2018 Russian GP build up thread.

[Giallo 550]

Tired of seeing the Singapore thread at the top. Lets look to Russia. :-)

[jgonzalesm6]

Everyone is "locked and loaded" on the hypersoft.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnY0Ig3V4AA8lKB.jpg

[Brembo]

Everyone is "locked and loaded" on the hypersoft.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnY0Ig3V4AA8lKB.jpg

Kimi will be on Michelin snow tires, just to calm the Geman down come quali. Ferrari needs this race!!!

[nani_s23]

Everyone is "locked and loaded" on the hypersoft.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnY0Ig3V4AA8lKB.jpg

ferrari going very aggressive at each race. I still wonder what went wrong with ferrari in Singapore quali on HS tyres.

[mwk360]

Sad thing is that Kimi will be getting the useful tow again at Sochi instead of Seb

[zike]

Sad thing is that Kimi will be getting the useful tow again at Sochi instead of Seb

It's Kimi turn, we don't have no1 and 2 :-D

[mwk360]

It's Kimi turn, we don't have no1 and 2 :-D

Lol yes this year unfortunately. Im sure the genius pitwall crew have a great reason for this. As seen by the beautiful results of seb and kimi messing each others races in china and monza

[mwk360]

Apparently this is a pic from yesterday of the Legendary Seb doing testing for Ferrari :-):pray

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dnpa3ZSXgAAxOzO.jpg

if im correct, Leclerc did testing the previous day to Seb , so maybe they are getting them used to the car on those new pirelli tyres for next year. lets hope they got the perfect data

[stefa]

It's Kimi turn, we don't have no1 and 2 :-D

Which is very stupid!!!

[mwk360]

Which is very stupid!!!

no doubt, putting drivers feelings above the championship has brought zero advantage when it comes to points that matter.

Lewy and perfect no.2 Bottas have the best dynamic for teaming up whilst all other teams have fights between each other

[KimiBot]

Yes, we need team orders, forget racing.

[Liscia]

No more mistakes please, Ferrari's red trainers have too many self-inflicted bullet holes as it is!
FORZA FERRARI!!!

[Giallo 550]

Yes, we need team orders, forget racing.

Yes; I agree. Forget teammates competing against each other when both championships are on the line.

[Brembo]

Yes; I agree. Forget teammates competing against each other when both championships are on the line.

Ferrari forgot about team mates competing against each other since Rubenization time. I can't imagine next year @ Ferrari if the German does not win this year. Will the #1 spot be negotiable ? :rotfl I actually feel sorry for Leclerc when he has to move over!!

[Giallo 550]

Ferrari forgot about team mates competing against each other since Rubenization time. I can't imagine next year @ Ferrari if the German does not win this year. Will the #1 spot be negotiable ? :rotfl I actually feel sorry for Leclerc when he has to move over!!

I think you've got a little thing for Rubens. :-D

[Brembo]

Little no! A big heart for Rubens who Todt wrecked with his radio! No chance on earth to come in 1st. Schumy was the best , he didn't need the midjet wrecking Rubens chances how ever few there were. Not true??? Austria 2002 ! Boring ? For me too.

[512 TR]

The softest compounds will be used in Russia. Three races this season have had the hyper softs tyres (Monaco, Canada and Singapore). It wasn't even close to have two normal pitstops in Monaco or Singapore because drivers could manage them and a pitstop would have lost them time. In Canada Ferrari started on the ultra softs because they managed to do Q2 on that compound. They never used the hypers in the race. Neither did Merc. RBR did start on the hypers and did 16-17 laps before switching to the super softs to the end. Everyone in the top six was on the super softs until the end. So the question prior to qualifying now will be if it's possible to do Q2 on the ultra softs as in Canada? If not then everyone in the top 10 will have to start on the hypers. Even though Russia is very easy on the tyres (some special asphalt) that will be the only chance to maybe have a two-stopper. Maybe the hypers will go off quicker than in Canada. There are at least a few quicker corners in Sochi compared to Montreal that may eat the tyres a little bit more. If they go off after 10 laps it may not be possible to do 40+ laps on the yellow softs without losing all pace on the last few laps. If it's possible to do Q2 on the ultras it will be a sure one-stop race for the frontrunners. If that happens our package will again not be able to extract the full potential. And if you add the fact that Merc seem to have found a new way to manage the softest compounds it will be hard to win.

[nani_s23]

Ferrari-vet will win Russia

[Ferrarichamp]

it's true that no driver has won 3 races in a row this year. Hopefully that's a good sign for us.

[FerrariF60]

Ferrari-vet will win Russia

that was our impressions and guesses in both Monza and especially Singapore where everyone tought we were the team to beat......and look what happened, "two chains" won both of those races

let's hope Ferrari and Seb can do something about that....and by that i mean a WIN

[tifosi1993]

Giovinazzi will be driving for Sauber in the FP1, replacing Ericsson.

[jgonzalesm6]

Giovinazzi will be driving for Sauber in the FP1, replacing Ericsson.

also

Latifi - Force India
Markelov - Renault
Norris - McLaren

[Ferrarichamp]

does anyone know what the current situation is with the top team's power units? Do RBR for example get penalties?

[mwk360]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dn37tHAWkAABpB6.jpg
https://twitter.com/wtf1official/status/1044267492410097664

mercs have advantage going into the RussiaGP looking at history lol

plus their team work

[mwk360]

Yes, we need team orders, forget racing.

championships > keeping kimi happy, but its already too late they are way too behind, still might have a slim chance if they finally enforce team orders

[KimiBot]

Yes, we can blame Kimi and Team if Seb does not win WDC.

[Ferrarichamp]

Yes, we can blame Kimi and Team if Seb does not win WDC.

we can blame all 3 if we dont win WCC.

[KimiBot]

we can blame all 3 if we dont win WCC.

Yeah, we should win WCC at least.

[mwk360]

we can blame all 3 if we dont win WCC.

^ this plain and simple , again for the WDC as well

[wappad]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dn37tHAWkAABpB6.jpg
https://twitter.com/wtf1official/status/1044267492410097664

mercs have advantage going into the RussiaGP looking at history lol

plus their team work

Pff...Why starting this build up thread so early ;-)

[Giallo 550]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dn37tHAWkAABpB6.jpg
https://twitter.com/wtf1official/status/1044267492410097664

mercs have advantage going into the RussiaGP looking at history lol

plus their team work

Well, at least Hamilton hasn't won it since 2015. Regardless of where they place, Vettel needs to consistently fight to be ahead of him for the remaining races, and then we'll see what the points look like. Really though, Hamilton needs to bin the car or be taken out for Vettel to really get back in the hunt.

[tifosi1993]

championships > keeping kimi happy, but its already too late they are way too behind, still might have a slim chance if they finally enforce team orders

Yes, all those crashes are Kimi and Ferrari's fault....

And Ferrari never enforced team orders and ordered Kimi to move over for Vettel...:lol

The "do or die" approach is pretty much what has gotten Vettel to the situation he is in now. And Vettel fans are creating a scapegoat while ignoring the real issues.

[FerrariF60]

Well, at least Hamilton hasn't won it since 2015. Regardless of where they place, Vettel needs to consistently fight to be ahead of him for the remaining races, and then we'll see what the points look like. Really though, Hamilton needs to bin the car or be taken out for Vettel to really get back in the hunt.

nO, Vettel needs to fight for the WIN at every single race remaining, and if he wins them all then it don’t matter where Two chains finishes

But fir that to happen he needs to approach every single race with a clear head, be somewhat aggressive but not too much cause that’s what gets him in trouble, and then we’ll see what the points tally is at the end of the year.....hopefully in our favour

[mwk360]

Yes, all those crashes are Kimi and Ferrari's fault....

And Ferrari never enforced team orders and ordered Kimi to move over for Vettel...:lol

The "do or die" approach is pretty much what has gotten Vettel to the situation he is in now. And Vettel fans are creating a scapegoat while ignoring the real issues.

lol ill just leave this article

https://m.motorsport-magazin.com/formel1/news-250406-formel-1-sebastian-vettel-ferrari-danner-klartext-vettel-opfer-ferraris-orientierungslosigkeit/

seb's just as much fault as the team and kimi for this years results

[tifosi1993]

lol ill just leave this article

https://m.motorsport-magazin.com/formel1/news-250406-formel-1-sebastian-vettel-ferrari-danner-klartext-vettel-opfer-ferraris-orientierungslosigkeit/

seb's just as much fault as the team and kimi for this years results

I really don't care about "Shoulda Woulda Coulda" articles.

The simple fact is, which you simply can't grasp it seems, Vettel's costly mistakes in France, Germany and Italy, are the main reasons why he is 40 points behind. There are too many examples of first lap incidents even if you can quibble over which races to include.

[FerrariF60]

I really don't care about "Shoulda Woulda Coulda" articles.

The simple fact is, which you simply can't grasp it seems, Vettel's costly mistakes in France, Germany and Italy, are the main reasons why he is 40 points behind. There are too many examples of first lap incidents even if you can quibble over which races to include.

totally agree....i know the team has made some mistakes too, but if it wasn't for Vettel's mistakes (that were totally his own fault) he could have had a good lead over Luise....

if he loses the WDC by lets say 20pts or so, he can ONLY kick himself for that

[Giallo 550]

nO, Vettel needs to fight for the WIN at every single race remaining, and if he wins them all then it don’t matter where Two chains finishes

But fir that to happen he needs to approach every single race with a clear head, be somewhat aggressive but not too much cause that’s what gets him in trouble, and then we’ll see what the points tally is at the end of the year.....hopefully in our favour

You're right, but I think those expectations are unrealistic and I hope everyone does exactly as you say.

[FerrariDave]

At this crucial point in the season I think it will be a great point in time to look back on at the end of the year and see what we and the other teams did to finish off the season based on the positions we put ourselves in up to this point.

Regardless of the outcome this year, it will be a season of learning for driver and the team in this modern era of racing.

Driver: Do your maximum but plan and manage risk. You want to win every race, but if you want to win the championship you need to manage your risk. Our modern understanding of a great racer is one who focus' on the big picture and doesn't give in to pressure in the moment. Seb is a great racer, we all know that. Some of the passes he has done over the years have been brilliant and are always exciting.. When he is coming up behind a car and you know a battle is about to ensue you know it will be "on the edge of your seat" entertaining. But sometimes the risk is not worth it unfortunately, and we can't fault him for giving it a go, that is Seb. But hopefully he will understand he can still go for these just not every single time, if he wants to win another championship during a competitive season anyways.

Team: A clear number 1 driver sooner in the season should have been part of the driver's contracts from day 1. Fighting your teammate when your car is NOT 2 seconds a lap faster than the others is the best way to give other teams a chance at beating you. This has put pressure on the drivers and what they are capable of.

Poor strategy calls are a clear indication of not knowing your true capabilities.

"Head down, stay calm".. you can say it all you want but so far our team and driver are focused on not being calm: Singapore practice, Italy practice, Belgium quali, etc. were not calm moments for the team

Hopefully we can start NOW on implementing new visions on how we go forward in this sport as a team which will make us a stronger and more unified not just for this season but rolling into next year and the future.

A little bit of luck would help too, and regardless of what has happened to now I am still very excited for this weekend. I will never lose hope in our team, can't wait for the next win, I will be waving our flag. :ferrarifl

Forza Ferrari

[mwk360]

At this crucial point in the season I think it will be a great point in time to look back on at the end of the year and see what we and the other teams did to finish off the season based on the positions we put ourselves in up to this point.

Regardless of the outcome this year, it will be a season of learning for driver and the team in this modern era of racing.

Driver: Do your maximum but plan and manage risk. You want to win every race, but if you want to win the championship you need to manage your risk. Our modern understanding of a great racer is one who focus' on the big picture and doesn't give in to pressure in the moment. Seb is a great racer, we all know that. Some of the passes he has done over the years have been brilliant and are always exciting.. When he is coming up behind a car and you know a battle is about to ensue you know it will be "on the edge of your seat" entertaining. But sometimes the risk is not worth it unfortunately, and we can't fault him for giving it a go, that is Seb. But hopefully he will understand he can still go for these just not every single time, if he wants to win another championship during a competitive season anyways.

Team: A clear number 1 driver sooner in the season should have been part of the driver's contracts from day 1. Fighting your teammate when your car is NOT 2 seconds a lap faster than the others is the best way to give other teams a chance at beating you. This has put pressure on the drivers and what they are capable of.

Poor strategy calls are a clear indication of not knowing your true capabilities.

"Head down, stay calm".. you can say it all you want but so far our team and driver are focused on not being calm: Singapore practice, Italy practice, Belgium quali, etc. were not calm moments for the team

Hopefully we can start NOW on implementing new visions on how we go forward in this sport as a team which will make us a stronger and more unified not just for this season but rolling into next year and the future.

A little bit of luck would help too, and regardless of what has happened to now I am still very excited for this weekend. I will never lose hope in our team, can't wait for the next win, I will be waving our flag. :ferrarifl

Forza Ferrari

:thumb

[Ferrarichamp]

does anyone know what the current situation is with the top team's power units? Do RBR for example get penalties?

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.sochi-is-going-to-be-tough-red-bull-braced-for-russia-engine-penalties.6SkyiMEdpYOQcM8gcQUO2g.html

[zike]

At this crucial point in the season I think it will be a great point in time to look back on at the end of the year and see what we and the other teams did to finish off the season based on the positions we put ourselves in up to this point.

Regardless of the outcome this year, it will be a season of learning for driver and the team in this modern era of racing.

Driver: Do your maximum but plan and manage risk. You want to win every race, but if you want to win the championship you need to manage your risk. Our modern understanding of a great racer is one who focus' on the big picture and doesn't give in to pressure in the moment. Seb is a great racer, we all know that. Some of the passes he has done over the years have been brilliant and are always exciting.. When he is coming up behind a car and you know a battle is about to ensue you know it will be "on the edge of your seat" entertaining. But sometimes the risk is not worth it unfortunately, and we can't fault him for giving it a go, that is Seb. But hopefully he will understand he can still go for these just not every single time, if he wants to win another championship during a competitive season anyways.

Team: A clear number 1 driver sooner in the season should have been part of the driver's contracts from day 1. Fighting your teammate when your car is NOT 2 seconds a lap faster than the others is the best way to give other teams a chance at beating you. This has put pressure on the drivers and what they are capable of.

Poor strategy calls are a clear indication of not knowing your true capabilities.

"Head down, stay calm".. you can say it all you want but so far our team and driver are focused on not being calm: Singapore practice, Italy practice, Belgium quali, etc. were not calm moments for the team

Hopefully we can start NOW on implementing new visions on how we go forward in this sport as a team which will make us a stronger and more unified not just for this season but rolling into next year and the future.

A little bit of luck would help too, and regardless of what has happened to now I am still very excited for this weekend. I will never lose hope in our team, can't wait for the next win, I will be waving our flag. :ferrarifl

Forza Ferrari

At least I can watch the remaining 6 GPs in peace knowing the tile is gone

[Vettel165]

At least I can watch the remaining 6 GPs in peace knowing the tile is gone

6 wins in the row for Seb incoming. All will be well my friend...:-)

https://i.postimg.cc/gJKKcxwh/Brez_naslova.png (https://postimg.cc/vgcn3Ht8)

[jgonzalesm6]

Race Stewards

Garry Connelly (Max's favorite :-D)
Dennis Dean
Emanuele Pirro [Drivers Representative]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoBtZgLXUAIEsXK.jpg

[jgonzalesm6]

Pics of Ferrari's rear rims (Kimi's maybe)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoBYURRW0AEtI6e.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoBYU1HX0AAWGjf.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoBYVd0XkAIAwX5.jpg

[PURE PASSION]

Pics of Ferrari's rear rims (Kimi's maybe)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoBYURRW0AEtI6e.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoBYU1HX0AAWGjf.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoBYVd0XkAIAwX5.jpg

Are they new?

[jgonzalesm6]

Are they new?

No.

[jgonzalesm6]

Ferrari running "W09" rear wing with "Mclaren" side sliced endplates.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoFaVnVXcAAKIn1.jpg

[mwk360]

Ferrari running "W09" rear wing with "Mclaren" side sliced endplates.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoFaVnVXcAAKIn1.jpg

nice!, seems the second half of the season is still not as productive as the initial first half when it comes to aero updates, so i dont mind borrowing ideas from the top team, others did that to ferrari when they actually had good ideas early on this year

[tifosi1993]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoF7T81X0AApLNc.jpg

[tifosi1993]

Different spec FW

https://i.imgur.com/jrEiHxb.jpg

[jgonzalesm6]

Alfa-Sauber introducing some blue in their paint scheme.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoGJI8kXUAAC5P7.jpg


Mercedes with some adjustments to their front wing, bargeboard area and side pod deflector

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoGL6NuX0AALQyR.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoGRPVyX0AA1cFS.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoGRP6NXgAEGOji.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoGgo94W0AA6h5H.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoGgte7X0AI6f_M.jpg


Renault with some aero updates on the floor

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoGM3kUWkAE_pai.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoGM4QPXsAAKEQj.jpg

[WRX202]

Alfa-Sauber introducing some blue in their paint scheme.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoGJI8kXUAAC5P7.jpg


Mercedes with some adjustments to their front wing, bargeboard area and side pod deflector

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoGL6NuX0AALQyR.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoGRPVyX0AA1cFS.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoGRP6NXgAEGOji.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoGgo94W0AA6h5H.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoGgte7X0AI6f_M.jpg


Renault with some aero updates on the floor

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoGM3kUWkAE_pai.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoGM4QPXsAAKEQj.jpg



Mercedes have also Brake upgrades. Much wider cooling vents and design. They're leaving no stone unturned till the last GP!

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[zike]

Mercedes have also Brake upgrades. Much wider cooling vents and design. They're leaving no stone unturned till the last GP!

And what update do we have?? None!!

[FerrariF60]

And what update do we have?? None!!

we have a new front wing....and maybe others that are not that visible

[jgonzalesm6]

And what update do we have?? None!!

The front wing and endplate slots on the rear wing. We're gonna play with both of them to see which setup is best.

Aside from that, the CAR does'nt really need updates.......:-D (wink wink)


we have a new front wing....and maybe others that are not that visible

Yep. More will pop up as these 2 days go by.....maybe.

[mwk360]

And what update do we have?? None!!

lol second half of the season, seems our well has run dry, we borrowing ideas from merc and mclaren but its better than doing nothing imo, others copied ferrari when we had good ideas but we are falling very far behind to mercs in aero and chassis, so our engine is the only thing that even keeps the car near the top seems mercs are just running away with the points and the better car now, they fixed all their issues too.

[mwk360]

lol mercs copied ferrari's double attachment to the rear wing part, can they please stop evolving there car, im sure they have got moles in other teams to beable to operate at such a level

[PURE PASSION]

And new turning vanes.
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[KimiBot]

lol mercs copied ferrari's double attachment to the rear wing part, can they please stop evolving there car, im sure they have got moles in other teams to beable to operate at such a level

Yes, Mercedes Team is just so great. I get it now, after your 7 500 posts I finally get it, Mercedes is great.

I really don`t understand why you are here.

Are you doing some psychological experiment with fans or what, clearly every one can see that what you are doing, question is, why are you doing this.

[mwk360]

RUMOR: Its confirmed penalties for both Red Bull drivers who return to B spec Renault engines and also Toro Rosso with both driver with the new evolution. McLaren are evaluating new engine for Alonso. If it's not for Friday, it would be for Saturday.

[bondilad]

So if confirmed how can it be a rumor ? :-D

[mwk360]

So if confirmed how can it be a rumor ? :-D

true, thats my bad lol i added the "rumor", because these guys usually twist their "confirmed" reporting when it is incorrect

[Rob]

there is a separate thread for car updates and pictures. Please use that thread for this race and upcoming races.

Thankyou.
http://www.thescuderia.net/forums/showthread.php/33832-SF71H-2018-Contender/page36