2017 Brazilian Interlagos GP - Race

[jgonzalesm6]

Beautiful day @ Interlagos.

Lets hope Seb and Kimi can take the fight to Bottas.

[nani_s23]

Sunny & pretty warm.
Hope Ferrari 1-2 finish. Good way to get back to rythm.

[jgonzalesm6]

Sunny & pretty warm.
Hope Ferrari 1-2 finish. Good way to get back to rythm.

Track temperature swings like a dubstep tune this weekend - 43-55C on Friday, 25-29C on Saturday and 57C again (!) today



Verstappen back to the older-spec Renault PU this weekend, so no more 0.2s per lap power advantage for him for now.

[vcs316]

Live links??

[KimiBot]

http://www.totalsportek.com/formula-1-live-stream/

[KimiBot]

https://www.vipstand.is/formula-1-live-sports-stream

[KimiBot]

https://nl.vipleague.me/sports/formula-1.html

[FerrariF60]

Track temperature swings like a dubstep tune this weekend - 43-55C on Friday, 25-29C on Saturday and 57C again (!) today



Verstappen back to the older-spec Renault PU this weekend, so no more 0.2s per lap power advantage for him for now.

did they revert to the older power unit overnight??? or was he running the older spec engine throughout Quali??
what was the reason for reverting??? reliabillity issue??

[jgonzalesm6]

Merc have taken the opportunity to fit a new V6 engine, turbo and MGUH to Hamilton's car. All of a new spec (2018 prep?).

[jgonzalesm6]

did they revert to the older power unit overnight??? or was he running the older spec engine throughout Quali??
what was the reason for reverting??? reliabillity issue??

yep

[FerrariF60]

Merc have taken the opportunity to fit a new V6 engine, turbo and MGUH to Hamilton's car. All of a new spec (2018 prep?).

new spec, hopefully NOT fully tested adn maybe, just maybe we'lll see some smoke show coming from the back of the TAIL PIPE......LOL

[jgonzalesm6]

Distance to T1 is just 275m which is short - joint-7th shortest of the year w/ Singapore. So no need to be a hero @ the start.

[KimiBot]

Hopefully great racing today, weather at least is perfect.

[nani_s23]

High track temp 58c

[KimiBot]

High track temp 58c

so, possible 2 stops for everyone

[Scuderia85]

FORZA Ferrari

Hope that the high temps will suit fit us

[FerrariF60]

so, possible 2 stops for everyone

maybe.....i hope so.............i hate a boring ONE STOPPER

[Christopher]

Problems for kimi :-(

[mwk360]

Ferrari a mess as usual

[FerrariF60]

so much for trying to get a ferrari 1-2
problems on kimis car

[Ferrarichamp]

what's going on?

[jgonzalesm6]

Issues wth Raikonen's car on the grid.

Mechanics have a panel open under the right side pod and mechanics are trying to diagnose the issue

[mwk360]

they said they rectified it, lets hope its not another japan gp rectify job

[KimiBot]

our team usually fix all the problems, it is not often that we do not have a car in any session,

[bonzo]

Issues wth Raikonen's car on the grid.

Mechanics have a panel open under the right side pod and mechanics are trying to diagnose the issue

Which spark plug today?

[Scuderia85]

kimi seams fine

[FerrariF60]

Which spark plug today?

no spark plug story today........some other issue

[bonzo]

our team usually fix all the problems, it is not often that we do not have a car in any session,

Fixing yes, but also creating them.

[jgonzalesm6]

And Kimi is back in the car, drama over

[stefa]

So is it fixed?

[FerrariF60]

track temp is REALLY HIGH....even higher then the hottest we had in free practice
so hopefully we'll have a TWO STOPPER

[Scuderia85]

Only telemety issues

[mwk360]

there was a problem with some signal i think with kimi's car, sending info to the team

[mwk360]

seb is so slow off the start in formation

[IulianFerrari]

They said to take it easy at the start to Raikkonen

[Ferrarichamp]

let's see how Max starts..

[stefa]

MV is so close to us....

[jgonzalesm6]

So is it fixed?

telemetry electrical issue

"We saw an issue with the telemetry and were worried we'd lose communication during the race," Ferrari tell Raikkonen

[IulianFerrari]

Inside line to Seb should suit him well

[FerrariF60]

let's see how Max starts..

hopefully poor start

[nani_s23]

I'm feared about mad max starts

[mwk360]

SEBBBBBBBBB!!!!!!!!!!!!

[stefa]

SC

[nani_s23]

Good start

[fronaldo]

SC out..Hamilton can podium

[KimiBot]

looks good

[nani_s23]

This is handing adv to hamster

[mwk360]

damnit bottas is going to have a giant straight to pass vettel after safety car

[nani_s23]

damnit bottas is going to have a giant straight to pass vettel after safety car

Vet can dictate pace under SC

[FerrariF60]

This is handing adv to hamster

yeah, he'll prolly be on the podium.....all due to rookies at teh start of race causing safety car

[KimiBot]

Alo P5

[mwk360]

Seb Please win :pray

[mwk360]

Vet can dictate pace under SC

no drs on the straight after first corners right??

[nani_s23]

Alonso p5.

[fronaldo]

Always something happen when Ferrari is leading

[Rob]

missed the start, was prepping roast chicken. WOW what a start from Seb. And fair play to Bottas for not doing the normal pole sitter start.

[FerrariF60]

no drs on the straight after first corners right??

yup, NO DRS

[Rob]

Always something happen when Ferrari is leading

dont tempt fate

[bonzo]

Bot will overtake Seb in drs zone

[IulianFerrari]

Hope our guys can keep position

[Christopher]

Seb 1.1sec gap to bottas

[nani_s23]

They r showing only ham laps.....pretty stupid broadcast

[superwonderboy]

OMW!�� this is hamilton tv!

[bonzo]

Ham may gat poduim, already in the points

[FerrariF60]

OMW!�� this is hamilton tv!

well he's doing all teh passing, NO?????

[nani_s23]

This is just bad coverage.

[nani_s23]

Ham may gat poduim, already in the points

For him target is Kimi ....so Kimi need to show consistent pace n undercut bottas.

[superwonderboy]

well he's doing all teh passing, NO?????

Agree, but it is happend far to often this year. We recieved very little air time this year.

[Ferrarichamp]

Hopefully Max will fight hard vs Ham.

[nani_s23]

Huhhhh kimi

[nani_s23]

Vet is slower than bottas on last 2 laps. Infact both Ferrari cars are slower than bottas

[nani_s23]

Kimi struggling with tyres. Sliding all around

[IulianFerrari]

Mercedes is the faster car also

[FerrariF60]

1.7s to bottas now.....

[FerrariF60]

hopefully NOT USA race all over again......when ew had the lead but a handful of laps later Luwise passed us

[fronaldo]

FL for Hammy

[stefa]

At this rate LH can challenge for the win

[Red is Best]

Funny how Massa defends tooth and nail when a Ferrari is behind, yet doesn't oppose any resistance when it's a Mercedes. I surely won't miss him next year.

[IulianFerrari]

If it wasnt for that safety car we would have 2 ferraris on the podium. Right now it looks loke there is going to be only 1

[superwonderboy]

Crofty and co. nw calculating if hamilton can possibly win the race. I'm so sick and tired of this ferrari hating. It's getting abit overboard now and crofty is leading this personal attack on ferrari. This has got to stop. Commentary is supposed to proffesional neutral and fair.

[Rob]

Funny how Massa defends tooth and nail when a Ferrari is behind, yet doesn't oppose any resistance when it's a Mercedes. I surely won't miss him next year.

what engine is in the back of the Williams? and there is your answer.

[stefa]

Pace LH is showing is frightening!!!!

[fronaldo]

Bottas pit

[nani_s23]

Crofty and co. nw calculating if hamilton can possibly win the race. I'm so sick and tired of this ferrari hating. It's getting abit overboard now and crofty is leading this personal attack on ferrari. This has got to stop. Commentary is supposed to proffesional neutral and fair.

Yup....these guys are sick. Sooo much biased towards British drivers. N team

[FerrariF60]

we should pit Seb now too

[nani_s23]

Pace LH is showing is frightening!!!!

LH got new engine n parts

[nani_s23]

we should pit Seb now too

He comes back of massa if he does so

[Rob]

2.1 stop there for Seb wow

[fronaldo]

So so close

[superwonderboy]

Pace LH is showing is frightening!!!!

I still believe mercedes are bluffing the FIA. How fast are they really??

[nani_s23]

Wow look at ric good move

[ferrari1.8t]

Crofty and co. nw calculating if hamilton can possibly win the race. I'm so sick and tired of this ferrari hating. It's getting abit overboard now and crofty is leading this personal attack on ferrari. This has got to stop. Commentary is supposed to proffesional neutral and fair.

x2. The Hamilton show is getting old, really old. I personally am so sick of it. Also, the fact that Hamilton can reach the podium from starting last is scary, this isn't a formula, this is domination like we have never seen. Hope for a better 2018.

[FerrariF60]

seb keeps pumping teh fastest laps.....hopefully he will NOT take to much life out of the tires.......geesh , lots of laps to go to the end

[nani_s23]

Mercs gonna use LH for bottas

[nani_s23]

Kimi should have gotten bottas. That would have changed equation.
Now vet needs to fight with ham n bottas

[LivingHitokiri]

Kimi flying!

[Ferrarichamp]

when will ham pit?

[tifosi1993]

Car is certainly working well on soft tyres.

[jgonzalesm6]

Awful tactics from Ferrari - didn't pre-empt Bottas undercut. Pirelli advised lap 26, should've pitted Vettel as early as is humanly possible. (Even if they fear soft tyre wear in the heat, track position is king.) Vettel must've did superhuman in & outlaps here.

[FerrariF60]

looking at the laptimes and sector times, SEB cannot match on newer tires hamiltons' times on much older tires....??????

[IulianFerrari]

Kimi should have gotten bottas. That would have changed equation.
Now vet needs to fight with ham n bottas

They have the faster car mate

[gump1480]

He just doesnt wanna catch him and destroy his tires

[jgonzalesm6]

No sign of high tyre wear for Hamilton yet. Races Raikkonen & Verstappen for 3rd, currently 17s ahead of Kimi. Remember, pit loss under green is 22s here.

[FerrariF60]

Car is certainly working well on soft tyres.

which???? ours or Lewises.....he's on older tires and seb cannot go faster on MUCH newer tires

[Christopher]

Hamilton is scary fast

[Schumiklub]

I'm thinking Vet might be saving the tyres for the time Ham pits. Kimi driving faster.

[Greig]

Awful tactics from Ferrari - didn't pre-empt Bottas undercut. Pirelli advised lap 26, should've pitted Vettel as early as is humanly possible. (Even if they fear soft tyre wear in the heat, track position is king.) Vettel must've did superhuman in & outlaps here.

Well that's easy to say after Bottas pits, sadly Merc don't tell Ferrari when they will pit...but yeah slate the team cause you call it after the event LOL

[stefa]

looking at the laptimes and sector times, SEB cannot match on newer tires hamiltons' times on much older tires....??????

He does not need to catch him. He'll just stuck behind him and destroy his tyres

[jgonzalesm6]

Lewis Hamilton from the back in #F1...

���� 2010, P20 to P6
���� 2012, P24 to P8
���� 2014, P20 to P3
���� 2014, P22 to P3
���� 2016, P22 to P7
���� 2016, P21 to P3
���� 2017, P20 to ???

[bonzo]

looking at the laptimes and sector times, SEB cannot match on newer tires hamiltons' times on much older tires....??????

Seb is nursing the tires

[bonzo]

Seb is racing Bot, not Ham

[gump1480]

which???? ours or Lewises.....he's on older tires and seb cannot go faster on MUCH newer tires

vet just driving as slowly is needed to win this race

[FerrariF60]

vet just driving as slowly is needed to win this race

yeah, u're right

[Ferrarichamp]

finally

[gump1480]

Lewis Hamilton from the back in #F1...

���� 2010, P20 to P6
���� 2012, P24 to P8
���� 2014, P20 to P3
���� 2014, P22 to P3
���� 2016, P22 to P7
���� 2016, P21 to P3
���� 2017, P20 to ???

???? = P4 max if he can overtake the stupid max

[LivingHitokiri]

Kimi!

[Ferrarichamp]

Max is our rear gunner

[Red is Best]

Hamilton's flying.

[FerrariF60]

Hamilton's flying.

brand new supersoft tires, no brainer

[gump1480]

brand new supersoft tires, no brainer

and a brand new 2018 beta spec engine

[nani_s23]

Ham will get Kimi at the end

[jgonzalesm6]

Gasly makes a move on Stroll into T1 and he's up to P13.
Hamilton behind coming up to lap them

[nani_s23]

Max is our rear gunner

He's struggling with left front tyre

[IulianFerrari]

Good race from our boys so far

[tifosi1993]

Nice job Stroll!

[FerrariF60]

Ham will get Kimi at the end

sadly it may happen..........and as usual Kimi will NOT put any kind of fight as usual....:(

[nani_s23]

Wt a lucky guy ham is. ..he got SC early n few cars are out.

[Christopher]

Hamilton will get raikkonen

[nani_s23]

Kimi needs to take bottas. That will be good for him

[IulianFerrari]

sadly it may happen..........and as usual Kimi will NOT put any kind of fight as usual....:(

Kimi looks faster than Bottas

[FerrariF60]

Kimi needs to take bottas. That will be good for him

that would be a massive effort from kimi..........firstly he has to WAKE up......lol

[bonzo]

Kimi needs to take bottas. That will be good for him

He is closing on him

[stefa]

KR cannot make two consecutive laps faster than VB

[FerrariF60]

KR cannot make two consecutive laps faster than VB

lol.....agian TOO much of Kimi to ask....

[IulianFerrari]

that would be a massive effort from kimi..........firstly he has to WAKE up......lol

He is awake, less than 5 sec from leader.

[LivingHitokiri]

KIMI PUSHING!

[superwonderboy]

This obsession from Ham to beat Seb is seriously crazy. He has won the WDC, but still is obsessed with beating Seb at every chance he gets.

[bonzo]

KIMI PUSHING!

Still away from drs possibility

[stefa]

KR is not safe from LH

[Kristof_F40]

Awful tactics from Ferrari - didn't pre-empt Bottas undercut. Pirelli advised lap 26, should've pitted Vettel as early as is humanly possible. (Even if they fear soft tyre wear in the heat, track position is king.) Vettel must've did superhuman in & outlaps here.

Undercut less efficient at interlagos and if he would have done that, Merc could have opted to keep BOT out and let HAM slow VET down, so BOTwould be in front..

[fronaldo]

Bottas less than 2.5 s of Vettel

[nani_s23]

KR is not safe from LH

He's gonna get him easily.

[stefa]

LH FL below 1:12

[stefa]

He's gonna get him easily.

Absolutely

[nani_s23]

LH FL below 1:12

That engine is beast

[jgonzalesm6]

Undercut less efficient at interlagos and if he would have done that, Merc could have opted to keep BOT out and let HAM slow VET down, so BOTwould be in front..

good point

[FerrariF60]

Absolutely

sadly YES

[fronaldo]

Hammy will pass Kimi..Sub 1.12s from him..Fastest lap ever

[LivingHitokiri]

OMG BLUE FLASGS JESUS

[JPA]

sadly it may happen..........and as usual Kimi will NOT put any kind of fight as usual....:(

You really are sad person - true Merc supporter.
How Kimi should fight in this case? Build a new engine and get +30hp? Change new tyres without any time loss?

[tifosi1993]

I dont think Kimi can keep that Mercedes behind.

[tifosi1993]

11.8 LH :-??

[fronaldo]

1.11.0s from .Verstappen ..What the..

[458 Italia]

Please keep hamilton off the podium.

[fronaldo]

Under Hammy DRS Kimi

[LivingHitokiri]

1.11.0s from .Verstappen ..What the..

Fresh tires, low fuel.

[jgonzalesm6]

1:11.044 for Verstappen.

New lap record for Autodromo Jose Carlos Pace

[Scuderia85]

come on Kimi be hard now

[stefa]

VB is also faster than SV

[Christopher]

Hamilton runined his tyres with that lock up

[458 Italia]

I doubt kimi has much of a defence against hamilton if he gets close enough.

[stefa]

Hamilton runined his tyres with that lock up

Hope enough not to catch KR

[paolo lalli]

Now you understand why the owners of f1 want changes from pit lane to podium cars are miles apart and results to predictable this will kill the sport what in hell are other teams doing just wasting millions for nothing going round and round with no chance of ever achieving any thing.

[DelMar]

VB is also faster than SV
He has 8 lap odds SS versus 40 laps old softs....

[fronaldo]

Come on Kimi...Fight

[tifosi1993]

C'mon Kimi

[nani_s23]

C'mon Kimi .....

[stefa]

Keep it KR

[SilverSpeed]

COME ON KIMI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And yay Vettel!!!!

[stefa]

SV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[stefa]

:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl :ferrarifl:ferrarifl

[nani_s23]

Very good from Kimi....good drive n defence

[FerrariF60]

C'mon Kimi .....

kimi did it.....he kept Lewise behind.....

[tifosi1993]

Well done Vettel

Well done Kimi

:ferrarifl

[Schumiklub]

Awesome race by both drivers. A bit too late, though.

[Christopher]

Yessss

[Ferrarichamp]

but wait, I thought Ham was supposed to pass Kimi easy :-D

[Driver]

Nice :ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl

[Christopher]

What a drive from kimi those last 5 laps

[LivingHitokiri]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

[nani_s23]

What a drive from kimi those last 5 laps

Yeah fantastic, hes using that last sector to his strength with those tyres

[KimiBot]

WELL DONE KIMI!!!!

[IulianFerrari]

but wait, I thought Ham was supposed to pass Kimi easy :-D

Yeah "absolutely"

[fronaldo]

We get our win at Interlagos after 9 years

[LivingHitokiri]

Kimi answered many in here who take the opportunity to criticize Kimi at every moment.

GRANDE KIMI!

[nani_s23]

These commentators & commentary holly ***.
When vet won they talk abt Lewis drive to 4th

[jgonzalesm6]

We get our win at Interlagos after 9 years

Great drive by both drivers

[fronaldo]

We need today Kimi next year..

[LivingHitokiri]

Yeah fantastic, hes using that last sector to his strength with those tyres

Second sector, he was losing on first and 3rd, he was gianing on second which didnt allow hamilton to get near him.

[paolo lalli]

Well done great momentum moving foward.

[KimiBot]

2 drivers on podium, that is something

[IulianFerrari]

Great job from our boys. Seb kept it clean, very profesional job. Tight race, Mercedes slightly the faster car imo

[Schumiklub]

Seb drove a faultless race, as did Kimi.

[JPA]

Kimi answered many in here who take the opportunity to criticize Kimi at every moment.

GRANDE KIMI!

There are some Ferrari supporters in this forum who stay here only for crying about Kimi - so it seems.

[stefa]

Seb drove a faultless race, as did Kimi.
Very nice race from both drivers!!!

[DIEK]

https://images.cdn.circlesix.co/image/uploads/posts/2017/07/455ea04bf71dde466ed635316fed7e59.gif

[fronaldo]

Crofty so down Hamilton not winning today

[LivingHitokiri]

There are some Ferrari supporters in this forum who stay here only for crying about Kimi - so it seems.

Yeap, for couple of years now, especially Alonso/Massa fans.

[KimiBot]

We need today Kimi next year..

yeah, that was nice to see

[stefa]

Hopefully we are going to listen to these two anthems a lot more next year!

[Schumiklub]

Now the best anthem combo ever!

[tifosi1993]

Kimi answered many in here who take the opportunity to criticize Kimi at every moment.

GRANDE KIMI!

So Raikkonen shouldn't be criticized for his performance? Just because he got a podium today we should forget his below per performance in other races?

Man Kimi fanboys are hilarious.

[fronaldo]

Finally we get to hear lovely Italian anthem..I missed it

[Greig]

Quite a boring race really will take the win though. Lewis pace was a bit worrying though. Don't see why Kimi is answering critics by finishing behind Bottas?

[FerrariF60]

Now the best anthem combo ever!

no doubt.....i get goosebumps everytime i hear that combo of anthems.....ike the glory days of when Schumi used to race for Ferrari

[KimiBot]

:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl

[Rishu]

Great result for the team, I loved junior Massa’s radio to dad. Hamilton had pace to destroy everyone if not for quali crash, it’s a worry

[JPA]

So Raikkonen shouldn't be criticized for his performance? Just because he got a podium today we should forget his below per performance in other races?

Man Kimi fanboys are hilarious.

Not as hilarious as Kimi haters. Nothing is enough for you guys. When your loved one does mistakes you ignore it or blame Kimi if you can. When Kimi does well with less power Ferrari you surely find something to blame. Some of us are supporters some are critics - guess we have to live with that.

[Greig]

Not as hilarious as Kimi haters. Nothing is enough for you guys. When your loved one does mistakes you ignore it or blame Kimi if you can. When Kimi does well with less power Ferrari you surely find something to blame. Some of us are supporters some are critics - guess we have to live with that.

So finishing behind Bottas is doing well?

[Schumiklub]

Great result for the team, I loved junior Massa’s radio to dad. Hamilton had pace to destroy everyone if not for quali crash, it’s a worry

We had the pace to destroy everyone in Malaysia had it not been for engine troubles. :) What goes around comes around.

[nani_s23]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES


So Raikkonen shouldn't be criticized for his performance? Just because he got a podium today we should forget his below per performance in other races?

Man Kimi fanboys are hilarious.

:rotfl

[Ferrarichamp]

Hungary feels like soooo long ago. I couldn't believe we'd go half a season without a win, and we've done it today. Hopefully we'll win the last one too.

[KimiBot]

Massa last time in Interlagos....this year:-)

[nani_s23]

But we need to improve our race pace. That mercs with that engine modes looked beast.

[tifosi1993]

Not as hilarious as Kimi haters. Nothing is enough for you guys. When your loved one does mistakes you ignore it or blame Kimi if you can. When Kimi does well with less power Ferrari you surely find something to blame. Some of us are supporters some are critics - guess we have to live with that.

Yeah we get it. Its never poor ol Kimi's fault. Hasn't won a single race in last 3 years when his teammate won multiple races and challenged for championship.

But YAY he got a podium so everything is forgiven!

[Ferrarichamp]

So finishing behind Bottas is doing well?

well Bottas did start from pole.

[wacc]

Congratulation to Ferrari for almost perfect result. :clap Always a great feeling when Ferrari win even if the championship is decided. I would love to see Kimi on top after the next race.

[Greig]

well Bottas did start from pole.

And? Seb won from 2nd...

[Rishu]

well Bottas did start from pole.

Hamilton started last, Kimi finished barely a second ahead of him

[KimiBot]

Abu Dhabi next, two weeks, see you guys then

:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl

[Ferrarichamp]

And? Seb won from 2nd...

which I predicted :-D

[Ferrarichamp]

Hamilton started last, Kimi finished barely a second ahead of him

well Kimi finished 4.6 sec behind Seb, which is +0.06 per lap. Not a huge gap really.

[FerrariF60]

Hamilton started last, Kimi finished barely a second ahead of him

yeah, but hamster got lucky with the safety car..........that's where he gained majority of the time

[IulianFerrari]

Hamilton started last, Kimi finished barely a second ahead of him

Mercedes was the faster car today

[IulianFerrari]

yeah, but hamster got lucky with the safety car..........that's where he gained majority of the time
He did well all race mate, except for the last part. It was the fastest car on track today, which honestly questions Bottas's performance more than anything.

[nani_s23]

Mercedes was the faster car today

But still Ferrari were able to keep them behind.
That mercs is vulnerable under dirty air, so ham was loosing alot in 2nd sector while gaining on other sectors. He's lost traction turn 12 couple of times.

[FerrariF60]

He did well all race mate, except for the last part. It was the fastest car on track today, which honestly questions Bottas's performance more than anything.

lewise had a brand new engine compared to bottas's older engine.......also hamster was on faster tire at the end, which also makes him faster

[JPA]

Yeah we get it. Its never poor ol Kimi's fault. Hasn't won a single race in last 3 years when his teammate won multiple races and challenged for championship.

But YAY he got a podium so everything is forgiven!

Difference that you can`t understand = Sometimes its but it is not reason to stop supporting. Sometimes its not and then you should not still try to put it in Kimis fault.

For example today he held he`s position against much better car and Bot did not get away - with much better car. Still you keep womiting bad things about Kimi. But hey, it`s just you, no hard feelings.

[superwonderboy]

Mercedes was the faster car today

Vers did do 1.11 flat.

[nani_s23]

lewise had a brand new engine compared to bottas's older engine.......also hamster was on faster tire at the end, which also makes him faster

1. He's lucky to have SC & incidents where other cars are out.
2. He has brand new engine with new parts too.
3. He's on fastest tyre at the end.

SC+strategy+ brand new engine drove him to 4th.

Track record goes to mad max 1.11.0

[Rob]

Quite a boring race really will take the win though. Lewis pace was a bit worrying though. Don't see why Kimi is answering critics by finishing behind Bottas?

Kimi drove really well.

Must admit the race was abit boring. Lewis and his pace, was expected really after having new engine fitted. Only got to do today and last race, so they can afford to turn all modes upto 11.

[nani_s23]

Vers did do 1.11 flat.

He was on brand new Softs. Where track was rubbered in more at the end.

[icedeepan]

This is how I think Seb would have headed into Abu Dhabi if not for the disasters that befell! Know if, could and should don't matter but we really shot ourselves in the foot big time!

Monza -> -3 deficit
Singapore -> +7 (Seb 1st, Ham 3rd)
Malaysia -> +10 (Seb 2nd, Ham 3rd)
Japan -> +3 (Ham 1st, Seb 2nd)
US -> -4 (Ham 1st, Seb 2nd)
Mexico -> +6 (Seb 4th, Ham 9th)
Brazil -> +19 (Seb 1st, Ham 4th)
Abu Dhabi -> 06th Place would have been enough to seal title!

[Ferrarichamp]

maybe it's just me, but when we win, it never seems boring :clap

[LivingHitokiri]

So Raikkonen shouldn't be criticized for his performance? Just because he got a podium today we should forget his below per performance in other races?

Man Kimi fanboys are hilarious.

yeah its hilarious when you claim to be a Ferrari fan and bash the driver all the time and wanting to replace him after every time he either struggles or got problem.
You may not like him but at least dont pretend to like him, its even worse.


In this thread alone look how many were saying that Hamilton will breeze pass through him.

[FerrariF60]

Vers did do 1.11 flat.

exactly.....lewise did 1.11.8 on more worn worn tires while Max did 1.11 flat on new tires.....so the merc was faster but THAT much scary fast

[LivingHitokiri]

well Kimi finished 4.6 sec behind Seb, which is +0.06 per lap. Not a huge gap really.

Shhh, it doesnt support the narrative that Kimi sucks.

[Rob]

This is how I think Seb would have headed into Abu Dhabi if not for the disasters that befell! Know if, could and should don't matter but we really shot ourselves in the foot big time!

Monza -> -3 deficit
Singapore -> +7 (Seb 1st, Ham 3rd)
Malaysia -> +10 (Seb 2nd, Ham 3rd)
Japan -> +3 (Ham 1st, Seb 2nd)
US -> -4 (Ham 1st, Seb 2nd)
Mexico -> +6 (Seb 4th, Ham 9th)
Brazil -> +19 (Seb 1st, Ham 4th)
Abu Dhabi -> 06th Place would have been enough to seal title!

Whats the point of this? its done sealed and sitting on Lewis private jet. Lets finish on a high in last race and head into winter on a great push.

[zike]

exactly.....lewise did 1.11.8 on more worn worn tires while Max did 1.11 flat on new tires.....so the merc was faster but THAT much scary fast

Yes their engine is still on another planet

[LivingHitokiri]

Hamilton started last, Kimi finished barely a second ahead of him

Watch the race and maybe youl know there was a Safety car at beginning of it.

[Rob]

yeah its hilarious when you claim to be a Ferrari fan and bash the driver all the time and wanting to replace him after every time he either struggles or got problem.
You may not like him but at least dont pretend to like him, its even worse.


In this thread alone look how many were saying that Hamilton will breeze pass through him.

Lewis couldnt get close in sector 2 as the Merc was understeering like a heavy shopping cart. If Lewis would been stay close to Kimi through S2 and S3 he would of blown by Kimi into T1 or through the Senna S. Anyway, he finished P3, good solid race.

[LivingHitokiri]

Whats the point of this? its done sealed and sitting on Lewis private jet. Lets finish on a high in last race and head into winter on a great push.

Well said!

[icedeepan]

Whats the point of this? its done sealed and sitting on Lewis private jet. Lets finish on a high in last race and head into winter on a great push.

No real point. Just motivation to go for it harder and cleaner next year (for us fans as well)!

[LivingHitokiri]

Lewis couldnt get close in sector 2 as the Merc was understeering like a heavy shopping cart. If Lewis would been stay close to Kimi through S2 and S3 he would of blown by Kimi into T1 or through the Senna S. Anyway, he finished P3, good solid race.

He did breeze through Verstapen who had the best s2 on the race.

Overtakes happen on S1 and 3. Hamilton had better tries, fresh engine and tried to outbreak Kimi, he couldnt.

You could make the same argument for Kimi not passing Bottas when kimi was driving faster than him.

[tifosi1993]

yeah its hilarious when you claim to be a Ferrari fan and bash the driver all the time and wanting to replace him after every time he either struggles or got problem.
You may not like him but at least dont pretend to like him, its even worse.


In this thread alone look how many were saying that Hamilton will breeze pass through him.

And any reasonable Ferrari supporter will criticize Kimi for his horrible performance race after race. And why would I pretend to like him? He is Ferrari's biggest liability.

[Christopher]

Kimi shows flashes of the driver he used to be but he's far to inconsistent nowadays

[nani_s23]

yeah its hilarious when you claim to be a Ferrari fan and bash the driver all the time and wanting to replace him after every time he either struggles or got problem.
You may not like him but at least dont pretend to like him, its even worse.


In this thread alone look how many were saying that Hamilton will breeze pass through him.

I don't know why, there is different reaction or people take it in different way when one of the driver get accused.
As a fan there's every right to point out what is correct & wt is wrong. It's just internal discussion.
We had strong car this season, Kimi did let the team down on more than couple of occasions. At the same time, he did good in couple of races (Monaco, Hungary, Brazil). Wt abt the rest ????

As a Ferrari fan expect Ferrari winning race weekend. 3rd place finishes are not enough to claim WCC, when your team mate has off day.

[LivingHitokiri]

And any reasonable Ferrari supporter will criticize Kimi for his horrible performance race after race. And why would I pretend to like him? He is Ferrari's biggest liability.

Specific people which i mentioned criticize Kimi when its not even his fault and keep discrediting him when he drives well.

It couldn't be more obvious, for years now.

We get it, you wanted Alonso or Massa instead but at least put some respect on the Ferrari champion which these both never are.

[Greig]

Specific people which i mentioned criticize Kimi when its not even his fault and keep discrediting him when he drives well.

It couldn't be more obvious, for years now.

We get it, you wanted Alonso or Massa instead but at least put some respect on the Ferrari champion which these both never are.

Ah the champion card played, well done LOL

[LivingHitokiri]

I don't know why, there is different reaction or people take it in different way when one of the driver get accused.
As a fan there's every right to point out what is correct & wt is wrong. It's just internal discussion.
We had strong car this season, Kimi did let the team down on more than couple of occasions. At the same time, he did good in couple of races (Monaco, Hungary, Brazil). Wt abt the rest ????

As a Ferrari fan expect Ferrari winning race weekend. 3rd place finishes are not enough to claim WCC, when your team mate has off day.
Vettel had a day off now....

See how easily you continue to discredit anything he does ?
We had a good car but we also had plenty of problems with the car, this is why we didn't win the championship.

Sure you can also blame Kimi for getting hammered in Singapore, couple of times by Bottas taking him out and car troubles be my guest but the fact is he didnt got remotely bad as many promote him in here.