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F1NAC
10th May 2015, 11:11
Didn't see anyone opened.

Let's hope for good race and not to be so far away from Mercedes

Forza Ferrari!!!

KimiBot
10th May 2015, 11:16
first race this year I am pessimistic, max P3 & P4, and hopefully I am wrong and we get better result.

stefa
10th May 2015, 11:16
I fear this is going to be one hell of a boring race...

FerrariSteve
10th May 2015, 11:22
I fear this is going to be one hell of a boring race...

Me too :(

vcs316
10th May 2015, 11:24
I fear this is going to be one hell of a boring race...

+10000

FerrariF60
10th May 2015, 11:29
I fear this is going to be one hell of a boring race...

yeah, i'm afraid of that too...the mercs' seem untouchable here
they'll surely lock 1-2 by the end, UNLESS they get hindered by reliabilty issues.....OR if Luise tries his hard to pass nico and nico being hard headed TAKES them both out of the race....then the SAFETY car comes out to pick up the debris while Vettel leads to the FLAG

and there you have it.....A WIN FOR US.....
Winning in F1 is not optional for Ferrari. I

stefa
10th May 2015, 11:33
yeah, i'm afraid of that too...the mercs' seem untouchable here
they'll surely lock 1-2 by the end, UNLESS they get hindered by reliabilty issues.....OR if Luise tries his hard to pass nico and nico being hard headed TAKES them both out of the race....then the SAFETY car comes out to pick up the debris while Vettel leads to the FLAG

and there you have it.....A WIN FOR US.....
Winning in F1 is not optional for Ferrari. I

I like your scenario :-D

stefa
10th May 2015, 11:35
Marc Gene just said on German SKY that new package is better than the old one.
Updates are working, but Mercedes is way too strong...

stefa
10th May 2015, 11:38
Not too many post before the race...

KimiBot
10th May 2015, 11:39
Marc Gene just said on German SKY that new package is better than the old one.
Updates are working, but Mercedes is way too strong...

I really can`t see any improvement, but they have 2 test days next week, so maybe after that...

zamlatuljko
10th May 2015, 11:39
Ok I am woting for extremly good race! Think positive and will be positive outcome. I predict ferrari second and third poition. Maybe Win if we have little luck with 2 stops against 3 stops Merc.

Hornet
10th May 2015, 11:42
I really can`t see any improvement, but they have 2 test days next week, so maybe after that...

Maybe Ferrari did improve, but so did Merc as well. Merc will be developing their own car as well, and they would be miles ahead if Ferrari did not improve.

jpalmito
10th May 2015, 11:45
Each year barcelona Is a very boring race like monaco.
Canada Is a lot better.
3 and 4 for us i hope.

FerrariSteve
10th May 2015, 11:46
2 race threads is confusing me.. :/

fadyferrari
10th May 2015, 11:46
non of the links i know seem to be working:-s

elnano98
10th May 2015, 11:46
Link with exact time please?

KimiBot
10th May 2015, 11:47
Maybe Ferrari did improve, but so did Merc as well. Merc will be developing their own car as well, and they would be miles ahead if Ferrari did not improve.

yeah, but Williams getting closer too, so longer gap to Merc and Williams closer, so...

stefa
10th May 2015, 11:47
Ok I am woting for extremly good race! Think positive and will be positive outcome. I predict ferrari second and third poition. Maybe Win if we have little luck with 2 stops against 3 stops Merc.

I admire your optimism...

stefa
10th May 2015, 11:49
Link with exact time please?

http://f1.tfeed.net/live

If you mean on LT

Scuderia85
10th May 2015, 11:49
Forza ferrari
hope for a thrid and 4th place today :)

DJTaurus
10th May 2015, 11:52
Lot of praise from skysports for williams improvement...

Ed Harley
10th May 2015, 11:52
Let's get plenty of points and preferably a podium finish.

dpiatto
10th May 2015, 11:52
Kimi right in carbon zone again. Let's pray he makes the first few corners unscathed.

elnano98
10th May 2015, 11:52
http://f1.tfeed.net/live

If you mean on LT

No, i mean link stream, my stream is probably slower than reality

FerrariF60
10th May 2015, 11:52
Forza ferrari
hope for a thrid and 4th place today :)

Let me fix this for you....

let's hope for 3 and 4, but REALLY HOPE for a WIN and another podium finish for teh other RED car

FORZA FERRARI

fronaldo
10th May 2015, 11:52
Forza Ferrari..Lets go..:ferrarifl

mizf1
10th May 2015, 11:53
Lets hope for a good start.

FerrariSteve
10th May 2015, 11:54
Let's have a good start guys!! Fingers crossed

mirafiori
10th May 2015, 11:55
Did Kimi get a set of tyres back,???

mizf1
10th May 2015, 11:57
Did Kimi get a set of tyres back,???

I think Pirelli were going to give him a new set for the race

wacc
10th May 2015, 11:57
Forza Ferrari! :ferrarifl

mirafiori
10th May 2015, 11:58
I think Pirelli were going to give him a new set for the race

Hope so and cheers.

Hornet
10th May 2015, 11:58
Best of luck everyone

gjoko-mkd
10th May 2015, 11:59
http://www.sportcategory.com/a-2/4/168/a-256937.html

mizf1
10th May 2015, 12:00
I think Rosberg would prefer Vet to win then Ham if he can't take the win himself, so hopefully concentrates on Ham at the start with Vet having a clean run

mizf1
10th May 2015, 12:05
got Ham, come on

mizf1
10th May 2015, 12:05
On the helicopter shot it seemed like Vet had a poor start initially, good job by Kimi aswell

SinanOzerS
10th May 2015, 12:05
What a great start from both of our drivers.

fronaldo
10th May 2015, 12:06
Great start from our drivers especially Kimi..

fratelliferrari
10th May 2015, 12:06
Great ztart :-D

FerrariSteve
10th May 2015, 12:06
Awesome Seb!!! and Grrrreat passing from Kimi!!

mizf1
10th May 2015, 12:07
Lets overheat Hamiltons brakes now.:lol

LivingHitokiri
10th May 2015, 12:09
Wow, it seems the new upgrades are really making a difference, Sec is almost 1 second faster than Kimi.

sachin
10th May 2015, 12:10
LOL the Torro Rosso's are such flukes.:-D

NenoX
10th May 2015, 12:12
Anyone have live timing links? really wound want to see the times per sector

mizf1
10th May 2015, 12:12
AT this stage our race pace is much closer to mercs then it was on Friday

SinanOzerS
10th May 2015, 12:13
Anyone have live timing links? really wound want to see the times per sector

http://f1.tfeed.net/live

NenoX
10th May 2015, 12:13
Impossible to get close - Ham

FerrariF60
10th May 2015, 12:13
Impossible to get close - Ham

LET'S keep it that way

NenoX
10th May 2015, 12:14
http://f1.tfeed.net/live

Thank you!

mizf1
10th May 2015, 12:15
Kimi is almost 1 sec slower then Vet

NenoX
10th May 2015, 12:16
LET'S keep it that way

I guess it's pretty much how Seb was held back by Bottas in Bahrain.
More on aero loss due to turbulent air from following another car.

Schumiklub
10th May 2015, 12:18
Mercedes is way faster than us.

FerrariSteve
10th May 2015, 12:18
C'mon Kimi, close on Bottas

Schumiklub
10th May 2015, 12:22
We lose time in the last sector, the first two are on par with Mercedes at least at this point in the race.

sachin
10th May 2015, 12:23
Mercs are too quick...we are barely keeping Lewis behind.

stefa
10th May 2015, 12:23
3rd is max today....

mizf1
10th May 2015, 12:23
Ham might be coming in shortly according to Sky

NenoX
10th May 2015, 12:23
Ham is sooooo close now

mizf1
10th May 2015, 12:24
slow stop, hoprefully wheel is still loose

NenoX
10th May 2015, 12:24
Pit Error for Hamilton!

fratelliferrari
10th May 2015, 12:24
Good pitstop from Hammie :rotfl

bonzo
10th May 2015, 12:25
2sec loss for ham

paolo lalli
10th May 2015, 12:25
Its kimi vs botas this is important the big man is watching

mizf1
10th May 2015, 12:25
Maldonados rear wing is breaking apart

mizf1
10th May 2015, 12:26
mighty stop 2.3 for vettel

NenoX
10th May 2015, 12:26
Perfect stop for Seb

fratelliferrari
10th May 2015, 12:26
Well done pitcrew :clap

SinanOzerS
10th May 2015, 12:26
Our pit-stops are incredible this year.

FerrariSteve
10th May 2015, 12:26
lol Ham :D

Come on Pastor mate, you know what to do ;)

KimiBot
10th May 2015, 12:26
great stop

NenoX
10th May 2015, 12:26
Our pit-stops are incredible this year.

They have been consistent since last year! Woohoo!

bonzo
10th May 2015, 12:27
3sec advance for seb over ham

DJTaurus
10th May 2015, 12:27
So hamilton will overtake us on the next pitstop....

DIEK
10th May 2015, 12:28
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10410335_916971861697079_4770390667525293644_n.jpg ?oh=ea660bbc11c750e7b042420c653c420f&oe=55DAECAF&__gda__=1440020759_c763fe439e8814d785994229e285ed8 5

Maldonado! :rotfl

fratelliferrari
10th May 2015, 12:29
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10410335_916971861697079_4770390667525293644_n.jpg ?oh=ea660bbc11c750e7b042420c653c420f&oe=55DAECAF&__gda__=1440020759_c763fe439e8814d785994229e285ed8 5

Maldonado! :rotfl
:lol

bonzo
10th May 2015, 12:29
So hamilton will overtake us on the next pitstop....

Before, he is faster

NenoX
10th May 2015, 12:30
Seb just needs to hold on and keep Ham away. alternate strat for Kimi I believe

REDARMYSOJA
10th May 2015, 12:31
I'm surprised they allow that Lotus to continue. That rear wing breaks at speed and it's going to get very ugly.

REDARMYSOJA
10th May 2015, 12:32
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10410335_916971861697079_4770390667525293644_n.jpg ?oh=ea660bbc11c750e7b042420c653c420f&oe=55DAECAF&__gda__=1440020759_c763fe439e8814d785994229e285ed8 5

Maldonado! :rotfl


Those are the skulls of his victims on the front wing.

FerrariSteve
10th May 2015, 12:32
I'm surprised they allow that Lotus to continue. That rear wing breaks at speed and it's going to get very ugly.

Yes.. Scary

bonzo
10th May 2015, 12:33
Kimi will be on meds in the last stint, seems good decision

bonzo
10th May 2015, 12:34
Ham will overtake this lap

fronaldo
10th May 2015, 12:34
Hamilton so close to Vettel now

NenoX
10th May 2015, 12:35
1 more lap

FerrariSteve
10th May 2015, 12:35
Damn :(

KimiBot
10th May 2015, 12:35
Kimi will be on meds in the last stint, seems good decision

but he is slow?

icedeepan
10th May 2015, 12:35
We need to have an equivalent of "hammer time" for Seb..any suggestions? :-)

stefa
10th May 2015, 12:36
Hard time for SV

REDARMYSOJA
10th May 2015, 12:36
Hamilton on Plan B, not sure what that means but probably has something to do with running over Massa.

FerrariSteve
10th May 2015, 12:37
DRS sucks.. I hate it

REDARMYSOJA
10th May 2015, 12:37
We need to have an equivalent of "hammer time" for Seb..any suggestions? :-)

Finger Time?

DIEK
10th May 2015, 12:37
I'm surprised they allow that Lotus to continue. That rear wing breaks at speed and it's going to get very ugly.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEpP8w4WYAAdGq1.jpg:large

KimiBot
10th May 2015, 12:37
difficult track to overtake

SinanOzerS
10th May 2015, 12:39
This track should be used just to testing, not for the racing. Boring as hell !

NenoX
10th May 2015, 12:40
difficult track to overtake

works for seb

icedeepan
10th May 2015, 12:40
Seb is defending well here..getting his braking at turn 1 (the only real overtaking spot) absolutely right!

NenoX
10th May 2015, 12:42
Really getting excited for Kimi's strategy too. Hope he can pull-off another Bahrain, like his engineer said

mizf1
10th May 2015, 12:46
Alonso going to sleep, or brake failure

elnano98
10th May 2015, 12:46
Lol Alonso

bonzo
10th May 2015, 12:47
Why not use the hand brake?:lol

REDARMYSOJA
10th May 2015, 12:51
Why not use the hand brake?:lol

Didn't really look fast enough to need brakes.

LivingHitokiri
10th May 2015, 12:52
Kimi is the second fastest on the race only behind rosberg, the hards are having advantage after 13- 14 laps.

RedRebel40
10th May 2015, 12:52
They should go for a one stopper for kimi.

SinanOzerS
10th May 2015, 12:56
Why we didn't call Vettel to the pit ? Oh come on guys.

FerrariSteve
10th May 2015, 12:56
Awww Kimi, you could have held him back a couple of laps.

DJTaurus
10th May 2015, 12:57
What a boring race and we are just in the middle of it :P

SinanOzerS
10th May 2015, 12:57
1.29.9. Lol they're just so fast.

mizf1
10th May 2015, 12:58
we witching to a 2 topper for Vet? Let Hamilton kill his tyres

fronaldo
10th May 2015, 12:58
Below 1.30s from Ham..What are we doing for Vettel

FerrariF60
10th May 2015, 12:58
Why we didn't call Vettel to the pit ? Oh come on guys.

we may try teh 2 stopper with Vettel

stefa
10th May 2015, 12:58
LH is dangerously fast...

FerrariSteve
10th May 2015, 12:58
Insane Merc pace. Absolute joke. They have to be cheating with the fuel pressure.

stefa
10th May 2015, 12:59
What a boring race and we are just in the middle of it :P

Exactly my thoughts....

KurtC
10th May 2015, 12:59
so seems like Ferrari is going to try a 2 stop

FerrariF60
10th May 2015, 13:00
LH is dangerously fast...

probably using quali mode button again

The Architect
10th May 2015, 13:00
A big well thank you to Alonso for providing a moment of entertainment. Otherwise, I've been nodding off; it's been dire. Are Ferrari still running the aero upgrades?

Greig
10th May 2015, 13:01
Ah the good old they are cheating excuses appearing? I guess Red Bull decided to stop cheating the last few years?

Or the reality is we are still not good enough.

FerrariF60
10th May 2015, 13:02
A big well thank you to Alonso for providing a moment of entertainment. Otherwise, I've been nodding off; it's been dire. Are Ferrari still running the aero upgrades?

vettel is runnign all the new aero stuff...kimi is only using half i think

DJTaurus
10th May 2015, 13:02
Maybe everyone should have followed hamiltons strategy..... he will fight with rosberg in the end if he will continue like that.

superwonderboy
10th May 2015, 13:03
So now we see the true pace from mercedes,....hmmmm.

bonzo
10th May 2015, 13:03
Does ham has a new set of softs? No. So he will put hards again?

SinanOzerS
10th May 2015, 13:04
We just can't hold Hamilton behind us. That's near impossible.

Schumiklub
10th May 2015, 13:04
Why haven't we covered this, we can't do anything on hard tyres while they will be on mediums at the end of the race.

FerrariF60
10th May 2015, 13:04
So now we see the true pace from mercedes,....hmmmm.

yup, Vettel's ferrari was just holding him down....OR could have been that the merc's were NOT that confident on the MEDIUM tire

FerrariSteve
10th May 2015, 13:04
So now we see the true pace from mercedes,....hmmmm.

Scary isn't it :(

I'm taking bets here on how Merc will mess up Nico and give two chains the lead. Just for something to do.

bonzo
10th May 2015, 13:05
Seb will do 20+ laps on hards

NenoX
10th May 2015, 13:05
Why haven't we covered this, we can't do anything on hard tyres while they will be on mediums at the end of the race.

Hope it ends up well for Seb

FerrariF60
10th May 2015, 13:05
Why haven't we covered this, we can't do anything on hard tyres while they will be on mediums at the end of the race.

we simply have NO answer for the mercs...they are JUST TOO FAST

Schumiklub
10th May 2015, 13:06
They're stopping now, seriously?!

bonzo
10th May 2015, 13:06
25 laps on hards seems possible

SinanOzerS
10th May 2015, 13:06
2.2 again. Wow that pit crew.

FerrariF60
10th May 2015, 13:06
at least WE HAVE THE FASTEST PIT STOPS....

mizf1
10th May 2015, 13:06
25 laps on these tyres? Hamilton will have faster tyres at the end. I have a gut feeling we got the strategy wrong here

FerrariF60
10th May 2015, 13:07
Seb will do 20+ laps on hards

More like 25 laps....its' gonna be hard near the end of race...

FerrariSteve
10th May 2015, 13:07
at least WE HAVE THE FASTEST PIT STOPS....

Yeah :)

Greig
10th May 2015, 13:07
25 laps on these tyres? Hamilton will have faster tyres at the end. I have a gut feeling we got the strategy wrong here

We are not fast enough to race Merc no matter the strategy.

SinanOzerS
10th May 2015, 13:07
25 laps on these tyres? Hamilton will have faster tyres at the end. I have a gut feeling we got the strategy wrong here

No i don't think so. It's just Mercedes that their cars is so F'n fast.

KimiBot
10th May 2015, 13:08
We are not fast enough to race Merc no matter the strategy.

cruel but true

superwonderboy
10th May 2015, 13:09
Scary isn't it :(

I'm taking bets here on how Merc will mess up Nico and give two chains the lead. Just for something to do.

I really do wonder????

elnano98
10th May 2015, 13:10
Raikkonen vs Williams will be interesting

FerrariF60
10th May 2015, 13:11
Raikkonen vs Williams will be interesting

yeah he has to pass TWO of them....

bonzo
10th May 2015, 13:11
15sec lead of ham, 22-23 sec box time, hmmmm

bonzo
10th May 2015, 13:12
Seb has to push now

SinanOzerS
10th May 2015, 13:12
15sec lead of ham, 22-23 sec box time, hmmmm

Ham is not gonna pit again.

NenoX
10th May 2015, 13:12
Seb has to push now

Reallly really hard. not helping he is caught in traffic now.

FerrariF60
10th May 2015, 13:12
Seb has to push now

yes and pass cars at the same time

hakanabi
10th May 2015, 13:13
When the engine is turned up, that merc is still a second ahead of us. They are kidding everyone by saying that Ferrari is close now. Yeah for sure we are much better than last year but they are comfortably ahead of the rest. Another year of boredom unfortunately.

FerrariSteve
10th May 2015, 13:14
When the engine is turned up, that merc is still a second ahead of us. They are kidding everyone by saying that Ferrari is close now. Yeah for sure we are much better than last year but they are comfortably ahead of the rest. Another year of boredom unfortunately.

Sadly it does seem like they are playing with us. They have plenty of pace in hand if needed.

KimiBot
10th May 2015, 13:14
When the engine is turned up, that merc is still a second ahead of us. They are kidding everyone by saying that Ferrari is close now. Yeah for sure we are much better than last year but they are comfortably ahead of the rest. Another year of boredom unfortunately.

PU update in Canada and next week tests, could do difference

SinanOzerS
10th May 2015, 13:15
Vettel is still much slower than Hamilton. Meh.

mizf1
10th May 2015, 13:15
Ham is faster then Vet on older tyres and 16 secs ahead, when HAM pits and bolts on the fster tyres he will be 2-4 secs a lap faster.

FerrariF60
10th May 2015, 13:16
When the engine is turned up, that merc is still a second ahead of us. They are kidding everyone by saying that Ferrari is close now. Yeah for sure we are much better than last year but they are comfortably ahead of the rest. Another year of boredom unfortunately.

yeah, i too think that they have some sort of TRICKY engine map or something they can use even during race mode for a lap or 2 jsut to get some BOOSt in speed

KurtC
10th May 2015, 13:16
a SC would be so great right now

FerrariSteve
10th May 2015, 13:16
Nice one Kimi!

mizf1
10th May 2015, 13:17
Go on Kimi, go and get Bottas

NenoX
10th May 2015, 13:18
we blew seb's strategy. :(

superwonderboy
10th May 2015, 13:19
Seb, painfully slow now...

Ed Harley
10th May 2015, 13:19
I don't think Hamilton will pit again.

wacc
10th May 2015, 13:19
Vettel is still much slower than Hamilton. Meh.

Not only slower than Ham but also slower than Botas

bonzo
10th May 2015, 13:19
No chance for seb. Ham is much too fast

SinanOzerS
10th May 2015, 13:19
I don't think Hamilton will pit again.

He is gonna pit again but it doesn't matter.

FerrariF60
10th May 2015, 13:19
I don't think Hamilton will pit again.

ha, ha....that would be a blow for Nico, wouldnt' it??

Schumiklub
10th May 2015, 13:20
We're over a pit stop behind Ham now.

FerrariSteve
10th May 2015, 13:21
ha, ha....that would be a blow for Nico, wouldnt' it??

That would truly be hilarious to see after they told Nico he would. lol

But no, he will pit but sadly Seb won't be close I don't think :(

FerrariF60
10th May 2015, 13:21
We're over a pit stop behind Ham now.

we NEVER had a chance aginst mercedes...tehy are just TOO FAST

Greig
10th May 2015, 13:21
Nico will pass him if he does not pit anyway.

NenoX
10th May 2015, 13:22
Here we go lewis will pit now

Fireblade
10th May 2015, 13:22
This time the strategy guys got it wrong, we should have three stopped Vettel.

NenoX
10th May 2015, 13:23
and there it is

wacc
10th May 2015, 13:23
Williams is much closer to Ferrari than before.

elnano98
10th May 2015, 13:23
Rai's slower than Bottas

Ed Harley
10th May 2015, 13:23
He is gonna pit again but it doesn't matter.
Thought he had run with both tyres and that his stint had not been that long.

Greig
10th May 2015, 13:23
This time the strategy guys got it wrong, we should have three stopped Vettel.

Another armchair expert. We would still be 3rd.

FerrariF60
10th May 2015, 13:24
This time the strategy guys got it wrong, we should have three stopped Vettel.

i know hindsight is a ***** but either way we had no answer for the Mercs' today

darkchild
10th May 2015, 13:24
GG strategy guys...great job. Hamilton COULDNT pass Vettel because dirty air even though he was faster and then they give Hamilton clean air. I like our agressivness but today its just bad...

NenoX
10th May 2015, 13:24
Vettel sounded disappointed

superwonderboy
10th May 2015, 13:25
I think we gave up on second place. Mercs are just too fast. Pace from mercs are just insane. They had everbody fooled, seriously, this is not good, not only for us but also for the other teams aswell. How do we stop this???

REDARMYSOJA
10th May 2015, 13:25
Vettel sounded disappointed

I don't think he has enough of a gap.

stefa
10th May 2015, 13:25
Mercedes is just way faster than the rest of the field...

bonzo
10th May 2015, 13:26
Ham is trying to get Ros as well, has enough time if he does 2 sec per lap faster

Greig
10th May 2015, 13:26
GG strategy guys...great job. Hamilton COULDNT pass Vettel because dirty air even though he was faster and then they give Hamilton clean air. I like our agressivness but today its just bad...

And how do you propose we stayed in front of him always? If we pitted Lewis would have clear air, when Lewis pitted he had clear air to pass us anyway. Only way to keep him behind is pit on the same lap which off course is impossible.

FerrariSteve
10th May 2015, 13:26
1-2-3. is set.. Can Kimi get 4th?

mizf1
10th May 2015, 13:26
we need to keep an eye on Bottas, 8 secs behind us. It seems like Williams made a good gain with their upgrades

KurtC
10th May 2015, 13:26
at least Vet didn't blame the strategy, well at least we might still get podium Mercs are too fast

Rishu
10th May 2015, 13:27
In hindsight it easy to criticise the strategy but my experience says no strategy will work if car is not fast enough. Merc do have a better car, Seb & Team doing well but unfortunately not good enough

NenoX
10th May 2015, 13:27
And how do you propose we stayed in front of him always? If we pitted Lewis would have clear air, when Lewis pitted he had clear air to pass us anyway. Only way to keep him behind is pit on the same lap which off course is impossible.

Yeah, we lucked out on the first stop when hamilton got held back on his first stop.

darkchild
10th May 2015, 13:27
Merc is bloody fast...In clean air they are pure savage but behind Vettel they just COULDNT pass them, like Vettel and Bottas in Bahrain so why give track position away? Make him eat his tires up, not give him clean track...

Greig
10th May 2015, 13:29
Merc is bloody fast...In clean air they are pure savage but behind Vettel they just COULDNT pass them, like Vettel and Bottas in Bahrain so why give track position away? Make him eat his tires up, not give him clean track...

And how do you do that? If we pitted first then Lewis stays out.

LivingHitokiri
10th May 2015, 13:29
LOL Kimi

darkchild
10th May 2015, 13:29
And how do you propose we stayed in front of him always? If we pitted Lewis would have clear air, when Lewis pitted he had clear air to pass us anyway. Only way to keep him behind is pit on the same lap which off course is impossible.
He had clean air first pit stop as well, Vettel still went ahead. We had 1.5s before Ham pittet for 3.4s. We COULD get infront of him...it was obvious Hamilton couldnt pass because of dirty air. Should went with tried and tested and whatever happened...anyway hopefully 3-4 is possible.

NenoX
10th May 2015, 13:30
Lost 2nd place, still looking forward to 4th with Kimi!!

hakanabi
10th May 2015, 13:30
Gave up on second? No way we could have taken second with a pace like that from mercs. They are mighty fast

FerrariSteve
10th May 2015, 13:30
Not only are they way faster by a mile than us, they also have bulletproof reliability which only adds to the problems.

Greig
10th May 2015, 13:30
He had clean air first pit stop as well, Vettel still went ahead. We had 1.5s before Ham pittet for 3.4s. We COULD get infront of him...it was obvious Hamilton couldnt pass because of dirty air. Should went with tried and tested and whatever happened...anyway hopefully 3-4 is possible.

Lewis had a slow 1st pit stop due to the rear left not going on.

Schumiklub
10th May 2015, 13:31
we NEVER had a chance aginst mercedes...tehy are just TOO FAST

At least it was hard for Ham to pass when he's behind Seb.

LivingHitokiri
10th May 2015, 13:31
COME ON KIMI GET PASS HIM!

superwonderboy
10th May 2015, 13:32
No substitute for raw pace. I see it here today....

darkchild
10th May 2015, 13:32
Lewis had a slow 1st pit stop due to the rear left not going on.
2nd one wasnt fast either. We would NEVER lose 2 seconds in one lap to Hamilton, plus our 2nd pit was 2.2s so that would mean that Ham would have to be 3s fasrer on one lap, so no way...

NenoX
10th May 2015, 13:33
No substitute for raw pace. I see it here today....

Yup, Merc just has so much inside their bag.

Greig
10th May 2015, 13:36
2nd one wasnt fast either. We would NEVER lose 2 seconds in one lap to Hamilton, plus our 2nd pit was 2.2s so that would mean that Ham would have to be 3s fasrer on one lap, so no way...

Did you miss how fast Lewis was on his outlaps? Cmon be serious we don't have the pace to race them.

FerrariSteve
10th May 2015, 13:36
C'mon Kimi...Push!!

bonzo
10th May 2015, 13:36
Let us wait for the "canadian miracle"

NenoX
10th May 2015, 13:36
looks like Bahrain all over again hahaha!

stefa
10th May 2015, 13:38
Let us wait for the "canadian miracle"

Don't think/believe there are miracles in motor sport....

Schumiklub
10th May 2015, 13:38
Seb driving personal best laps now...

KimiBot
10th May 2015, 13:38
bottas is good defensive driver, so this is gonna be difficult

stefa
10th May 2015, 13:38
VB is faster on straights than KR...

darkchild
10th May 2015, 13:39
Did you miss how fast Lewis was on his outlaps? Cmon be serious we don't have the pace to race them.

We dont obviously, but Hamitlon COULDNT pass Vettel in dirty air, he said it himself few times on TR. Fact is, Vettel would come ahead Hamilton if he pitted like last time, and then even if Hamilton would close him down (like Raikkonen is doing to Bottas now) he MAYBE wouldnt be able to pass. He probably would, but giving Ham clean air for 10-15 laps was sucidal...

Fireblade
10th May 2015, 13:39
Strange that our drivers are so partial to different tyres - Seb quicker than Kimi on mediums, Kimi quicker than Seb on hards.

PURE PASSION
10th May 2015, 13:40
Looks like Kimis tires start to fall,he doesnt have good grip on last corner!!!

Greig
10th May 2015, 13:42
We dont obviously, but Hamitlon COULDNT pass Vettel in dirty air, he said it himself few times on TR. Fact is, Vettel would come ahead Hamilton if he pitted like last time, and then even if Hamilton would close him down (like Raikkonen is doing to Bottas now) he MAYBE wouldnt be able to pass. He probably would, but giving Ham clean air for 10-15 laps was sucidal...

No he would not have sorry, Hamilton would have been ahead with the undercut only a problem in the 1st stop stopped him passing then. We did not have the pace to race them and no strategy is going to change it.

bonzo
10th May 2015, 13:42
Bottas is too fast on the straight, no chance

NenoX
10th May 2015, 13:44
Good race and a good try for the guys. Still unclear if we could have kept second by covering Hamilton, but it is what it is. On to the next race!

darkchild
10th May 2015, 13:45
No he would not have sorry, Hamilton would have been ahead with the undercut only a problem in the 1st stop stopped him passing then. We did not have the pace to race them and no strategy is going to change it.

Thats not what numbers say Im sorry Hamilton WOULDNT get ahead of Vettel if he pitted lap after. Would he pass him? Most likely, but like Raikkonen now even with much faster car its almost imppssible to pass on this track in dirty air.

RedRebel40
10th May 2015, 13:46
Gg seb maximised, kimi underperformed this weekend. His car was able to finish 4th

FerrariF60
10th May 2015, 13:46
i think kimi's gonna lose teh drive for next year

that BOTTAS is really impressive and i'd be surprised if Ferrari would NOT sign him on

Greig
10th May 2015, 13:47
Thats not what numbers say Im sorry Hamilton WOULDNT get ahead of Vettel if he pitted lap after. Would he pass him? Most likely, but like Raikkonen now even with much faster car its almost imppssible to pass on this track in dirty air.

Again you are ignoring how fast Lewis was on his outlap, he would have undercut Seb at the 1st stop without the problem, we were 40 seconds behind time to wake up and smell the coffee.

stefa
10th May 2015, 13:47
As I said 3rd was our max today...

Ed Harley
10th May 2015, 13:47
3rd and 5th ie. pudium and a bunch of points.

Hopefully the next week's testing session will bring some more speed.

SinanOzerS
10th May 2015, 13:48
Manipulation at it's best ^

KimiBot
10th May 2015, 13:48
P3 P5, that is it, yeah, what can you do
hopefully they can do something with that new aero pack tuesday and wednesday

PURE PASSION
10th May 2015, 13:48
Good race and as it looked on Friday,Mercs where far away.Its their first dominant win this year(copy paste from last year)!!
I really do hope that it will be one off and from next race allready we can again push them hard and hunt them for the win!!!!!

darkchild
10th May 2015, 13:49
Still happy with 3rd just dissappointed that team, knowing how hard is to pass on this track, gave Ham track place and clean air. He can go for 10 laps giving 1+ second a lap, but when he gets to Vettel infront of him he is just as "slow" because he simply cannot pass. I would understand this strategy anywhere else but Barcelona and Monaco. You dont give track position in these places

KurtC
10th May 2015, 13:49
best the team could do against the Mercs, well done Ferrari keep up with the work

LivingHitokiri
10th May 2015, 13:49
Good try but that williams straight speed was simply impossible, plus Bottas got lots of times drs due to backmarkers.
Next hopefully we can get both cars on new upgrades and make the work properly.!

darkchild
10th May 2015, 13:50
Again you are ignoring how fast Lewis was on his outlap, he would have undercut Seb at the 1st stop without the problem, we were 40 seconds behind time to wake up and smell the coffee.

No he wouldnt what are you on about? He had 5 second pit stop and got 4 seconds behind, if he had 2.5s pit stop he would still be behind. Again you are not following at all..We are faster then Williams still we simply couldnt pass them with medium tires and while closing 1s per lap

mark p
10th May 2015, 13:51
3rd and 5th ie. pudium and a bunch of points.

Hopefully the next week's testing session will bring some more speed.

Not bad. Last year next best were 50 seconds off the 2nd merc this time 30 seconds but 45 off top As seen in pre season this is Mercs best track, as a come back year it is very good but nice to get the cars 3 and 4 again as last 2 races Bottas has had 1 of the Ferrari drivers.

superwonderboy
10th May 2015, 13:51
How on earth are we going to stop the dominance of the mercs? Today we saw how fast they really can be. Crazy stuff. But im afraid not good for the sport. Well done to our boys, it's the max we coul'd do today, good job.

NenoX
10th May 2015, 13:52
Good try but that williams straight speed was simply impossible, plus Bottas got lots of times drs due to backmarkers.
Next hopefully we can get both cars on new upgrades and make the work properly.!

Yup, a whole lot for the guys to do to make the 0.4s gain possible with these upgrades

LivingHitokiri
10th May 2015, 13:52
How on earth are we going to stop the dominance of the mercs? Today we saw how fast they really can be. Crazy stuff. But im afraid not good for the sport. Well done to our boys, it's the max we coul'd do today, good job.

This race probably suits their car perfectly tbh.
We got many races to go im not giving up on our car ... yet/

Rob
10th May 2015, 13:53
yet again the pit crews amazing. Very quick stops. :thumb

No matter what we would of done. There would of been no way to hold back Lewis. They to fast. Yes our updates work. But Merc stared started year away ahead anyway. We can close gap. But when they update car they take that gap back out again.

Greig
10th May 2015, 13:53
No he wouldnt what are you on about? He had 5 second pit stop and got 4 seconds behind, if he had 2.5s pit stop he would still be behind. Again you are not following at all..We are faster then Williams still we simply couldnt pass them with medium tires and while closing 1s per lap

Again you are ignoring the lap times have you even looked at them? Lewis had the pace to easily undercut us only a problem stopped him doing this at the 1st stop, the 2nd one he was ahead of us easy even if we pitted. We had no way to stay in front of him as he had way better pace suggesting otherwise is just being silly.

Ed Harley
10th May 2015, 13:53
How on earth are we going to stop the dominance of the mercs? Today we saw how fast they really can be. Crazy stuff. But im afraid not good for the sport. Well done to our boys, it's the max we coul'd do today, good job.
By continuing development.

stefa
10th May 2015, 13:53
For those on balkan speaking language: Koji je ovaj Hamilton SABAN!!!!!

Nova
10th May 2015, 13:53
Not only smell the coffee, but whatever upgrades we did b4 this race, Merc did us 1 up.
We finished 45 SECONDS behind them. Our race pace was better b4 today for sure.
Its great to see us better than last year, but I would love to see us really get competitive.
Our upgrades simply didnt equal Mercs. Drag..

DelMar
10th May 2015, 13:55
Again you are ignoring the lap times have you even looked at them? Lewis had the pace to easily undercut us only a problem stopped him doing this at the 1st stop, the 2nd one he was ahead of us easy even if we pitted. We had no way to stay in front of him as he had way better pace suggesting otherwise is just being silly.
But Lewis was in traffic when he got out of the pits. If we have pitted Vettel the next lap. I think we would still be ahead for another stint.

Fireblade
10th May 2015, 13:57
Five podiums in five races, and neither driver has finished lower than fifth. In a normal season we'd be in good shape, it's just that Merc is if anything even more dominant than they were last year.

It's odd that Kimi seems consistently quicker than Seb on the hard tyre and Seb quicker than Kimi on the medium. Of course they were using different setups here. But if that's down to driver preference then the team might want to factor that into their race strategy and try to keep each man on his preferred rubber for as much of the race as possible.

NenoX
10th May 2015, 13:57
But Lewis was in traffic when he got out of the pits. If we have pitted Vettel the next lap. I think we would still be ahead for another stint.

Yeah he was but he still managed to pull off a 1:29 (I believe) on his outlap. He dispatched the lotus within 5 corners of his outlap and had clear air through out.

Nova
10th May 2015, 13:57
By continuing development.

Of course continued development, but after today we need a pretty big
jump to get close. 45 seconds is a huge deference.

LivingHitokiri
10th May 2015, 13:57
But Lewis was in traffic when he got out of the pits. If we have pitted Vettel the next lap. I think we would still be ahead for another stint.

The only traffic he had was 1 lotus that he got past 3 corners later.
I think the strategy today was good its just mercs are too fast on this track.

Haris
10th May 2015, 13:57
Since Kimi didn't use most of the upgrades we brought here and Sebastian did, comparing their pace over the whole race I think it's very hard to notice any difference...

FerrariSteve
10th May 2015, 13:58
Not hating the guy but Kimi really needs to step up his qualifying.

..especially with Monaco looming.

PURE PASSION
10th May 2015, 13:58
Arrivabene: "Let's be honest, even though we are on the podium, it was not a good race"
"I'm not happy today"

tifosi1993
10th May 2015, 13:58
Disappointing pace, seems this year will be another 2011 or 2013, always 2nd/3rd fastest.

Good job by Vettel today.

darkchild
10th May 2015, 13:58
Again you are ignoring the lap times have you even looked at them? Lewis had the pace to easily undercut us only a problem stopped him doing this at the 1st stop, the 2nd one he was ahead of us easy even if we pitted. We had no way to stay in front of him as he had way better pace suggesting otherwise is just being silly.

Yes I have seen lap times and fact is Ham couldnt undercut Vettel, not only that he fell into traffic behind Raikkonen. Seriously, Vettel had 1.5s when Ham pittes and his pit stop was 3.2s, and Vettels was 2.2s. So hamilton had to make 2.5s in one lap to undercut him, and he didnt do it.

Simply put Vettel would come ahead in 2nd pit stop no matter what you say. Again, i realize they were just faster but like in Raikkonen/Bottas case its almost impossible to pass even if you are cutting the lead by 1s and have medium tires.

zike
10th May 2015, 13:59
For those on balkan speaking language: Koji je ovaj Hamilton SABAN!!!!!

Vazda bio Saban

SashAlex
10th May 2015, 13:59
The car still struggles getting out of the corners. Poor traction. Need some efficient engine mapping, imho, as the torque still gives the rear some hard times.

Waiting for the engine update to be as strong as possible... 40+ seconds is too damn much, even for a circuit as Barcelona that suited those silver tractors...

LivingHitokiri
10th May 2015, 13:59
Since Kimi didn't use most of the upgrades we brought here and Sebastian did, comparing their pace over the whole race I think it's very hard to notice any difference...

It made a lot difference on the mediums and on the qualifying, there is no doubt that the new upgrades are working but i think this race isn't showing it properly.

darkchild
10th May 2015, 13:59
Yeah he was but he still managed to pull off a 1:29 (I believe) on his outlap. He dispatched the lotus within 5 corners of his outlap and had clear air through out.
That was 3rd pit stop not 2nd.