PDA

View Full Version : 2018 Australian GP Free Practice and Qualifying



Pages : [1] 2 3

f412
22nd March 2018, 20:33
:pray:pray:pray:pray:pray finally going to see our cars on track...

f412
22nd March 2018, 20:35
how many more hours ??? just 4 and a half ey??

paolo lalli
22nd March 2018, 21:21
Melbourne is buzzing the city is alive.

paolo lalli
22nd March 2018, 21:30
Sunny today 29 dry free practice saturday and sunday rain and showers 70 to 90% interesting race day a little like winter testing only warmer with humidity the current preperations go out the door new strategies for all really intersting weekend ahead melbourne loves ferrari and daniel riccardo huge italian influence in melbourne win loose or draw they are one eyed true passion can do no wrong.

killer
22nd March 2018, 23:19
:ferrarifl

Forza Ferrari! Looking forward to an exciting and successful season for us.

FerrariSteve
22nd March 2018, 23:30
Forza Ferrari!
A pox on Mercedes and Hamilton!

Hornet
22nd March 2018, 23:55
Time to see how our new car is. :pass

Michal2_F1
23rd March 2018, 00:52
I hope this is finally a year the drought will be ended. Happy season everyone! Forza Ferrari!

mardyrt
23rd March 2018, 01:07
Hey!! No smoke!!!

FerrariF60
23rd March 2018, 01:14
That rear wing on the red bull.......:-E sooooooo skinny, they don’t need that much wing I guess due to it having so much downforce

mardyrt
23rd March 2018, 01:16
Our cars started and there was no smoke whatsoever, or I missed it!
And these commentators, never said anything about it! Typical!!

jgonzalesm6
23rd March 2018, 01:25
Absolute lap record: 1:22.188 – Lewis Hamilton, 2017 Q3

Race lap record: 1:24.125 – Michael Schumacher, 2004

2017 P1 fastest lap: 1:24.220 – Lewis Hamilton

2017 P2 fastest lap: 1:23.620 – Lewis Hamilton

2017 P3 fastest lap: 1:23.380 – Sebastian Vettel

2017 fastest race lap: 1:26.538 – Kimi Raikkonen

jgonzalesm6
23rd March 2018, 01:32
Hamilton's on-board.....??? You can't see crap!!!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY77jITWkAA7Z9a.jpg

FerrariF60
23rd March 2018, 01:36
Hamilton's on-board.....??? You can't see crap!!!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY77jITWkAA7Z9a.jpg

ThTs why I hate that &$##$& flip flop

hakanabi
23rd March 2018, 01:38
That halo looks awfully bad. Makes the cars look sooo
ugly.

Kyss4k
23rd March 2018, 01:39
This can't survive... It's the most ridiculous and dumb looking thing, that was ever put on a formula car ever.

FerrariF60
23rd March 2018, 01:40
That halo looks awfully bad. Makes the car look soon ugly.

Apparently it’s NOT about da looks mate, it’s about safety......ha, go figure

I still &$##@$&$ hate it......as I’m sure deep down all drivers do

WS6TransAm01
23rd March 2018, 01:41
I don't know if I can do an entire season listening to the Sky commentators. Damn you ESPN!

hakanabi
23rd March 2018, 01:42
Yes, I am aware of that and understand the reason for it. It just looks so ugly, that's all.

hakanabi
23rd March 2018, 01:43
Apparently it’s NOT about da looks mate, it’s about safety......ha, go figure

I still &$##@$&$ hate it......as I’m sure deep down all drivers do

Yes, I am aware of that and understand the reason for it. It just looks so ugly, that's all.

JPBD
23rd March 2018, 01:43
Early doors but pace looks good on soft tyres. Car looks planted, merc is moving around quite a lot. Halo is a joke. Onboard shots are dead. Wow. I’m so sad. I’m actually mourning for this sport I love so much.

jgonzalesm6
23rd March 2018, 01:49
times so far

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY7-ZwnXUAAt3ic.jpg

Deephouse
23rd March 2018, 02:16
We should try going on the US tyres.

paolo lalli
23rd March 2018, 02:17
Car is twitchy a bit of a diva its fast but setting up is a bit of a problem according to reporters on the ground in melbourne lets see.

Kyss4k
23rd March 2018, 02:17
We should try going on the US tyres.

I guess we will try it in FP2. It'll be more representative as the track will be cleaner and also we did bring more soft tyres, then others.

ferrari1.8t
23rd March 2018, 02:22
any reliable streams?

Kyss4k
23rd March 2018, 02:23
I don't get, why there are the team logos next tho driver names on the timing screen when we already have the team color there... it's redundant, chose one on the other! This space could have been used for (for example) a tyre compound the lap was done on. Or in the race the number of stops, etc...

jgonzalesm6
23rd March 2018, 02:25
times so far


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY8GZnvXUAAjLx0.jpg:large

WS6TransAm01
23rd March 2018, 02:25
I love the wall of mechanics covering the entrance to the Ferrari garage lol

What happens to their smoke screen?

jgonzalesm6
23rd March 2018, 02:28
mechanics form a human wall around kimi's car as they drill the floor.....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY8Hs_QVMAA774U.jpg

ElTigro
23rd March 2018, 02:30
I don't get, why there are the team logos next tho driver names on the timing screen when we already have the team color there... it's redundant, chose one on the other! This space could have been used for (for example) a tyre compound the lap was done on. Or in the race the number of stops, etc...I agree so stupid. You think liberty could get it right being a media company.

Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk

f412
23rd March 2018, 02:36
kimi is faster than seb on harder compounds ?? still no clue as of where we stand..

Deephouse
23rd March 2018, 02:37
I think it is obvious there is sandbagging going on at Ferrari.

hakanabi
23rd March 2018, 02:37
kimi is faster than seb on harder compounds ?? still no clue as of where we stand..

We shall have a better idea come second practice.

Kyss4k
23rd March 2018, 02:39
And the quality comentary... none of those two guys behind the microphone noticed, that Ferrari drivers did their laps on harder tyres, then those infront and behind them, but they still were comparing them.

jgonzalesm6
23rd March 2018, 02:46
end of FP1

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY8Ky1DXkAIHArP.jpg


sector times

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY8KuBvX0AIdJtc.jpg

ferrari1.8t
23rd March 2018, 02:48
And the quality comentary... none of those two guys behind the microphone noticed, that Ferrari drivers did their laps on harder tyres, then those infront and behind them, but they still were comparing them.

nope... instead its all "Hamilton, Hamilton, Hamilton...." puke. I hope Ferrari stuns everyone!

jgonzalesm6
23rd March 2018, 02:50
Well, I gotta say, between the halo obstructing camera angles, effing synth music, F1 music and shifting stream angles......:-D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDVvUU5MT50

nani_s23
23rd March 2018, 02:54
FP1 view:

Ferrari car has good rear end grip. If this car gets perfect balance n set-up I think it will take the challenge to mercs.

paolo lalli
23rd March 2018, 02:56
Not bad considering the tyre compound we used merc used the faster tyre i doubt if they have anything left on that compound 2nd session we will run them then we will see the pecking order and any possible advantage exists remember all will be different tomorrow.

FerrariF60
23rd March 2018, 05:28
WTching Fp2.....not looking good for us boys....just like the predictors...were 3rd best team behind red fools and Merc

Not a good feeling I have for race day and quali

Unless we carry extra 40kg of fuel, which I highly doubt

f412
23rd March 2018, 05:29
WTching Fp2.....not looking good for us boys....just like the predictors...were 3rd best team behind red fools and Merc

Not a good feeling I have for race day and quali

:-(

angeljr
23rd March 2018, 05:33
1m24.460s US - Vettel qualifying sim.

FerrariF60
23rd March 2018, 05:38
1m24.460s US - Vettel qualifying sim.

Yeah but the mercs now in the 1:23...

They are just playing with us....their engine must be MEGA

JPBD
23rd March 2018, 05:40
I’m growing concerned, but I’m staying optimistic. Here’s hoping there is more to come.

nani_s23
23rd March 2018, 05:40
Is vet not pushing for quali lap or is he really struggling with the car.
In general diff to Kimi & vet from past couple of years its around .3-.5ths.

FerrariF60
23rd March 2018, 05:41
Is vet not pushing for quali lap or is he really struggling with the car.
In general diff to Kimi & vet from past couple of years its around .3-.5ths.

Prolly struggling with the set up of the car

Maybe Kimi more comfortable

Rishu
23rd March 2018, 05:43
Vettel not dialed in yet. Raikkonen showing the car can be a match to Mercedes if Vettel gets his act together

angeljr
23rd March 2018, 05:43
Is vet not pushing for quali lap or is he really struggling with the car.
In general diff to Kimi & vet from past couple of years its around .3-.5ths.

Both Kimi and Seb looking good in first and second sector but losing time in last sector. Kimi particularly is strong in middle sector

Rishu
23rd March 2018, 05:45
By Spain, Red Bull will be a serious title challenger

FerrariF60
23rd March 2018, 05:47
And the red fool of Max.....:-s that red fool is super quick.....no wonder Louise said that his worried about Max this year and no mention of Ferrari or Seb

FerrariF60
23rd March 2018, 05:47
By Spain, Red Bull will be a serious title challenger

I think it’s more like Melbourne mate

paolo lalli
23rd March 2018, 05:48
Vetal not enough track time he needs to get his act together and fast to much time setting up he needs to dial in.

jgonzalesm6
23rd March 2018, 05:48
RED FLAG ???

timing wire came loose

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY82YMYUQAAiGAl.jpg

angeljr
23rd March 2018, 05:50
Grosjean is just 2 tenths off of Vettel's lap time!

nani_s23
23rd March 2018, 05:51
Vet to grosjean only .2ths....!!! I don’t think it’s true pace from vet. But RBs looking quick.

zike
23rd March 2018, 05:52
Are we still sandbaging?

FerrariF60
23rd March 2018, 05:52
Grosjean is just 2 tenths off of Vettel's lap time!

Fourth best car this season.....so it makes sense, NO?

FerrariF60
23rd March 2018, 05:53
Are we still sandbaging?

No such thing as sand bagging mate nowadays

paolo lalli
23rd March 2018, 05:55
Red bulls are ahead of us at this point.

Christopher
23rd March 2018, 05:58
By Spain, Red Bull will be a serious title challenger

Engine will cost them and there is a good chance they will have to take penaltys

FerrariF60
23rd March 2018, 05:58
Red bulls are ahead of us at this point.

Yup, their aero is top notch, way better then US and much better then the Mercs....thank god they don’t have the Merc engine

paolo lalli
23rd March 2018, 05:59
Merc redbull ferrari hass thats the current pecking order based on this session.

FerrariF60
23rd March 2018, 06:00
Merc redbull ferrari hass thats the current pecking order based on this session.

Yup totally agree

jgonzalesm6
23rd March 2018, 06:03
Bottas and Raikkonen to see the stewards after the session. Bottas complaining that he feels Raikkonen pushed him into the gravel earlier.

FerrariF60
23rd March 2018, 06:03
They keep showing slow motions of our cars and they still fumigate under the tail light....something is worrying me there....the Merc and Renault engines don’t do that

Rishu
23rd March 2018, 06:04
Engine will cost them and there is a good chance they will have to take penaltys

4 engine strategy actually doesn't sound bad to me, it gives you more aggressive maps for races. Let's hope Renault lets them down though

paolo lalli
23rd March 2018, 06:05
Our race simulation looks strong.

nani_s23
23rd March 2018, 06:06
4 engine strategy actually doesn't sound bad to me, it gives you more aggressive maps for races. Let's hope Renault lets them down though

Renault will be having reliability issues too...

FerrariF60
23rd March 2018, 06:06
Our race simulation looks strong.

Says who?

angeljr
23rd March 2018, 06:10
Hamilton flying in race sim. high 1.28s. RAI into low 1.29s. Both on US

Christopher
23rd March 2018, 06:12
4 engine strategy actually doesn't sound bad to me, it gives you more aggressive maps for races. Let's hope Renault lets them down though

Redbull will use at least 5/6 engines

FerrariF60
23rd March 2018, 06:12
Hamilton flying in race sim. high 1.28s. RAI into low 1.29s. Both on US

Yup, and someone said our race pace is strong......hello....:rotfl

JPBD
23rd March 2018, 06:13
Hamilton flying in race sim. high 1.28s. RAI into low 1.29s. Both on US

Please share times or source

FerrariF60
23rd March 2018, 06:14
Our race simulation looks strong.

Compared to who? Williams or Mcmowers

JPBD
23rd March 2018, 06:17
Sky says Mercedes and redbull in the high 28’s, Ferrari in the low 29’s. Little between merc and redbull, Ferrari a little further back.

angeljr
23rd March 2018, 06:17
Please share times or source

I am just writing the lap times based on the commentary. Trying my best to collect the lap times from the 3 leading teams. :)

angeljr
23rd March 2018, 06:18
Vettel 17 laps on US did a 1.28.5 and Lewis is 1.28.7. Roughly doing same lap times in the end of stint.

mwk360
23rd March 2018, 06:20
according to sky ferrari around 0.3 - 0.6s slower than RB AND Mercs on race pace. that sucks. To me looks like seb having a bad day. HAAS apparently matching very close to Ferrari on pace too . hmm

FerrariF60
23rd March 2018, 06:20
Sky says Mercedes and redbull in the high 28’s, Ferrari in the low 29’s. Little between merc and redbull, Ferrari a little further back.

So rumours from winter testing are actually true, Ferrari is 3rd best team....so the red bull jumped us over the winter and really close to Merc....:-(

angeljr
23rd March 2018, 06:21
according to sky ferrari around 0.3 - 0.6s slower than RB AND Mercs on race pace. that sucks. To me looks like seb having a bad day. HAAS apparently matching very close to Ferrari on pace too . hmm

NOT TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JPBD
23rd March 2018, 06:22
according to sky ferrari around 0.3 - 0.6s slower than RB AND Mercs on race pace. that sucks. To me looks like seb having a bad day. HAAS apparently matching very close to Ferrari on pace too . hmm

I’m watching sky and they haven’t said any of that. My post above is the most detailed analysis they’ve provided. Please provide source for your info

zike
23rd March 2018, 06:22
No such thing as sand bagging mate nowadays

I was sarcastic, cos all of these forum experts were telling me exactly that, so I was just wondering will we sandbag half of the season?

mwk360
23rd March 2018, 06:22
Is Bottas on Softs?anyone know if he is doing 1:28s?

stefa
23rd March 2018, 06:22
It is Friday... but... OK, will see tomorrow...

mwk360
23rd March 2018, 06:23
I was sarcastic, cos all of these forum experts were telling me exactly that, so I was just wondering will we sandbag half of the season?

lol only if FIA want to make a movie with a happy ending haha :lol

mwk360
23rd March 2018, 06:25
Looks like the experts were right,about Mercs and RB being ahead, hopefully they get Antonio on the simulator and they find some gains, I would hate to see them driving against HAAS on Sunday. Kimi is doing better than Seb today

nani_s23
23rd March 2018, 06:31
Last year trend for Ferrari was improvements from Friday to Saturday.

So let’s reserve the comments till Saturday quali. Im still optimistic Ferrari is hiding single lap pace.
Race pace it looks tight between mercs, RB & Ferrari

JPBD
23rd March 2018, 06:34
Last year merc ended FP2 .5 ahead of Ferrari, just like this year. We know how that turned out.

Also Seb just went purple in the speed trap on the back straight, sky actually suggested sandbagging! Wonders never cease.

I am nervous I won’t lie, but I’m clinging to hope. I want to hear from drivers ASAP

angeljr
23rd March 2018, 06:36
Order..

1. Mercs
2. Ferrari
3. Redbull
4. Haas

Mercs looks like they have increased their advantage to Ferrari specially on HAM hands (could be at least 0.5 in quali, hope I'm wrong). Ferrari and Redbull are very close but I see Ferrari is holding an edge comes qualifying. Race sim is close for both. HAAS leading the best of the rest.

paolo lalli
23rd March 2018, 06:41
Seb had purple sectors at the end it was a session that was quite mixed lots of variables need to be considered.

jgonzalesm6
23rd March 2018, 06:42
FP2 FINAL

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY9BqrkX4AUePGC.jpg

Vettel165
23rd March 2018, 06:45
We had a good practice this morning, Kimi is just 0,283 s off Hamiltons lap time. Seb is usually about 0,3s faster than Kimi on qualy raw pace, soo that means that Seb would be near equal with Hamiltons lap time. Seb is always mighty fast in Australia, last year he was 0,6s faster than Kimi, so if he is finding the right setup he will be right there tomorrow. Interesting time ahead. Race pace looks good.

nani_s23
23rd March 2018, 06:45
Last year merc ended FP2 .5 ahead of Ferrari, just like this year. We know how that turned out.

Also Seb just went purple in the speed trap on the back straight, sky actually suggested sandbagging! Wonders never cease.

I am nervous I won’t lie, but I’m clinging to hope. I want to hear from drivers ASAP

Crofty & Karun Chandok said Ferrari on the verge of shock from RB. Such a bunch of idiotic guys, how does fp2 give indications of such things. If so wts the use of quali, n these people r so called commentators.
F1 became circus with these buffoons.

jgonzalesm6
23rd March 2018, 06:46
Kimi under investigation for impeding another driver (Bottas).

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY9Ba5yW0AAURBB.jpg

number 13
23rd March 2018, 06:46
Our sector 3 is awful :-s

nani_s23
23rd March 2018, 06:47
We had a good practice season, Kimi is just 0,283 s off Hamiltons lap time. Seb is usually about 0,3s faster than Kimi on qualy raw pace, soo that means that Seb would be near equal with Hamiltons lap time. Seb is always mighty fast in Australia, last year he was 0,6s faster than Kimi, soo if he is finding the right setup he will be right there tomorrow. Interesting times ahead. Race pace looks good.

I’m on the same line... but worry thing for me is wet track. If so it masks our car set-up n pace.

nani_s23
23rd March 2018, 06:48
Kimi under investigation for impeding another driver (Bottas).

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY9Ba5yW0AAURBB.jpg

No further action should be taken place.
Max too had the same with gasly I think so...

Kristof_F40
23rd March 2018, 06:49
If you look at last year we made huge improvements over winter and were challenging for the championship and winning races. We came short on 1 lap pace, but had great race pace and Seb did some good racing in the first part of the season compared to Lewis. When Merc sorted there Diva out, it was a lot harder for us to challenge them, but still we were somewhere there..
So if everybody makes some improvements, Merc will be ahead since they a good advantage at the end of last year. My biggest concern is engine reliability. Merc have such an engine advantage that last year they could play a safe game and still have the most power. Remember Brazil when Lewis started from the back with new engine? With this season only three engines, this gives them the advantage since others will have to puch to get the same power but will probably struggle more with reliability where Merc won't .
At the end of last year RBR was challenging at the front, so I expect them to do the same now, also, RBR has show to have one of the best in season developments in the last years so...

paolo lalli
23rd March 2018, 07:02
Caron chandok should be playing cricket with a name like his way out of his league.

darkchild
23rd March 2018, 07:06
If Haas is only few tenths behind with same engine that is embarassing for Ferrari. I dread it, but it seems all doom and gloom during pre season testing is holding up true.

Nick Singer
23rd March 2018, 07:09
So, in conclusion, we are 'sandbagging' and will smash everyone come Saturday/ Sunday.. OR we are fourth in the pecking order behind Haas!

I think it's just carrying on from the latter part of last term - Red Bull pretty much at our level, Mercs ahead.

I hope I will be proved wrong in FP3/ Qualy!

vcs316
23rd March 2018, 07:10
FP2 FINAL

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY9BqrkX4AUePGC.jpg

The speed traps look very wrong.

Vettel165
23rd March 2018, 07:15
If Haas is only few tenths behind with same engine that is embarassing for Ferrari. I dread it, but it seems all doom and gloom during pre season testing is holding up true.

Understood budy calm down and wait for tomorrow, but the real order will be seen in Bahrain in 14 days time. Does someone has the race pace comparison between Ferrari, Mercedes,RBR?
For now I see the pecking order like this. I think we still have a much better q3 engine mode than RBR.
1. Mercedes
2.Ferrari (0,1 behind)
3. RBR: (0,25 behind)
4. Haas.

mwk360
23rd March 2018, 07:16
I think Ferrari going through its "diva" phase but without the engine advantage to nullify it, only...10bhp... ... increase since last year. Once they can figure a way to get the car to corner like the Mercs or RB im sure we can challenge them (RB), maybe second half of the season we will have the cornering figured out. This year we will not be dominating Monaco, singapore type tracks like last year because of the wheelbase but we should hopefully atleast beable to keep up with RB on the fast paced circuits

mwk360
23rd March 2018, 07:18
If Haas is only few tenths behind with same engine that is embarassing for Ferrari. I dread it, but it seems all doom and gloom during pre season testing is holding up true.

I pray not, but they did mention Maurizio and Binotto very shocked at there pace during testing so it looks bad right now, sucks it looks like wet race so we will not know for sure. but from sector times, Haas is better in S3 than Ferrari if i remember

Ferrarichamp
23rd March 2018, 07:31
i think the thing that baffles me the most at this point is Kimi ahead of Seb. (no offense Kimi).

nani_s23
23rd March 2018, 07:39
Sky reporting that there was war of words between MA & Horner in the press conference regarding Mekies.

nani_s23
23rd March 2018, 07:41
Where was Mr. Horner when Marcin Budkowski joined Renault.

phsyklone
23rd March 2018, 07:45
Seb and Kimi's cars had different front wings. Kimi has the new one that Ferrari brought which is the "Abu Dabi spec" while Seb was running the winter testing front wing.

Could this explain why Kimi was Faster than Seb ? if so does that mean we are on mercs pace when the cars is in the hands of Seb coz Mind you Kimi was only 0.2 behind Lewis or we are still struggling ?

Vettel165
23rd March 2018, 07:45
I pray not, but they did mention Maurizio and Binotto very shocked at there pace during testing so it looks bad right now, sucks it looks like wet race so we will not know for sure. but from sector times, Haas is better in S3 than Ferrari if i remember

90% of your posts are just negativity about our team, show some fate. What I dont understand is that Haas is just 0,5s of Ferrari (from Kimi), they have a nearly identical chassis, so this is a very good sign I think. Last year in Q3 we had an advantage 1,6s over Grosjean lap time, I think this year we have at least 1 second still. So Ferrari domination might be coming, and we are pretty much still sandbagging a lot, but also what we dont know how does our new q3 boost mode work and how much time do Mercedes have in reserve. On power circuit, like Bahrain, China I am confident we have at least 0,3s on RBR. We will see, but it is looking good.

nani_s23
23rd March 2018, 07:46
Vet says “there’s still quite lot of performance in hand”.

Vettel165
23rd March 2018, 07:46
Vet says “there’s still quite lot of performance in hand”.

:clap
Because of just 3 engines per season allowed, I think we were saving a lot more our engine that normally in practice.

nani_s23
23rd March 2018, 08:04
:clap
Because of just 3 engines per season allowed, I think we were saving a lot more our engine that normally in practice.

I think it’s not that equation. Come race engine will be installed tomorrow during fp3 only. This is the process they followed last year.
On that note, they might be using the same spec which we have used in pre-season Barcelona test.

wisepie
23rd March 2018, 08:21
Here we go again, negativity creeping in already, of course we all want to post the fastest times but there are so many variables and rain may well play a big part...it's FP1/2 and not really any surprises, RB are up there with us, and I'm disappointed to see Sauber at the bottom of the pile for now when Haas appear to be very competitive, but we don't need Grosjean cramping our style.:-E It could all change tomorrow so let's be positive.:roll

Ferrarichamp
23rd March 2018, 08:24
bookies now have Max as 2nd favourite to win the race :-E

jpalmito
23rd March 2018, 08:30
I think it’s not that equation. Come race engine will be installed tomorrow during fp3 only. This is the process they followed last year.
On that note, they might be using the same spec which we have used in pre-season Barcelona test.

It's the same engine for seven races including free practice.
They won't change it after fp2.

wisepie
23rd March 2018, 08:32
bookies now have Max as 2nd favourite to win the race :-E

Rather him than Hamilton! But neither is acceptable to us!:-E

nani_s23
23rd March 2018, 08:36
It's the same engine for seven races including free practice.
They won't change it after fp2.

That should be race engines which complies 7 race event rule. But in practice sessions, we can use any engine.

Because if we take practise sessions & quali into considerations with race too, then 3 engine formula survival is hard.

nani_s23
23rd March 2018, 08:37
bookies now have Max as 2nd favourite to win the race :-E

I think it’s based on wet quali & race conditions, not on Dry track

JPBD
23rd March 2018, 08:43
That should be race engines which complies 7 race event rule. But in practice sessions, we can use any engine.

Because if we take practise sessions & quali into considerations with race too, then 3 engine formula survival is hard.

I think you’re misinterpreting the rule. You can use 3 engines throughout the entire season. This is the first of those 3 engines, so will remain in the car throughout the weekend. They could put a second engine in, but that would be the 2nd of their 3, so would remove one future potential upgrade. This engine will run throughout this weekend, and (without issue) for the next 6 Grand Prix also.

evo_spook
23rd March 2018, 08:44
That should be race engines which complies 7 race event rule. But in practice sessions, we can use any engine.

Because if we take practise sessions & quali into considerations with race too, then 3 engine formula survival is hard.

Yes, in practice you can use any engine, but what you are forgetting is that they currently all have 1 engine only.

also, on running engines light, every team will be doing that.

JPBD
23rd March 2018, 09:15
More to come from Ferrari. It’s weird that the cars are going slower than last year with a years worth of development and softer rubber....

https://f1deck.com/a/14o3R?via=tweet

Riccardog
23rd March 2018, 09:16
:lou oh wow reading through all of this is quite tiring...
my 2 cents worth...
1) 3 engines the entire year... would be a perfect rule if... once you have used up these 3 engines, then you have to sit out the rest of the races... otherwise you will just spoil the chances of a better team to challenge for championships.
2) 3 engines, so I sooooo pray Ferrari have set the engines to it's lowest setting, and just go about practise with setup and only setup in mind, what's the point of stressing the engine for a bit of glory ... in practise.
3) liberty... we are in the 5th year of tyres dictating top speeds, and the f1 buffoons haven't upgraded the timing screens to reflect the tyre compound used for the times set... ?
4) it's the first real test of the cars on track... why all the predictions? why all the worry? unless you are employed by Ferrari and know exactly what is going on, why are you making predictions?
I just wish to read encouragements and the joy of the sport, and the joy of following Ferrari, here there's very little of that...
I have waited the entire off season for this day, and have watched the practises as if I were a 5 year old RELISHING the view once again.
Please be more respectful and just DON't post your opinions if they pure doom and gloom.... 7393 7394

Ferrarichamp
23rd March 2018, 09:21
what's wrong with making predictions? to me that's part of the fun.

nani_s23
23rd March 2018, 09:41
I think you’re misinterpreting the rule. You can use 3 engines throughout the entire season. This is the first of those 3 engines, so will remain in the car throughout the weekend. They could put a second engine in, but that would be the 2nd of their 3, so would remove one future potential upgrade. This engine will run throughout this weekend, and (without issue) for the next 6 Grand Prix also.

Ok forgot the fact that all r on their engine 1. :lol

nani_s23
23rd March 2018, 09:45
3 place grid penalty for Ricciardo. Did not reduce speed under red flag

Ferrarichamp
23rd March 2018, 09:47
3 place grid penalty for Ricciardo. Did not reduce speed under red flag

Horny will be pi$$ed :-D

jgonzalesm6
23rd March 2018, 09:51
No further action for the incident between Raikkonen and Bottas. Stewards say Raikkonen did impede Bottas but both drivers accept it wasn't "unnecessary."

jgonzalesm6
23rd March 2018, 09:54
3 place grid penalty for Ricciardo. Did not reduce speed under red flag

yep...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY9oxO0WsAAa1Ay.jpg

jgonzalesm6
23rd March 2018, 09:55
Vettel "not very comfortable" with his Ferrari in #AusGP #F1 practice, predicts "a lot" more speed to come later in weekend per Autosport.

Vettel165
23rd March 2018, 10:17
Well for me they are both very possitive. They just have to find the right setup, remember last year we were 0,500 down on Hamilton after FP2, this year just 0,280s, well I pray for a dry Q tomorrow. Maybe the rain wouldnt hit the track.

Kimi, Seb believe there’s much potential to be explored

Melbourne – The first day of practice at Albert Park saw both Scuderia Ferrari drivers go through an extensive job of data collecting and car set-up work. At the end of the day, Kimi and Seb had covered 62 and 60 laps respectively using all three available tyre compounds (Soft, Supersoft and Ultrasoft,) running various fuel loads.

“It was a pretty normal first day here in Australia”, said Kimi. “Everything felt a bit different from testing, but it’s normal when you are in a different place. The track itself felt much better than last year, in terms of grip. It looks like there are a lot of leaves, but this doesn’t really affect the driving. It’s not easy to find a good set up, but the start today was not too bad. We tried a few things and did our best to improve here and there. We are considering which way we should go and trying to figure out the best way to do that. It’s a normal story, especially at the beginning of the year. Let’s see what the weather brings tomorrow. Tonight we’ll go through all the work we have done today, we’ll pick all the positive things and see what we can do”.

Sebastian commented on his daily routine: “It’s been a rather dull day of work, like every Friday. We tried to chase the balance because I didn’t feel completely comfortable at first, but I’m not worried about that because I know that if we do everything right, the car should be in better shape. It looks like we are close, which is good news, so we should be able to do something tomorrow. This track is particularly tricky, in that if you don’t nail it at first, then there is quite of bit of lap time to be found, and I think we still have much potential to extract. The car is fine; it’s not where we want it to be yet, but if we keep on working, it should be ok. I really hope to make a bigger step than the others”.

jgonzalesm6
23rd March 2018, 10:25
Weather today during quali

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY90BU0UMAUKpk1.jpg

Vettel165
23rd March 2018, 11:03
Grosjean the fastest guy on US tyres (race pace). Ferrari domination incoming in 3,2,1. :lol :rotfl

https://s9.postimg.org/d0544zra7/Brez_naslova.png (https://postimages.org/)

Ferrari looks strong on SOFT tyres, we were the fastest on average. Which suits us well for the race. :)

https://s9.postimg.org/p20hyuifj/Brez_naslova.png (https://postimages.org/)

nani_s23
23rd March 2018, 11:49
Weather today during quali

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY90BU0UMAUKpk1.jpg

Wt r chances of dry quali ??? FP3 is important for ferrari tmrw to find perfect set-up

Vettel165
23rd March 2018, 12:07
Wt r chances of dry quali ??? FP3 is important for ferrari tmrw to find perfect set-up

Not a chance. Maybe for qualy there is a possibility of a more dry weather, yr.no (very reliable site from ECMWF weather model) is showing just 0,3 mm at that time. Maybe the track will dry up. It looks like we will have a dry race on sunday.

https://s9.postimg.org/nj9p7qypr/Brez_naslova.png (https://postimages.org/)

IulianFerrari
23rd March 2018, 12:35
Looks like just qualy rain. The race might be dry, which we should hope for, as Seb and Kimi are not good in the rain if last year was an indication

mwk360
23rd March 2018, 12:45
Looks like just qualy rain. The race might be dry, which we should hope for, as Seb and Kimi are not good in the rain if last year was an indication

Very true,im glad for the race but im worried for Quali, Kimi and seb might endup starting 7~8 if it rains like monza, hoping the rain goes away when seb and kimi trying to survive a wet lap :pray

Vettel165
23rd March 2018, 12:47
Looks like just qualy rain. The race might be dry, which we should hope for, as Seb and Kimi are not good in the rain if last year was an indication

Seb is not good in the rain, really? What about Monza 2008, China 2007, 2010 China, 2012 Brasil, 2014 Malaysia, 2015, Malaysia USA, Silverstone, and many more.Last year he was amazing on a damp track at China. Monza was an anomaly, because they manage to totaly screw up the setup of the car. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MjKBtJe4Fg

What was really fantastic was in 2014 with that poor engine he managed to nearly get the pole position from that dominate Mercedes which was nearly 1 second faster at that stage.

https://s9.postimg.org/5bcv6ivgf/Brez_naslova.png (https://postimages.org/)

mwk360
23rd March 2018, 12:48
While ill take it because we need all we can get, i don't think Ric should'v got the penalty lol but this leaves just Max, Bot and Ham to have to pass come Sunday. so all's good :-P

mwk360
23rd March 2018, 12:51
Grosjean the fastest guy on US tyres (race pace). Ferrari domination incoming in 3,2,1. :lol :rotfl

https://s9.postimg.org/d0544zra7/Brez_naslova.png (https://postimages.org/)

Ferrari looks strong on SOFT tyres, we were the fastest on average. Which suits us well for the race. :)

https://s9.postimg.org/p20hyuifj/Brez_naslova.png (https://postimages.org/)

this confuses me, we are so terrible on SS and HS but Gods on softs lol...Didn't crofty and ted say we are behind RB on low 1:29s i hope they release an official timing thing because it looks all over the place lmao if Grojean takes pole I will be very happy for him and his ferrari engine :-D

nani_s23
23rd March 2018, 12:52
Looks like just qualy rain. The race might be dry, which we should hope for, as Seb and Kimi are not good in the rain if last year was an indication

Vet is good at wet track, Kimi is not.
But the equation is Ferrari car isn’t good in these conditions. Tyre warm-up issues & extracting single lap pace in such conditions is the big worry.

nani_s23
23rd March 2018, 12:58
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/how-ferrari-has-engineered-itself-into-a-hole-1017839/

Wow.... after all it’s just free practice sessions & Ferrari tend to improve most from Friday to Saturday.

Reporter out of mind

mwk360
23rd March 2018, 13:00
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/how-ferrari-has-engineered-itself-into-a-hole-1017839/

Wow.... after all it’s just free practice sessions & Ferrari tend to improve most from Friday to Saturday.

Reporter out of mind

i hate the subscription sites! ugghhh what did they say? did Ferrari mess up with the long wheelbase? our last sector and cornering seems to be awful

nani_s23
23rd March 2018, 13:04
i hate the subscription sites! ugghhh what did they say? did Ferrari mess up with the long wheelbase? our last sector and cornering seems to be awful

Reporter jumped to conclusion saying Ferrari digged a hole for themselves by changing its car design

Michal2_F1
23rd March 2018, 13:09
The times were pretty slow in FP2, barely quicker than in FP1, slower than last year so I wouldn't that top teams have a lot of time in their pockets. Haas continus to impress but I would wait till qualifying and the race to confirm how close they care. Not getting overly excited that Hamilton will be beaten though, especially tomorrow.

We'll see if it rains, but even on wet track Hamilton will be really fast and Ferrari will probably be beaten by Red Bull.

Tony
23rd March 2018, 13:16
Every year it's the same thing, can you all at least wait until the end of the actual race before whinging this much? It's getting annoying...

DJTaurus
23rd March 2018, 13:39
https://www.racefans.net/2018/03/23/hamilton-not-braking-insane-turns-11-12/

IulianFerrari
23rd March 2018, 13:55
May I remind everybody, like someone else already pointed out, that this season is just a 3 engine season. To use it to its full potential in free practice is just crazy, so we should wait and see. We are not looking that bad, just a couple of tenths back in free practice, which means nothing.

mwk360
23rd March 2018, 14:02
what does back-to-backing mean?

KimiBot
23rd March 2018, 14:39
If Haas is only few tenths behind with same engine that is embarassing for Ferrari. I dread it, but it seems all doom and gloom during pre season testing is holding up true.

It is only FP2 but that is good news anyway, looks like Ferrari PU is strong.
And Kimi faster than Seb, and only ,3 behind Hamster, so it does not look bad at all.

mardyrt
23rd March 2018, 15:49
Does anyone know what tyers Vettel and Lamilton used, in sequence, during FP2?

Ferrari Man
23rd March 2018, 16:04
Did Vettel set his fastest time on the soft tyre and Hamilton on the Ultras?

mwk360
23rd March 2018, 16:07
Did Vettel set his fastest time on the soft tyre and Hamilton on the Ultras?

Both on Ultra, I think Seb set his time little bit after Hamilton.

I hope Seb can find the balance in his car :pray

DIEK
23rd March 2018, 16:08
https://i.redd.it/hel8y1ykcin01.png




















https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY8HoivX0AAvFZI.jpg:large

racingbradley
23rd March 2018, 16:15
Both on Ultra, I think Seb set his time little bit after Hamilton.

I hope Seb can find the balance in his car :pray

Ham always goes for glory runs even in free practice. I bet he had just enough fuel in his car to get round.
I doubt his team mate was trying to impress.
Personally I would take no notice atm and await quali with positivity:-D

ScuderiaBuckeye
23rd March 2018, 16:16
https://i.redd.it/hel8y1ykcin01.png




















https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY8HoivX0AAvFZI.jpg:large

Nice...:lol

Go Ferrari!

Here's to the engine being a rocket and not needing aero!!!

ChrisFerrari
23rd March 2018, 16:19
Unless it rains, I would not hope for much in quali. Our chances will come during the race.

nani_s23
23rd March 2018, 16:49
Unless it rains, I would not hope for much in quali. Our chances will come during the race.

Sad thing is, this not a track for overtaking. If Ferrari falls behind in quali, then it’s difficult for them to catch up for race win as either ham or max will be in cruise mode at the start.

Hope for dry quali n front row start

FerrariF60
23rd March 2018, 17:06
Sad thing is, this not a track for overtaking. If Ferrari falls behind in quali, then it’s difficult for them to catch up for race win as either ham or max will be in cruise mode at the start.

Hope for dry quali n front row start

Sadly, it won’t be dry in quali....I think it’s some like 90% rain/wet session.....so we got to make the best of it and no mistakes, then at the start if let’s say we quali in second row, try and have an awesome start and be P1 by first, second corner

Grinsomx
23rd March 2018, 17:07
0.001 ahead...cheers,party,well done, woohoo, WDC/WCC
0.001 behind...boooo,sack them all, we're doomed, tears,more tears, Forza antidepressants.

give it a few races either way? maybe?
we have a full season ahead of us.

mwk360
23rd March 2018, 17:11
Sad thing is, this not a track for overtaking. If Ferrari falls behind in quali, then it’s difficult for them to catch up for race win as either ham or max will be in cruise mode at the start.

Hope for dry quali n front row start
:pray
Ferrari should/will(hopefully) definitely try to get a wet/dry inbetween setup ready before tomorrow because there might be a slight chance of rain Sunday too, If we Quali like we did in Monza maybe we can atleast hold station until a safety car or something on sunday and make some passes from the back that way.

Whats depressing, is that Seb said he is uncomfortable with the car setup whilst Mercs and RB look ready and set. With tomorrow most likely bucketing, Seb won't beable to get that Setup for Sunday. :-(

FerrariF60
23rd March 2018, 17:16
:pray
Ferrari should/will(hopefully) definitely try to get a wet/dry inbetween setup ready before tomorrow because there might be a slight chance of rain Sunday too, If we Quali like we did in Monza maybe we can atleast hold station until a safety car or something on sunday and make some passes from the back that way.

Whats depressing, is that Seb said he is uncomfortable with the car setup whilst Mercs and RB look ready and set. With tomorrow most likely bucketing, Seb won't beable to get that Setup for Sunday. :-(

That’s hey we need Govanazi to wok overtime in the simulator back in Maranello to dial in the ideal/proper set up

mwk360
23rd March 2018, 17:24
That’s hey we need Govanazi to wok overtime in the simulator back in Maranello to dial in the ideal/proper set up

YES! i know it might be lil bad to say, but he is way better in the simulator than his driving last year. I hope he does something. I read something about J. Villenueve saying Kubica could be sabotaging the car so they would eventually ask him to drive it, Hope Antonio or Kvyat dont get any ideas.


We are about 0.4~ ahead of Haas, we need to maintain this or increase this before the end of the season or else we wont beable to trouble RB and Mercs on some tracks!. I like M. Arrivabene and Legend Sergio M way of working, im sure they will think up a plan or something to try to get Ferrari closer to RB and Mercs before Half way season :)


Hehe still praying for a miracle sandbagging from ferrari all this time come Sunday :pray:-P

FerrariF60
23rd March 2018, 17:30
YES! i know it might be lil bad to say, but he is way better in the simulator than his driving last year. I hope he does something. I read something about J. Villenueve saying Kubica could be sabotaging the car so they would eventually ask him to drive it, Hope Antonio or Kvyat dont get any ideas.


We are about 0.4~ ahead of Haas, we need to maintain this or increase this before the end of the season or else we wont beable to trouble RB and Mercs on some tracks!. I like M. Arrivabene and Legend Sergio M way of working, im sure they will think up a plan or something to try to get Ferrari closer to RB and Mercs before Half way season :)


Hehe still praying for a miracle sandbagging from ferrari all this time come Sunday :pray:-P

Me too mate, me too.....but it’s hard to think that when Ferrari have not shown any miracles yet in FP or winter testing

Maybe we,re still on sand bagging mode

jgonzalesm6
23rd March 2018, 17:32
Sadly, it won’t be dry in quali....I think it’s some like 90% rain/wet session.....so we got to make the best of it and no mistakes, then at the start if let’s say we quali in second row, try and have an awesome start and be P1 by first, second corner


That's IF they(FIA, stewards, marshalls) let them qualify in the wet???? They can push it back an hour or two...maybe....because it's too "dangerous"!!!! GIVE ME A BREAK. It may not be the most ideal conditions track wise but Pirelli have tyres that sipe 22 to 25 gallons(no, I'm not doing the conversion to ltrs) of water per second EACH tyre....and the drivers NOW have the Halo.

Let's take it back to the Senna, Hunt, Lauda years when those guys qualified and raced in a deluge.....besides, a more talented and skillful team and driver shines in the wet.

Ferrarichamp
23rd March 2018, 17:50
1 us gallon = approx. 3.78 l
1 imperial gallon = approx. 4.54 l

jgonzalesm6
23rd March 2018, 19:32
Seb hits 200 this weekend.

Saturday: Vettel Qualifying Number 200.

Sunday: Vettel Race Number 200.

FerrariF60
23rd March 2018, 20:01
Seb hits 200 this weekend.

Saturday: Vettel Qualifying Number 200.

Sunday: Vettel Race Number 200.

So maybe he’ll surprise us with a P1 quAli and a win on Sunday

FerrariSteve
23rd March 2018, 20:21
Hamilton's on-board.....??? You can't see crap!!!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY77jITWkAA7Z9a.jpg

OMG!! hahaha!!!
I knew it was going to be bad, but that's even worse than I thought! LOL!!!

Zrnojed2
23rd March 2018, 20:35
So maybe he’ll surprise us with a P1 quAli and a win on Sunday

I sure hope so!

Rob
23rd March 2018, 21:13
http://i67.tinypic.com/wlycn7.jpg
http://i67.tinypic.com/29y2ws4.jpg
http://i63.tinypic.com/vfffiq.jpg
http://i68.tinypic.com/v2u2bd.jpg
http://i65.tinypic.com/2duz5np.jpg

Rob
23rd March 2018, 21:14
Kimi, Seb believe there’s much potential to be explored

Ferrari Media

Melbourne, March 23 – The first day of practice at Albert Park saw both Scuderia Ferrari drivers go through an extensive job of data collecting and car set-up work. At the end of the day, Kimi and Seb had covered 62 and 60 laps respectively using all three available tyre compounds (Soft, Supersoft and Ultrasoft,) running various fuel loads.

“It was a pretty normal first day here in Australia”, said Kimi. “Everything felt a bit different from testing, but it’s normal when you are in a different place. The track itself felt much better than last year, in terms of grip. It looks like there are a lot of leaves, but this doesn’t really affect the driving. It’s not easy to find a good set up, but the start today was not too bad. We tried a few things and did our best to improve here and there. We are considering which way we should go and trying to figure out the best way to do that. It’s a normal story, especially at the beginning of the year. Let’s see what the weather brings tomorrow. Tonight we’ll go through all the work we have done today, we’ll pick all the positive things and see what we can do”.

Sebastian commented on his daily routine: “It’s been a rather dull day of work, like every Friday. We tried to chase the balance because I didn’t feel completely comfortable at first, but I’m not worried about that because I know that if we do everything right, the car should be in better shape. It looks like we are close, which is good news, so we should be able to do something tomorrow. This track is particularly tricky, in that if you don’t nail it at first, then there is quite of bit of lap time to be found, and I think we still have much potential to extract. The car is fine; it’s not where we want it to be yet, but if we keep on working, it should be ok. I really hope to make a bigger step than the others”.

schuy
23rd March 2018, 23:28
Good morning all, rain has just hit Melbourne 10am local time, they expect it to last until the afternoon so p3 should be wet, but should clear by the time qualifying starts. It may be a damp start but the track could dry up. Forecast for tomorrow is showers but again not expected at race time, not as much as today.

jgonzalesm6
23rd March 2018, 23:42
rain on the track and downtown

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZAnXxfVMAA6GUu.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZAs8M9UMAEHhoO.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZAs8NGU8AARKc9.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZApOiuX4AAHI-e.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZApBOLUMAA2IgG.jpg

da_one
24th March 2018, 00:36
I'm keeping my hopes up with our chances this year. When the Mercs switched to a longer wheel base last year, it took them awhile to get the ideal setup. I believe it was only after Monaco when they achieved this. Surely Ferrari is also in the same predicament, having switched to a long wheel base this year. The icy weather in the Barcelona tests worked against them in finding the proper setup and unfortunately, the weather now in Melbourne for P3 might disadvantage them even more. Then again, as long as our drivers are confident there's more potential to unleash, then I too am confident.

Having said this, the new Merc challenger is an evolution of the title winning car last year so time is against us. They said they got rid of the diva characteristics of their car from last year and so that is a big plus for them. Factor in the fact that the Red Bull is creeping behind us and the Mercs, so we can't afford any more brain farts from our drivers and the team like what happened last year. Hopefully our in-season development would also improve this year, as we are lagging behind in this department compared to our main competitors.

Here's to a great F1 2018 season! Hopefully this is our year! FORZA FERRARI!

JPBD
24th March 2018, 01:22
It’s pouring down in Melbourne y’all. Let’s hope we’ve got a good chassis otherwise I’d give quali to Verstappen and Hamilton now, before it’s started.

FerrariF60
24th March 2018, 01:42
Well Max is a master in the rain.....sadly can’t say the same about Seb.....and the Merc, well it’s a good car all around

So we better brace ourselves for 3rd row at best

jgonzalesm6
24th March 2018, 01:57
F1 Live - Australian Grand Prix Fan Forum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQA68TA_6aY

JPBD
24th March 2018, 01:58
It’s stopped raining and support races are drying the track out pretty reasonably. Definitely a wet FP3, but could be a dry quali if the rain stays away.

JPBD
24th March 2018, 01:59
Will be tricky for Ferrari to get the right setup considering the state of our cars yesterday, now going into a wet FP3, possible dry quali. Disaster for Seb trying to find the sweet spot!

brawnydog
24th March 2018, 02:09
All our concerns will be answered on Sunday. I would not put much weight on Friday or even Saturday. If last year was any lesson, we want to see what Ferrari can pull off on race day. I know it can be disheartening to see Ferrari so low on practice, but I'm believing that Seb will be on the front row come Sunday.

Sent from my LG-H812 using Tapatalk

mwk360
24th March 2018, 03:00
I hate this rain, its going to ruin sebs chances even more. ughhh ... lance stroll has gearbox problems

mwk360
24th March 2018, 03:01
If it stays wet its going to be a Hamilton - Max love fest from sky

mwk360
24th March 2018, 03:03
They need to start showing tyre currently used on this graphic, commentary is very unreliable

jgonzalesm6
24th March 2018, 03:03
I hate this rain, its going to ruin sebs chances even more. ughhh ... lance stroll has gearbox problems

quali looks to be damp.

KimiBot
24th March 2018, 03:08
quali looks to be damp.

no rain in quali?

jgonzalesm6
24th March 2018, 03:16
no rain in quali?

rain has moved out.

FerrariF60
24th March 2018, 03:19
rain has moved out.

This only FP3, it may still rain come quali

FerrariF60
24th March 2018, 03:26
Max really flyin in the wet.....Seb is only tippy toeing

FerrariF60
24th March 2018, 03:30
So we’re a WHOLE second off in the wet? Ok

totox
24th March 2018, 03:34
Maybe, just maybe could be that is pointless to try hard in wet fp3 with potential risk of spin and crash the car, and ruin the first race weekend.

FerrariF60
24th March 2018, 03:36
Maybe, just maybe could be that is pointless to try hard in wet fp3 with potential risk of spin and crash the car, and ruin the first race weekend.

Ok I’ll go with your theory.....but we’ll find out the real answer in a few hours time come Quali

totox
24th March 2018, 03:37
At the moment, the picture isn't really clear so yes, we have no other option to wait and see...

mwk360
24th March 2018, 03:37
Seb seems to be struggling on the wet track, down in seventh with much better conditions

FerrariF60
24th March 2018, 03:38
One can see that both our driver are really struggling with the car

FerrariF60
24th March 2018, 03:43
That lap of Alo was mega

totox
24th March 2018, 03:43
In the meantime the haas keep going better and better

f412
24th March 2018, 03:43
i mean.. one would think..that ferrarri would have done something to improve cars setup for wet conditions... considering how we sucked last year in the wets... but nooo... one of the best financially strong teams...and this is all we got..:roll

gump1480
24th March 2018, 03:46
I still feel we lack ideas in "Suspension design and setup" since Aldo Costa left

nani_s23
24th March 2018, 03:46
Ferrari car from past couple of years, isn’t good at wet track. Added to that our drivers not fully confident & aggressive

nani_s23
24th March 2018, 03:47
No more rain ... quali would be in dry conditions.

f412
24th March 2018, 03:51
track is pretty mcuh dry..still we cant go past maxs time set on wet track.. what n the dashin world is this..

KimiBot
24th March 2018, 03:52
No more rain ... quali would be in dry conditions.

nice

nani_s23
24th March 2018, 03:52
track is pretty mcuh dry..still we cant go past maxs time set on wet track.. what n the dashin world is this..

Mercs top of the time sheets

FerrariF60
24th March 2018, 03:55
Mercs top of the time sheets

Were u expecting something else mate? A miracle or somethin? Not from Ferrari I don’t think

f412
24th March 2018, 03:55
Mercs top of the time sheets

who cares..we suck...

FerrariF60
24th March 2018, 03:55
who cares..we suck...

^this

gump1480
24th March 2018, 03:57
The car is not good enough in DRY and absolutely horrible in WET

DelMar
24th March 2018, 03:58
I still feel we lack ideas in "Suspension design and setup" since Aldo Costa left
The problem can also be the driveability of the engine.

FerrariF60
24th March 2018, 03:58
Looks like we’ve enherited the DIVA conditions the Merc had last year

totox
24th March 2018, 04:01
Yes, it look so. Now we only can hope that the team can solve the problems like merc did last year.

jgonzalesm6
24th March 2018, 04:01
Nice!!!! Vettel

totox
24th March 2018, 04:02
Nice!!!! Vettel
Good lap out of context. But is something

FerrariF60
24th March 2018, 04:02
Nice!!!! Vettel

Compared to WHO? No one else did a quali lap on ultra soft so the time is nothin good to write home about

FerrariF60
24th March 2018, 04:04
I think we’re in BIG time trouble

If lucky we’ll qualify on third row at best

nani_s23
24th March 2018, 04:04
Working good in dry not so good in wet suggests to suspension design & aero.

jgonzalesm6
24th March 2018, 04:04
Compared to WHO? No one else did a quali lap on ultra soft so the time is nothin good to write home about


ssssshhhhhh.....can't be too negative.:-D

f412
24th March 2018, 04:04
pfft.. going to office.. getting a life.. tierd of dreaming and hoping for thngs to change...:roll

FerrariF60
24th March 2018, 04:05
ssssshhhhhh.....can't be too negative.:-D

WHATEVER

Deephouse
24th March 2018, 04:06
The negativity here is insane. Oh well nothing new from the forum.

nani_s23
24th March 2018, 04:06
pfft.. going to office.. getting a life.. tierd of dreaming and hoping for thngs to change...:roll

Don’t worry vet will take p2 in quali. Watch out.

JPBD
24th March 2018, 04:06
The people on this forum are gross. Ferrari doesn’t owe you anything. We’re here to support our team. We don’t “suck”. To say stupid and childish things like that you either have no technical understanding of this sport, or you’re flat out dumb. Some people here should go watch NASCAR and enjoy your technical parity and round circuits.

This is part of the fun people! You support your team through thick and thin. You watch them struggle so that you enjoy their glory even more.

I’m only 27 and I have enough context to know Ferrari doesn’t owe me anything. Ferrari can’t win everything. Before the glory years, there were DECADES of dark seasons for us. A lot of people here are older than me and it would do you well to remember that.

I think we’re behind Mercedes, but we’re CLOSE with redbull. This is a tight season. This is GOOD for the sport.

Children here need to go out, get a life and get some context.

FerrariF60
24th March 2018, 04:07
The negativity here is insane. Oh well nothing new from the forum.

So should I pretend I’m happy and everything is ROsY when we clearly are behind Mercedes and red fools.

jgonzalesm6
24th March 2018, 04:07
WHATEVER


I'm feelin ya man....I feel ya.

totox
24th March 2018, 04:07
Working good in dry not so good in wet suggests to suspension design & aero.

Why suspension? The car have good grip in dry, the same grip in wet. Not because our layout look "simple" relative to merc one, it means that is under developed or flawed

totox
24th March 2018, 04:09
The negative atmosphere here is quiet boring

KimiBot
24th March 2018, 04:09
too early to say anything, just feels that it is gonna be different season, many teams in podium

nani_s23
24th March 2018, 04:09
So should I pretend I’m happy and everything is ROsY when we clearly are behind Mercedes and red fools.

You can’t conclude we are behind RB. Not even single quali or race is done.
You know how Ferrari tend to improve from Friday to Saturday.

totox
24th March 2018, 04:12
You can’t conclude we are behind RB. Not even single quali or race is done.
You know how Ferrari tend to improve from Friday to Saturday.

I guess some people prefer to think negative and get a surprise later than vicecersa. The thing is that negative comments are sometimes very intense here

nani_s23
24th March 2018, 04:12
Why suspension? The car have good grip in dry, the same grip in wet. Not because our layout look "simple" relative to merc one, it means that is under developed or flawed

Under dry grip is different from wet conditions.
In dry you carry more power along with the grip in the corners. But in wet, power is not important. Traction is very much needed, getting to early on power leads you to spin much earlier.

cisco82
24th March 2018, 04:16
None of it really matters, the P3 results ..
the only thing that matters is if the simulator work from last night translated well to the track and the drivers found the balance they were chasing.
That's it... The rest means nothing..

That's why that last run was so important , Seb and Kimi would have tried different solutions , and they'll go for the one that worked best.
Quali looks set to be dry , they'll empty the tanks turn up the engines and we'll see where we are...

totox
24th March 2018, 04:16
Under dry grip is different from wet conditions.
In dry you carry more power along with the grip in the corners. But in wet, power is not important. Traction is very much needed, getting to early on power leads you to spin much earlier.

Yes, but the problem of lack of grip in wet could lay in the power delivery. You could have the best suspension layout but if the engine is too aggressive in putting the power down, you get loss of traction. Anyway is very difficult for us, fans, to guess where is the problem. Could be a bit of both

f412
24th March 2018, 04:53
taking a look back at testing... it feels like our suspension and aero is just right about where it keeps tyre deg to minimum.. which is good for long runs.. and if you remember how the tyres over at merc and red bull were.. it shows thats just the kind of downforce and tranction required to keep the car planted...:Hmm

f412
24th March 2018, 05:09
what about qualifying guys? how will be the conditions? chances of rain??

JPBD
24th March 2018, 05:16
what about qualifying guys? how will be the conditions? chances of rain??

Quali will be dry. 100%

mwk360
24th March 2018, 05:21
Circuit looks like its drying up, i think the top four will be RB vs Mercs and then behind them will be ferrari and haas. seb struggling with this new car, kimi might be faster. Very very poor in wet conditions, you would think they would improve that front. Atleast it looks dry for now. Hoping we get ahead of Haas. Rics penalty really helps ferrari tbh. Ferrari looks like they are in 2016 mode with a car maybe only ever good enough to trouble a rb. Hope not. Lol i dont care if we use six engines and forfeit races like monaco, silverstone(disaster last year) and somewhere where they weak and use the engine on higher mode more than the rest so we can catch up to RB.

mwk360
24th March 2018, 05:26
I still feel we lack ideas in "Suspension design and setup" since Aldo Costa left

Most likely why we are weaker than Haas in cornering, i think the suspension department took a nap or weren't innovative enough like RB and mercs during the break. Maybe Sergio can get some guys from merc like how they keep stealing ferrari guys.

mwk360
24th March 2018, 05:28
Toto with a giant grin :roll (nico points that out too) , it was last year when we got that epic toto anger moment during pitstop. I love how nico makes hamilton all sour :lol

cisco82
24th March 2018, 05:31
Haas won't be near Ferrari.
The fact people think they even might be is pretty much proof Ferrari haven't shown their hand as yet...

And they did the same thing at every race last year.

nani_s23
24th March 2018, 05:42
Haas won't be near Ferrari.
The fact people think they even might be is pretty much proof Ferrari haven't shown their hand as yet...

And they did the same thing at every race last year.

Yup

f412
24th March 2018, 05:43
Haas won't be near Ferrari.
The fact people think they even might be is pretty much proof Ferrari haven't shown their hand as yet...

And they did the same thing at every race last year.


seriously.. you still think our team is fooling around ??? just cause our customer team is close to us?? if they are close it means they might have a better car chassis/aerowise.. i still remember 2017 monza... i was thinking all the way till the last moment of qualifying that we were sandbagging... only we werent...

even wiliamns driven by stroll got ahead of us.. if that wasnt an eye opener, then nothing is... another wet race and we are screwed...

stefa
24th March 2018, 05:55
So it is dry session. It looks track is still damp

cisco82
24th March 2018, 06:03
Haas is basically last year's Ferrari with this year's engine gearbox and rear suspension.
The reason they are so fast is because their cars been tested for a whole year..

Christopher
24th March 2018, 06:05
Seb got blocked alot there

FerrariF60
24th March 2018, 06:06
Any free links to watch quali

Christopher
24th March 2018, 06:09
Good lap by Kimi

stefa
24th March 2018, 06:10
So annoying this new graphic...

jgonzalesm6
24th March 2018, 06:11
Any free links to watch quali

http://www.ketsport.club/2018/03/f1.html

http://xansports.ml/sky-sports-3-hd.html

http://movieschip.com/live.php

http://cricfree.cc/sky-sports-f1-live-streaming

FerrariF60
24th March 2018, 06:11
So espn3 is not showing quali......wt heck