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da_one
8th April 2018, 18:43
Hope you have a speedy recovery!
SilverSpeed
8th April 2018, 18:51
Get well soon Francesco!
jgonzalesm6
8th April 2018, 18:54
Hope you have a speedy recovery!
Get well soon Francesco!
+1000
mwk360
8th April 2018, 19:00
Hope you back soon!
MasterTifosi
8th April 2018, 19:03
Forza Francesco!
ScuderiaBuckeye
8th April 2018, 19:09
Get better, Sir!
This win is for you!!!
Christopher
8th April 2018, 19:11
Hopefully the medics look after him well and he can return to the pit crew soon
brawnydog
8th April 2018, 19:19
Forza Francesco!
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Francesco Cigarini, you and all team risk lifes for just over 2 seconds a stop. Sorry, you got hurt doing what you love, heres to full speedy recovery my friend.
http://i65.tinypic.com/64ntac.jpg
jragona
8th April 2018, 19:35
Hope you come back very soon!
nani_s23
8th April 2018, 19:55
Hope to see you on track soon...!! Win dedicated to your efforts.
vetalo
8th April 2018, 21:41
quick recovery my friend
DIEK
8th April 2018, 21:43
@alo_oficial
E sopratutto, la cosa più importante augurare una pronta guarigione a Francesco dopo il incidente al pit oggi! Forza Ciga ! 💪💪💪💪
https://twitter.com/alo_oficial/status/983050270606315520
Michal2_F1
8th April 2018, 21:54
Forza Francesco! That win is for him! Great to see incredible support, showing that Ferrari is like a family.
FerrariSteve
8th April 2018, 22:00
Yes, horrible accident! :(
Please get well soon!
458 Italia
8th April 2018, 22:44
Francesco Cigarini, you and all team risk lifes for just over 2 seconds a stop. Sorry, you got hurt doing what you love, heres to full speedy recovery my friend.
http://i65.tinypic.com/64ntac.jpg
Evening Rob! Are you looking forward to the opener at Spa?
Are the AF boys close to the GP team? Do they all know each other personally?
jgonzalesm6
8th April 2018, 22:48
Ferrari fined for endangering team personnel and causing injury.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaSjlpqXcAAkAF9.jpg
Liscia
9th April 2018, 01:20
So sorry for your injury Francesco, I hope you have a speedy and complete recovery! FORZA FRANCESCO!!! FORZA FERRARI!!!
jgonzalesm6
9th April 2018, 02:19
GOOD NEWS TIFOSI. Francesco is okay and gives everyone a thumbs up!!!!:clap
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhVIb4KltMR/?hl=en&taken-by=francesco.cigarini
enjaybel3
9th April 2018, 03:18
GOOD NEWS TIFOSI. Francesco is okay and gives everyone a thumbs up!!!!:clap
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhVIb4KltMR/?hl=en&taken-by=francesco.cigarini
That is great to see and hear that he is ok and in good spirits. I too wish him a speedy recovery and can't wait to see him back in the pits working with the team.
bondilad
9th April 2018, 05:24
Very good news indeed. Speedy recovery Francesco !
JPBD
9th April 2018, 05:35
I hope Ferrari and F1 look after him financially. He’ll be out of action for a loooong time. Forza Francesco.
scudieros
9th April 2018, 08:54
GOOD NEWS TIFOSI. Francesco is okay and gives everyone a thumbs up!!!!:clap
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhVIb4KltMR/?hl=en&taken-by=francesco.cigarini
Great news. Forza Francesco :ferrarifl
vetalo
9th April 2018, 10:45
I hope Ferrari and F1 look after him financially. He’ll be out of action for a loooong time. Forza Francesco.
Ferrari is a family and family look after each other. in Countries like Italy, Spain and France Family value is an integral part of their community.
Hornet
9th April 2018, 13:49
Glad to see he's recovering :thumb
It looked really bad from the camera.
Aberracus
9th April 2018, 14:19
Grande Francesco!
Get week soon man, we are counting on you !
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jragona
9th April 2018, 17:56
Martin Brundle thinks a minimum pit stop time would help. Interesting idea:
Introducing minimum pit-stop times will look rather mundane and boring and still won't guarantee zero risks, and let's not forget that the vast majority of stops are just fine. I think the teams have to back off on this one and go for consistently rapid rather than impossibly fast stops.
Christopher
9th April 2018, 18:27
Raikkonen called Cigarini who is already on his feet!
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-raikkonen-ha-telefonato-a-francesco-cigarini-gia-in-piedi-1024287/
Stormy
9th April 2018, 18:36
Martin Brundle thinks a minimum pit stop time would help. Interesting idea:
Pit stops are fine, they just need to further improve the green light system. This is the exact same accident that happened in Singapore 2008, but the accident could've been bigger back then because of refuelling.
jgonzalesm6
9th April 2018, 18:38
Pit stops are fine, they just need to further improve the green light system. This is the exact same accident that happened in Singapore 2008, but the accident could've been bigger back then because of refuelling.
+1
wisepie
9th April 2018, 18:40
Francesco Cigarini, you and all team risk lifes for just over 2 seconds a stop. Sorry, you got hurt doing what you love, heres to full speedy recovery my friend.
http://i65.tinypic.com/64ntac.jpg
Well said, pronta guarigione Francesco.:thumb
Vettel165
9th April 2018, 19:50
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-raikkonen-ha-telefonato-a-francesco-cigarini-gia-in-piedi-1024287/
Kimi had called Francesco on the phone. Nice move by Kimi.
Lesky
9th April 2018, 20:49
Causal fans trying to say Kimi did not care about the mechanic getting injured.
Most important for medical team to attend to him, there were 14 people around him. What was Kimi going to do? Go in their and create a mess?
Did Kimi even know about his condition when he walked into the garage?
I am also sure Francesco was in no need too see Kimi immediately in that horrible situation.
They will have plenty of time to hug when Francesco is not need of urgent medical care.
People trying to stir up something thats not there as usual :-/
jgonzalesm6
9th April 2018, 20:55
Francesco doing his intallation lap.:-D.....he's on crutches and cast is off. (video)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhWglylF7pR/
racingbradley
9th April 2018, 22:21
Francesco doing his intallation lap.:-D.....he's on crutches and cast is off. (video)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhWglylF7pR/
Well done francesco. Its not easy keeping a good man down at least not for long. Have a speedy recovery.
Hope to see you back in the garage soon. :-D
SS454
10th April 2018, 00:40
Horrific injury for Francesco. Hopefully he makes a full recovery, but that appeared to be a pretty bad break.
As for Kimi, he came of looking like a for his lack of concern. If he actually cared, he would have gone over and checked on the mechanic, even if he couldn't get close. Post race comments are nothing but PR non sense.
What could be done, I think every team should have to use the exact same system. Perhaps even issued by the FIA. Maybe each wheel gunner needs to hit a button that should be pushed, and once all 4 are pushed then the green light is given to the driver. Or maybe they mandate the tire holder stands behind axle they are working on. Or maybe they limit the pit crew numbers. Besides, I personally would like to see more variance in pitstops.
Lesky
10th April 2018, 02:47
One question.
Why is NOBODY communicating with Raikkonen when he comes back to the pits? Would it not be normal for someone to inform him what was going on etc?
It just seems that everyone completely ignores him.
alfarom147
10th April 2018, 05:27
Speedy recovery Franco.
Read an article saying Ferrari's pit stop is different from other F1 teams. Anybody care to explain please?
Jakke74
10th April 2018, 07:32
Post race comments are nothing but PR non sense.
Yeah right. Even he had checked mechanic most people says that was just pr, he doesn't care. So why care post ig or call to mechanics afterwards, just for pr. Yeah that's just Kimi he cares nothing else just pr... or
How about hole wall crew? They don't care because they don't came to see? How about Seb, he don't care, just cruising around track?
Riccardog
10th April 2018, 15:47
All the hype about Kimi not caring...
you are in a podium position with the entire season ahead, and Mercedes as your competitor, where every point is GOLD...
The man was that his race was over... there were enough people around that he did not need to make a show...
I am most certain, in the garage his first question was... is Francesco all right!
as for not caring... I think he does, and has been in touch with Francesco.
as for the interviews... his response was ... his response, remember all, english is not his first language regardless...
and lastly... Well wishes to Francesco... :-) sorry about your injury, and a speedy recovery! SEE YOU in the pits SOONEST!!!!!
Tifoso
10th April 2018, 20:15
In bocca al lupo, Francesco!
Tifoso
10th April 2018, 20:16
Yeah right. Even he had checked mechanic most people says that was just pr, he doesn't care. So why care post ig or call to mechanics afterwards, just for pr. Yeah that's just Kimi he cares nothing else just pr... or
How about hole wall crew? They don't care because they don't came to see? How about Seb, he don't care, just cruising around track?
Tend to agree with this, TBH
Tifoso
10th April 2018, 20:19
Francesco doing his installation lap.:-D.....he's on crutches and cast is off. (video)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhWglylF7pR/
:lol :clap
Tony
10th April 2018, 20:33
That was horrific, it's amazing that he's up and walking about (albeit on crutches) so quickly!
SS454
11th April 2018, 06:19
Yeah right. Even he had checked mechanic most people says that was just pr, he doesn't care. So why care post ig or call to mechanics afterwards, just for pr. Yeah that's just Kimi he cares nothing else just pr... or
How about hole wall crew? They don't care because they don't came to see? How about Seb, he don't care, just cruising around track?
They didn't show what the pit wall did after the accident, but it did show Mauricio go back to the pit wall which perhaps means he checked on the injured guy. In any case, there were still those that needed to do a job. Kimi's job was over, and he was too busy pouting about his lost position and didn't bother to check on the guy he just ran over. Big difference. I mean seriously, mentioning Seb's lack of concern while racing?
What was shown was Kimi ignoring the guy he just ran over. That first impression matters. After that, the PR people get their hands in there and can tell Kimi to publicly show concern or to call him. Kimi calling his injured comrade shouldn't even be news. It should be an expectation. Yet Ferrari seemed the need to publicize his touching phone call of concern. I see that as damage control. Whether Kimi genuinely had compassion for the guy later is irrelevant, his initial actions showed a lack of concern for his teammate.
I don't let my passion for Ferrari or preference of Kimi over Seb obscure my logic. I call it like I see it, and to me Kimi looked pretty dis-concerned.
Brembo
11th April 2018, 08:57
Running a pit man over for the hell of it isn't good for his image. Thank God he didn't feel like backing up and getting him again. And with all Kimi's medical background why didn't he check to see if he could have helped? Truly "The Ice Man!". Please know I'm just trying to fit in with all the expert comments.
mwk360
11th April 2018, 09:29
Francesco doing his intallation lap.:-D.....he's on crutches and cast is off. (video)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhWglylF7pR/
great to see him doing better :-)
barzini77
11th April 2018, 15:13
They didn't show what the pit wall did after the accident, but it did show Mauricio go back to the pit wall which perhaps means he checked on the injured guy. In any case, there were still those that needed to do a job. Kimi's job was over, and he was too busy pouting about his lost position and didn't bother to check on the guy he just ran over. Big difference. I mean seriously, mentioning Seb's lack of concern while racing?
What was shown was Kimi ignoring the guy he just ran over. That first impression matters. After that, the PR people get their hands in there and can tell Kimi to publicly show concern or to call him. Kimi calling his injured comrade shouldn't even be news. It should be an expectation. Yet Ferrari seemed the need to publicize his touching phone call of concern. I see that as damage control. Whether Kimi genuinely had compassion for the guy later is irrelevant, his initial actions showed a lack of concern for his teammate.
I don't let my passion for Ferrari or preference of Kimi over Seb obscure my logic. I call it like I see it, and to me Kimi looked pretty dis-concerned.
Basicly what you say is: it doesn't matter what really is the case, but how YOU feel about it. Dear God..
First of all, watch the footage again: he didn't ignore the guy. Kimi came down the pitlane clearly angry about his DNF. Then at the Ferrari pitbox he sees the situation and stays behind to watch what is going on. At this point anyone who is NOT needed at the site shouldn't be on the site. Paramedics should be allowed to do their job. So because Kimi really can't do anything and rushing to him to say "I'm sorry, I'm sorry, are you hurt" can wait. The guy is in pain and the only thing he needs right now is medical attention. They can talk later when the situation is not that urgent.
So he didn't ignore him.
And what comes to his interviews.
A) He said that he hopes the guy is okey and keeps repeating "The light was green" (To me this seems like he is going through the accident in his head, what happened, why, could he have prevented it and so on.) In Finnish TV's interview he was clearly shocked and upset (quieter than normally in his Finnish interviews)
B) I'm 100 % certain that Ferrari doesn't want their driver to be the person who tells the live audience about the condition of the mechanic (at this point they probably don't even know because the mechanic was transported into hospital, most likely). So they want to wait until they know what the situation is and then issue a statement. Basic 1-on-1 on PR. And any case, a driver of the team is not the messenger in this matter.
C)And lastly: Kimi Räikkönen does not owe any apology to YOU or to me or to anyone watching the sport. It was not his fault what happened and he called the guy so I'm quite sure that is enough.
For many people this is just one case to show their dislike towards Kimi and also their own morale highground "I would've gone and weep with him, because I am a better person" (I am talking in general about this case, after seeing those very upset and overly dramatic social media reactions.)
mwk360
11th April 2018, 16:23
Basicly what you say is: it doesn't matter what really is the case, but how YOU feel about it. Dear God..
First of all, watch the footage again: he didn't ignore the guy. Kimi came down the pitlane clearly angry about his DNF. Then at the Ferrari pitbox he sees the situation and stays behind to watch what is going on. At this point anyone who is NOT needed at the site shouldn't be on the site. Paramedics should be allowed to do their job. So because Kimi really can't do anything and rushing to him to say "I'm sorry, I'm sorry, are you hurt" can wait. The guy is in pain and the only thing he needs right now is medical attention. They can talk later when the situation is not that urgent.
So he didn't ignore him.
And what comes to his interviews.
A) He said that he hopes the guy is okey and keeps repeating "The light was green" (To me this seems like he is going through the accident in his head, what happened, why, could he have prevented it and so on.) In Finnish TV's interview he was clearly shocked and upset (quieter than normally in his Finnish interviews)
B) I'm 100 % certain that Ferrari doesn't want their driver to be the person who tells the live audience about the condition of the mechanic (at this point they probably don't even know because the mechanic was transported into hospital, most likely). So they want to wait until they know what the situation is and then issue a statement. Basic 1-on-1 on PR. And any case, a driver of the team is not the messenger in this matter.
C)And lastly: Kimi Räikkönen does not owe any apology to YOU or to me or to anyone watching the sport. It was not his fault what happened and he called the guy so I'm quite sure that is enough.
For many people this is just one case to show their dislike towards Kimi and also their own morale highground "I would've gone and weep with him, because I am a better person" (I am talking in general about this case, after seeing those very upset and overly dramatic social media reactions.)
ferrari needs to sort out their pit equipment, kimi's messed up pit at free practice was a warning and it seems they didn't rectify the issue yet. Maybe they are still working on alternative pitstop equipment and i hope they bring it asap. Supposedly the wheel guns/nuts used are not doing the job properly for the ferrari teams. The tyre wasnt loose even after the wheel gun was used to remove the tyre, which is why unfortunately the whole incident at bahrain happened. Other 'experts' or 'people trying to give good explanations' say its either the equipment as well or that the shared ferrari parts that is used to tighten/loosen the tyre is getting tooo hot and the guns are failing to work properly.
A pure accident that should never happen again. hopefully ferrari take it seriously and solve this issue because reliability is very important and points lost by stupid wheel guns problems should be easily avoidable. Kimi lost 15/12 points and Haas lost very valuable points already.
Ed Harley
11th April 2018, 19:09
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/headlines/2018/4/fia-to-investigate-wheelguns-after-spate-of-unsafe-releases.html
mwk360
11th April 2018, 19:25
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/headlines/2018/4/fia-to-investigate-wheelguns-after-spate-of-unsafe-releases.html
Thankfully...
hoping its not some giant flaw in design that ferrari will have to change if the problems are not equipment
SS454
11th April 2018, 23:52
Basicly what you say is: it doesn't matter what really is the case, but how YOU feel about it. Dear God..
First of all, watch the footage again: he didn't ignore the guy. Kimi came down the pitlane clearly angry about his DNF. Then at the Ferrari pitbox he sees the situation and stays behind to watch what is going on. At this point anyone who is NOT needed at the site shouldn't be on the site. Paramedics should be allowed to do their job. So because Kimi really can't do anything and rushing to him to say "I'm sorry, I'm sorry, are you hurt" can wait. The guy is in pain and the only thing he needs right now is medical attention. They can talk later when the situation is not that urgent.
So he didn't ignore him.
And what comes to his interviews.
A) He said that he hopes the guy is okey and keeps repeating "The light was green" (To me this seems like he is going through the accident in his head, what happened, why, could he have prevented it and so on.) In Finnish TV's interview he was clearly shocked and upset (quieter than normally in his Finnish interviews)
B) I'm 100 % certain that Ferrari doesn't want their driver to be the person who tells the live audience about the condition of the mechanic (at this point they probably don't even know because the mechanic was transported into hospital, most likely). So they want to wait until they know what the situation is and then issue a statement. Basic 1-on-1 on PR. And any case, a driver of the team is not the messenger in this matter.
C)And lastly: Kimi Räikkönen does not owe any apology to YOU or to me or to anyone watching the sport. It was not his fault what happened and he called the guy so I'm quite sure that is enough.
For many people this is just one case to show their dislike towards Kimi and also their own morale highground "I would've gone and weep with him, because I am a better person" (I am talking in general about this case, after seeing those very upset and overly dramatic social media reactions.)
You seem to have completely misunderstood. The emphasis is on LATER. That is irrelevant. Not the question of if he had concern yes or no. People can believe what they want about Kimi's compassion, who cares, that's not what I am discussing. I am only commenting on what I clearly observed. Millions of others saw the same thing and it seems to be for the most part, only the Kimi/Ferrari fans defending him.
I certainly don't think anyone is suggesting Kimi ran over the person on purpose or it was a Kimi mistake. I also don't think anyone is asking him to apologize for anything. So why are you even suggesting that?
barzini77
12th April 2018, 15:58
You seem to have completely misunderstood. The emphasis is on LATER. That is irrelevant. Not the question of if he had concern yes or no. People can believe what they want about Kimi's compassion, who cares, that's not what I am discussing. I am only commenting on what I clearly observed. Millions of others saw the same thing and it seems to be for the most part, only the Kimi/Ferrari fans defending him.
I certainly don't think anyone is suggesting Kimi ran over the person on purpose or it was a Kimi mistake. I also don't think anyone is asking him to apologize for anything. So why are you even suggesting that?
But you and other decided that he wasn't concerned about him at the spot. That is just false. YOU decided on your head that he didn't care and later it was just PR stuff to say that he called the guy. That's not what happened.
512 TR
12th April 2018, 18:44
I really hope Francesco's leg and especially his knee will be alright. That looked so nasty. Hopefully the docs pieced it together as it should be. Get well soon, Francesco.
SS454
13th April 2018, 04:49
But you and other decided that he wasn't concerned about him at the spot. That is just false. YOU decided on your head that he didn't care and later it was just PR stuff to say that he called the guy. That's not what happened.
I didn't decide he wasn't concerned. I, along with millions of others saw a lack of concern. How can you say I'm wrong and you're right? Because you believe he cared?
There are those that make judgement on what they believe, and those that make judgement on what they see. Let's just agree to disagree.
barzini77
13th April 2018, 05:25
I didn't decide he wasn't concerned. I, along with millions of others saw a lack of concern. How can you say I'm wrong and you're right? Because you believe he cared?
There are those that make judgement on what they believe, and those that make judgement on what they see. Let's just agree to disagree.
Because I saw he was concerned about the mechanic? Watch the footage again.
Brembo
13th April 2018, 09:17
I remember clearly Shumy pushing Rubens into a wall. But for a hair of space Rubens said he would have been killed. No apology from Schumy . Perhaps Kimi was following Schumy's champion ways? No remorse. I remember how concerned fans were here. :rotfl
paolo lalli
13th April 2018, 09:17
100% correct what transpired was shock and dissapointment together this can cause a blank face.
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