Austrian Grand Prix 2015 Race Thread

[stefa]

Just little bit over an hour before the race starts.
Hope for the clean and fruitful race to Ferrari :-)

:ferrarifl

[FerrariSteve]

Forza Ferrari!!

I'll be cheering on Seb and Kimi and hoping for a Merc DNF (sorry, just being honest)

[Rob]

Forza Ferrari.

Seb podium for sure, just as long as we have good clean race. Kimi, if he gets race face on, and not the Kimi face of cannt be ****** face, points is on cards. Same old, dream that Mercs will trip other eachother and double DNFs and Seb there for the picking up the win.

Aslo, Happy fathers day to all Dads.:thumb

[stefa]

Overcast but dry

[dpiatto]

After watching a truly brilliant Blancpain GT race from Paul Ricard on Motors TV yesterday I’m finding it hard to get motivated for this potential repeat of the Canadian GP borefest.
Good showing by Ferrari & great job by Kessel Racing & Akka ASP 458’s finishing within the top ten out of the 60 car grid.
Not expecting much from this F1 race in Austria as nobody can run close in the dirty air especially through those fast downhill sweepers therefore most overtaking will be done in pitlane so nothing much gonna happen really. Doubt Vettel will get anywhere near the Merc's so expecting another Lewis show with Rosberg finishing in his mandatory 2nd spot.
Kimi's quali performance was pretty much expected as this is his normal form in wet/changeable conditions so no surprise TBH. No doubt he will go better in the race until he gets stuffed behind the Merc buffer that is Bottas Williams.
Haven't seen much from the bad dwarf lately so hopefully Brundle will catch him on the grid in the hope he will cause a laugh. Maybe the highlight of this event will be some outlandish, ludicrous remark from him of how sort out these ridiculous engine usage penalties.
Hopefully I’m 100% wrong about everything & we have a great race.
Forza Ferrai!!!

[Rob]

After watching a truly brilliant Blancpain GT race from Paul Ricard on Motors TV yesterday I’m finding it hard to get motivated for this potential repeat of the Canadian GP borefest.
Good showing by Ferrari & great job by Kessel Racing & Akka ASP 458’s finishing within the top ten out of the 60 car grid.
Not expecting much from this F1 race in Austria as nobody can run close in the dirty air especially through those fast downhill sweepers therefore most overtaking will be done in pitlane so nothing much gonna happen really. Doubt Vettel will get anywhere near the Merc's so expecting another Lewis show with Rosberg finishing in his mandatory 2nd spot.
Kimi's quali performance was pretty much expected as this is his normal form in wet/changeable conditions so no surprise TBH. No doubt he will go better in the race until he gets stuffed behind the Merc buffer that is Bottas Williams.
Haven't seen much from the bad dwarf lately so hopefully Brundle will catch him on the grid in the hope he will cause a laugh. Maybe the highlight of this event will be some outlandish, ludicrous remark from him of how sort out these ridiculous engine usage penalties.
Hopefully I’m 100% wrong about everything & we have a great race.
Forza Ferrai!!!

that was good race. :thumb

[LivingHitokiri]

Forza Ferrari, hoping for a good race for Seb and Kimi :thumb

[bondilad]

Seb will win today:thumb

Top five finish for Kimi should be good considering his starting position.

[IulianFerrari]

Hopefully Seb can fight at least nico, passing him at the start would be great. Kimi needs a clean start and he will probably end up top 6 at least, knowing his great racecraft and tyre protection. Forza Ferrari !

[Alessandra]

Is this the daftest grid ever? :Hmm
The two drivers in one team who are on pole and 2nd positions both spun their cars on their final laps. But, due to the superiority of their cars they were not inconvenienced too much.
And, two world champion drivers are starting not just from the back of the grid but from minus positions on the grid –not through any fault of their own or infringement of driving rules themselves.
Added to which they will also have 1. A drive - through penalty 2. A stop/ go penalty just to make absolutely certain that there is no possibility that they gain any points – which, sadly, they show no signs whatsoever of doing.
Added to this there will be howls of outrage should either of them ‘enjoy’ themselves or ‘have fun’ or race others who have faster cars than them and want to overtake them.
I am going to be at Silverstone, but I'm beginning to wonder why.

[stefa]

Is this the daftest grid ever? :Hmm
The two drivers in one team who are on pole and 2nd positions both spun their cars on their final laps. But, due to the superiority of their cars they were not inconvenienced too much.
And, two world champion drivers are starting not just from the back of the grid but from minus positions on the grid –not through any fault of their own or infringement of driving rules themselves.
Added to which they will also have 1. A drive - through penalty 2. A stop/ go penalty just to make absolutely certain that there is no possibility that they gain any points – which, sadly, they show no signs whatsoever of doing.
Added to this there will be howls of outrage should either of them ‘enjoy’ themselves or ‘have fun’ or race others who have faster cars than them and want to overtake them.
I am going to be at Silverstone, but I'm beginning to wonder why.

:thumb Well said!

[stefa]

There is a slim possibility of shower during race

[Kristof_F40]

I don't think there will be much overtaking, only the Renaults will be overtaken I think. With the tyres being so hard, 1 stop won't be much of an issue.
I still think that if Kimi doesn't make up a lot of places in the first few laps, he's better of doing an early stop and have clean are and use the potential of the car

[zamlatuljko]

my prediction for race

1 vettel
2 rosberg
3 kimi

i have a feeling that hamilton wont finish this race...

[fratelliferrari]

Forza Ferrari :ferrarifl

[FerrariSteve]

my prediction for race

1 vettel
2 rosberg
3 kimi

i have a feeling that hamilton wont finish this race...

PLEASE let that be true. I'd love it.

[elnano98]

Any link with the English commentary???

[IulianFerrari]

Torro Rosso looking a lot better than RBR. Plus it will be a horror of a race for the "hosts" with the Renault engine.

[fratelliferrari]

There is a slim possibility of shower during race

I just heard 40% chance of rain at 16.00 so probably we won't get anything...

[Rob]

my prediction for race

1 vettel
2 rosberg
3 kimi

i have a feeling that hamilton wont finish this race...

please dont tempt fate

[IulianFerrari]

Any link with the English commentary???

Just don't look for sky, a lot of great former f1 drivers competing for the title of who kisses lewis's back side better.

[Hornet]

Would love to see some rain during the race to make things a little exciting.

Best of luck everyone

[mizf1]

Hoping for a good race.

[stefa]

Torro Rosso looking a lot better than RBR. Plus it will be a horror of a race for the "hosts" with the Renault engine.

You naughty boy :-D

[Winter]

:ferrarifl

[stefa]

Would love to see some rain during the race to make things a little exciting.

Best of luck everyone

Would be nice...

[vecchiasignora]

Long time no here, will the mercedes car tyres be hurt after they went out? i hope so

[nani_s23]

Hope for clean race for both of our drivers...!!
Seb needs to attack mercs if there's much pace in our car. As far as Kimi is concerned, just need to drive his own race, if it's wet then trouble for him as we saw during FP.
So hoping for dry race.

[mizf1]

I have a feeling Vettel will have one of the Mercs by the first few corners if he gets a clean start

[FerrariSteve]

Lol SkyF1 "Jean Elesi"

[IulianFerrari]

You naughty boy :-D

Yes, all smiles on that. Don't get me started on Mclaren:)

[stefa]

Yes, all smiles on that. Don't get me started on Mclaren:)

:rotfl

[IulianFerrari]

Lol SkyF1 "Jean Elise"

Saw it too, if you're not british who cares. "Proffessionals"

[IulianFerrari]

:rotfl

I have an ongoing bet with some friends. Who will be the first to retire from mclaren today and when. I took Alonso first half of the race ;)

[nani_s23]

Expecting SC Becoz of McLaren :lol

[Scuderia85]

Forza ferrari

[FerrariSteve]

Forza Ferrari!! and a curse on Mercedes :)

[KimiBot]

Now it`s time for Seb to take perfect start

[SinanOzerS]

Kimi is starting with softs.

[wacc]

Forza Ferrari! :ferrarifl

[FerrariF60]

Kimi is starting with softs.

looks like it

[stefa]

:ferrarifl

[stefa]

KR and FA

[SinanOzerS]

Kimi is crashed.

[mizf1]

What?

[stefa]

hope KR is allright

[KurtC]

kimi alonso damn

[stefa]

It looks nasty

[IulianFerrari]

OMG

[m schumy]

Very nasty accident between Alonso and Kimi :-E

[KimiBot]

both are okey, HUH

[Winter]

Pfffft!!

[mizf1]

woooooooooow that was close to Kimis head

[stefa]

KR had so much luck!!!

[SinanOzerS]

What is this ? It's STRANGE.

[Greig]

Eeeek glad both are ok, look's like Kimi lost it and collected Nando.

[dpiatto]

Must have worked out it's the shortest walk to the pub & a good place to crash.
Maybe he'll buy Alonso a Wiessbeer.

[fratelliferrari]

WOW that was a big impact! Luckily nothing bad happened..

[nani_s23]

Eeeek glad both are ok, look's like Kimi lost it and collected Nando.
Yup, Kimi spun n collected alonso

[FerrariSteve]

Damn. :(

Glad both are ok.

[bondilad]

Glad they are both okay:pray

[Red is Best]

Thank God he is ok...

[vcs316]

Glad to see them both walking away from the crash..

[nani_s23]

Kimi had bad start early on...!! Alonso had Gud start.

[stefa]

It seams that FA hit KR from behind causing him to loose control

[DJTaurus]

Those mercs seem to not only have one hot lap qualify button but also the same for the race begin. Bloody fast. They are playing with the rest of the field......

To all Alonso haters at least he gave his hand to kimi after the crash....

[stefa]

Kimi had bad start early on...!! Alonso had Gud start.

Good = Gud :thumb

[mizf1]

a lot of damage of that Ferrari, Rosberg is probably glad he can brethe from Hamilton for a bit

[SinanOzerS]

I don't think there's a tap from Fernando to Kimi. It looks like just a lost control.

[LivingHitokiri]

Actually it was Fernando that hit kimi from behind made him lose his rear and then got on top of him.
Kimi was right behind the lotus in the straights so he didnt lost any pace.

[stefa]

Those mercs seem to not only have one hot lap qualify button but also the same for the race begin. Bloody fast. They are playing with the rest of the field......

To all Alonso haters at least he gave his hand to kimi after the crash....

They pulled so fast from SV in first 3 curves. Amazing!!!

[Greig]

Actually it was Fernando that hit kimi from behind made him lose his rear and then got on top of him.
Kimi was right behind the lotus in the straights so he didnt lost any pace.

All the replays are not conclusive, have you seen something nobody else has?

[FerrariSteve]

Good = Gud :thumb

Thanks for that, I first thought gud was an acronym, not a typo :D

[zamlatuljko]

It seams that FA hit KR from behind causing him to loose control

I think that rikardo hit raikonen and then he loose car, on that lap rikardo goes to pit and changes front wing. On replay he passes kimi on right side..

[WS6TransAm01]

Need the onboard camera from Frrnando's car

[IulianFerrari]

Guess we will find out after the race who's fault it was

[nani_s23]

As expected SC Becoz of mclaren, sadly one of our driver is out too

[DJTaurus]

Rain expected somewhere in the next 20 minutes....

[stefa]

And Mercedes disappears in front....

[stefa]

Rain expected somewhere in the next 20 minutes....

Would be nice. If not we are into Mercedes bore fest!

[KimiBot]

And Mercedes disappears in front....

yeah

[Scuderia85]

Rain please!

[FerrariSteve]

Mercedes trolling us on fri/sat again.. come the race they use their "special" engine mapping mode and simply walk away.

[DJTaurus]

And we can't get away from Williams too. Merc have boosted their engine for sure...

[WS6TransAm01]

Mercedes trolling us on fri/sat again.. come the race they use their "special" engine mapping mode and simply walk away.

They only go as fast as they need, not as fast as they can.

[stefa]

So we are into 71 lap boredom fest!!!

[Schumiklub]

Sector 1 is killing us.

[stefa]

They only go as fast as they need, not as fast as they can.

Well said!

[KimiBot]

Arrivabene has some homework to do: "If we change our plan in Quali, we have to tell that to our driver too"
Write that 1000 times.

[F2003GA]

around 0.5 sec behind......short track.....:-(

[Rob]

Actually it was Fernando that hit kimi from behind made him lose his rear and then got on top of him.
Kimi was right behind the lotus in the straights so he didnt lost any pace.

until we know 120% there is no point in blaming anyone.

[DJTaurus]

Vettel already 7 seconds away. Hamilton trying to get into drs.

[Schumiklub]

Yep, still 0.5s behind the Mercedes. I hoped it would be closer this weekend.

[KimiBot]

around 0.5 sec behind......short track.....:-(

yeah, maybe 0.8 sec per lap I think

[mizf1]

what happened to the better race pace?

[stefa]

It is getting Sunnier... Don't think it will rain :-(

[Rob]

what happened to the better race pace?

our race pace is good. Just Merc playing with everyone on Fridays, making think other teams may have a chance come race day.

[Rob]

It is getting Sunnier... Don't think it will rain :-(

there some dark clouds around the track.

Possiblity rain coming in from the west.

http://www.accuweather.com/en/at/spielberg-bei-knittelfeld/25519/weather-radar/25519

[stefa]

there some dark clouds around the track.

Praying for them to squeeze something over the track

[Nova]

I love this track...Is there a race on?

[FerrariF60]

I love this track...Is there a race on?

nope, it's a BOREFEST.....will finish merc 1-2

[F2003GA]

What about pit stop guys are we talking about 1 or 2 ?

Vettel saving tyres......i would like it but we are definitely behind and i am affraid that s going to be this way for all the year.

And to be honnest if it s true that merco can push any further next years will be complicated as well

[Rob]

What about pit stop guys are we talking about 1 or 2 ?

Vettel saving tyres......i would like it but we are definitely behind and i am affraid that s going to be this way for all the year.

And to be honnest if it s true that merco can push any further next years will be complicated as well

be boring 1 stop.

[mizf1]

How do Pirelli get away with 1 stoppers, i'm sure they were asked for 2-3 stops when they first came in. Its just Bridgestone all over again

[F2003GA]

be boring 1 stop.

ok thanks :-ZZ

[KimiBot]

https://vid.me/7YOv

[bondilad]

When will these mercs retire....:pray

[Winter]

Nice move by Bottas.

[stefa]

Nice move by Bottas.

I like this VB guy

[LivingHitokiri]

All the replays are not conclusive, have you seen something nobody else has?

It was obvious that something hit Kimi on the straight that made him lose his rear.Now since Fernando was directly behind him it is safe to assume that it was him.
It makes no sense Kimi losing pace after he already got the corner and was right behind the Lotus, just look how abnormally he lost his rear so its safe to assume that it was a contact.

[zike]

such a stupid race :-(:-(:-(

[stefa]

such a stupid race :-(:-(:-(

Boring!!!!

[Scuderia85]

BORING :-s

[Rob]

[video]https://vid.me/7YOv[/url]

puncture.

[Greig]

It was obvious that something hit Kimi on the straight that made him lose his rear.Now since Fernando was directly behind him it is safe to assume that it was him.
It makes no sense Kimi losing pace after he already got the corner and was right behind the Lotus, just look how abnormally he lost his rear so its safe to assume that it was a contact.

Or he lost it, not so obvious until we see or hear from the drivers.

[darkchild]

This is comfortably the most boring race of this season...

[DJTaurus]

Vettel 12 seconds away. I am gonna mute the race now to watch sth else.

[stefa]

This is comfortably the most boring race of this season...

There a plenty to come more.

[bondilad]

This is comfortably the most boring race of this season...
Yes... so far

[Red is Best]

Did Sebastian make a mistake? He went from 8 seconds to 12 in a single lap.

[DJTaurus]

Rosberg out of rubber :p

[Rob]

Or he lost it, not so obvious until we see or hear from the drivers.

well said, for me looks like puncture. But until Kimi or Fernando say or we see the onboard form Nandos car there no point speculating

[Red is Best]

From the on-board footage it's pretty obvious he was hit from behind.

[LivingHitokiri]

Or he lost it, not so obvious until we see or hear from the drivers.

He already was far past the corner and im not sure how can someone lose it on straight unless he gets a puncture or a tackle from behind.
Cars do not magically lose their rear on straight without braking or anything.

[Greig]

He already was far past the corner and im not sure how can someone lose it on straight unless he gets a puncture or a tackle from behind.
Cars do not magically lose their rear on straight without braking or anything.

He magically lost it in Canada too.

[Scuderia85]

BORING :-s

[FerrariF60]

at least Vettel led for a bit

[Winter]

[video]https://vid.me/7YOv[/url]

Wow, that was more dangerous than I thought. Alonsos floor almost cut Kimi.
At least he had luck when it was needed most..

[stefa]

Great!!!

[Greig]

Damn

[stefa]

:furious

[DIEK]

at least Vettel led for a bit

Terrible pitstop...

[FerrariF60]

what bunch of amators we are

[fratelliferrari]

:-(

[mizf1]

great..............

[DJTaurus]

Tough luck.....

[KurtC]

great, we lost podium

[Rob]

im really thinking of turning this off.

[wacc]

This is soo depressing :-(

[Greig]

what bunch of amators we are

Another over reaction.

[TonyRizza]

Just perfect

[stefa]

LH under investigation!

[Greig]

Penalty for Hamilton coming up.

[FerrariF60]

great, we lost podium

yes indeed.....so much for others thinking that Vettel could win the race

[FerrariSteve]

Oh damn :(

[mizf1]

Hamilton under investigation for crossing white line

[DIEK]

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Kimi said on German TV he lost the rear under acceleration, may be the hard tyres were cold...

[nani_s23]

Great race .... Horrible pit stop. Great crew ...!!

[Scuderia85]

NO NO

[Rob]

looked liked gun wouldnt come off, maybe over torqued it. Make sure it stays on. So, we doing 1 stop.

[Red is Best]

Great...

[Schumiklub]

What's with the pit stops lately. I guess we're trying to perfect it but started making too many mistakes.

[Greig]

5 sec penalty for Lewis, means nothing.

[stefa]

5 sec penalty for LH

[red power]

Pathetic pit stop.

[FerrariSteve]

5sec penalty is pathetic!!!

Should be a drive through!

[DJTaurus]

5 sec penalty for LH

At least he will finish second :P

[wickedf1]

The pits crew lose us the podium. :-( Mass is the same speed with us so bad for us.

[LivingHitokiri]

He magically lost it in Canada too.

Total different occasions.
In Canada it was right after the corner as he tried to throttle up power kicked in and made him spin.
Here he didnt spun he clearly suddenly lost his rear due to a touch or a puncture like Rob pointed out. Personally i think he got hit from behind,made him lose rear and collide.

[Schumiklub]

The sad part is Vettel isn't even catching Massa.

[DJTaurus]

I predict this year that f1 will reach new viewers low. Look at how many cars have retired. F1 has become a joke.

[Greig]

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Kimi said on German TV he lost the rear under acceleration, may be the hard tyres were cold...



Here he didnt spun he clearly suddenly lost his rear due to a touch or a puncture like Rob pointed out. Personally i think he got hit from behind,made him lose rear and collide.

Oh well.

[Rob]

If we do great stops and have good race everyone praises the team. But just bit of bad luck with the gun, everyone turns on them and runs them down.

They work so hard for us to go racing. Look after the cars, stand in dangerous place when a car is coming at them at 60 mph and changes the wheel in under 3 seconds. Give them a break, if the gun goes bit whoop now and again.

[bondilad]

We are losing a lot of points to williams:furious

[stefa]

I think I fell a sleep a little :-D

[Rob]

Alonso said in an interview minutes ago, that Kimi was sliding after the turn and then hit Fernando's car when he was trying to pass from the left side, didn't hear what kimi said about it , we'll have to wait

On replay Kimi had both left side tyres over the white line before turn in, so may of picked up puncture.

[Greig]

Kimi on Sky says he lost it due to wheelspin.

[Rob]

wheelspin then.

[REDARMYSOJA]

I think I fell a sleep a little :-D

I'm a bit envious of McLaren fans at this point, at least they know they have no hope.

[KurtC]

those 5 seconds penatly won't do anything to Lewis race...

[stefa]

I'm a bit envious of McLaren fans at this point, at least they know they have no hope.

:rotfl

[KimiBot]

really bad weekend for Ferrari, what can you do

[mizf1]

c'mon go and get that podium

[fratelliferrari]

If we do great stops and have good race everyone praises the team. But just bit of bad luck with the gun, everyone turns on them and runs them down.

They work so hard for us to go racing. Look after the cars, stand in dangerous place when a car is coming at them at 60 mph and changes the wheel in under 3 seconds. Give them a break, if the gun goes bit whoop now and again.

Well said normally we got one of the if not the fastest pitstops during the weekend! And Seb is actually closing in on Felipe so we might get a podium after all still!

[WS6TransAm01]

My god. This is like watching grass grow

[KimiBot]

those 5 seconds penatly won't do anything to Lewis race...

safety car just before end maybe

[LivingHitokiri]

Oh well.

He said he had an unusual wheel spin as he was already far into the straight ....
Hopefully we get Alonso on board.

[Greig]

He said he had an unusual wheel spin as he was already far into the straight ....
Hopefully we get Alonso on board.

Alonso said Kimi just lost it as well, as did Kimi so really not sure what more we need.

[TonyRizza]

Again kimi made a mistake that cost us points

[FerrariSteve]

safety car just before end maybe

I'd laugh my socks off if the race finished under a SC.

[REDARMYSOJA]

My god. This is like watching grass grow

That's what I'm doing, it seems taller in turn 1.

[KimiBot]

Rosberg gets DNF and safety car in and Seb WINS!!!!

That is our plan atm

[bondilad]

Rosberg gets DNF and safety car in and Seb WINS!!!!

That is our plan atm

:thumb

[dpiatto]

C'mon Pastor, bring out the safety car.

[stefa]

Unbelievable boring!!!!

[Rob]

Now i know how Mclaren fans and Williams fans felt during our glory years.

Bored as ****

[Rob]

Come on Seb, wake me up.

[superwonderboy]

I think seb in a way can almost thank the team for that poor pit stop, because now he has at least some racing to do trying to catch and pass massa, otherwise he would just race with nobody, because mercs are too fast. He is a racer, so let him rather hunt massa down for the third place.

[FerrariF60]

Now i know how Mclaren fans and Williams fans felt during our glory years.

Bored as ****

exactly....but it FELT so ******* good for us, didn't it??

[LivingHitokiri]

This is really boring even for me, god.
How they managed to ruin F1 that much, curse you Bernie.

[Rob]

exactly....but it FELT so ******* good for us, didn't it??

oh 120%, thats why as much as i hate what we got now, not team, just state of F1 and Merc, i do respect them for what they done/doing.

[Greig]

This is really boring even for me, god.
How they managed to ruin F1 that much, curse you Bernie.

Blame the FIA, Bernie does not want a boring F1 as much as you.

[WS6TransAm01]

The gap Mas - Vet seems to be stable at 2.1s

[REDARMYSOJA]

This is really boring even for me, god.
How they managed to ruin F1 that much, curse you Bernie.

The teams and the FIA make the rules, not Bernie.

[SinanOzerS]

This is really boring even for me, god.
How they managed to ruin F1 that much, curse you Bernie.

It's not Bernie's fault, it's all about that old Todt man.

[Rob]

This is really boring even for me, god.
How they managed to ruin F1 that much, curse you Bernie.

can not keep blaming Bernie. Bernie has done SOOOOOOO much for F1 over the years. Look where he has bought the sport from the 70s. From hardly any tv coverage, to now.

[REDARMYSOJA]

oh 120%, thats why as much as i hate what we got now, not team, just state of F1 and Merc, i do respect them for what they done/doing.

These desperate rule changes really started in 2005 when they started going after Schumi.

[DJTaurus]

Lol even Williams pit crew are bored watching massa's race.

[FerrariSteve]

Go on Seb.. Chase him down!

[Scuderia85]

Bring back f1 2004 edition

[Rob]

These desperate rule changes really started in 2005 when they started going after Schumi.

These engines where talked about when BMW, Toyota where still in the sport. And Merc was hands in with it aswell. When they left, Merc kept pushing and pushing.

[stefa]

What a waste of 1.5 hours of life!!!?!?!?

[Schumiklub]

The difference between Vettel and Massa is too small for Vettel to have any chance of passing.

[FerrariF60]

The difference between Vettel and Massa is too small for Vettel to have any chance of passing.

yeah, pretty sad....unless massa makes a mistake

[Greig]

What a waste of 1.5 hours of life!!!?!?!?

Don't watch then?

[REDARMYSOJA]

Just my luck, the only two still left I really care about are Vettel and Massa and I have to hope they race each other.

[stefa]

Don't watch then?

Hardly... I am more sleeping :-)

[Ilsan]

The difference between Vettel and Massa is too small for Vettel to have any chance of passing.
Especially since Vettel is constantly losing 1-2 tenths in S1. Even with DRS it will be nigh impossible to overtake.

Damn those traffic. Seb isn't being effective with dealing with them!

[Schumiklub]

Especially since Vettel is constantly losing 1-2 tenths in S1. Even with DRS it will be nigh impossible to overtake.

Yep, we don't have enough top speed. We may be running a bit too much wing. We're constantly faster in the middle sector.

[DIEK]

I'm a bit envious of McLaren fans at this point, at least they know they have no hope.

Don't think that, we hope to stay ahead of Manor or finish the race, but sometimes even that isn't possible...




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http://hasmclarenhondawonyet.com/


:furious

[SinanOzerS]

Vettel is in DRS range !

[AfterLife]

That Williams has no grip. It will be easy for pass.

[FerrariF60]

Vettel is in DRS range !

yeah, but the williams has so much straight line speed though

[Scuderia85]

Need some tracktion

[SinanOzerS]

Well at least we're faster than Williams.

[Rob]

Need some tracktion

we got it, the Williams just better on straights. We got better car.

[stefa]

Unless FM don't make any mistake SV won't be able to pass him

[DIEK]

http://hasmaldonadocrashedtoday.com/

:pray

[DJTaurus]

Pastor you are my hero :P

[Rob]

well held Pastor.

[stefa]

Thank God this is over!!!

[stefa]

Nice drive SV

[Schumiklub]

P4 then, crap...

[SinanOzerS]

Another podium is thrown away. Thank you guys.

[REDARMYSOJA]

I'm just glad Ferrari dumped Massa and signed Kimi. That's working out so well.

[tifosi1993]

Another easy podium thrown away...

[KurtC]

well just an average 2015 race.... suck that ferrari lost the podium by mistakes, hoping for a better race in GB

[SinanOzerS]

I'm just glad Ferrari dumped Massa and signed Kimi. That's working out so well.

Well, Massa wasn't any different.

[FerrariF60]

P4 then, crap...

yup that is SAD....ferrari team has let Vettel down again....at least Seb did his best to catch up massa....btu the williams was soooo fast down the straights....

so we LOST a bagfull of points to williams now......bummer

[wickedf1]

Good drive Sebastian. Almost he is able to catch up but never we get more than .4 behind too much strait line speed. Okay but good points with position 4 with the crew problems. ;-)

[DJTaurus]

I am still waiting the Montreal upgrades to push those mercs who haven't even upgraded their engines yet..... New rules from scratch are needed. There is no point to continue watching the season.

[Kristof_F40]

These kind of mistakes can happen, they just shouldn't happen to often.
The fact is: Felipe drove a brilliant race! His pace was so much better than Bottas'. I mean, everyone is saying get rid of Kimi, get Bottas. But Bottas never has showed that he is clearly better than Felipe, en Felipe is the guy we ditched for Kimi. We can be thankfull we have Seb, he did a good race. As did Felipe. Merc is just a joke.
Also Kimi: spinning the car like that doesn't look to good does it? I expect him to do a very good Silverstone and Hungary...

[tifosi1993]

Also great race by Nico. Totally outperformed Hamilton today.

[Kristof_F40]

Mercs finished 20s or so ahead and still weren't pushing but saving everything...

[wickedf1]

This man Nico is beating Lewis on the track! congrats to him. :clap

[Hornet]

Too bad about the pit stop, but these things happen even to the best team.

Congrats to Massa for his podium finish.

Seems to me like Merc have been able to unleash additional performance from their PU reliability upgrade, the Merc powered teams are all noticeably better since Canada. :Hmm

[SinanOzerS]

I hate seeing those stupid Williams' getting points from us even with the slower car.

[Kristof_F40]

Also great race by Nico. Totally outperformed Hamilton today.

He was better whole the weekend only HAM did a better job in first lap in Q3. I hope it's not because of the track, but I hope he can continue this form. We need some fighting between these guys

[Ilsan]

Well, one thing is clear now. Marchionne isn't our lucky charm. :wave

Ironic. Canada and Austria where we expected to attack Mercedes and we didn't even manage a podium..

Massa, Rosbert, great drive.

[RedRebel40]

Ferrari should review its race operations. Yesterday the communication mistake and today the pitstop error.

[LivingHitokiri]

Blame the FIA, Bernie does not want a boring F1 as much as you.


The teams and the FIA make the rules, not Bernie.


It's not Bernie's fault, it's all about that old Todt man.


can not keep blaming Bernie. Bernie has done SOOOOOOO much for F1 over the years. Look where he has bought the sport from the 70s. From hardly any tv coverage, to now.

Maybe im thinking that Bernie got much more influence that he actually does , my bad.
It is sad tho that one of our ex Ferrari guy actually endorses the current F1 form, how much is Tod to be blamed here or mainly the smaller teams that complain about the costs?


Anyway boring race once more ...

[racingbradley]

I'm just glad Ferrari dumped Massa and signed Kimi. That's working out so well.

:-) +1

[Nova]

I remember when this forum was crazy on race day..So quiet now..nothing to do
w/the forum..still a great place..its just that the racing has gotten so bad.
Beautiful track, boring race..1 Ferrari fighting against what seems like
a million mercs. And the cars? They remind me of hot looking toyota prius's...
Theres no way we will see anything this year other than merc wins..
Can I see lemans again?

[F1NAC]

Awful weekend. Another gifted podium for williams. Shame about Seb. Our PU needs still a lot of work for matching Mercedes

[Kristof_F40]

Also, Super Soft tyres, are they ment to last a half race??? I feel sorry for Pirelli, they did what was asked and were blamed, so now they do this, which isn't what there supposed to do.. But this is bad.....

[wacc]

Good job Sebastian. It looks like Ferrari needs perfect weekend to stay ahead of Williams rather than beating Merc.
Hope this streak of not perfect races ends up soon.

[dpiatto]

Another predictable Merc 1,2 & we can always rely on the Merc B team buffer(Willliams) to stall our progress.
Pitstop typical our luck, not quite the Lewis show I was expecting & a pity Pastor didn't do what he does best.
Looking forward to the Blancpain 24hrs of Spa & next round of WEC.

[darkchild]

Dont really care about bad pit stop, they happen. Dont care about missed podium, they happen. But what I care about is Mercs advantage seems to get bigger and bigger.

[mark p]

These kind of mistakes can happen, they just shouldn't happen to often.
The fact is: Felipe drove a brilliant race! His pace was so much better than Bottas'. I mean, everyone is saying get rid of Kimi, get Bottas. But Bottas never has showed that he is clearly better than Felipe, en Felipe is the guy we ditched for Kimi. We can be thankfull we have Seb, he did a good race. As did Felipe. Merc is just a joke.
Also Kimi: spinning the car like that doesn't look to good does it? I expect him to do a very good Silverstone and Hungary...

Kimi is so bad right now he is on a slippery slope. Always a communication issue but only with him, always engine map makes the car spin but only him. If he does not improve Sergio may put Vergne in the car after the summer break.

Merc have now got their quali advantage in the race after sorting the engine knocking issue with the Canada reliability upgrades. Ferrari are pushing the limits but now got a few mistakes in the operation of the team and 1 driver whose form has fallen off the cliff like a 2012 tyre.

2 3rd places thrown away in 2 races.

[PURE PASSION]

Good job Sebastian. It looks like Ferrari needs perfect weekend to stay ahead of Williams rather than beating Merc.
Hope this streak of not perfect races ends up soon.

Loosing 10+ secin the pit stop is a lot more thenjust not having a perfect weekend!
If Ham had that bad moment,we could be 2nd!!So....!!