Belgium GP: Free Practice & Qualifying

[nani_s23]

Hope for a good weekend

[Ferrarichamp]

Latifi in the Williams instead of Russell? interesting.

[Cevertmyhero]

Ham with a problem. The lucky devil never gets problems in races, only practice

[Ferrarichamp]

only FP1 but Max already fastest. an early omen?

[racingbradley]

Ham with a problem. The lucky devil never gets problems in races, only practice

Promising;-)

[nani_s23]

only FP1 but Max already fastest. an early omen?

Ferrari with low power modes & trying different configs.

[tifosi1993]

Leclerc 30.5 in Sector 1, Vettel 45.1 in Sector 2 and 28.4 in Sector 3.

Vettel 30.9 in Sector 1, Leclerc 45.3 in Sector 2 and 28.8 in Sector 3.

[aroutis]

https://www.pitpass.com/65505/Vettel-sets-opening-pace-in-Belgium
Vettel sets opening pace in Belgium ahead of Leclerc, Verstappen, Albon, Bottas, Hamilton, Stroll, Ricciardo, Perez and Sainz.

[Rishu]

Leclerc lightning up the time screens

[tifosi1993]

Leclerc vs Vettel (soft tyre)

Sector 1: 30.204 vs 30.586
Sector 2: 45.179 vs 45.142
Sector 3: 28.740 vs 29.025(not personal best)

[tifosi1993]

Leclerc's 2nd soft tyre lap:

30.788
46.101
28.941

1:45.830, 1.6 sec drop off on second lap

[DJTaurus]

Why we are so fast ??? LOL

[tifosi1993]

Best sectors (Ferrari vs Merc)

Sector 1:
Leclerc 30.204
Vettel 30.586
Bottas 31.064
Hamilton 31.080

Sector 2:
Hamilton 44.787
Bottas 44.831
Vettel 45.142
Leclerc 45.179

Sector 3:
Leclerc 28.740
Vettel 28.914
Bottas 28.924
Hamilton 28.957

[458 Italia]

I still really hate what they did to the iconic bus stop chicane.

[stefa]

I still really hate what they did to the iconic bus stop chicane.

I still really hate what they have done to whole F1 and around it!!!!

[tifosi1993]

Vettel's struggling on the long run, big time drop off.

[PURE PASSION]

Any feedback about race pace ??!!

[458 Italia]

I still really hate what they have done to whole F1 and around it!!!!

:clap:thumb

[Aziz]

Vettel's struggling on the long run, big time drop off.

With this kind of race pace, no matter of how good the quali would be , there is no way they can get a win.

[tifosi1993]

Long run pace not looking that good, Both Merc lapping faster than us.

p.s: All Mercedes powered cars are on their spec-3 engine and Ferrari definitely running a much older spec-2. So it may explain Mercedes's long run pace advantage

[tifosi1993]

With this kind of race pace, no matter of how good the quali would be , there is no way they can get a win.

Well Vettel is definitely struggling, on softs started on high 1m50's but 8 laps later he was lapping between high 1m52 to low 1m53

Leclerc only did 5 laps on softs, started on low 1m51 but his lap before the tyre change was mid 1m50.

Vettel on medium, started on high 1m50 but 5 laps later lapping between high 1m51-low 1m51

Leclerc on medium was lapping consistently between low 1m50-high 1m50

[Christopher]

That's another new spec Merc engine gone

[PURE PASSION]

Well Vettel is definitely struggling, on softs started on high 1m50's but 8 laps later he was lapping between high 1m52 to low 1m53

Leclerc only did 5 laps on softs, started on low 1m51 but his lap before the tyre change was mid 1m50.

Vettel on medium, started on high 1m50 but 5 laps later lapping between high 1m51-low 1m51

Leclerc on medium was lapping consistently between low 1m50-high 1m50

And the Mercs ???

[denskits]

This is guaranteed an intra team battle for the pole!


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[wisepie]

Pole will only ever work for Ferrari when we have the race pace to back it up, it's no good if the tyres are going off so quickly even if we managed to achieve a front-row start. Cooler temperatures for Sunday probably won't help either, but to see Charles and Seb quickest in both FP sessions is encouraging, if not to be taken too seriously. I wish I could feel more optimistic.:roll

[nani_s23]

Quali looks front row lock out for ferrari.
But in race pace, it’s 3rd best car. Don’t think ferrari can keep that front row position during the race or are they conservative with the Engine... time will tell.

[tifosi1993]

And the Mercs ???

Here is the complete FP2 long run data

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDObRf4W4AI4V4j?format=png&name=900x900

As we can see, Merc was faster. But they are running their updated spec-3, so it may explain the advantage.

[SilverSpeed]

Seems that Ferrari can produce the fastest lap right out of the box and then they fall back alot!

Taxi's are slower on their first fast lap, but then the next 3 laps they are faster then us so racepace and tyre management is in their corner sadly.

Hope we can fix this so we don't destroy our tyres and after 5 laps are following instead of leading the race.

[The Architect]

I feel a sense of déjà vu. I look forward to tomorrow when they'll be fastest in P3, with team proceeding to forget to connect the turbo on one car and the fuel system on the other again. In all seriousness though, the lack of cornering speed is still a very significant concern. Whatever suspension changes have been made aren't being reflected in the lap times. It will cost them the race.

[PURE PASSION]

Why in have the feeling that we stop working in this year car races before??!! I now that next year regulations are almost the same as this year ,BUT we will have a completely different concept because this years was the wrong one. So we realy dont learn a lot actually developing the SF90 and put all resources for the new concept . I say all this because I cant believe that we are actually developing this year's car and we see tiny developments and staying still performance wise!!!!!!!

[FerrariF60]

Why in have the feeling that we stop working in this year car races before??!! I now that next year regulations are almost the same as this year ,BUT we will have a completely different concept because this years was the wrong one. So we realy dont learn a lot actually developing the SF90 and put all resources for the new concept . I say all this because I cant believe that we are actually developing this year's car and we see tiny developments and staying still performance wise!!!!!!!

i'm wiht you on this one and have to agree......i feel that this year is a lost cause, and no matter how hard the team is trying to improve, we see very little rewards ON TRACK....(maybe it's the whole concept of the chassis being VERY efficient and is really hard to work around it and ADD more usable downforce, who knows i'm NOT and aerodynamicist).......hopefully in the backround they are working flat out to produce something along the lines of the Merc and Ref fools solution, a chassis that generates a LOT more downforce, even if we will lose a bit of straight line speed....we have a really STORNG engine so it should be NO problem in that area

what is going to be a problem is that, both merc and red fulls will have a full year under their belt working with a chassis thta has more downforce to begin with compared to US that will be starting fresh.....but time will tell

[paolo lalli]

Secretly Ferrari have already started on next year's car.Its on a no need to talk basis.The sf90 if only it could handle curves and bends better ever so slightly Ferrari would challenge at all circuits. We loose temp at these parts and down force which effects our overall race pace now that's frustrating. The race will be interesting no doubt we will lead down the strait it is the rest that's the Achilles heel.

[doublesixes]

What is basically the issue with our cars and the apparent lack of downforce. Is it just related to the particular wing design? If so, could the older wing be used to make up the deficit? Or is it a more substantial, deeper problem that would require a major design change?

The lack of race pace is really significant compared to MB at least. RB also seems to gain in the latter stages of the race whereas our cars become increasingly slower.

[Brembo]

What will make for a great race for us fans will be our drivers pushing their cars to the very limit , a podium spot or nothing mentality. O K , if Charles starts on pole, let him be a little more careful !

[vcs316]

Secretly Ferrari have already started on next year's car.Its on a no need to talk basis.The sf90 if only it could handle curves and bends better ever so slightly Ferrari would challenge at all circuits. We loose temp at these parts and down force which effects our overall race pace now that's frustrating. The race will be interesting no doubt we will lead down the strait it is the rest that's the Achilles heel.

Work on 2020 car started a few months ago.

[nani_s23]

Work on 2020 car started a few months ago.

Simone Resta will start working from Nov with ferrari. MB stated that he works on 2021 car.

[tifosi1993]

Leclerc vs Vettel (best sectors)

Sector 1: 30.515 vs 30.720
Sector 2: 45.466 vs 45.269
Sector 3: 28.800 vs 28.668

[tifosi1993]

Red flag, here are best sectors so far

Sector 1:
Leclerc 30.515
Vettel 30.720
Bot 31.066
Ham 31.147
Max 31.273

Sector 2:
Bot 45.137
Ham 45.174
Vettel 45.269
Leclerc 45.466
Max 45.914

Sector 3:
Vettel 28.668
Leclerc 28.800
Max 28.847
Bot 28.993
Ham 29.078

[chinmay]

Secretly Ferrari have already started on next year's car. Its on a no need to talk basis.The sf90 if only it could handle curves and bends better ever so slightly Ferrari would challenge at all circuits. We loose temp at these parts and down force which effects our overall race pace now that's frustrating. The race will be interesting no doubt we will lead down the strait it is the rest that's the Achilles heel.

What is secret in that? Every team works on next year's car by this time every year. All teams are working on 2021 concepts as well.

[racingbradley]

Oops Lewis. I expect him to be ready for quali though.
Is it a set back for his weekend though.

[chinmay]

Secretly Ferrari have already started on next year's car. Its on a no need to talk basis.The sf90 if only it could handle curves and bends better ever so slightly Ferrari would challenge at all circuits. We loose temp at these parts and down force which effects our overall race pace now that's frustrating. The race will be interesting no doubt we will lead down the strait it is the rest that's the Achilles heel.

What is secret in that? Every team works on next year's car by this time every year. All teams are working on 2021 concepts as well.

[nani_s23]

Leclerc vs Vettel (best sectors)

Sector 1: 30.515 vs 30.720
Sector 2: 45.466 vs 45.269
Sector 3: 28.800 vs 28.668

Both ferrari cars sliding all around in S2 still did good times

[tifosi1993]

Q3 quali sim

Leclerc did one lap, 1:44.206 (30.617, PB S2 44.922, Best S3 28.667)

Vettel did 2 laps: 1:45.156 (30.730, 45.339, 29.087) & 1:45.280 (PB S1 30.623, 45.847, 28.810)

Bottas did several laps, his best: 1:44.703 (31.120, Best S2 44.618, 28.965)

[tifosi1993]

Another Merc PU goes kaboom

[458 Italia]

I'm liking Merc's new engine upgrade :lol :lol

It won't effect hamilton though...

[tifosi1993]

I do love an old fashioned engine blowup, and it's a Merc PU so another plus point :thumb

[Aziz]

I do love an old fashioned engine blowup, and it's a Merc PU so another plus point :thumb

It seems Lec is having an issue

[SilverSpeed]

Sad this gives Lewis more time to repair, maybe toto pushed the destroy button.

Also a lot of people in from of Charles car?

[tifosi1993]

It seems Lec is having an issue

He's out on track :thumb

[tifosi1993]

Leclerc 30.450 in Sector 1, Vettel 30.507

Leclerc 44.722 in Sector 2, Vettel 45.121 in Sector 2

Leclerc 28.415 in Sector 3, Vettel 28.481 in Sector 3

[Rishu]

Leclerc’s Pole to lose

[tifosi1993]

As I said before, in terms of raw pace Leclerc is up there with the best. But he needs to calm down a bit, and most importantly Ferrari needs to stop making mistakes

[tifosi1993]

Red Flag, Giovinazzi

[paolo lalli]

Red is the only colour.

[Lesky]

Everything up until now pointless. Lets see what happens when Merc turn up their engine for Q3.

[Frank Dhont]

Everything up until now pointless. Lets see what happens when Merc turn up their engine for Q3.

Kaboouuummm :)

[IulianFerrari]

Kimi up there with Verstappen and Bottas

[Lesky]

Probably will be a coin toss between Ferrari and Merc for pole.

[tifosi1993]

Leclerc 30.054 in sector 1

[Tifoso Svedese]

Please, please, please get out of the garage in Q3 now...

[tifosi1993]

Bottas did 44.078 in sector 2, Vettel 44.357 and Leclerc 44.500.

Leclerc was faster than Vettel in Sector 1 and 3, Vettel faster in Sector 2, and tenth slower in sector 1 and lost tenth and a half in sector 3.

[IulianFerrari]

Probably will be a coin toss between Ferrari and Merc for pole.
We should have the first row locked

[tifosi1993]

Probably will be a coin toss between Ferrari and Merc for pole.

We get it, you're desperate for Merc pole.


We should have the first row locked

Yeah...even when Ferrari performs well, we get certain posters here who're not happy.

[RACERX11]

any links to live stream?

[Lesky]

We get it, you're desperate for Merc pole.



Yeah...even when Ferrari performs well, we get certain posters here who're not happy.

Big difference between being realistic and not happy. How many times havent Merc strucken back in Q3? The talk about anyone wanting a Merc pole is a joke.

[tifosi1993]

Ricciardo 44.2, Great lap

[Lesky]

any links to live stream?

This is working for me: http://strims.world/c/f1.php?source=1

[tifosi1993]

Leclerc going for pole, Vettel on a bad lap

[tifosi1993]

As I said not a good lap from Seb, was slower than Leclerc in Sector 2.

[Rishu]

Bang! 6 tenths up on Taxi

[tifosi1993]

We need to get both Lec and Seb out ahead of the traffic.

[chinmay]

Bang! 6 tenths up on Taxi

You've said that before and then taxi ends up P1 when it all matters on Sunday.

[chinmay]

Bang! 6 tenths up on Taxi

You've said that before and then taxi ends up P1 when it all matters on Sunday.

[Rishu]

You've said that before and then taxi ends up P1 when it all matters on Sunday.

I’m going to enjoy whatever comes our way, not going to be pessimistic and negative all the time

[tifosi1993]

Leclerc 29.904 sector 1, but Vettel now just did 29.897!

[stefa]

Yeah!!!!

[tifosi1993]

POLE AND FERRARI 1-2! GO Charlie boy, awesome lap nearly 0.8 sec faster than Vettel

[Rishu]

Yess baby

[stefa]

What a lap!?!?!?

[Ferrarichamp]

:clap

[TonyRizza]

Kinda embarrassing to be that far behind

[Noquarter]

Charles destroyed Vettel :-)

[Ferrarichamp]

Lewis almost got Seb, glad we got front row.

[racingbradley]

At last a Ferrari 1, 2 yippee:clap

[wappad]

Well done Scuderia :clap!!

Good luck tomorrow Charles and Seb :clap

Forza Ferrari :thumb

[tifosi1993]

You've said that before and then taxi ends up P1 when it all matters on Sunday.

Its good that we have Charles now, otherwise Vettel fanboys like youself would be saying how Vettel over-drove the car and out-qualified the mighty and faster Mercedes.

[Rishu]

Its good that we have Charles now, otherwise Vettel fanboys like youself would be saying how Vettel over-drove the car and out-qualified the mighty and faster Mercedes.

Hahahaha

[Tifoso Svedese]

:thumb

Getting to Les Combes 1-2 and both cars running to the finish and I think we'll have this one.

Hammy splitting the cars and it could be trouble. Incredible lap by Charles either way. Schumacher vibes.

[chinmay]

Its good that we have Charles now, otherwise Vettel fanboys like youself would be saying how Vettel over-drove the car and out-qualified the mighty and faster Mercedes.

Leclerc drove well but you would be deluded to think that Leclerc is faster and better driver than Vettel.

[wappad]

Charles destroyed Vettel :-)


And Vettel best of the rest :thumb

Great day for the Scuderia :clap

[chinmay]

Tomorrow Leclerc and Vettel must work together at the start, last year's tow on the straight gave opportunity to 4 cars.

[SilverSpeed]

Mega lap by Charles and Lewis the hypocrite wines about creating traffic haha.

[evo_spook]

Leclerc drove well but you would be deluded to think that Leclerc is faster and better driver than Vettel.

I think Charles is faster

[tifosi1993]

Leclerc drove well but you would be deluded to think that Leclerc is faster and better driver than Vettel.

Only one who is deluded his you buddy. Out-qualified by 7 tenths, absolute thrashing. :lol

[tifosi1993]

Tomorrow Leclerc and Vettel must work together at the start, last year's tow on the straight gave opportunity to 4 cars.

I just hope your idol doesn't take out Charles at the start, with his mediocre race craft it is quite possible. Also Hamilton is behind him so we know Vettel will even more restless at the start

[paolo lalli]

No dillusion he is the next big thing I have said this before.Give Charles an all round fi car and he will do the business.

[Rishu]

Vettel has advantage with huge Kemmel straight right after Eau Rouge

[Ferrarichamp]

the question now of course is who will have the better race pace.

[nani_s23]

Fantastic lap by Leclerc, he’s very good at quali.
Vettel lost huge chunk of time in S2 alone following Ham. Last year P2 was good for him...!!

Race pace is the worry for ferrari...!! Hope they keep their positions intact & don’t give chance to Ham.

[Ferrarichamp]

tyre strategy will be interesting.

[denskits]

Cmon Ferrari, lap at least the fifth fastest car at the chequered flag tomorrow. This is our redemption!


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[Ferrarichamp]

btw, Charles is now leading Seb 3-1 for poles this season.

[chinmay]

Cmon Ferrari, lap at least the fifth fastest car at the chequered flag tomorrow. This is our redemption!

Winning would be great, 1-2 will be excellent and more than enough.

[SilverSpeed]

Charles 7 - 6 Vettel in qualifying.

If Charles manages his tyres better in the race then he IS the faster driver.

Now he is the faster of the two in qualifying, he just needs to learn some things and we will have a good future ahead of us!

[wisepie]

Great for the team to secure the front row and not wishing to be pessimistic but I do worry about our long run pace and in cooler temperatures tomorrow, but we're in the best place to try and get that elusive win. Seb's lap was a bit of a mess but he still managed to beat HAM, Charles was just superb, they need to work together tomorrow and no preference given to either driver unless it becomes necessary. GIO's engine issue is a worry if Ferrari are intending to use it at Monza, though, I believe we are still on the old spec until then whereas Alfa and Haas have the new one.:Hmm

[chinmay]

The Federation Internationale de l’Automobile (FIA) regrets to advise that a serious incident involving cars #12, #19 and #20 occurred at 17:07 on 31/08/19 as a part of the FIA Formula 2 Sprint Race at Spa-Francorchamps, round 17 of the season.

The scene was immediately attended by emergency and medical crews, and all drivers were taken to the medical centre.

As a result of the incident, the FIA regrets to inform that the driver of car #19, Antoine Hubert (FRA), succumbed to his injuries, and passed away at 18:35.

[19000rpmF-2004]

Good to see Ferrari at front. The red allway looks good when you see the front row.

[458 Italia]

Extremely sad to read. :-s

Thankfully fatalities are few and far between in motorsport these days.

[Tifoso Svedese]

I just pray the race still goes ahead...

This was a crazy, feak accident with very low probability and F1 has never had any serious injuries in 35 years at the modern Spa circuit, with Burti's concussion being the worst. We all know motorsport is dangerous, but F1 cars are safer and drivers more experienced. I just hope the halo didn't cause visibility problems that were discussed as an Eau Rouge-specific problem in the past. The accident investigation will definitely have a lot of things to answer. Whether Correa did have sufficient time to react is my other question. I really hope it wasn't caused by him flooring it in the runoff area. The telemetry will definitely have an answer to it sooner or later.

The best way to honour Hubert's memory is to have 44 safe laps of racing tomorrow.

[Liscia]

Congratulations to Charles and our team for a fantastic weekend so far and tomorrow will be the icing on the cake!
I hope we pull this one out and wish that Charles gets his first and overdue win in red! FORZA FERRARI!!!

[T99]

Charles 7 - 6 Vettel in qualifying.

If Charles manages his tyres better in the race then he IS the faster driver.

Now he is the faster of the two in qualifying, he just needs to learn some things and we will have a good future ahead of us!

Vettel has always made the difference in slow and medium speed corners, if you give him a car that drives like **** in the corners he can’t make a difference, it’s up to the team to build a car to the drivers strengths, and I do believe if you give the right spec car to vettel he is still the fastest driver

[nani_s23]

Vettel has always made the difference in slow and medium speed corners, if you give him a car that drives like **** in the corners he can’t make a difference, it’s up to the team to build a car to the drivers strengths, and I do believe if you give the right spec car to vettel he is still the fastest driver

We have two drivers who can give it all during quali. Vet used be best at quali & start. Now it seems Charles overtaken him.
Vet’s another strength is managing tyres, which Charles yet to pick up in that aspect. He will soon get rid of that too.
If ferrari build a strong car next year, then we have hands full on that WCC & WDC too. Waiting for it.

[SilverSpeed]

The corner isn't safe for the FIA regulation but it's an old corner with a rich history, maybe now they will change it.

[Tifoso Svedese]

The corner isn't safe for the FIA regulation but it's an old corner with a rich history, maybe now they will change it.

There's plenty of space to extend runoff in Raidillon. That's the most likely option. Judging by satellite measurement, it's about 20 metres right now, could easily be 50.

[Brembo]

Leclerc drove well but you would be deluded to think that Leclerc is faster and better driver than Vettel.

For sure! Just look at how great Seb is doing, team orders and all; he can;t get Ferrari a win. He left his racing heart at R Bull! Charles is like it or not Ferrari's main hope now and in the future! I wish Seb the best along with his pay.

[From Treviso]

GIO - did he suffer and ICE failure or was it turbo or something else?

[Infi24r]

Leclerc is showing why Raikkonen should have been out of that car years ago. It really does make you wonder just how good the 2017 and 2018 Ferraris were.

[Cevertmyhero]

Charles was amazing today! He's owed so I hope no team orders, the titles are gone anyway.

[From Treviso]

Yeah, without Charles, we would not have seen the huge margin that we have now. We would have thought that Mercedes were right up with us, when they really are not close at all. Mind you, Vettel could have done a great lap as well had he not got caught up with the malaise prior on the out lap!

[nani_s23]

Again the same person talking about vet’s pay. In every thread.:rotfl

[chinmay]

Vettel's fastest time of qualifying came in Q2, no wonder he was disappointed after completing his Q3 run as he was fastest of all in Sector 1 and pole was there for taking. Today should be a good race. Hope Charles can win today, he has been mighty all weekend.

[Vettel165]

Been following Seb for 12 years now. And cheering for him, I am one of his biggest fans. Seb never liked low-downforce cars his driving style is like this. This is why I think this ferrari will never suit him with the low drag and low downforce style. Mercedes or Rbr in their cars they have much more stable rear end and more downforce. If Seb drove this 2 cars I think he could deliver much more and that extra pace like he did in the special Seb era. A big shame that Ferrari Team doesnt listen to Seb to prioritize downforce over top speed. I am sure he things like that. Will always be for him until the end, no matter what.

[JPZ]

I just pray the race still goes ahead...

This was a crazy, feak accident with very low probability and F1 has never had any serious injuries in 35 years at the modern Spa circuit, with Burti's concussion being the worst. We all know motorsport is dangerous, but F1 cars are safer and drivers more experienced. I just hope the halo didn't cause visibility problems that were discussed as an Eau Rouge-specific problem in the past. The accident investigation will definitely have a lot of things to answer. Whether Correa did have sufficient time to react is my other question. I really hope it wasn't caused by him flooring it in the runoff area. The telemetry will definitely have an answer to it sooner or later.

The best way to honour Hubert's memory is to have 44 safe laps of racing tomorrow.

IndyCar will be using the Aeroscreen next year, if it's successful, hopefully F1 will use it too.

It offers more side protection and more visibility and arguably looks a lot better too.

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[chinmay]

Been following Seb for 12 years now. And cheering for him, I am one of his biggest fans. Seb never liked low-downforce cars his driving style is like this. This is why I think this ferrari will never suit him with the low drag and low downforce style. Mercedes or Rbr in their cars they have much more stable rear end and more downforce. If Seb drove this 2 cars I think he could deliver much more and that extra pace like he did in the special Seb era. A big shame that Ferrari Team doesnt listen to Seb to prioritize downforce over top speed. I am sure he things like that. Will always be for him until the end, no matter what.

That could happen as early as next year! More downforce and solid rear end will make Vettel one with the car and that will bring back 2017 Vettel - Unbeatable!

[Brembo]

Been following Seb for 12 years now. And cheering for him, I am one of his biggest fans. Seb never liked low-downforce cars his driving style is like this. This is why I think this ferrari will never suit him with the low drag and low downforce style. Mercedes or Rbr in their cars they have much more stable rear end and more downforce. If Seb drove this 2 cars I think he could deliver much more and that extra pace like he did in the special Seb era. A big shame that Ferrari Team doesnt listen to Seb to prioritize downforce over top speed. I am sure he things like that. Will always be for him until the end, no matter what.

Is it that Ferrari doesn't listen to Seb or they just fail at getting it right? How could they not listen to who they truly have as their top driver ? Lewis is criticized for his relentless pressure on his mechanics and tech. people to get the car the way he wants it , and they do it. Look where they are! The Ferrari name is a legend @ F-1 , around forever, the people there now aren't. That has to be it. They can't get it right, They don't know how. Seb is not to blame for whats going on there.

[paolo lalli]

Speed and down force need to be balanced.Pointless having it on tight twisty circuits which probably represent 60% of fi circuits this is where Ferrari is not working.Strait line speed or drag race untouchable.Unfortunately the championship will not be decided on speed alone where the car is concerned.So Ferrari win where you can and spa is a can 100%.

[SilverSpeed]

They should better start to listen to Charles, he IS THE FUTURE!

[FerrariF60]

They should better start to listen to Charles, he IS THE FUTURE!

^this.....could NOT agree more....out with the old, in with the NEW!!!!

[FerrariF60]

wish a good and clean race from BOTH of our drivers....

Forza Ferrari!!!!!!!!!!!

[paolo lalli]

Remember the name Charles it's the new Lewis.

[ferrari1.8t]

Remember the name Charles it's the new Lewis.

Only if the FIA and Liberty say so.

Verstapen is really F1’s new golden-boy that will eventually take the torch from Hamilton. He is already immensely praised by sky and co. and can do no wrong in the eyes of the stewards.