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Sriharsha
12th April 2015, 10:19
https://motorsportstalk.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/bahrain-4-4.jpegRace Date : 19-04-2015Tire ChoicesOption - Soft (2014-Soft)Prime - Medium (2014-Medium)Number of Laps : 57Circuit Length : 5.412 kmRace Distance : 308.238 kmhttp://www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/championship/races/2015/Bahrain/_jcr_content/circuitMap.img.png/1421421859819.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/KQp7msH.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Qd5qyZc.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCPqLIoIAr8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlNgLvvpkaI

fmatiasii
12th April 2015, 11:30
According to JA there will be updates for the car, let's hope there will be improvement.

Nand0Nand0
12th April 2015, 14:00
Even without updates we will be even more competitive here, just imagine if we bring updates and they work they the off-season upgrades did - game on :-D

Giallo 550
12th April 2015, 15:29
Very excited for this GP! :ferrarifl

Nomore
12th April 2015, 18:02
This has to be the turnaround for Kimi...from now on i expect him to beat consistently Vettel.

F1 Dream Team
12th April 2015, 18:04
This has to be the turnaround for Kimi...from now on i expect him to beat consistently Vettel.

As long as we beat merc don't matter who wins seb or kimi

Greig
12th April 2015, 18:05
This has to be the turnaround for Kimi...from now on i expect him to beat consistently Vettel.

Expect to be disappointed then :-)

stefa
12th April 2015, 18:20
As long as we beat merc don't matter who wins seb or kimi

:thumb

Nero Horse
12th April 2015, 21:19
Hope those updates (if they really do come) will improve our pace even more. Would be great if we could harass those damn mercs even more in this race. It's good that we're at least clear second best at the moment, so that we don't really need to worry about a threat coming from behind and can concentrate on hunting down the Merc. Interesting and exciting times ahead.

TigerKing
13th April 2015, 01:09
Hopefully the 2015 cars go faster than in 2013 here. That way we can see actual improvement in the formula.

Giallo 550
13th April 2015, 02:20
This has to be the turnaround for Kimi...from now on i expect him to beat consistently Vettel.

He's certainly overdo to outperform is teammate.

Sriharsha
13th April 2015, 02:38
Being a rear Limited track like Sepang will make a difference here. I hope we beat one merc atleast. Also being the 4th race on 1st engine means the Engine cycle is coming to end here. Reliability will come to play for us vs mercedes

Cemz85
13th April 2015, 07:58
Guys, any idea when we will be using development tokens on our PU?

AfterLife
13th April 2015, 08:05
Guys, any idea when we will be using development tokens on our PU?

After Spanish GP there are 2 days of testing. So it is reasonable for every manufacturer to use those two days for evaluation of their performance tokens upgrades and if the tokens got green light, Monaco or Canada could see the upgraded power unit.

PURE PASSION
13th April 2015, 08:13
After Spanish GP there are 2 days of testing. So it is reasonable for every manufacturer to use those two days for evaluation of their performance tokens upgrades and if the tokens got green light, Monaco or Canada could see the upgraded power unit.
So we will not use the upgraded PU in the race???

Jax
13th April 2015, 08:36
So we will not use the upgraded PU in the race???

No it would be stupid to use untested upgrades, look at Renault.

AfterLife
13th April 2015, 09:27
So we will not use the upgraded PU in the race???

I don't think for Bahrain and Spain there is going to be upgraded power unit, but in Monaco and especially Canada I expect to see upgraded power units from all the manufacturers.

PURE PASSION
13th April 2015, 09:40
I'm just asking because rumours from different sources in the last couple of months,where talking about major PU upgrade at Spanish GP and the next after summer break!!!

AfterLife
13th April 2015, 10:10
I'm just asking because rumours from different sources in the last couple of months,where talking about major PU upgrade at Spanish GP and the next after summer break!!!

Maybe those rumors are true but I highly doubt it, because after Spanish GP there are two days of testing and only chance for all the teams to put lots of mileage to their upgraded power units and evaluate the results.

vetalo
13th April 2015, 10:17
Maybe those rumors are true but I highly doubt it, because after Spanish GP there are two days of testing and only chance for all the teams to put lots of mileage to their upgraded power units and evaluate the results.

This makes sense; better to test the PU after Spanish GP. We need to be patient with the team.

FerrariSteve
13th April 2015, 10:34
PLEASE let our guys beat Merc, sick of the smug look on Ham's face. Beat him a few times and he'll quit F1 and go rapping with his bro's. lol

F1NAC
13th April 2015, 11:01
This makes sense; better to test the PU after Spanish GP. We need to be patient with the team.

Isnt Barcelona spec upgrade already tested during winter with sauber?

zike
13th April 2015, 11:33
Isnt Barcelona spec upgrade already tested during winter with sauber?

I think it is not, the PU that we are using now is the one tested during winter

F1NAC
13th April 2015, 11:35
I think it is not, the PU that we are using now is the one tested during winter
Nope. We had weaker (few hp down) pu on the last test. Sauber had test Pu with slightly more power and Ferrari said they will use in OZ same pu like in testing

zike
13th April 2015, 11:43
Nope. We had weaker (few hp down) pu on the last test. Sauber had test Pu with slightly more power and Ferrari said they will use in OZ same pu like in testing

The same as in the last test? the weaker one?..........and as far as I remember ther was no official Ferrari statement on this

PURE PASSION
13th April 2015, 12:14
Nope. We had weaker (few hp down) pu on the last test. Sauber had test Pu with slightly more power and Ferrari said they will use in OZ same pu like in testing
I remember some rumours back then,just before Aus GP , that we whould use a "weaker" PU,because we where uncertain about the durability of the tuned engine.
Something like the cooling system,it is confirmed after Malaysia and in China that we where too conservative in the begining!!!!!

jpalmito
13th April 2015, 12:22
Next grand prix i bet same result with Hamilton rosberg vettel raikkonen in that order.
We have to be patient because recovering from last year is very difficult, and w05 and w06 are two of the most dominants car in f1 history.
I feel very confident because the team now is like a military structure with clear responsabilities( aka jean todt structure) and tribal system(alonso and co) is gone.
Until the last years improvements will be real and if mercedes reliability is bad in second part of the year , who knows..

Alonso14
13th April 2015, 12:27
If you asked me before the 2014 Bahrain GP I would have said that both Vettel and Kimi are Bahrain specialist. Now I'm not that sure. Beating Hamilton would be tough as he's a world-class driver and such guys only need couple of tenths car advantage over the competition to wrap up the race with ease. But I reckon Rosberg might be there for the taking by one of our drivers (possibly both) because Rosberg is Rosberg.

F1 Dream Team
13th April 2015, 12:27
http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/521973/Rikknen_opens_up_about_Ferrari_and_fatherhood/

In an interview with the Italian broadcaster RAI, Kimi Räikkönen openly spoke about his relationship with Sebastian Vettel. He also revealed how it feels to be a father.
Kimi has probably the most mysterious personality among his fellow drivers. When he closes his visor, he feels perfect and flies into a different world, but off the track he is hard nut to crack.

Kimi said that his relationship with Sebastian Vettel is still very good and people had better stop expecting problems between him and the German.

“The relationship between me and Sebastian is fine as before. People believe that between me and Seb internal problems may arise because of the different results, be we get along as friends and especially as colleagues. It is normal being against on the track, but for the team we work together.”

The former World Champion also revealed that the atmosphere at Ferrari is not only good, but claims it is the best he has ever experienced during his spell in Formula 1.

“Inside the team we work well and in harmony. All the team go in the same direction. It’s the best moment as group dynamics of all my experience in Formula 1.”

In February Kimi became a dad when his son Robin was born. However, he can’t spend much time with him and his girlfriend Minttu because of his intense professional commitments.

“I am very happy with being dad. Obviously it is a different feeling, something new for me, especially hold in my arms this little adorable baby. Unfortunately I’m very often out and not at home, but that’s life. When he will grow up, I’ll bring him with me, I am very happy right now.

“I have a beautiful family, who supports me, even when I return to home after a bad race.”

Kimi also spoke about the prospects for the future, admitting his future still hangs in the balance.

“We have to understand what the team principal wants and thinks and if Ferrari wants me,” Kimi said.

zike
13th April 2015, 12:50
So stronger PU in Bah or Spain?

NickEice
13th April 2015, 13:02
So stronger PU in Bah or Spain?

Neither. Wait until Canada.

zike
13th April 2015, 14:34
Neither. Wait until Canada.

But I read somewhere that we will have updated PU in Barca

Sriharsha
13th April 2015, 14:41
But I read somewhere that we will have updated PU in Barca
I think we will update the Engine in Barcelona Test. Every engine must last for 5 races this year.
So if Team decides to Give fresh Engine which is #2 in Allocation for Barcelona and use the 1st engine for Monaco we will have 1st Engine in Spain.

fadyferrari
13th April 2015, 16:22
I think we will update the Engine in Barcelona Test. Every engine must last for 5 races this year.
So if Team decides to Give fresh Engine which is #2 in Allocation for Barcelona and use the 1st engine for Monaco we will have 1st Engine in Spain.

its back to four races per engine.teams have agreed to engine allocation increasing from 4 to 5

Jax
13th April 2015, 16:31
its back to four races per engine.teams have agreed to engine allocation increasing from 4 to 5

Fady habibi, it's not yet inked :)

chris.gotfunk
13th April 2015, 16:46
That is an amazing quote to read.


http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/521973/Rikknen_opens_up_about_Ferrari_and_fatherhood/

In an interview with the Italian broadcaster RAI, Kimi Räikkönen openly spoke about his relationship with Sebastian Vettel. He also revealed how it feels to be a father.
Kimi has probably the most mysterious personality among his fellow drivers. When he closes his visor, he feels perfect and flies into a different world, but off the track he is hard nut to crack.

Kimi said that his relationship with Sebastian Vettel is still very good and people had better stop expecting problems between him and the German.

“The relationship between me and Sebastian is fine as before. People believe that between me and Seb internal problems may arise because of the different results, be we get along as friends and especially as colleagues. It is normal being against on the track, but for the team we work together.”

The former World Champion also revealed that the atmosphere at Ferrari is not only good, but claims it is the best he has ever experienced during his spell in Formula 1.

“Inside the team we work well and in harmony. All the team go in the same direction. It’s the best moment as group dynamics of all my experience in Formula 1.”

In February Kimi became a dad when his son Robin was born. However, he can’t spend much time with him and his girlfriend Minttu because of his intense professional commitments.

“I am very happy with being dad. Obviously it is a different feeling, something new for me, especially hold in my arms this little adorable baby. Unfortunately I’m very often out and not at home, but that’s life. When he will grow up, I’ll bring him with me, I am very happy right now.

“I have a beautiful family, who supports me, even when I return to home after a bad race.”

Kimi also spoke about the prospects for the future, admitting his future still hangs in the balance.

“We have to understand what the team principal wants and thinks and if Ferrari wants me,” Kimi said.

PURE PASSION
13th April 2015, 17:05
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Nero Horse
13th April 2015, 18:20
Bahrain Grand Prix Preview: Manama, April 16-19, 2015

P ZERO WHITE MEDIUM AND P ZERO YELLOW SOFT TYRES
FOR THE FIRST EVENING GRAND PRIX OF THE SEASON

TRACK TEMPERATURES FALL AS THE RACE GOES ON

Bahrain, a favoured testing venue in the past on account of its year-round warm weather, hosts the third race of the season where the medium and soft compounds have been nominated, like Australia and China. Unlike these, it is a twilight race: starting in the evening and finishing in the dark. As a result, track and air temperatures tend to fall as the race goes on.

Paul Hembery, Pirelli motorsport director: “We have the same tyre choice as we did in China for Bahrain, although there will obviously be a bit more temperature involved. However, with the race taking place in the evening, conditions won’t be as aggressive as they were in Malaysia – or even Bahrain two years ago, when the race was still run during the day. A defining characteristic of Bahrain now is that tyre performance changes over the course of the weekend as we slowly edge towards afternoon sessions. Last year’s Bahrain Grand Prix had a thrilling finish because of the safety car with 10 laps to go, leading to a great battle between the two Mercedes team mates. It’s harder to know what to expect this year – apart from the fact that it’s very unlikely to rain!”

The biggest challenges for the tyres:
Bahrain has the highest degree of asphalt roughness seen all year (with the exception of Jerez, used for testing). This accelerates thermal degradation on the tyres. However, this factor is partly mitigated by the fact that track and air temperatures fall as the race goes on, which obviously has an effect on tyre degradation and therefore strategy.

Because of the traction demands of the Bahrain International Circuit, it is particularly tough on the rear tyres: the limiting factor in Bahrain. During the day, ambient temperatures tend to be high, which increases thermal degradation but is not completely representative of the race.

The circuit is surrounded by the desert, which leads to sand blowing onto the surface and decreasing grip levels, particularly at the start of each session. When it comes to strategy, teams will not be able to rely on the appearance of a safety car. Since the race was inaugurated in 2004, the safety car has appeared only twice (in 2007 and 2014).

Pirelli’s presence will be increased with the first round of this year’s GP2 series in Bahrain, which has supplied eight of the drivers currently on the Formula One grid. At a GP2 race alongside F1, the total number of Pirelli tyres supplied increases from 1800 to 2700 and the number of Pirelli personnel at the track from around 55 to 65.

Last year’s strategy and how the race was won: Last year, a rare safety car just 10 laps from the finish levelled the playing field and provided a thrilling battle to the finish. The top six all adopted a two-stop strategy, but there were different choices down the field. Lewis Hamilton went for a soft-soft-medium strategy, with Nico Rosberg going for soft-medium-soft. The German set the fastest lap at the end of the race, but didn’t quite manage to pass his team mate after their final stop. Sebastian Vettel was fourth on a different strategy, being one of just two drivers to start the race on the medium tyre.

Expected performance gap between the two compounds: 1.5 -1.7 seconds per lap.

Expected weather conditions for the race: Dry and warm, starting in the region of 29 degrees centigrade ambient and dropping down to 25 degrees or lower by the finish. The risk of rain is very low, although there has been some light precipitation in the past over the race weekend.

The tyre choices so far this year:
http://i.imgur.com/Rf4K7XP.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/UUBuNlN.jpg

mkable1370
13th April 2015, 20:13
So stronger PU in Bah or Spain?

Would not expect a PU upgrade until at least Spain. Each PU needs to last on average 4-5 races in order to avoid penalties for using 5th PU components this year.

cokata
13th April 2015, 20:27
Would not expect a PU upgrade until at least Spain. Each PU needs to last on average 4-5 races in order to avoid penalties for using 5th PU components this year.

You can go to a 2nd PU in bahrain if you want as it is a power heavy circuit and use the 1st PU (that by know has decreased levels of performance) in tracks like Monaco or Hungury where engine power is not all that important.

But i would expect updates to come later in the season not now. The more time you give yourself the better you will spend your tokens. Probably small update before Canada, and a big one before Spa and Monza.

Winter
13th April 2015, 20:30
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Iceman and Robin, cute :baby

TigerKing
13th April 2015, 23:41
PLEASE let our guys beat Merc, sick of the smug look on Ham's face. Beat him a few times and he'll quit F1 and go rapping with his bro's. lol

Hamilton has said he'd consider a career of rapping. TBH i think he'd make a good rapper and I'd buy his albums!

zike
14th April 2015, 06:15
We should be closer to Merc in this race???

Sriharsha
14th April 2015, 06:58
We should be closer to Merc in this race???
The Thing is it changes all the time. We expect to be closer to them due to the rear limited circuit but being a night race means that primes will be switched on easily by Merc than us. Then again our updates might help us with this. So it goes on and on. Reliability is the major factor as this weekend in this power circuit with engines is on 4th race

navettel
14th April 2015, 07:54
Hopefully some good things are on its way:
@Gianlu_DAle
According to Sky Italia, Ferrari wants to renew Kimi's
contract. The team is very happy of Kimi & Seb. Next
races will be crucial
@Gianlu_DAle ·
# Rumors - New # Ferrari 's package for the # SpanishGp (&
test): - New diffuser - New front wing - New floor - New
nose - PU update

S1000RR
14th April 2015, 09:07
Honda is bringing updated PU to Spanish GP, with some new Aero parts.

F1NAC
14th April 2015, 09:23
Honda is bringing updated PU to Spanish GP, with some new Aero parts.

Who cares on this forum what will they bring. But all pu manufacturers are bringing updates there

Majki2111
14th April 2015, 11:48
Who cares on this forum what will they bring. But all pu manufacturers are bringing updates there

I do.

fmatiasii
14th April 2015, 12:36
I do.

:Hmm

mark p
14th April 2015, 12:59
But I read somewhere that we will have updated PU in Barca

Originally 20 races 4 engines. Now no Germany it means can change to next spec 1 race early so 5 races new specs until the end of the year. I know some want to wait for post Spain test but at some point you will introduce a new spec when there is no test scheduled. If Sauber ran it already and they have analysed this they can introduce for the Spain race then at the post race test run the development engine for the next spec thats introduced later in the year. This way they have testing data to check through on the next spec.

Rob
14th April 2015, 13:56
Who cares on this forum what will they bring. But all pu manufacturers are bringing updates there

i care, as its F1, and will effect the grid and cars. Im interested in what ALL the teams will bring. I have nota blickered view or ignorant when it comes to other teams.

F1NAC
14th April 2015, 13:59
Yes. But why post it in Bahrain thread? Ok so back to the topic then. MclHonda will bring new floor and diffuser. In China only Button had new one.

Fireblade
14th April 2015, 14:20
Mercedes biggest strength is in the long high speed corners, which is why they killed everyone else in Sector 2 in China. Bahrain doesn't have a sector like that so we should be closer to them in the next race.

Nero Horse
14th April 2015, 15:50
I do.

Yeah, we know that you do lol. By the way, before the first test of the season I remember you made a prediction that by now Macca would be 2nd best team right behind the Mercs and challenging them...how's that working out for ya? :-D :rotfl

zike
14th April 2015, 15:55
Yeah, we know that you do lol. By the way, before the first test of the season I remember you made a prediction that by now Macca would be 2nd best team right behind the Mercs and challenging them...how's that working out for ya? :-D :rotfl
:rotfl :clap............McLaren is always funny to watch

F1NAC
14th April 2015, 16:17
So stronger PU in Bah or Spain?

Spain

FFFerrari
14th April 2015, 17:59
Indeed, no real changes to Bahrain but a boatload to Spain. I'm still expecting us competing against the Mercs and having a real shot of a win.

mark p
14th April 2015, 20:31
:rotfl :clap............McLaren is always funny to watch

They are funny. Biggest joke in F1 this year. However their pr spin is awesome, if 5hey could design cars as well as they spin stories knowone would catch them. They convinced that ex Ferrari driver to join by talking rubbish then when they realised how bad they are they have made the British media and fans believe it was expected and they will soon be a force. Complete rubbish like their road cars actually. If you can translate"All talk then lose" into latin that should be their motto.

darkchild
14th April 2015, 20:55
Mclaren are all talk no walk with Ron at helm. Not just in F1...they made P1. In Rons words "bestest and fastest everywhere". Gazillion kgs of downforce, 900hp, Nurburgring killer bla bla. And then Porsche with less hp, more " fat" blew it out of the water on every single track. He also said that tech zhat Honda is using cant be found anywhere, its that advanced. He is snake oil salesman nothing more...

fratelliferrari
14th April 2015, 21:09
Yeah, we know that you do lol. By the way, before the first test of the season I remember you made a prediction that by now Macca would be 2nd best team right behind the Mercs and challenging them...how's that working out for ya? :-D :rotfl

Yes and I didn't bet for 100 EURO that we were 2nd team this year after all the advices here! You should have known we were 2nd best team :lol

fratelliferrari
14th April 2015, 21:10
Yes and I didn't bet for 100 EURO that we were 2nd team this year after all the advices here :-( You should have known we were 2nd best team :lol

Nero Horse
14th April 2015, 21:17
They are funny. Biggest joke in F1 this year. However their pr spin is awesome, if 5hey could design cars as well as they spin stories knowone would catch them. They convinced that ex Ferrari driver to join by talking rubbish then when they realised how bad they are they have made the British media and fans believe it was expected and they will soon be a force. Complete rubbish like their road cars actually. If you can translate"All talk then lose" into latin that should be their motto.

:thumb Well said. Those clowns from Woking are always full of it. Watching them crawling at the back is just priceless, second best thing, behind seeing Ferrari winning.

abbottcostello
14th April 2015, 22:55
i care, as its F1, and will effect the grid and cars. Im interested in what ALL the teams will bring. I have nota blickered view or ignorant when it comes to other teams.
Same here! Always wise to keep an eye on the competition no matter how badly they seem to be floundering. We (Ferrari) have just shown a good example of that!
Plus, as you say it is interesting :thumb

f1 alfa
15th April 2015, 12:57
http://autosprint.corrieredellosport.it/2015/04/15/gp-bahrain-ferrari-sakhir-incognita-vento/28494/

f1 alfa
15th April 2015, 13:06
A very interesting article where Resta and Allison explain Bahrain track: "Il Bahrain è un tracciato molto impegnativo per gli aspetti ambientali, la temperatura, e per le caratteristiche della pista, che mettono la macchina alla prova sulla trazione in uscita di curva e sulle frenate: numerose e molto forti», spiega. Due aree nelle quali Vettel e Raikkonen possono contare su una monoposto apparsa a proprio agio finora.Rispetto a Shanghai dovremmo ritrovare una SF15-T più vicina alle Mercedes.. Sabato e domenica è atteso tra i 20 e 35 km/h.

f1 alfa
15th April 2015, 13:17
Bahrain is a very challenging track for the environmental aspects, the temperature, and the characteristics of the track, it put to the test the traction out of corners and braking: numerous and very strong, "he explains. Two areas in which Vettel and Raikkonen can count on a car appeared at ease since now. Unlike Shanghai we should find a SF15-T closer to Mercedes .. Saturday and Sunday wind is expected between 20 and 35 km / h , whitch affects very much the tires...

Nero Horse
15th April 2015, 15:07
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEMgobAn7kU

Tony
15th April 2015, 15:48
Yes and I didn't bet for 100 EURO that we were 2nd team this year after all the advices here! You should have known we were 2nd best team :lol

Hehe, if I remember correctly, Vettel had to finish second in your betting scenario, we have to still see how that plays out :p

But this year has been a pleasant surprise... I never expected Ferrari to be this quick!! then again, I never expected Red Bull to be on par with Toro Rosso lol!!

Oh and what's up with the F1 broadcasters, I never get an on board shot from Manor, never see them on the screen, nothing... it's like they don't exist... Every once in a while you catch a glimpse at the start of the race and that's it... is this intentional?

Winter
15th April 2015, 16:04
Hehe, if I remember correctly, Vettel had to finish second in your betting scenario, we have to still see how that plays out :p

But this year has been a pleasant surprise... I never expected Ferrari to be this quick!! then again, I never expected Red Bull to be on par with Toro Rosso lol!!

Oh and what's up with the F1 broadcasters, I never get an on board shot from Manor, never see them on the screen, nothing... it's like they don't exist... Every once in a while you catch a glimpse at the start of the race and that's it... is this intentional?

Talking about screen time. Did anyone notice how little Mercs were seen during the race and when they were, it was about Vettel vs Rosberg. Our commentators even mentioned that maybe Bernie has ordered no screen time for Mercs :-)

WS6TransAm01
15th April 2015, 17:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEMgobAn7kU

Okay, not to be a and nit-pick but why is the car animated as is it has AWD lol. The front wheels are spinning way faster than they should during a doughnut and are leaving tire marks. I don't know why, but that kinda irks me. :-p

Warp
15th April 2015, 21:38
I really want to see Ferrari fighting with Mercedes and Williams fighting with Rb and Sauber for the rest points.

mark p
15th April 2015, 22:34
:thumb Well said. Those clowns from Woking are always full of it. Watching them crawling at the back is just priceless, second best thing, behind seeing Ferrari winning.

Same in everything they do. 2007 RD said no way anyone cheated in his team only to admit McLaren employees cheated. The spin created this year with people somehow thinking a team in huge decline were going to challenge only to be 3 seconds off the pace. That they are making huge steps forward but 3.5 seconds off pole 2 races running. They can only get better from here but current situation is a disgrace. Ferrari had issues in 2012 but McLaren beat them hands down for poor performance.

The road cars. 12c will beat 458 all ends up. 90 percent of magazines prefered the Ferrari which also beats 12c on lap times in nearly all independent tests.

P1. Beat by Pirsche 2 times same day same time. On 1 occasion McLaren forced the magazine to delay the article so they could come back with a different car on stickier tyres to post a faster lap with a stipulation Porsche could not attend. 2nd test they used 2 sets of tyres to Porsche one and still lost. La Ferrari on worn tyres beat both same place same time.

The Nurburing lap time they had a magazine with them and helicopter for filming. When all done said no lap time released as did not want to encourage Nurburing laptimes as was dangerous. Said under 7 minutes honest but doubtful got close to Porsche.

They are full of it. I would not mind if they left F1 using the excuse as per P1 that no point pushing eachother for speed its dangerous. Their lead driver did struggle at Barvelona test on turn 3 at a relative slow speed. That was another case of their pr bs.

PURE PASSION
16th April 2015, 00:01
2nd test they used 2 sets of tyres to Porsche one and still lost. La Ferrari on worn tyres beat both same place same time.
.
when did this test with all 3 happened??
Any links-infos??

Sriharsha
16th April 2015, 02:51
Sebastian on Fernando and Lewis.

Asked by French daily L'Equipe who the German considered the best driver he has raced against since his F1 debut, Vettel clearly set apart the man he replaced at Ferrari

The driver who gave me the most trouble in the championship was undoubtedly Fernando [Alonso]. In 2010 and 2012, it was really close. We also enjoyed a few great battles these past two years, like at Monza

But Vettel was also quick to single out Lewis Hamilton. "I had a heard lot about Lewis when he was in karting but I had never competed against him before reaching F1. And it's a pleasure to race against him today

wickedf1
16th April 2015, 04:05
They are funny. Biggest joke in F1 this year. However their pr spin is awesome, if 5hey could design cars as well as they spin stories knowone would catch them. They convinced that ex Ferrari driver to join by talking rubbish then when they realised how bad they are they have made the British media and fans believe it was expected and they will soon be a force. Complete rubbish like their road cars actually. If you can translate"All talk then lose" into latin that should be their motto.

"Multa enim loquela, amittere multum"

aroutis
16th April 2015, 08:03
This has to be the turnaround for Kimi...from now on i expect him to beat consistently Vettel.


Expect to be disappointed then :-)

I honestly could not care less who is in front, as long as he's a Ferrari driver.

Alonso14
16th April 2015, 10:31
Sebastian on Fernando and Lewis.


But Vettel was also quick to single out Lewis Hamilton. "I had a heard lot about Lewis when he was in karting but I had never competed against him before reaching F1. And it's a pleasure to race against him today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDkK8a4jHZ8

stefa
16th April 2015, 11:08
I honestly could not care less who is in front, as long as he's a Ferrari driver.

:thumb:clap

F1 Dream Team
16th April 2015, 11:52
http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/522291/Update_Power_unit_elements_used_so_far/

12:03 – Formula 1 has tested engine manufacturers new and old over the opening three rounds of the 2015 season. GPUpdate.net provides an update on the power unit elements drivers have used so far.

ICE / TC / MGU-H / MGU-K / ES / CE
Mercedes / Lewis Hamilton (1 1 1 1 1 2)
Mercedes / Nico Rosberg (1 1 1 1 1 1)
Red Bull-Renault / Daniel Ricciardo (3 2 2 2 1 2)
Red Bull-Renault / Daniil Kvyat (2 1 1 1 1 2)
Williams-Mercedes / Felipe Massa (1 1 1 1 1 1)
Williams-Mercedes / Valtteri Bottas (1 1 1 1 1 1)
Ferrari / Sebastian Vettel (1 1 1 1 1 1)
Ferrari / Kimi Räikkönen (1 1 1 1 1 1)
McLaren-Honda / Fernando Alonso (2 3 3 2 2 2)
McLaren-Honda / Jenson Button (2 3 3 2 1 1)
Force India-Mercedes / Nico Hülkenberg (1 1 1 1 1 2)
Force India-Mercedes / Sergio Pérez (1 1 1 1 1 1)
Toro Rosso-Renault / Max Verstappen (2 1 2 1 2 2)
Toro Rosso-Renault / Carlos Sainz Jr. (2 2 2 1 2 2)
Lotus-Mercedes / Romain Grosjean (1 1 1 1 1 1)
Lotus-Mercedes / Pastor Maldonado (1 1 1 1 1 1)
Marussia-Ferrari / Will Stevens (2 2 2 2 1 2)
Marussia-Ferrari / Roberto Merhi (2 2 2 2 1 2)
Sauber-Ferrari / Marcus Ericsson (1 1 1 1 1 1)
Sauber-Ferrari / Felipe Nasr (1 1 1 1 1 1)

Engine elements: ICE = Internal Combustion Engine / TC = Turbo Charger / MGU-H = Motor Generator Unit - Heat / MGU-K = Motor Generator Unit - Kinetic / ES = Energy Store / CE = Control Electronics

FIA regulation details:
- Each driver can use four of each of the six power unit components during a season and any combination of them may be fitted to a car at any one time

- Should a driver use more than four of any one of the elements during a season, a grid penalty will be imposed at the first event each additional element is used

The first time a 5th of any of the elements is used - 10-place grid penalty
The first time a 5th of any of the other elements is used - five-place grid penalty
Process repeats itself through 6th elements and so on

- If a grid penalty is imposed, and the driver's grid position is such that the full penalty cannot be applied, the remainder of the penalty will be applied in the form of a time penalty during the race

1 to 5 grid places untaken - five-second time penalty
6 to 10 grid places untaken - 10-second time penalty
11 to 20 grid places untaken - drive-through penalty
Over 20 grid places untaken - 10-second stop/go penalty

mark p
16th April 2015, 12:30
when did this test with all 3 happened??
Any links-infos??

Evo car magazine at Anglesey. Ferrari belonged to a guy thats done vmax events in uk. He took the car along a day after a track day. He released the time in an internet forum, the magazine was not allowed to publish it only saying the Ferrari had nothing to worry about the other cars in the article. The others were factory supported the Ferrari was on worn tyres and a customer car no Ferrari personel present.

Nero Horse
16th April 2015, 14:27
Eyes will be on the skies on Thursday as the Formula 1 world pushes through the Bahrain paddock gates, temperatures in the upper-thirties celcius are forecast in the island Kingdom, which will be music to the ears of Ferrari and their tifosi.

Mercedes bounced back a week ago with a one-two finish, but that was in chilly China. In the searing Malaysian sun, it was Ferrari’s Sebastian Vettel who shone brightest.

“We can certainly do something more in the hotter temperatures,” the Vettel is quoted by SID news agency ahead of Bahrain, a night race.

Mercedes still has the downforce and power edge, but the reigning world champions have more difficulty than Ferrari in managing the tyres once the temperature rises.

An engineer for the German marque told Auto Motor und Sport: “The next two races in Bahrain and Barcelona could be difficult for us again.”

Boss Toto Wolff agrees: “Ferrari will be a danger for us on any circuit where they can use other strategies due to their good tyre management.”

http://www.grandprix247.com/2015/04/16/bahrain-heat-expected-to-favour-ferrari/

F1 Dream Team
16th April 2015, 14:32
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/button-admits-engine-not-mclaren-s-only-problem/?

Jenson Button says McLaren's problems are not just with the Honda engine, the Briton admitting the team needs to improve its car in all areas.

While the Woking-based team has struggled with power unit-related issues so far, Button says the car would not be running at the front even if the Japanese engine was stronger.

The Briton admits the McLaren is also lacking downforce.

"We still need to improve in many different areas. We are still very low on downforce," said Button.

"The efficiency of the car, and the driveability is very good, but we are still lacking downforce. But we know that. When you that base is very good because then you can start adding more downforce.

"I'm hoping we do in the next few races. Obviously if we had more power we'd be more competitive but we'd still not be competitive enough to fight in front.

"So there's areas we need to improve. Every area needs to be improved."

Button, however, remains optimistic that McLaren will take a significant step forward once the European season starts.

He feels the team has more room for improvement than many of its rivals.

"When you feel that you don't have enough downforce you see more issues with the car. When you add downforce it sort of covers those issues," he said.

"So in a way it's good to find the issues that you have and work around them, so when you have the downforce you'd sorted out the issues already, and hopefully we are going to benefit massively from adding downforce.

"It takes time, but I think there's more for us to gain than a lot of other people.

"I think in Barcelona we'll see a good step."

Nero Horse
16th April 2015, 15:05
Weather forecast for Bahrain, Sakhir...

http://i.imgur.com/I7oso8T.jpg

PURE PASSION
16th April 2015, 15:21
Evo car magazine at Anglesey. Ferrari belonged to a guy thats done vmax events in uk. He took the car along a day after a track day. He released the time in an internet forum, the magazine was not allowed to publish it only saying the Ferrari had nothing to worry about the other cars in the article. The others were factory supported the Ferrari was on worn tyres and a customer car no Ferrari personel present.

Thanks man!!!!
That is something a waited for some time because i was a bit disappointed that Ferrari didnt want to make a test with all 3 and they didnt allow a customer to di it!!So ever Ferrari hater took the apportunity to say that its a crap car and slower then the other 2 thats why this policy od Ferrari!!!!
Now im waiting some infos like this to go public in some way and shut the mouth if all this Ferrari haters!!!!!!

fronaldo
16th April 2015, 16:45
According to AMuS, We might use 2nd engine in Bahrain because of some cracks found in engine block..

darkchild
16th April 2015, 17:48
Thats rumored...Hopefully we bring token upgrade because this makes little sense. If Barcelona/Canada were roadmaps for engine update, then we are effectivly going to use 2nd engine in Bahrein and then 3rd one in Barcelona/Canada already next week. Kinda sounds like bs. I think its bigger chance for it to be token updated engine.

Edit.

Ok reading it twitter that Ferrari already denied that they will be using 2nd unit or that there are cracks on engine block.

SilverSpeed
16th April 2015, 18:18
Isn't this a night race so temp will be lower after all...

Kristof_F40
16th April 2015, 18:42
I thought first engine update would be in Barcelona?

NickEice
16th April 2015, 18:45
Isn't this a night race so temp will be lower after all...

Will still be warmer than China even in the middle of the night.

It is a track that is hard on the rear tires due to traction events and abrasive surface.

Tyre deg will be much higher than China. As much as Malaysia though? That is the question.

Nero Horse
16th April 2015, 19:18
Thanks man!!!!
That is something a waited for some time because i was a bit disappointed that Ferrari didnt want to make a test with all 3 and they didnt allow a customer to di it!!So ever Ferrari hater took the apportunity to say that its a crap car and slower then the other 2 thats why this policy od Ferrari!!!!
Now im waiting some infos like this to go public in some way and shut the mouth if all this Ferrari haters!!!!!!

Who cares what the pathetic haters say! To hell with them! I stopped caring about what the haters say about Ferrari long time ago. Success and greatness always brings jealous haters, sad but true.

http://i.imgur.com/7U1xM27.jpg :lou

Nero Horse
16th April 2015, 19:29
Edit.

Ok reading it twitter that Ferrari already denied that they will be using 2nd unit or that there are cracks on engine block.

Where on twitter did you read that?

darkchild
16th April 2015, 19:46
He deleted it unfortunately so we will have to see how it unfolds.

Ilsan
16th April 2015, 20:12
The account that posted & deleted 'Ferrari denying'(http://twishort.com/lCcic :-P) retweeted this.


@RoboCoP_G: They tell me that if Ferrari will use the second Power Unit in Bahrain (not yet decided), the third Power Unit will be postponed. Postponed in Canada GP or nearby.

(From the same account) "Small cracks had emerged after the last test in Barcelona. This wouldn't be a new problem."

Another interesting quotes

@Gianlu_DAle: Marchionne "I think that when we'll return to Monza the car will have the fundamental changes that will allow us to compete with Mercedes. I hope to see progress already tomorrow during the free practice.
:Hmm

Gianlu27
16th April 2015, 20:38
He deleted it unfortunately so we will have to see how it unfolds.

Hi, I'm the guy of the tweet :lol

The news wasn't official (sky sport italy said it), but is what Ferrari wants to say... Probably they will use the "excuse" of changing the engine to alternate them :)

darkchild
16th April 2015, 21:31
Hey man you are great! Always first with the news!

Giallo 550
17th April 2015, 01:33
I think it would make the most sense for Ferrari fans to want to see Sebastian in front of Kimi, because he is the future of the team. Nothing against Kimi, but aren't him and Button the oldest drivers on the grid? Anyway, here's to hoping we see a Ferrari 1-2 this weekend with Mercedes eating its tires and more humble pie.

wickedf1
17th April 2015, 02:05
I think it would make the most sense for Ferrari fans to want to see Sebastian in front of Kimi, because he is the future of the team. Nothing against Kimi, but aren't him and Button the oldest drivers on the grid? Anyway, here's to hoping we see a Ferrari 1-2 this weekend with Mercedes eating its tires and more humble pie.

I am a fan of both so I want to see them race, not put one falsely before the other one. Also, Sebastian said that he wants to race for position not to be put in front. Plus Kimi wants that too. Plus Arrivabene said he don't want to hear nothing about team orders. So I think it is good we will have fun racing with them both. :thumb

Welcome Gianlu27! Yes I enjoy your tweet because I don't read Italian! Thank you for the many updates!

gazoz
17th April 2015, 03:12
Any idea what the time was?? or where we can see it ? thx
Evo car magazine at Anglesey. Ferrari belonged to a guy thats done vmax events in uk. He took the car along a day after a track day. He released the time in an internet forum, the magazine was not allowed to publish it only saying the Ferrari had nothing to worry about the other cars in the article. The others were factory supported the Ferrari was on worn tyres and a customer car no Ferrari personel present.

GreenTree
17th April 2015, 04:21
I think it would make the most sense for Ferrari fans to want to see Sebastian in front of Kimi, because he is the future of the team. Nothing against Kimi, but aren't him and Button the oldest drivers on the grid? Anyway, here's to hoping we see a Ferrari 1-2 this weekend with Mercedes eating its tires and more humble pie.

So now Grid & Finishing Order is gonna be decided by Driver's age and not what they manage to do with their talent and machinery?

It'll be great if people who ask for such things stop calling themselves Fans of Racing.

Winter
17th April 2015, 04:36
I think it would make the most sense for Ferrari fans to want to see Sebastian in front of Kimi, because he is the future of the team. Nothing against Kimi, but aren't him and Button the oldest drivers on the grid? Anyway, here's to hoping we see a Ferrari 1-2 this weekend with Mercedes eating its tires and more humble pie.

I don't need anybody to tell me which driver I wish to be in front.

Fer12
17th April 2015, 05:14
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/anglesey_coastal.html

This is what you guys must be talking about.

F1NAC
17th April 2015, 08:05
You can try in youtube laguna seca 918vsP1 driven by man who helds track record therE. porsche was faster

CurdaNeta
17th April 2015, 08:20
Look what my boss just gave me!
6322

fratelliferrari
17th April 2015, 08:33
Look what my boss just gave me!
6322

That's great! Enjoy it :thumb

farid-baku
17th April 2015, 09:07
sf15-t will Ferrari use new PU at Bahrain GP# or not nobody answer?

darkchild
17th April 2015, 09:21
Nobody knows, we will have to wait and see.

gazoz
17th April 2015, 09:41
thankyou
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/anglesey_coastal.html

This is what you guys must be talking about.

Giallo 550
17th April 2015, 11:55
So now Grid & Finishing Order is gonna be decided by Driver's age and not what they manage to do with their talent and machinery?

It'll be great if people who ask for such things stop calling themselves Fans of Racing.

Where did I say anything anything about age dictating decisions? "In front" meant "outperforming." No Ferrari fan wants to see the teams latest signing turn out to be a dud. For the record, I only support team orders when a championship is on the line.


I don't need anybody to tell me which driver I wish to be in front.

Nobody's telling you to wish anything.

F1 Dream Team
17th April 2015, 12:01
I think it would make the most sense for Ferrari fans to want to see Sebastian in front of Kimi, because he is the future of the team. Nothing against Kimi, but aren't him and Button the oldest drivers on the grid?


Why would it make most sense we've had 3 races to date n what age to do with anything ?

Giallo 550
17th April 2015, 12:03
I think it would make the most sense for Ferrari fans to want to see Sebastian in front of Kimi, because he is the future of the team. Nothing against Kimi, but aren't him and Button the oldest drivers on the grid?


Why would it make most sense we've had 3 races to date n what age to do with anything ?

See above.

F1 Dream Team
17th April 2015, 12:06
so u saying if kimi won its no good to Ferrari cos he's old n not future ? any team mate can be beaten in a yr doesn't make em a dud

F1 Dream Team
17th April 2015, 12:08
It's a bit early for much driver market speculation, but Ted Kravitz reports that the word on the Bahrain desert street is that Ferrari are poised to take up the option they have on Kimi Raikkonen's services for 2016. The Finn's certainly been a reborn force this year, even if he is yet to beat new team-mate Sebastian Vettel. But he's certainly happier than he was during last season alongside Alonso.

Giallo 550
17th April 2015, 12:44
so u saying if kimi won its no good to Ferrari cos he's old n not future ? any team mate can be beaten in a yr doesn't make em a dud

Tell that to Rosberg. :lol Clearly, if Kimi won the championship in the short term, it would be good for Ferrari. My point was that moving forward, I would want to see whoever is racing against Kimi outperform him, since he wouldn't be a downgrade, which is not a slag on Kimi.

S1000RR
17th April 2015, 12:48
I'm confused now; here i've read that the engine showed some cracks after the last Barcelona test, now F1today is reporting that the engine showed cracks before bahrain and suggesting we are going to switch to 2nd PU

ManFromMilan
17th April 2015, 13:01
Doesn't matter why, but great to see Ferrari one and two:clap

gvera
17th April 2015, 14:08
Yes, Ferrai will use new ICE:

http://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/17.04_-_technical_report_doc7_-_new_internal_combustion_engine.pdf

Giallo 550
17th April 2015, 14:14
Yes, Ferrai will use new ICE:

http://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/17.04_-_technical_report_doc7_-_new_internal_combustion_engine.pdf

Do we know if there are any gains in performance with the new engine?

gvera
17th April 2015, 14:33
Do we know if there are any gains in performance with the new engine?

Not a single clue

Winter
17th April 2015, 14:35
Do we know if there are any gains in performance with the new engine?

New engine will be the same as the old one.

Gianlu27
17th April 2015, 14:41
Do we know if there are any gains in performance with the new engine?

This unit is the same of the one we used in the first races of the season.. Surely will be better (but don't think that it will be a super gain) because these engine are new :)





Thanks to all :)

Nero Horse
17th April 2015, 14:51
This unit is the same of the one we used in the first races of the season.. Surely will be better (but don't think that it will be a super gain) because these engine are new :)





Thanks to all :)

Thank you for keeping us up to date with your informative tweets. :thumb

Oh and welcome to TSN. :wave

Sriharsha
17th April 2015, 15:02
This unit is the same of the one we used in the first races of the season.. Surely will be better (but don't think that it will be a super gain) because these engine are new :)




Thanks to all :)


Good to have you Gianlu. Are we going to have big Turbo for the next update in spain?

Gianlu27
17th April 2015, 15:33
The plan was that. This story of the craks on the engine is a big problem for the development...


Thanks Nero Horse :-)

Nero Horse
17th April 2015, 20:47
Full transcript of the team principals press conference: http://www.fia.com/news/2015-bahrain-grand-prix-friday-press-conference

Nero Horse
17th April 2015, 21:45
Seb's spare helmet...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCzlyRDWAAERjlF.jpg:large

:rotfl

fronaldo
17th April 2015, 21:59
The plan was that. This story of the craks on the engine is a big problem for the development...


Thanks Nero Horse :-)
With this cracks problem..are big update in Spain still going according to plan Gianlu?..And great to have you here in TSN..Welcome

Nero Horse
18th April 2015, 13:35
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CC3lC_DVEAAJTL_.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CC3m91IWMAAfVk6.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CC4FIEgUIAAHMet.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCy8x9yUgAEyZgW.jpg:large

SilverSpeed
18th April 2015, 15:52
Anyone has high res versions of those night shots with parks?

Paulpg87
18th April 2015, 16:41
With this cracks problem..are big update in Spain still going according to plan Gianlu?..And great to have you here in TSN..Welcome

postponed to canada

Ste
18th April 2015, 16:43
I can only presume they postponed it to make sure it was 100% ready, given that we are already fairly competitive with the current engine.

Nero Horse
18th April 2015, 16:50
Yeah, better to postpone it a little and make sure that everything is working properly rather than rush things and risk having reliability issues. We are very competitive at the moment so it shouldn't be too big of a problem to wait for two more races before bringing these updates.

Gianlu27
18th April 2015, 19:22
With this cracks problem..are big update in Spain still going according to plan Gianlu?..And great to have you here in TSN..Welcome

Thanks :)

As I said, is delayed to Canada :)

cokata
18th April 2015, 19:40
In any case Barca is much more of a chassis circuit than power unit, monaco is even more extreme in that regard. Canada and Austria are next and they both put a lot of weight on the PU performance.

vagos
18th April 2015, 20:06
We look good for,the race tomorrow .... Let's see!

cokata
18th April 2015, 20:06
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Fabulous
18th April 2015, 20:09
Should be a great race tomorrow. Forza Ferrari! :ferrarifl

Nero Horse
18th April 2015, 20:31
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paolo lalli
19th April 2015, 02:19
Hope the mercs are ready for a ferrari cheese and procutto sandwich getting closer and closer to merc all the time .

Fabulous
19th April 2015, 05:14
Hoping for a clean start.

Black Adder
19th April 2015, 05:28
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Those last 3 pictures says it all. Kimi walking to Seb's car, taking off his gloves to congratulate him. Seb standing up, taking off his gloves to say something back. Let's keep that drivers' team for 2016/2017.

KimiBot
19th April 2015, 07:36
Those last 3 pictures says it all. Kimi walking to Seb's car, taking off his gloves to congratulate him. Seb standing up, taking off his gloves to say something back. Let's keep that drivers' team for 2016/2017.

Hamilton is next Ferrari driver, I don`t know if that is gonna happen 2016 or 2017 but he is coming to Ferrari.
That is for sure.
Ferrari is always taking the best drivers, and that`s how it is.

IulianFerrari
19th April 2015, 13:43
Hamilton is next Ferrari driver, I don`t know if that is gonna happen 2016 or 2017 but he is coming to Ferrari.
That is for sure.
Ferrari is always taking the best drivers, and that`s how it is.
I don't want to Hamilton at Ferrari, just like no "gangstas" or rednecks at the theater.

cokata
19th April 2015, 13:51
Hamilton is the best driver we could get right now. I too don't like him with the helmet off too much, but with when he is the car there is no denying it he is brilliant. He hasn't put a foot wrong this year. Always on pole, quicker than his team mate every race, hasn't made a bad start this season, and the way he was controlling the race in china was spectacular (as was the way how quickly compared to Nico he overtook the cars infront of him after they pitted during the SC in Malaysia).

If we can get Verstappen, than it would probably better for the long term, but as long as there are no problems with Seb, and ferrari manage them well, i feel he would be a big help to us.

Nand0Nand0
19th April 2015, 13:52
If - and it's a big if - Lewis did come to drive for Ferrari, after he wins his first race for us, most of his naysayers will all find a reason to like him.

cokata
19th April 2015, 14:03
It would also say a lot about him if he comes here from the clearly strongest team right now. I doubt that merc would offer him less money then we would offer, if we were interested.

vetalo
19th April 2015, 14:03
I don't want to Hamilton at Ferrari, just like no "gangstas" or rednecks at the theater.

Why can't you leave his personal life from his professional life. just like Alonso good car or bad car they give thier 100%. if Ferrari wants him so be it. I never really Vettel, but once he put on the red driving suit he becomes my favorite drive. For me I support Ferrari becuase drivers comes and go but Ferrari remains Ferrari.

FerrariF60
19th April 2015, 14:10
If - and it's a big if - Lewis did come to drive for Ferrari, after he wins his first race for us, most of his naysayers will all find a reason to like him.

yeah mate, i couldn't have said it any better myself

one has to look at all the naysayers when Vettel came to Ferrari; most of us here (including me that is) did not want him in RED at all, but as soon as he's had a podium in australia, WIN in malaysia, another podium in China.....everyone seems to have change their tunes....and that is ME included

we shall live and see my fellow Scuderia FANS

FerrariF60
19th April 2015, 14:12
Why can't you leave his personal life from his professional life. just like Alonso good car or bad car they give thier 100%. if Ferrari wants him so be it. I never really Vettel, but once he put on the red driving suit he becomes my favorite drive. For me I support Ferrari becuase drivers comes and go but Ferrari remains Ferrari.

i'm with you on this one....same here, FERRARI first then drivers second
if they bring lots of WINS and Championships for us, then that is just fine with me....NO matter who drives for us

Nomore
19th April 2015, 17:24
Expect to be disappointed then :-)

In all honesty i'm really disappointed, i would like to be wrong but unfortunately...

Have a nice week Greig

Greig
19th April 2015, 17:26
In all honesty i'm really disappointed, i would like to be wrong but unfortunately...

Have a nice week Greig

So 1 race is consistently beating Seb? oh dear.

Nomore
19th April 2015, 17:35
So 1 race is consistently beating Seb? oh dear.

I made 2 assumption in my initial post..

1. the first i was proven to be right
2. the second we will know by the end of the year...(but i'm pretty sure about it)

you don't agree in this with me ?

Greig
19th April 2015, 17:39
I made 2 assumption in my initial post..

1. the first i was proven to be right
2. the second we will know by the end of the year...(but i'm pretty sure about it)

you don't agree in this with me ?

1 race is not beating Seb consistently as you said though is it?

Nomore
19th April 2015, 17:44
1 race is not beating Seb consistently as you said though is it?

i said this : "This has to be the turnaround for Kimi...from now on i expect him to beat consistently Vettel."

yes this was the turnaround, and yes i expect him to beat vettel consistently

Greig
19th April 2015, 17:46
i said this : "This has to be the turnaround for Kimi...from now on i expect him to beat consistently Vettel."

yes this was the turnaround, and yes i expect him to beat vettel consistently

Well if he does manage to beat Seb consistently come back and try and score a internet point against me, till then it's probably best to not be so childish :-)

Seb was well on course to beating Kimi again today until he made a small mistake, I am not seeing much of a turnaround TBH.

vecchiasignora
19th April 2015, 17:51
Hamilton won't be joining us.He is 30 years old already. When Alonso came in he was 28 - 29 i think, when kimi came in he was 27 - 28 ..
and vettel now he is 27.

ALO
19th April 2015, 19:23
Hamilton won't be joining us.He is 30 years old already. When Alonso came in he was 28 - 29 i think, when kimi came in he was 27 - 28 ..
and vettel now he is 27.

yes HAM is happy at MERC

and also HAM is happy in my tummy that I just ate my sandwich :rotfl

Winter
19th April 2015, 20:22
Well if he does manage to beat Seb consistently come back and try and score a internet point against me, till then it's probably best to not be so childish :-)

Seb was well on course to beating Kimi again today until he made a small mistake, I am not seeing much of a turnaround TBH.

Really?

hrc5555
19th April 2015, 21:01
Well if he does manage to beat Seb consistently come back and try and score a internet point against me, till then it's probably best to not be so childish :-)

Seb was well on course to beating Kimi again today until he made a small mistake, I am not seeing much of a turnaround TBH.

Ricciardo manage to beat Vettel consistently. You think Raikkonen is no match for Ricciardo so he is not abel to repeat what Ricciardo did!?

Greig
19th April 2015, 21:07
Ricciardo manage to beat Vettel consistently. You think Raikkonen is no match for Ricciardo so he is not abel to repeat what Ricciardo did!?

I think apples are nearly like oranges.

KimiBot
20th April 2015, 05:48
Kimi Raikkonen: “After a difficult year last year and a beginning of the season that was a bit unlucky, it’s great to be back on the podium. I have mixed emotions, it’s a great feeling to be back, but we want to be on the top. The start was really good , I managed to pass Nico, but then I lost the position and there I lost a bit of time. The strategy was perfect, we did the right calls and the right tyre choice , I was happy with the car , we kept up a good speed through the whole race. In the last laps I was getting closer and closer and could see Hamilton, but the race was at its end, we would have needed more laps to try to do something. I think we are still a little bit behind the Mercedes but in some circuits and some conditions we ca be very competitive, especially in the race. Today we did our best , we have to be happy with the result , we did the maximum and took some good points for the team. We keep improving step by step, we just have to keep working doing the same things in the same direction,and I’m sure we’ll get there.”

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Sebastian Vettel: “It didn’t seem to be the perfect day for me. I couldn’t get into the rhythm and lost positions when it mattered not to lose them for the final result. In general, I struggled a bit with the rear end and exiting the corners, which made me vulnerable to Nico’s attacks and prevented me from getting as close as I needed to Valtteri to chase him down the straight with DRS. Towards the end, I was struggling to get past in the fight against the Williams. When it was important to be quick, I always seemed to get stuck in traffic, and thus damaged my tyres. Overall, though, I think it has been another very positive weekend. It’s s shame I damaged the front wing in the race and I had to come in for a new nose, otherwise I think fourth place would have been secured, or even third. Anyway, that’s how it went. I was trying to push, and when you’re following another car you obviously lose a lot of downforce. With hindsight, it was probably more than I expected. I think I tried a bit too hard and ran wide. On the other hand, I am very happy for Kimi. I’ts good that he was able to pass Nico (Rosberg) towards the end. For the team, it’s obviously a great result. It’s a long way to go for the season and up to this point we can be very, very happy. It’s still a big surprise how good we are but there’s still a bit of a gap.”

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Maurizio Arrivabene: “I am really happy for Kimi: today I can officially state that he’s back. He showed what a race animal he is, and if he had had a few more laps perhaps… Also, I am happy for the team, because they worked really well. Sebastian made a couple of mistakes today, one at the beginning, which forced us to change his race strategy, whereas in the case of Kimi we followed our plans. He was not totally convinced about it at a point, but showed a great deal of discipline in following instructions from the pit-wall. As for Seb, he actually made something wrong, otherwise we could have had two drivers on the rostrum; but he’s a human being as we all are. He’s a fantastic driver and let’s not forget now what he has already achieved so far. I wish to thank everybody back at Maranello, because they were able to work on the engine development, but also on every single component, achieving over three months what normally would have required twice as much. I can’t tell if we are going to catch the Mercedes, but I do like the idea of putting some pressure on them. Today we were aware of the gap between them and ourselves, and that required an aggressive strategy. Having said that, with regard to the Friday log runs where we had showed a good pace, the temperature was much lower today, and we had to react accordingly.”

http://formula1.ferrari.com/en/

KimiBot
20th April 2015, 05:50
http://static.formula1.ferrari.com/imgresize-cache/fee1d76577b725fdab997502626d368f.jpg

Ferrarichamp
20th April 2015, 09:18
so that's 41 fastest laps for Kimi :thumb

SashAlex
20th April 2015, 09:50
See, even with a still inferior car, a bit of pressure on Mercedes, and they are prone to make mistakes here and there. Last year it was way too easy for them, way too easy. They could do 3 stops with others 2 and still win during some specific GPs, make mistakes and not suffer from that as much as this time around with Ferrari right behind them to capitalize. It's getting obvious that they will put all their efforts to win the title on Hamilton and keep Rosberg as a shield as much as possible, if things stay the same with Hamilton clearly dominating the team battle. They even did it this time. It was clear as sky that Rosberg wouldn't be allowed to pass Hamilton if possible in normal circumstances. They could have fun last year, as mistakes weren't as punishable as now. They know Ferrari is pushing hard and with the upcoming engine update, things might get even closer. As I said, to beat Rosberg, pressure is needed, as sooner or later he folds. To beat Hamilton we need a faster package than the still great and fast one we have.

Great race overall. Happy for Kimi! Sebastian probably forgot at times that he's not having anymore the blown diffuser to help him out. Clear mistakes, but it happens. Let's hope he's gonna regroup himself and be stronger than ever.

PURE PASSION
20th April 2015, 11:01
6328
:clap:haha:

Rob
20th April 2015, 11:29
https://vimeo.com/125410681

JohnDelinger
20th April 2015, 12:00
At least we know when the chips are down and the pressure is on, Gerhard will show the tenacity of a true champion.

KimiBot
20th April 2015, 12:01
so that's 41 fastest laps for Kimi :thumb

yes, one more to beat Prost

1. Michael Schumacher, 77
2. Alain Prost and Kimi Raikkonen, 41
4. Nigel Mansell, 30
5. Jim Clark, 28
6. Mika Hakkinen, 25
7. Niki Lauda and Sebastian Vettel, 24
9. Juan Manuel Fangio and Nelson Piquet 23
11. Lewis Hamilton, 22

F1 Dream Team
20th April 2015, 12:08
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns30605.html?

Allison signature helping Raikkonen



Designer James Allison was a key to Kimi Raikkonen's 2014 resurgence, the Finnish driver's manager admits.

Raikkonen struggled notably to match former teammate Fernando Alonso last year, bringing into serious question his future at the Maranello team.

But the 35-year-old is returning to form this year, and on Sunday he ended a long podium drought in Bahrain and almost challenged Lewis Hamilton's Mercedes for victory.

It revived memories of 2012 and 2013, when Raikkonen shone at the wheel of a James Allison-inked Lotus after his rallying and Nascar sojourn.

Now, Allison is leading a resurgent Ferrari's technical team.

"Yes, this Ferrari and the Lotuses in Kimi's time have obvious similarities," Raikkonen's manager Steve Robertson smiled as he told the Finnish newspaper Turun Sanomat.

"Both are good with the tyres. This Ferrari has the same signature as the Lotuses," he acknowledged.

"Kimi drives at his best when he can feel the front of the car very well," Robertson added.

(GMM)

Black Adder
20th April 2015, 13:46
yes, one more to beat Prost

1. Michael Schumacher, 77
2. Alain Prost and Kimi Raikkonen, 41
4. Nigel Mansell, 30
5. Jim Clark, 28
6. Mika Hakkinen, 25
7. Niki Lauda and Sebastian Vettel, 24
9. Juan Manuel Fangio and Nelson Piquet 23
11. Lewis Hamilton, 22

I am a Kimi fan, but I honestly couldn't believe this list of amount of fastest laps. Kimi is 2nd in that list. Why are Seb, Alonso and Ham not higher in that list? It is a honest question.....

KimiBot
20th April 2015, 14:26
I am a Kimi fan, but I honestly couldn't believe this list of amount of fastest laps. Kimi is 2nd in that list. Why are Seb, Alonso and Ham not higher in that list? It is a honest question.....

Ham and Seb has still time, Kimi has been longer F1 driver than these two.

Red is Best
20th April 2015, 14:41
https://vimeo.com/125410681

Is it me or does Hamilton look like a very annoying self-absorbed kind of person?

wickedf1
20th April 2015, 16:43
Is it me or does Hamilton look like a very annoying self-absorbed kind of person?

He does, but I think he is trying to be funny. If you see it in that way, he is comical. Sebastian seem more relaxed and happy with himself as a man. It is a good interviews.