, but they cannot use them because they would go over the fuel rate limit.
I really wish the rate limit would be remove. Give them 100kg and let them use it however they want. Too much green and not enough racing focus.
Exactly. Too much stupid and not real , as it was, Formula 1 racing!
Alessandra
22nd September 2014, 09:25
FA Tweet: "Fought until the last lap. So close to the leaders. Confirmed: The best weekend so far. More to come in 15 days!!"
Senna4Ever
22nd September 2014, 11:39
Too bad I couldn't watch. Seems it was worth to watch. Just read about the perfect start of Fernando .... to bad SC didn't work in our favour.
FA Tweet: "Fought until the last lap. So close to the leaders. Confirmed: The best weekend so far. More to come in 15 days!!"
According to what goes on in the rumours thread, maybe he refers to the awaited announcement by Honda?
Hornet
22nd September 2014, 13:08
Too bad I couldn't watch. Seems it was worth to watch. Just read about the perfect start of Fernando .... to bad SC didn't work in our favour.
According to what goes on in the rumours thread, maybe he refers to the awaited announcement by Honda?
Sky reported that McLaren said they will not be making any drivers announcement at Japan. The media are guessing there may be an announcement at Honda's home race, but I don't see why McLaren should that. IMO it would be like expecting Red Bull to make announcement at Renault's headquarters.
sav_pap
24th September 2014, 13:59
Nando has already signed with Honda.😱
fratelliferrari
24th September 2014, 14:03
Nando has already signed with Honda.
Source??
F1NAC
24th September 2014, 19:14
he signed with Marussia.
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