2019 FrenchGP: Race

[KimiBot]

Interesting to see
-overtakes by Seb
-can Seb beat Max
-can Bottas win start (and race)
-how Renault`s are doing
-Gio beating Kimi?
-Charles hopefully can keep P3

anyways


:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl

[Brembo]

Great post !! All that is what makes the races still great fun to watch !

[KimiBot]

Yes, and hopefully clean start without crashes.

[stefa]

Honestly I would rather spent my time outside, but it seams some heavy storm is on the way... So I'll torture my self by watching American wrestling like racing, once called F1 (R.I.P.). Primadonna with moan about this and that, and at the end he will manage with almost Godlike efforts to win, he will thank his team and great crowd and bla, bla, bla....:lou

[KimiBot]

Honestly I would rather spent my time outside, but it seams some heavy storm is on the way... So I'll torture my self by watching American wrestling like racing, once called F1 (R.I.P.). Primadonna with moan about this and that, and at the end he will manage with almost Godlike efforts to win, he will thank his team and great crowd and bla, bla, bla....:lou

Yes, that`s the way it is now, but is fascinating anyway to see guys racing something like 350-350 kph. That is what we have, let`s try to enjoy it, Mercs dominance will come to end, sooner or later.

[jgonzalesm6]

Sir Jackie Stewarts 80th birthday today.

They celebrated with a cake and tartan hats.

https://twitter.com/F1/status/1142770179648176128

[jgonzalesm6]

AMuS has compiled an image to show you the new rear wing endplate on the Ferrari. You can see that slats were shortened on the lower section of the endplate. The cutout above, on the hand of the mechanic, has been changed a bit as well.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9vXd0GXYAANYgK.jpg

[KimiBot]

Sir Jackie Stewarts 80th birthday today.

They celebrated with a cake and tartan hats.

https://twitter.com/F1/status/1142770179648176128

Saw his interview today, gotta love this guy.

[chinmay]

8 parts changed on Vettel's car after qualifying.

[Katu]

to be honest, i really liked that McLaren got good result yesterday, so i hope Vettel won't screw it while trying to overtake them and spin himself and others out

[FerrariF60]

to be honest, i really liked that McLaren got good result yesterday, so i hope Vettel won't screw it while trying to overtake them and spin himself and others out

ha, ha....like he did last year with botas......vettel doing the ballerina.....what he does best, he's past his prime....get him OUTTA there....and bring Max in

[tifosi1993]

Top 8 starting on mediums.

[512 TR]

I'm watching. Just to let you know. Why? I don't know.

[Arcana]

ha, ha....like he did last year with botas......vettel doing the ballerina.....what he does best, he's past his prime....get him OUTTA there....and bring Max in

I predict a verly boring race unless Vettel spins or just crashes.

[WS6TransAm01]

If my dog hadn’t woken me up, I would have gladly slept through this race.

Why am I even watching a race who’s finish is predetermined?

[stefa]

And now boring fest

[JChan]

Yahoooo!!! Its Hamilton Again and again hahaha, if not stewards will find a solution for a MERC Win! what a boring race

[FerrariF60]

so vet can't even pass a mclaren??? what a crappy car with NO front end downforce at all......

[stefa]

Something is terribly wrong when SV cannot overtake McLaren?!!!?

[stefa]

At last!

[tifosi1993]

so vet can't even pass a mclaren??? what a crappy car with NO front end downforce at all......

They have a very good straight line speed. That Mclaren may be lacking downforce, but it's drag level is quite low

[JChan]

Hamilton the Boring got FL at every lap.

[DJTaurus]

Both Ferrari’s awful race start.

[FerrariF60]

They have a very good straight line speed. That Mclaren may be lacking downforce, but it's drag level is quite low

so kind of like our crappy car.....aero efficient, good straight line speed but HARDLY any downforce....LOL

[tifosi1993]

Vettel now ahead of Sainz

[stefa]

I am already napping...

[DJTaurus]

Queens final is more interesting [emoji14]

[Arcana]

Vettel now ahead of Sainz

He will finish the race where he is now, unless he bins it in a wall.

[Katu]

i wonder how Ferrari thinks Vettel will get a podium place if there's already hamilton, bottas and Charles... will they find a way to screw the last one again?

[FerrariF60]

I am already napping...

me too.....such a boring race and a season; so unless merc have some reliability issues (which is pretty unlikely), they'll win all 21 races.....NOW THAT IS BORING AND BAD

[FerrariF60]

i wonder how Ferrari thinks Vettel will get a podium place if there's already hamilton, bottas and Charles... will they find a way to screw the last one again?

you can bet your bottom dollar they will......:(

[tifosi1993]

Strange...Ferrari losing time in S1 and 2 but not in S3. Maybe they've sacrificed a bit more straight line.

[JChan]

i wonder how Ferrari thinks Vettel will get a podium place if there's already hamilton, bottas and Charles... will they find a way to screw the last one again?

FIA will change the rule for the podium it will consist of first 5 places at the podium, so that we will not bully maFIA anymore.

[chinmay]

i wonder how Ferrari thinks Vettel will get a podium place if there's already hamilton, bottas and Charles... will they find a way to screw the last one again?

Keep on crying, Sky says Vettel got very good pace. He just set fastest lap as well.

[tifosi1993]

Rapid pace from Vettel, fastest lap and purple time in S3

[FerrariF60]

FIA will change the rule for the podium it will consist of first 5 places at the podium, so that we will not bully maFIA anymore.

lol.....good one

[stefa]

And the moaning starts

[FerrariF60]

And the moaning starts

yeAH, SUCH drama in lewis's car....LOL
all that drama and goes fastest still......waha a drama QUEEN

[Arcana]

Keep on crying, Sky says Vettel got very good pace. He just set fastest lap as well.

Compared to Merc, his pace is garbage. So it doesn't matter what he does. Last lap Ham was 0.8 faster than him.

[512 TR]

Another penalty to kill F1 (beating a dead horse into pulp)... Perez this time...never Lewis for the same. Always someone else.

[Hornet]

Another miracle win for Lewis incoming :-D

[FerrariF60]

charles keeps dropping back.....we have ABSOLUTELY NO PACE to keep up with the mercs.....then again we already knew that

[FerrariF60]

Another miracle win for Lewis incoming :-D

yeah, espcially wiht all the issues he's had to deal in the car....YEAH RIGHT.....SUCH DRAMA AT MERC AND HAMSTER

[tifosi1993]

Incoming Vettel vs Verstappen battle

[FerrariF60]

Incoming Vettel vs Verstappen battle

OH, so we'll get to see some more moves from the BALLERINA.....CAN'T WAIT TO SEE

[DJTaurus]

Race by Race Lec seems like NOT THE real deal lots of people wished for......

[chinmay]

Compared to Merc, his pace is garbage. So it doesn't matter what he does. Last lap Ham was 0.8 faster than him.

They are comparing Seb's pace to Charles and Max for the remaining podium place. Mercedes 1-2 is a done deal already.

[Arcana]

OH, so we'll get to see some more moves from the BALLERINA.....CAN'T WAIT TO SEE

He's 4.7 sec behind Max. They will all pit until Vettel crawls few more seconds. So no ballerina with Max at the moment.

[JChan]

Lewis on team radio: I have a BIG BIG problem...

Team: what is it Lewis???

Lewis: I can't stop my car it's so fast! fastest lap on every lap.

[stefa]

Race by Race Lec seems like NOT THE real deal lots of people wished for......

I would not go in that way yet... I would say the car is garbage!

[nani_s23]

DR move

[nani_s23]

I would not go in that way yet... I would say the car is garbage!

Yeah right statement

[stefa]

Lewis on team radio: I have a BIG BIG problem...

Team: what is it Lewis???

Lewis: I can't stop my car it's so fast! fastest lap on every lap.
:rotfl

[FerrariF60]

Race by Race Lec seems like NOT THE real deal lots of people wished for......

really??? he's doing what he can mate with the %$%##$ car Ferrari gave him....nuf said

[nani_s23]

Lewis on team radio: I have a BIG BIG problem...

Team: what is it Lewis???

Lewis: I can't stop my car it's so fast! fastest lap on every lap.

:rotfl

[512 TR]

How do people enjoy this, taking a trip from the french riviera to watch this ? How do you justify it? Where is the value for money? Is watching Ferrari struggle on thinner thread tyres, again, a turn on? If so, then that's sick.

[Greig]

Race by Race Lec seems like NOT THE real deal lots of people wished for......

Based on lapping pretty much the same as Seb?

[FerrariF60]

He's 4.7 sec behind Max. They will all pit until Vettel crawls few more seconds. So no ballerina with Max at the moment.

oh bummer.....there goes my wish.....

[KimiBot]

Incoming Vettel vs Verstappen battle

:thumb

[Greig]

How do people enjoy this, taking a trip from the french riviera to watch this ? How do you justify it? Where is the value for money? Is watching Ferrari struggle on thinner thread tyres, again, a turn on? If so, then that's sick.

Turn it off already since F1 is dead.

[tifosi1993]

Max Pits!

[bonzo]

I would not go in that way yet... I would say the car is garbage!

Prancing horse is actually limping horse

[stefa]

really??? he's doing what he can mate with the %$%##$ car Ferrari gave him....nuf said
:clap

[Arcana]

Max Pits!

Yes so no Max - Seb duel.

[Arcana]

Go as long as possible hahaha... they do their best *NOT* to finish top 10.

[FerrariF60]

Prancing horse is actually limping horse

more like limping MULE....

[KimiBot]

SC now and Charles win the race

[512 TR]

No, I'm going to endure this to the end. Because I still want to watch Spa and Monza. So I need to do this...for myself.

[Katu]

Race by Race Lec seems like NOT THE real deal lots of people wished for......

race after race, vettel seems not like the real deal RB made him look like

[JChan]

How do people enjoy this, taking a trip from the french riviera to watch this ? How do you justify it? Where is the value for money? Is watching Ferrari struggle on thinner thread tyres, again, a turn on? If so, then that's sick.

people got no choice because they booked it earlier, even me got screwed were fast in testing, so I booked a GP for Singapore GP and I will experience a boring race.

[tifosi1993]

Now they're ******* up Vettel's race, they should've pitted him with Max :roll

[stefa]

race after race, vettel seems not like the real deal RB made him look like

Race by race and Ferrari looks more and more like garbage car with mediocre pit wall management!

[tifosi1993]

Leclerc pretty handy on this hard compound, closing in on Bottas

[vcs316]

Go Charles! Get Bottas for P2!!

[bonzo]

Race by race and Ferrari looks more and more like garbage car with mediocre pit wall management!

And a hopeless pathetic team boss

[FerrariF60]

Race by race and Ferrari looks more and more like garbage car with mediocre pit wall management!

pretty much sums up Ferraris pace and strategy calls since.....well since a long time...amateurs and mediocre at best.....SAD BUT SOOOOOOOOOOO TRUE

[FerrariF60]

Leclerc pretty handy on this hard compound, closing in on Bottas

relax mate, preolly potato head botas jsut managing tires.....they got plenty pace in hand if they want to pull a way.....they just wnat it to look a bit interesting adn hopeful for the Fans....

[Arcana]

Race by race and Ferrari looks more and more like garbage car with mediocre pit wall management!

Their pit wall was mediocre all year long. But at least today they have an excuse: no matter what they would try to do, there is not way to beat the Mercs. And by chance if they somehow find themselves in front of a Merc, FIA will act swiftly to put them back in their place.

[bonzo]

Seb slower than Max. What a shame

[stefa]

Leclerc pretty handy on this hard compound, closing in on Bottas

It is 4 and growing

[Christopher]

:-ZZ:-ZZ

[stefa]

:-ZZ:-ZZ

Yes. I've just caught myself sleeping!

[stefa]

I don't know for you guys, but this is boring and painful to watch... I am out

[Cavallino]

The merc didn't win last year on the thicker gauge tyre. We ran 3 races on the these thinner gauge that cost us a load of points. Not to mention the protest against our engine. And Crashtappen cost me like 50 points.

[chinmay]

They will pit Vettel at the end of race to get fastest lap.

[Cavallino]

They will pit Vettel at the end of race to get fastest lap.

i want 3 - 4

[Greig]

The merc didn't win last year on the thicker gauge tyre. We ran 3 races on the these thinner gauge that cost us a load of points. Not to mention the protest against our engine. And Crashtappen cost me like 50 points.

We won at Silverstone with them, Seb crashing in France cost us ton of points rather than tyres when we had good pace, only Barcelona we were terrible but that was down to us rather than tyres.

[bondilad]

At this rate will be 30 seconds behind the mercs by the end:-s

[vcs316]

Sums up this season perfectly:


Leclerc is asked if he can push more. "I could, but it's not good for the tyres, so no," he says.

[DelMar]

We won at Silverstone with them, Seb crashing in France cost us ton of points rather than tyres when we had good pace, only Barcelona we were terrible but that was down to us rather than tyres.
Yes but with poor start from pole by Lewis and third corner incident between Kimi and Lewis.

[Cavallino]

We won at Silverstone with them, Seb crashing in France cost us ton of points rather than tyres when we had good pace, only Barcelona we were terrible but that was down to us rather than tyres.

Seb wasn't going to win France. And Silverstone we won because Kimi took out Hamilton.

I agree we did good damage limitation on those tyres last year.

[Arcana]

Is it me or hard tires are already gone for Seb ?

[tifosi1993]

Max is now closing on Charles

[chinmay]

We won at Silverstone with them, Seb crashing in France cost us ton of points rather than tyres when we had good pace, only Barcelona we were terrible but that was down to us rather than tyres.

Seb qualified 3rd and finished 5th. Lost only 5 points due to crash, far from "ton of points" :lol

[Greig]

Seb qualified 3rd and finished 5th. Lost only 5 points due to crash, far from "ton of points" :lol

Still crashed and cost us ton of points

[Christopher]

Surely Seb should again and try have ago at Max with fresh tyres

[512 TR]

We won at Silverstone with them, Seb crashing in France cost us ton of points rather than tyres when we had good pace, only Barcelona we were terrible but that was down to us rather than tyres.

Every time you write this BS statement you forget that Kimi knocked Lewis back to last at the start at Silverstone 2018. Are you really this DAFT? Had this not happened Seb wouldn't have won. Lewis would have. I was injured by an accident at the time but I remember it correctly.

[FerrariF60]

We won at Silverstone with them, Seb crashing in France cost us ton of points rather than tyres when we had good pace, only Barcelona we were terrible but that was down to us rather than tyres.

mate, sorry to burst your bubble, but we only won silverstone due to Kimi's help, remember??? wasn't that long ago
if Kiki wouldn't have spun humster, he woudl have won da race......me thinks

[Cavallino]

Seb qualified 3rd and finished 5th. Lost only 5 points due to crash, far from "ton of points" :lol

Hamilton gained more than 25 points on Seb with France and Barcelona...

[FerrariF60]

At this rate will be 30 seconds behind the mercs by the end:-s

good think there's NOT a whjole lot of laps left.....

[Greig]

Every time you write this statement you forget that Kimi knocked Lewis back to last at the start at Silverstone 2018. Are really this DAFT?

Check the results, Seb P1 deal with it, or was F1 dead back then too?

[tifosi1993]

Seb qualified 3rd and finished 5th. Lost only 5 points due to crash, far from "ton of points" :lol

It's always better not to crash

[Cavallino]

It's always better not to crash

someone should remind Seb

[Greig]

mate, sorry to burst your bubble, but we only won silverstone due to Kimi's help, remember??? wasn't that long ago
if Kiki wouldn't have spun humster, he woudl have won da race......me thinks

I remember, I was there, still not certain Lewis would have won. Seb did win.

[FerrariF60]

Is it me or hard tires are already gone for Seb ?

yeah, they're gone.....betcha they'll pit him with 3 laps to go for some soft tires for the fastest lap...now tha would make sense

[chinmay]

Hamilton gained more than 25 points on Seb with France and Barcelona...

Even with the best case, he would have still gained 20 points if Vettel finished 3rd in both races. 1-2 was not possible in either case.

[IulianFerrari]

Ahhh already talking about the times we won races I see. Those were the days, remember a Ferrari driver on the top step? I remember.

[Greig]

Even with the best case, he would have still gained 20 points if Vettel finished 3rd in both races. 1-2 was not possible in either case.

France could have fought for the win if not for his mistake.

[FerrariF60]

I remember, I was there, still not certain Lewis would have won. Seb did win.

again an refresher for ya......with Kimi's help....nuf said

[512 TR]

Check the results, Seb P1 deal with it, or was F1 dead back then too?

You REALLY are an A-hole! You know that. FU! You're no Tifoso, you're a fake.

BAN ME!

[Greig]

again an refresher for ya......with Kimi's help....nuf said

Yawn, Seb had the pace to win regardless.

[Cavallino]

Even with the best case, he would have still gained 20 points if Vettel finished 3rd in both races. 1-2 was not possible in either case.

20 points. there ya go.

[Greig]

You REALLY are an A-hole! You know that. FU! You're no Tifoso, you're a fake.

Log off, your account is as dead as F1 :-)

[FerrariF60]

Ahhh already talking about the times we won races I see. Those were the days, remember a Ferrari driver on the top step? I remember.

asa este......a fost asa de demult ca e foarte greu sami amintesc......LOL

[PURE PASSION]

We dont have pace on Hards. And the strange thing is that Mercs tires looks destroyed and ours look on pretty good shape, AND again the lap times are the complete opposite.

[chinmay]

20 points. there ya go.

And nothing Vettel could do about it, right? Mercedes too quick in Spain and France.

[Cavallino]

And Silverstone is a completely different track from Paul Ricard and Barcelona.

[FerrariF60]

Yawn, Seb had the pace to win regardless.

sure he did.....keep telling that to yourself

[tifosi1993]

Charles FL!

[Greig]

sure he did.....keep telling that to yourself

He won the race, end off :-)

[chinmay]

Won't be long before both Mercedes decide to set a fastest lap 1 second faster.

[Cavallino]

And nothing Vettel could do about it, right? Mercedes too quick in Spain and France.

but those are 20 points that those tyres gifted Mercedes. That's the point. What if the race were run on the thicker gauge tyres, did you see the overheating issues Mercedes had in Austria last year? The same thing would have happened in those 2 races.

[FerrariF60]

Yawn, Seb had the pace to win regardless.

are we both taling about hte same BALLERINA???? he got lucky and won Silversone becaues his teammate took Lewis out

[chinmay]

but those are 20 points that those tyres gifted Mercedes. That's the point. What if the race were run on the thicker gauge tyres, did you see the overheating issues Mercedes had in Austria last year? The same thing would have happened in those 2 races.

Oh yes, Mercedes loves those tyres. Without Kimi's help, Hamilton would have won Silverstone too.

[Greig]

are we both taling about hte same BALLERINA???? he got lucky and won Silversone becaues his teammate took Lewis out

Yawn, won it because he finished the race quicker than anyone else.

[Cavallino]

Oh yes, Mercedes loves those tyres. Without Kimi's help, Hamilton would have won Silverstone too.

exactly. the complexity of the championship last year would have been completely different.

[512 TR]

Lewis lost about 35 seconds because of the "Kimi inicident" at Silverstone 2018 last year. He gained all that back, yes, with a SC but he would have won anyway. Did you see the post race PC when Kimi "smiled". He took one for Seb at the time.

If this Greig A-Hole tells you otherwise, then he is wrong, a BS:er.

THESE TYRES HAVE TO GO. Back to 2018. Lewis will beat Michael's records otherwise, with BS help.

[Christopher]

Seb's stopping for fastest lap I guess

[FerrariF60]

Yawn, won it because he finished the race quicker than anyone else.

yes he did win.....but ONLY with some help
had lewis not been spun out by kimi, it would been a diff outcome me thinks and ballerina would nave NOT been on the TOP step
but of course you can't seem to get that.....

[Greig]

yes he did win.....but ONLY with some help
had lewis not been spun out by kimi, it would been a diff outcome me thinks and ballerina would nave NOT been on the TOP step
but of course you can't seem to get that.....

Would have been same outcome :-) you can't seem to get that. Seb had great race pace.

[vcs316]

Vettel is told they are going for "Plan F," which is presumably for fastest lap. The German has a free pit stop, with Sainz behind over 50s back, and thus could bolt on the soft tyre for the final couple of laps and try to get that bonus point.

[Arcana]

I'll have a good laugh if Merc retains the fastest lap on those old hard tires.

[FerrariF60]

it's so sad when we're so bad and scrambling for extra points by pitting and going for fastest lap of the race.....absolutely discrace by Ferrari.....

[tifosi1993]

Leclerc pretty close to Bottas now, less than 4 seconds

[FerrariF60]

I'll have a good laugh if Merc retains the fastest lap on those old hard tires.

yeah, that would be the laughing stock of Ferrrai if the ballerina can't even beat that with the softest tire.....LOLOLOL

[FerrariF60]

Leclerc pretty close to Bottas now, less than 4 seconds

jsut relax mate, don't get overly excited....he's jsut managing tires or engine.....he's got it in his pocket adn can pick up the pace if he really wants to in the formula MERCE/PIRELLI

[tifosi1993]

Last lap

Bottas 1:34.949

Leclerc 1:34.368

Come on Charles!

[tifosi1993]

VSC

[Arcana]

yeah, that would be the laughing stock of Ferrrai if the ballerina can't even beat that with the softest tire.....LOLOLOL

Hmm virtual safety car ? So no ballerina in action ?

[tifosi1993]

Leclerc very very close to Bottas now, only 2 seconds

[FerrariF60]

Hmm virtual safety car ? So no ballerina in action ?

OHHHHH bummer......was so looking to it

[tifosi1993]

Gap is now less than 2 seconds, he can get Bottas

[Arcana]

Seb PITS!

[FerrariF60]

BALLERINA is in.....

[Greig]

BALLERINA is in.....

Use his name please, don't be pathetic.

[tifosi1993]

Leclcrc is now on DRS range, and the stupid race director focusing on Mclaren :roll

[tifosi1993]

That was close. Well done Charles

[FerrariF60]

Use his name please, don't be pathetic.

i could, we we ALL know who he is.....

[Christopher]

1 more lap and Leclerc would have got him

[Arcana]

Seb got it... barely got it... A shame that Leclerc couldn't beat Bottas though...

[Greig]

i could, we we ALL know who he is.....

As I said just use his name, don't be pathetic

[FerrariF60]

1 more lap and Leclerc would have got him

yeah, that was a good fight to watch....and i enjoyed

[tifosi1993]

BALLERINA is in.....

What has Vettel done today for you to bash him!? really...this is just childish.

[KimiBot]

That was close. Well done Charles

Yeah, nice work

[KimiBot]

And Ferrari has track record now

[f412]

to think that mercedez almost had fastest lap with blistered old tyres... and ferrarri barely managed it on brand new softs

[FerrariF60]

What has Vettel done today for you to bash him!? really...this is just childish.

nothing really.....i guess i really should be bashing Ferrari by giving it's drivers such below par cars.....

[PURE PASSION]

Those Mercs have SO much pace !!!!!
With destroyed hards and made just 0,024 s slower FL then Vet on brand new reds!!!!!:-E

[FerrariF60]

to think that mercedez almost had fastest lap with blistered old tyres... and ferrarri barely managed it on brand new softs

what was the difference between lewis's and seb's fastest lap times

[f412]

dont confuse bottas's pace with mercz real pace... i guess merc had him slow down just to put on a show...that ferrarri almost had them..

[KimiBot]

Binotto is taking our team in right direction, you will see, today`s race looks like a disaster, but it is not.

[nani_s23]

And Ferrari has track record now

Ham pulled it with old set of Hard tyres against vettel new set of softs.
Which shows mercs absolute pace.

[jgonzalesm6]

What a boring race.

The banter on here was more exciting than the race.:-D

[f412]

couple of tenths... lewis was some where in 1.32s so is seb

[nani_s23]

what was the difference between lewis's and seb's fastest lap times


I think 0.03’s

[FerrariF60]

Those Mercs have SO much pace !!!!!
With destroyed hards and made just 0,024 s slower FL then Vet on brand new reds!!!!!:-E

wow, that tells you right there how good that merc is wiht old tires crappy hard tires near the end and Seb with brand new soft tires just barely making fastest lap....WOW, JUST WOW!!!!

[tifosi1993]

to think that mercedez almost had fastest lap with blistered old tyres... and ferrarri barely managed it on brand new softs

Well you also need a class driver behind the wheel. Just look at the other Finnish guy driving the 2nd Mercedes, an utterly dominant car and only finished less than a seconds ahead Charles.

[nani_s23]

Vettel asking his race engineer on the team radio (after his pit stop):

"Can you tell me how the tyres you removed from the car are? In what state were they?"

Vettel looks into everything

[FerrariF60]

Binotto is taking our team in right direction, you will see, today`s race looks like a disaster, but it is not.

SARCASM i see from your end????

[KimiBot]

Well you also need a class driver behind the wheel. Just look at the other Finnish guy driving the 2nd Mercedes, an utterly dominant car and only finished less than a seconds ahead Charles.

Yes, that is a really good sign, because this track was not good for us, we are not so much behind anymore, just some tiny thing and we are ahead, and our team are working for that to happen.

[nani_s23]

Well you also need a class driver behind the wheel. Just look at the other Finnish guy driving the 2nd Mercedes, an utterly dominant car and only finished less than a seconds ahead Charles.

Yeah ofcourse.
Keep DR in that bottas place. He will give absolute rampage to ham.
If it’s max, then ham would be crying for sure

[tifosi1993]

dont confuse bottas's pace with mercz real pace... i guess merc had him slow down just to put on a show...that ferrarri almost had them..

Bottas is quite slow tbh, a 2nd tier driver...driving a top car.

[darkchild]

Leclerc getting stronger. That blunder by pit wall cost him serious pts and probably better score vs Vettel (as has Baku), but he is strong. Very strong.

[nani_s23]

I think we can be happy with the end result. Except vettel at P5.
Ferrari improved not compared to mercs. But compared to Barcelona

[KimiBot]

Vettel asking his race engineer on the team radio (after his pit stop):

"Can you tell me how the tyres you removed from the car are? In what state were they?"

Vettel looks into everything

That is why I like him, he is fully committed. Also like Charles, so young, and his comments are like from old driver and he will do everything to win.
We have a good team now, just one small push forward and that is the end of Mercs dominance.

[nani_s23]

Leclerc getting stronger. That blunder by pit wall cost him serious pts and probably better score vs Vettel (as has Baku), but he is strong. Very strong.

He too made mistakes come Q3.
Ferrari for this race made a special team for him in how to approach q3 prep.

[KimiBot]

Leclerc getting stronger. That blunder by pit wall cost him serious pts and probably better score vs Vettel (as has Baku), but he is strong. Very strong.

Yeah, absolutely.

[tifosi1993]

Yeah ofcourse.
Keep DR in that bottas place. He will give absolute rampage to ham.
If it’s max, then ham would be crying for sure

I don't think Ham would be crying, personally I rate quite a bit high. But yeah...with Max, it would've been a quite close, I'd say neck-neck.

[nani_s23]

That is why I like him, he is fully committed. Also like Charles, so young, and his comments are like from old driver and he will do everything to win.
We have a good team now, just one small push forward and that is the end of Mercs dominance.


Yup... that’s wt I see too..!! Atleast this season they need have a direction to end merc dominance next year.
I believe in our drivers & Mattia.
We have two strong drivers, now we need to have a strong car.
Either of them will give Ham nightmares next season.

[nani_s23]

I don't think Ham would be crying, personally I rate quite a bit high. But yeah...with Max, it would've been a quite close, I'd say neck-neck.


DR skills are race pace, Max is robust. Ham didn’t have that strong opponent with a strong equal car from 2014 to till date.
Else we would have seen ham mistakes or cracking under pressure.

To give an example bottas did get straight poles & beat ham.
Another one Rosberg did clinch title from ham 2016.
Ham is not a legend, he’s just strong driver in the current driver.

Keep politics & behaviour aside. Alonso would have given a good pain to ham with above avg car for sure.
I’m not saying this out of fanism, just as a F1 fan.

[KimiBot]

Yup... that’s wt I see too..!! Atleast this season they need have a direction to end merc dominance next year.
I believe in our drivers & Mattia.
We have two strong drivers, now we need to have a strong car.
Either of them will give Ham nightmares next season.

Dude, I did not like Binotto at all, but now I have chanced my mind, I can see what he is doing, he did change everything in Ferrari hierarchic and it takes some time to get results, just because they have been working so long wrong.

[jgonzalesm6]

Loved the end race flyover.

Dassault Falcon flanked by 2 Rafale's.

[tifosi1993]

DR skills are race pace, Max is robust. Ham didn’t have that strong opponent with a strong equal car.
Else we would have seen ham mistakes or cracking under pressure

Ham had Alonso as his team mate, someone far far stronger than Webber or Kimi or Hulkenberg etc etc, and he handled him quite well.

Dani Ric is quite good, but last year Max made him look quite ordinary. Ham is going to win his 6th title this year and will definitely beat Schumacher's record before he retires.

It's bit strange to under-rate a driver of Hamilton's caliber. :-)

[WS6TransAm01]

Glad that’s over. Will be nice when the season ends.

[KimiBot]

Glad that’s over. Will be nice when the season ends.

I know what you mean, but there is a light end of the tunnel, Binotto did change everything that what you have been talking about, cultural thing.
I am sure we will see good progress all ready in this season.

[Kingdom Hearts]

So Vettel couldn't beat Verstappen, why?.

[nani_s23]

Ham had Alonso as his team mate, someone far far stronger than Webber or Kimi or Hulkenberg etc etc, and he handled him quite well.

Dani Ric is quite good, but last year Max made him look quite ordinary. Ham is going to win his 6th title this year and will definitely beat Schumacher's record before he retires.

It's bit strange to under-rate a driver of Hamilton's caliber. :-)

I’m not under-rating his caliber. He’s definitely strong driver but not at the level of Schumi, senna, Mika, Alonso.
These champions did over come their competitors with some hard racing & with strong opponent cars.

To me Ham never had that kind of competition. 2014-2019.
Vettel the same 2010-2013, but atleast Alonso gave him hard time.
But ham having it easy doesn’t show legendary status

[Ree]

I know what you mean, but there is a light end of the tunnel, Binotto did change everything that what you have been talking about, cultural thing.
I am sure we will see good progress all ready in this season.

I hope so.... I feel that the team has been lacking in recent years when it comes to in-season development so, thinking long-term, some progress there would be fantastic. Right now, although some wins would be better, if the team can close the gap a bit before the end of the season I'll take it :)

[Noquarter]

For me, Max is the driver of the day. A car with a weak engine kept the pace of Ferrari. And Gasly did not even score points.

[bonzo]

I hope so.... I feel that the team has been lacking in recent years when it comes to in-season development so, thinking long-term, some progress there would be fantastic. Right now, although some wins would be better, if the team can close the gap a bit before the end of the season I'll take it :)

Will not happen with an Italian boss. 12 years is the proof.

[Hornet]

Nothing to complain about today's race result.

I'm curious of Bottas had some issues towards the end, Lec could have gotten him if we had a couple more laps.
But otherwise Merc is again in a different league.

ps: Wish we could stop with the name calling against our own drivers. Like it or not, they are driving for Ferrari and we are here to support the entire team.

[Ree]

Will not happen with an Italian boss. 12 years is the proof.

What is life without hope?:-D

[evo_spook]

Nothing to complain about today's race result.

I'm curious of Bottas had some issues towards the end, Lec could have gotten him if we had a couple more laps.
But otherwise Merc is again in a different league.

ps: Wish we could stop with the name calling against our own drivers. Like it or not, they are driving for Ferrari and we are here to support the entire team.

I think Lec could have gone faster before that as supposed on radio, he was asked if he could have gone faster, and he said yes but didn’t want to take life out of the tyres... if only started earlier

Bottas supposed had trouble get tyres back up to heat after the vsc but I’m sure he was already going slower before that?

[nani_s23]

For me, Max is the driver of the day. A car with a weak engine kept the pace of Ferrari. And Gasly did not even score points.

His engine settings got sorted out...!! If it’s that much weak, vettel would have got him.
I think except mercs & Ham, everyone suffered on Hard tyres getting them in working window.

[WS6TransAm01]

I know what you mean, but there is a light end of the tunnel, Binotto did change everything that what you have been talking about, cultural thing.
I am sure we will see good progress all ready in this season.

I will openly admit that I haven’t been paying that much attention once the championship was over (after the 3rd race) but I don’t think I see a cultural change.


Will not happen with an Italian boss. 12 years is the proof.

Exactly.

[wisepie]

Nothing to complain about today's race result.

I'm curious of Bottas had some issues towards the end, Lec could have gotten him if we had a couple more laps.
But otherwise Merc is again in a different league.

ps: Wish we could stop with the name calling against our own drivers. Like it or not, they are driving for Ferrari and we are here to support the entire team.

Nothing to really complain about given the starting positions, and I agree with you Hornet on the name-calling and the reason we're on this site, to support our team and drivers. But sometimes we need somewhere to let off steam when something is bugging us, and with F1 in its current state and Merc's domination, there's plenty of reason for that! Good drives from Charles and Seb today, but Merc are indeed on another planet called Formula Hamilton.:roll

[Ferrari312T4]

A boring race on a boring circuit and boring result.

[Rob]

A boring race on a boring circuit and boring result.

its just F1 cars. F2 and F3 were good close races also when sportscars race there ts good racing.

[JPZ]

I’m not under-rating his caliber. He’s definitely strong driver but not at the level of Schumi, senna, Mika, Alonso.
These champions did over come their competitors with some hard racing & with strong opponent cars.

To me Ham never had that kind of competition. 2014-2019.
Vettel the same 2010-2013, but atleast Alonso gave him hard time.
But ham having it easy doesn’t show legendary status

Agreed 100%

[Rob]

now watching the race. OH WOW how terrible. Cannt see how the commentry teams and media still find it easy to get excited about this anymore.

And how they cannt see this Merc show is killing the sport, sorry show.

15 laps left just turned off watch Indy Car.

[JPZ]

I know what you mean, but there is a light end of the tunnel, Binotto did change everything that what you have been talking about, cultural thing.
I am sure we will see good progress all ready in this season.

What is he changing?

I know they are trying to get new personal and strategist.

[Greig]

I know what you mean, but there is a light end of the tunnel, Binotto did change everything that what you have been talking about, cultural thing.
I am sure we will see good progress all ready in this season.

Yeah looks like he is making changes so hopefully they work, I guess with the team being a bit of a shambles then it might take a few months, years for it all to come into place so we will maybe need to be patient. Todt arrived to us when we were a shambles also and it took him years to get us winning titles but there was clear progress being shown so hopefully we can see the same with Binotto.

[WS6TransAm01]

Yeah looks like he is making changes so hopefully they work, I guess with the team being a bit of a shambles then it might take a few months, years for it all to come into place so we will maybe need to be patient. Todt arrived to us when we were a shambles also and it took him years to get us winning titles but there was clear progress being shown so hopefully we can see the same with Binotto.

What progress are you seeing, Greig?

Finishing 19 seconds off the lead is “progress?”

[FerrariF60]

What progress are you seeing, Greig?

Finishing 19 seconds off the lead is “progress?”

long term progress maybe.....NOT overnight

[Rob]

Signs of progress

Le Castellet, 23 June 2019 – Scuderia Ferrari comes away from the French Grand Prix with a third place courtesy of Charles Leclerc, the Monegasque driver finishing right behind Valtteri Bottas and a fifth place from Sebastian Vettel, who thus finished two places higher than he started, following a difficult qualifying on Saturday. The German also set the fastest race lap, which is a new lap record.

Start. When the five red lights went out, Charles went wheel to wheel with Max Verstappen, getting the better of the Dutchman before closing in on Hamilton and Bottas. Sebastian hung on to seventh place, keeping out of trouble which is often a factor in the middle of the pack.

Overtaking. In the opening laps, Leclerc managed to pull away from Verstappen, while a bit further back, Vettel thrilled the French crowd with a handful of spectacular passing moves. He stuck to the McLaren of Lando Norris, getting by on lap 5. At this point he set his sights on the other orange car, that of Carlos Sainz. The German closed up to him on lap 6 and passed him to go fifth on the following lap.

Pitstop. Both men started on the Medium tyres and Charles was the first to stop on lap 21, taking on the Hard tyres, rejoining fourth behind Vettel. The German came in a few laps later, the aim was for him to have fresher rubber at the end of the race so that he could profit from any drop off in performance from the Dutchman rival. Sebastian rejoined fifth on lap 26, just over six seconds behind Verstappen.

Tyre management. At this point, for both drivers the main task became tyre management, as there was a risk of degradation because of the high track temperature. Charles made a very good job of this so that, towards the end, he was able to close right up on Bottas, sitting on his tail for the final lap and tried to get alongside him a couple of times, although a pass was never really on the cards.

Fastest lap. Sebastian also managed his tyres well, but he couldn’t really close the gap to Verstappen. So on lap 51, the team brought him in for a set of Soft tyres and he went off in pursuit of the race fastest lap. The German took the chequered flag in fifth place having achieved that goal with a time of 1’32”740, which was also a new lap record. This was Charles’ third F1 podium following on from those in Bahrain and Canada. The World Championship resumes in only a few days with next Sunday’s Austrian GP at the Spielberg circuit.

Charles Leclerc #16
quote “Overall, this weekend was pretty positive. I’m pleased I was able to fight for second place right at the end, even if I never had a real chance to attack Valtteri. I am satisfied because we managed to maximise the potential of the car.
It was about time, because after a few so-so weekends, everything went smoothly right from the start of free practice and then in qualifying and the race, where our strategy was perfect both in terms of the timing of the pit stop and our tyre management in the second part of the race.
I believe hard work always pays off and I feel we proved that this weekend. Now we go straight to Austria where I hope we can maintain this same good form.”

Sebastian Vettel #5
“I had a pretty lonely race, apart from a bit of confusion at the start, given that the timing of the lights going out caught us a bit by surprise. It was fun fighting with the McLarens, first Norris then Carlos. The first stint went pretty well and that meant I could close the gap to Charles and Max. Then in the second one, I had a few more balance problems and I didn’t feel totally comfortable with the car.
I think today’s fifth place was the most we could have done, given that Charles, Max and me were all running at pretty much the same pace. At least getting the fastest race lap means I get an extra point.
We still need to understand why Friday was so complicated with some of the parts we brought here not working as we had hoped. Our car is not yet strong enough and it’s down to us to improve. We still don’t have the pace to beat Mercedes, but I know that everyone at Maranello is working with so much positive pressure – and passion.”

Mattia Binotto Team Principal
“It was rather a straightforward race, the end result being that Charles maintained his start position all the way to the end. Sebastian managed to shake off the McLarens as we had hoped and then ran a strong race, keeping a consistent pace, on a par with those ahead of him. When Verstappen pitted, we kept Seb out for a few more laps, given that the tyres were difficult to manage and were likely to suffer with significant degradation in the closing stages, as we saw on the Mercedes. Therefore every extra lap we stayed out would mean having fresher tyres towards the end and that could have been important in terms of giving us a chance to beat Max.
In terms of performance, we are not yet where we want to be. We knew this circuit would be tough for us and to finish with Charles right behind Bottas is encouraging.
The developments we have introduced since the Spanish GP have allowed us to close the gap and we have shown that we are on the right path. Some of these updates have proved to be very useful, others unfortunately less so, but we know that we have potential to improve significantly. At this point, we are confident, aware that there is still a lot to do, but that we have the ability to develop the car and to be competitive on all tracks.”

Le Castellet, 23 June 2019 – Scuderia Ferrari comes away from the French Grand Prix with a third place courtesy of Charles Leclerc, the Monegasque driver finishing right behind Valtteri Bottas and a fifth place from Sebastian Vettel, who thus finished two places higher than he started, following a difficult qualifying on Saturday. The German also set the fastest race lap, which is a new lap record.

Start. When the five red lights went out, Charles went wheel to wheel with Max Verstappen, getting the better of the Dutchman before closing in on Hamilton and Bottas. Sebastian hung on to seventh place, keeping out of trouble which is often a factor in the middle of the pack.

Overtaking. In the opening laps, Leclerc managed to pull away from Verstappen, while a bit further back, Vettel thrilled the French crowd with a handful of spectacular passing moves. He stuck to the McLaren of Lando Norris, getting by on lap 5. At this point he set his sights on the other orange car, that of Carlos Sainz. The German closed up to him on lap 6 and passed him to go fifth on the following lap.

Pitstop. Both men started on the Medium tyres and Charles was the first to stop on lap 21, taking on the Hard tyres, rejoining fourth behind Vettel. The German came in a few laps later, the aim was for him to have fresher rubber at the end of the race so that he could profit from any drop off in performance from the Dutchman rival. Sebastian rejoined fifth on lap 26, just over six seconds behind Verstappen.

Tyre management. At this point, for both drivers the main task became tyre management, as there was a risk of degradation because of the high track temperature. Charles made a very good job of this so that, towards the end, he was able to close right up on Bottas, sitting on his tail for the final lap and tried to get alongside him a couple of times, although a pass was never really on the cards.

Fastest lap. Sebastian also managed his tyres well, but he couldn’t really close the gap to Verstappen. So on lap 51, the team brought him in for a set of Soft tyres and he went off in pursuit of the race fastest lap. The German took the chequered flag in fifth place having achieved that goal with a time of 1’32”740, which was also a new lap record. This was Charles’ third F1 podium following on from those in Bahrain and Canada. The World Championship resumes in only a few days with next Sunday’s Austrian GP at the Spielberg circuit.


Charles Leclerc #16
quote “Overall, this weekend was pretty positive. I’m pleased I was able to fight for second place right at the end, even if I never had a real chance to attack Valtteri. I am satisfied because we managed to maximise the potential of the car.
It was about time, because after a few so-so weekends, everything went smoothly right from the start of free practice and then in qualifying and the race, where our strategy was perfect both in terms of the timing of the pit stop and our tyre management in the second part of the race.
I believe hard work always pays off and I feel we proved that this weekend. Now we go straight to Austria where I hope we can maintain this same good form.” quote

Sebastian Vettel #5
quote “I had a pretty lonely race, apart from a bit of confusion at the start, given that the timing of the lights going out caught us a bit by surprise. It was fun fighting with the McLarens, first Norris then Carlos. The first stint went pretty well and that meant I could close the gap to Charles and Max. Then in the second one, I had a few more balance problems and I didn’t feel totally comfortable with the car.
I think today’s fifth place was the most we could have done, given that Charles, Max and me were all running at pretty much the same pace. At least getting the fastest race lap means I get an extra point.
We still need to understand why Friday was so complicated with some of the parts we brought here not working as we had hoped. Our car is not yet strong enough and it’s down to us to improve. We still don’t have the pace to beat Mercedes, but I know that everyone at Maranello is working with so much positive pressure – and passion.” quote

Mattia Binotto Team Principal
quote It was rather a straightforward race, the end result being that Charles maintained his start position all the way to the end. Sebastian managed to shake off the McLarens as we had hoped and then ran a strong race, keeping a consistent pace, on a par with those ahead of him. When Verstappen pitted, we kept Seb out for a few more laps, given that the tyres were difficult to manage and were likely to suffer with significant degradation in the closing stages, as we saw on the Mercedes. Therefore every extra lap we stayed out would mean having fresher tyres towards the end and that could have been important in terms of giving us a chance to beat Max.
In terms of performance, we are not yet where we want to be. We knew this circuit would be tough for us and to finish with Charles right behind Bottas is encouraging.
The developments we have introduced since the Spanish GP have allowed us to close the gap and we have shown that we are on the right path. Some of these updates have proved to be very useful, others unfortunately less so, but we know that we have potential to improve significantly. At this point, we are confident, aware that there is still a lot to do, but that we have the ability to develop the car and to be competitive on all tracks.

[PURE PASSION]

Ι really really try to find something positive for the future, BUT right now its quite difficult!!!!

�� | Sebastian Vettel Post Race: The bigger objective was to come here and close the gap but we had to learn that our parts weren't working the way we expected them to.

#FrenchGP ���� #Seb5 #F1 https://t.co/lDuXQEsaoC

We look like we cant find the right path to cure our problems,and to this the time window is getting smaller and smaller for next years car also.!!!

[F430]

Will not happen with an Italian boss. 12 years is the proof.

better than a Bulgarian boss

[paolo lalli]

F1 in General is not in a healthy state it's a non event big time even mercedes are getting frustrated with no one to challenge them .

[Brembo]

Bottas constantly challenging Lewis quali. & race is great for fans, Max challenging every other driver in a R Bull is also great to watch. Meanwhile Charles to the podium !!!!!

[Greig]

What progress are you seeing, Greig?

Finishing 19 seconds off the lead is “progress?”

Read my post again.....

[evo_spook]

Ferrari can win next week if they don't screw it up. The tracks characteristics will suit the car

If they do, that is 3 races they could potentially have won...

[Brembo]

A pole for Seb or Charles should do it !!! And please ! If it's Charles on pole; let him race his heart out.

[Greig]

Danny Ric got 2 x 5 sec penalties, so finished 11th lol

[nuni]

Ι really really try to find something positive for the future, BUT right now its quite difficult!!!!

�� | Sebastian Vettel Post Race: The bigger objective was to come here and close the gap but we had to learn that our parts weren't working the way we expected them to.

#FrenchGP ���� #Seb5 #F1 https://t.co/lDuXQEsaoC

We look like we cant find the right path to cure our problems,and to this the time window is getting smaller and smaller for next years car also.!!!

Vettel was quite clear. said it all.

It's disappointing the way he team talks about the upgrades. Takes 1/3 of the championship to bring a front wing and floor (that didn't worked). Mercedes and RB had new front wings by the 2nd and 3rd race.
Medium teams like Mclaren, ex-Force India, bring more upgrades than Ferrari. Even if we started the season with the fastest rate, by now we would have been behind.
They can't even copy, is ridiculous. the cut on the front wing end plate, took them 7 races to copy. the 'ears' over the f duct waiting... the front suspension extensions nowhere to be seen (1 year after appearing), the complex mirrors invented where adopted by all the teams except Ferrari. Where is the money from the team with the 2nd biggest budget going that they can even copy aero innovations???

[jgonzalesm6]

McLaren is now ahead of Renault in the constructor points...now 4th.

Still way behind RedBull who is still 3rd.

[paolo lalli]

Ferrari is in world of pain at the moment.How long this will last is the big question.As Ferrari supporters we can only gage our improvements if any purely on a race to race basis.Mr BINOTTO has been very clear with his summation of the car it has a problem and we are moving forward in solving it's issues.ferrari would be ecstatic if it could the car between 1 and 2 tenths difference between Merc and us this then will show progress .I suspect the Ferrari will be a lot stronger in Austria.

[Bikus]

McLaren is now ahead of Renault in the constructor points...now 4th.

Papayas are 4th since Baku .

:-)

[bonzo]

Yeah looks like he is making changes so hopefully they work, I guess with the team being a bit of a shambles then it might take a few months, years for it all to come into place so we will maybe need to be patient. Todt arrived to us when we were a shambles also and it took him years to get us winning titles but there was clear progress being shown so hopefully we can see the same with Binotto.

No my friend, not the same - Todt was not an Italian. Italians cannot control Italians efficiently, cannot impose discipline on them, cannot force them into working hard and over hours, cannot take a decision when presented with an alternative, but rather would try to keep both parties happy.

[bonzo]

Ferrari can win next week if they don't screw it up. The tracks characteristics will suit the car

If they do, that is 3 races they could potentially have won...

Possible but we need both Mercs DNF.

[Ferrarichamp]

Possible but we need both Mercs DNF.

or a penalty for both Mercs...
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[jragona]

or a penalty for both Mercs...
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FIA would never allow it! :-!

[alfaromeo]

Binotto is not Italian

[Greig]

No my friend, not the same - Todt was not an Italian. Italians cannot control Italians efficiently, cannot impose discipline on them, cannot force them into working hard and over hours, cannot take a decision when presented with an alternative, but rather would try to keep both parties happy.

Binotto was born in Switzerland, so we will be ok then to avoid such stereotypes.....

[wisepie]

Binotto was born in Switzerland, so we will be ok then to avoid such stereotypes.....

The Swiss tend to be more grounded and less emotional from what I've seen, so let's pray that we're on the right track, trouble is that by the time it gets sorted, we'll be into the new 2021 regs!:roll

[WS6TransAm01]

The Swiss tend to be more grounded and less emotional from what I've seen, so let's pray that we're on the right track, trouble is that by the time it gets sorted, we'll be into the new 2021 regs!:roll

It won't be sorted by 2021. With the new regulations Ferrari will be 3rd if not fourth in 2021. I do not see this ship righting itself any time soon. No one has the testicular fortitude to do what needs to be done.

[JPZ]

The Swiss tend to be more grounded and less emotional from what I've seen, so let's pray that we're on the right track, trouble is that by the time it gets sorted, we'll be into the new 2021 regs!:roll

He's an Italian Swiss though?

And hopefully the new regulations can switch things up a bit.

[SilverSpeed]

https://streamable.com/4f1jj

:rotfl

[Greig]

Lando seems like a decent guy, and not too bad a driver either :-)

[nani_s23]

Lando seems like a decent guy, and not too bad a driver either :-)

If McLaren can get their act with car, norris would be a good force to reckon.
Else I see RB poaching him.

[paolo lalli]

Does any body know if binotto can yoddle like a true Swiss person.

[Stormy]

You can also catch Norris on Twitch streaming, he races in all kinds of racing games.

[Greig]

You can also catch Norris on Twitch streaming, he races in all kinds of racing games.

Yeah hopefully I can race him one day on iRacing :-D

[Brembo]

Does any body know if binotto can yoddle like a true Swiss person.

Good question ! But even if he can ; it won't help; Pavarotti never yoddled a song.:rotfl

[paolo lalli]

That would represent a disaster for f1 and liberty media they would not get back the money they paid Bernie baby no chance with out a Ferrari winning races f1 is a basket case.Tv audiences are down viewer interest has waned.Crowd numbers are dropping and it's all because of a boring f1 hybrid sterile period.Tyres Tyres Tyres that's all the talk gone refuelling gone exiting pit stops gone exiting racing gone exiting heart pumping strategies gone good old formula 1.Let mercedes have this hollow event if they raced back in the day they would be smashed.If the racing circuits could talk they would say what the he'll has happened to f1 could some team exited me once again.

[JPZ]

That would represent a disaster for f1 and liberty media they would not get back the money they paid Bernie baby no chance with out a Ferrari winning races f1 is a basket case.Tv audiences are down viewer interest has waned.Crowd numbers are dropping and it's all because of a boring f1 hybrid sterile period.Tyres Tyres Tyres that's all the talk gone refuelling gone exiting pit stops gone exiting racing gone exiting heart pumping strategies gone good old formula 1.Let mercedes have this hollow event if they raced back in the day they would be smashed.If the racing circuits could talk they would say what the he'll has happened to f1 could some team exited me once again.

Yes, and as the article posted here mentioned, F1 viewership is down 74 % compared to 2013. These are crisis levels.

If major sponsors start leaving, the sport is finished.

[Greig]

Yes, and as the article posted here mentioned, F1 viewership is down 74 % compared to 2013. These are crisis levels.

If major sponsors start leaving, the sport is finished.

That article was for one channel in the UK, which went from showing live races to just highlights, off course viewers will drop as most fans will want to watch live. So it's really not a true picture.

[JPZ]

That article was for one channel in the UK, which went from showing live races to just highlights, off course viewers will drop as most fans will want to watch live. So it's really not a true picture.

Yes, though viewers have been going down since 2008. The figures include digital viewing.

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[vcs316]

F1 Reveals That Just 14% Of Its Viewers Are Under 25

Link: https://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2019/01/13/f1-reveals-that-just-14-of-its-viewers-are-under-25/#85aca186d5c1

[JPZ]

F1 Reveals That Just 14% Of Its Viewers Are Under 25

Link: https://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2019/01/13/f1-reveals-that-just-14-of-its-viewers-are-under-25/#85aca186d5c1

And it says the 'average viewer age is 40'. Basically, all the old fans who are still hanging onto the sport.

Without a younger audience, it's also basically a dying sport.

As some have mentioned before, besides Mercedes dominance, Hamilton outside of the UK, is simply not a popular or well-liked champion. Mercedes has a relatively small fanbase as well and their team and management come across as arrogant and not likeable.

In pro-wrestling they say a champion is as good as his draw, the amount of viewers he can attract, in that sense, Hamilton is a weak champion. And that's exuding the lack of opposition he's been up against compared to Senna, Prost, Schumacher etc.

And in Monza 2018, Mercedes over the radio told their drivers to finish in formation to demoralise not only Ferrari, but all the fans as well as it was Ferrari home territory. This was when I lost all respect for them. Talk about antagonising the fan base!

[wisepie]

And it says the 'average viewer age is 40'. Basically, all the old fans who are still hanging onto the sport.

Without a younger audience, it's also basically a dying sport.

As some have mentioned before, besides Mercedes dominance, Hamilton outside of the UK, is simply not a popular or well-liked champion. Mercedes has a relatively small fanbase as well and their team and management come across as arrogant and not likeable.

In pro-wrestling they say a champion is as good as his draw, the amount of viewers he can attract, in that sense, Hamilton is a weak champion. And that's exuding the lack of opposition he's been up against compared to Senna, Prost, Schumacher etc.

And in Monza 2018, Mercedes over the radio told their drivers to finish in formation to demoralise not only Ferrari, but all the fans as well as it was Ferrari home territory. This was when I lost all respect for them. Talk about antagonising the fan base!

Just referring to your last paragraph, I was not happy with Seb when he won at Silverstone last year and on the cooling down lap made a similar remark about winning on Mercedes and Hamilton's home turf, so no surprise that Merc wanted to rub it in at Monza. Both were stupid remarks and Seb's came back to bite him.

[JPZ]

Just referring to your last paragraph, I was not happy with Seb when he won at Silverstone last year and on the cooling down lap made a similar remark about winning on Mercedes and Hamilton's home turf, so no surprise that Merc wanted to rub it in at Monza. Both were stupid remarks and Seb's came back to bite him.

The difference is Vettel made a comment on the radio, while Mercedes, the team, ordered their drivers to finish in formation in an attempt to deliberately demoralise the team and fans.

I guess it worked or back-fired as the crowds chanted buffone, clown, when Hamilton was on the podium.

[Brembo]

[QUOTE=JPZ;1011667]And it says the 'average viewer age is 40'. Basically, all the old fans who are still hanging onto the sport.

Without a younger audience, it's also basically a dying sport.

As some have mentioned before, besides Mercedes dominance, Hamilton outside of the UK, is simply not a popular or well-liked champion. Mercedes has a relatively small fanbase as well and their team and management come across as arrogant and not likeable.

In pro-wrestling they say a champion is as good as his draw, the amount of viewers he can attract, in that sense, Hamilton is a weak champion. And that's exuding the lack of opposition he's been up against compared to Senna, Prost, Schumacher etc.

What drivers did Schumy, Prost and Ayrton go up against that had 4DWC ? As far as fans watching F-1; I would think there is still a strong showing if not just to watch and hope Lewis and Merc get beat. Every team has a fan base and none of those fans want Lewis to win . The races are great.