2019 Brazilian GP - Build up - Practice - Qualifying

[Greig]

Leclerc engine penalty :-(

[SilverSpeed]

2020 spec they whisper...

[FerrariF60]

2020 spec they whisper...

Yup, he will easily carve his way through the field and hopefully onto the podium

[19000rpmF-2004]

2020 spec they whisper...
First I can say that it will be good to see what we have for next year, but I don’t known if it’s a good idea to show all our cards of what the engine are capevable of/ horse power.
It’s not to early for that now?

[aroutis]

Frankly I don't mind at all, I believe it to be a power move.
This engine is whispered to be 1150 HP strong. If this is the case and after all this cheating talk, we need to respond in force.

[Brembo]

First I can say that it will be good to see what we have for next year, but I don’t known if it’s a good idea to show all our cards of what the engine are capevable of/ horse power.
It’s not to early for that now?

If it means two wins for Ferrari 2019, it's worth every H P !

[paolo lalli]

Ferrari are clever they never show there true hand. Would not surprise me that all they have been running a proto type for second half of the season tense the power advantage.Now that the fia has clarified a few things of late Ferrari can move forward positively for 2020 and it starts in Brazil.

[Tifoso Svedese]

He'd better have the license to really push the engines over 71 laps if so, otherwise not putting in another Spec 3 and taking a penalty in the unwinnable race in the US was all for nought. Brazil really is a potential win for a Ferrari this season so I really hope they know what they're doing. Last year, both Hammy and Vettel ran their engines turned down to a farcial level in that race, whereas Max drove circles around them in his fresher one from a lower grid position. Not that low, of course, but still. Also, don't forget how Max almost won in the US last year using "play mode" on his engine from P18 on the grid as Kimi and Hammy circulated with theirs turned down.

It's a huge weekend for Vettel though, because now the door to pole and track position is wide open for him.

[jgonzalesm6]

tire selection by driver

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EInKGnSWkAAdr5j.jpg


components used prior to the BrazilianGP

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race stewards

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track layout

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weather so far......

Friday: high risk of rain/Thundershowers (27ºC).

Saturday: Cloudy/Risk Drizzle-Light Rain (22ºC).

Sunday: Partly Cloudy/dry (23ºC)

[Brembo]

It's a huge weekend for Vettel though, because now the door to pole and track position is wide open for him.

Exactly my thoughts! Ferrari just can't see Charles finish 2019 further ahead of their $50 million dollar driver. But; lets see how it goes. It for sure helps at least to make the race more interesting seeing Charles come up from the back.

[vcs316]

Exactly my thoughts! Ferrari just can't see Charles finish 2019 further ahead of their $50 million dollar driver. But; lets see how it goes. It for sure helps at least to make the race more interesting seeing Charles come up from the back.

:paranoid

[Brembo]

:paranoid

I hope your right !

[nani_s23]

Exactly my thoughts! Ferrari just can't see Charles finish 2019 further ahead of their $50 million dollar driver. But; lets see how it goes. It for sure helps at least to make the race more interesting seeing Charles come up from the back.

:rotfl never ending story from you. Just copy paste stuff

[Hornet]

2020 spec they whisper...

Does the development regulations allow this though?
I'd imagine Merc would be doing the same if it's possible.

Being able to test next year spec at the remaining races would be a huge development advantage for that new spec

[Giallo 550]

First I can say that it will be good to see what we have for next year, but I don’t known if it’s a good idea to show all our cards of what the engine are capevable of/ horse power.
It’s not to early for that now?

I don't think running the 2020 engine for two races would change anything the other teams do. Each team is already utilizing all of its resources and giving 100% to achieve the best possible results. Anything more than that is simply impossible, unless more money is invested, but there's that budget cap...


Frankly I don't mind at all, I believe it to be a power move.
This engine is whispered to be 1150 HP strong. If this is the case and after all this cheating talk, we need to respond in force.

I agree. It's gutsy and I like it.

[Brembo]

:rotfl never ending story from you. Just copy paste stuff

Thanks for always keeping an eye out for me . O k Ferrari lacks down force, their tire choices are not on the money esp. for a team that's been around a while like Ferrari. 2021 according to Binotto will be a lot better as far as strategy, engine and down force! Louis will never match Michael. It's his car ;not him that wins. Bottas is his butler. I like saying he's Rubenized ! Oh I almost forgot . Merc is hooked up with F I A . B T W your English is getting better !

[nani_s23]

Thanks for always keeping an eye out for me . O k Ferrari lacks down force, their tire choices are not on the money esp. for a team that's been around a while like Ferrari. 2021 according to Binotto will be a lot better as far as strategy, engine and down force! Louis will never match Michael. It's his car ;not him that wins. Bottas is his butler. I like saying he's Rubenized ! Oh I almost forgot . Merc is hooked up with F I A . B T W your English is getting better !

Thanks for awarding a certificate to me. :-D. Eye on you, yeah just like Your eye is on 50mil$.
By the way your rubenize saga continues in every post.:clap.
Keep going....

[Stormsearcher]

Ferrari are clever they never show there true hand. Would not surprise me that all they have been running a proto type for second half of the season tense the power advantage.Now that the fia has clarified a few things of late Ferrari can move forward positively for 2020 and it starts in Brazil.

Interesting thought. If we have been doing that, then bodes well for 2020.

[Stormsearcher]

Exactly my thoughts! Ferrari just can't see Charles finish 2019 further ahead of their $50 million dollar driver. But; lets see how it goes. It for sure helps at least to make the race more interesting seeing Charles come up from the back.

lol, to be honest, this was the first thought that crossed my mind. :-D

[19000rpmF-2004]

I don't think running the 2020 engine for two races would change anything the other teams do. Each team is already utilizing all of its resources and giving 100% to achieve the best possible results. Anything more than that is simply impossible, unless more money is invested, but there's that budget cap...

What my thinking was that if they show the power the new PU has now will get other to look for different solution to get more power. But if Ferrari keep low profile will Carrie the advantage next season. Just my thinking.

[ChrisFerrari]

Does the development regulations allow this though?
I'd imagine Merc would be doing the same if it's possible.

Being able to test next year spec at the remaining races would be a huge development advantage for that new spec

I'm pretty sure its not the prototype of the 2020 engine just some upgraded parts are integrated into this year's engine. We can call it a hybrid so to say. I dont expect anything miraculous coming from it, Charles will not lap the field and carve his way through them but it will be a good reference point moving forward to next year's engine development.

[Brembo]

Honda has been changing engines all season having to start further back etc. each time. It seems to be that they really got better and are now a lets say 3rd. place or better threat.

[KimiBot]

Raining...:-s

[KimiBot]

well, at least Sky now has time to talk about Lewis

[tifosi1993]

Raining...:-s

Not anymore. :-)

[KimiBot]

Does anyone know why Ocon is taking Hulks seat
All I remember about Ocon was some rookie mistakes, is he good, have I missed that

[Ferrarichamp]

Does anyone know why Ocon is taking Hulks seat
All I remember about Ocon was some rookie mistakes, is he good, have I missed that

maybe Renault want a French driver? don't know really.

[bondilad]

so according sky Charles is using the new PU.
practice 2 might be more interesting.

[tifosi1993]

Ferrari's out on super softs, brave decision.

Bottas out on mediums

[Ferrarichamp]

Albon P1

[KimiBot]

Tutorial: The Sebastian Vettel hat trick

https://twitter.com/F1/status/1195070898719477760

[stefa]

Tutorial: The Sebastian Vettel hat trick

https://twitter.com/F1/status/1195070898719477760
:thumb

[wisepie]

Hoping we can get some dry running in FP2 and prove that we still have some pace after all the allegations being made about our engine, presumably Charles has to use this new ICE for the whole weekend, not sure if they use the race engine in FP sessions. FP1 times are probably not indicative of where anyone really stands.

[Ferrarichamp]

I'm sure you're right wisepie, FP1 probably irrelevant to some degree.
Although it would be pretty funny if Albon won the race :-E

[PURE PASSION]

Νιce start on mediums!!!
How much I would love to see a timetable like this one tomorrow!!!! Ves to be half a sec behind !!!!!!!!!!

[PURE PASSION]

Νιce start on mediums!!!
How much I would love to see a timetable like this one tomorrow!!!! Ves to be half a sec behind !!!!!!!!!!

[paolo lalli]

Verstapen needs to put a tulip in his mouth and focus on driving .Hope fully no more out of school brain snap comments.

[tifosi1993]

(Top 5)

Sector 1:
Vettel 17.833
Leclerc 17.837
Verstappen 18.011
Bottas 18.011
Hamilton 18.035

Sector 2:
Verstappen 35.058
Bottas 35.113
Hamilton 35.184
Vettel 35.185
Leclerc 35.189

Sector 3:
Verstappen 16.145
Leclerc 16.150
Hamilton 16.166
Vettel 16.170
Bottas 16.249

[tifosi1993]

25 minutes left and Vettel still not out for his race sim.

[tifosi1993]

Long run watch (Early lap)

Leclerc on mediums, 1:13.597
Ves on softs. 1:13.460
Ham on softs, 1:13.834

[PURE PASSION]

Any other info about race pace ??!!

[tifosi1993]

Any other info about race pace ??!!

Looking quite good. Leclerc is now on traffic (behind Norris).

[tifosi1993]

Lovely FP2 for Honda engines. :lol

[PURE PASSION]

Looking quite good. Leclerc is now on traffic (behind Norris).

Thanks!!!
I only managed to see that Ves did a 1:13:1 on mediums in his 1st lap with new tires and lighter,while Lec earlier with some laps on the tires and heavier ,he had done 1:13:3 .
So yes that looks promising.
But the commentators in my country's tv said in one time that Merc drivers where doing sub 1:13s while Ferrari drivers where doing 1:13+!!!°����

[tifosi1993]

FP2 long run:

Vettel (softs): 1:13.588-1:13.233-1:13.154-1:13.511-1:13.576-1:13.819-slow lap-slow lap-1:13.934-1:14.046

Leclerc (mediums): 1:13.597-1:13.716-VSC-1:13.520-1:13.500-1:13.350-1:13.726-1:13.752-1:13.927-1:13.704-slow lap-1:13.981-1:14.189-1:14.253

Verstappen (softs): 1:13.460-1:13.722-VSC-1:13.729-1:13.344-slow lap-1:13.354-1:13.505-1:13.651
Verstappen (mediums): 1:13.102-1:13.037

Bottas (softs): slow lap-1:14.270-1:13.863-1:14.065-VSC-slow lap-slow lap-1:12.872
Bottas (hards): 1:14.669-1:14.303-1:13.721

Hamilton (softs): 1:13.478-1:13.446-1:13.834-slow lap-VSC-slow lap-1:13.054-1:13.049-1:12.970-1:13.395
Hamilton (mediums): 1:12.971-1:13.587-1:12.964

[PURE PASSION]

Well this seems once again that Merc have the upper hand especially to tire degradation!!!

[SilverSpeed]

So no 2020 engine spec for Charles.

And also

https://mobile.twitter.com/Vetteleclerc/status/1195421898986917888

:rotfl :rotfl :rotfl

[paolo lalli]

It's just chasis related and load balance .Ferrari will rectify this for 2020 work has been going on at the factory.Engine wise a master stroke.Next years engine is even more powerful then this one.No need to use 2020 parts the power side of things is under control.

[nani_s23]

When max spun almost hit the barrier in FP1...that huge cheer from the crowd says it all :rotfl

[paolo lalli]

The butler botas can stop now that thick head .His butler tactics almost caused collisions with Hamilton and vetal.Some tell the butler the championship has been decided and guess what the bone head did not win.

[chinmay]

Any other info about race pace ??!!

F1.com says Mercedes fastest, Red Bull 2 tenths a lap slower, Ferrari 4 tenths slower than Mercedes.

[paolo lalli]

Penski corporation in talks to acquire mercedes f1 team it is for sale they have made a bid.The other interested party is a Russian family involved in chemicals.Where will the wolf go ?And how will this impact Lewis.?.

[Brembo]

Penski corporation in talks to acquire mercedes f1 team it is for sale they have made a bid.The other interested party is a Russian family involved in chemicals.Where will the wolf go ?And how will this impact Lewis.?.

Is Merc moving to F-E ?

[wisepie]

Horner is still banging on at Interlagos about the technical directives against our engine, our pace in FP2 seems to have returned so let's pray that all this questioning over our legality is not going to backfire on Ferrari. We'll no doubt have a clearer picture after quali, even though Charles will suffer wherever he qualifies.:-E

[Ferrarichamp]

Horner bitter again? must be a midlife crisis :lol

[wappad]

Horner bitter again? must be a midlife crisis :lol

:thumb

According to Horner Verstappen words after Austin have been taken out of context due to translated from Dutch into German and finally into English :-)


I quote Verstappen from Dutch tv after Jack Plooys remark that Red Bull was much nearer to the Mercs and Ferrari suddenly hadn't been there:
'Ja, maar dat is als je stopt met vals spelen natuurlijk' ('Yes,but that is when you stop playing false of course')

Quote closed :-)

So I'm pretty sure Horner doesn't understand Dutch..;-)

Can't wait for the Quali to start. Forza Ferrari :clap

[Tifoso Svedese]

:thumb
I quote Verstappen from Dutch tv after Jack Plooys remark that Red Bull was much nearer to the Mercs and Ferrari suddenly hadn't been there:
'Ja, maar dat is als je stopt met vals spelen natuurlijk' ('Yes,but that is when you stop playing false of course')


I speak next to no Dutch but I can read it fairly well since I'm a trilingual Swedish-German-English speaker so can attack each word from three angles. No ambiguity over what he said there. "vals spelen" = "falsche spielen" in German, "falskt spel" in Swedish = foul play in English. Comical attempts from Horner to deflect from that.

[wappad]

I speak next to no Dutch but I can read it fairly well since I'm a trilingual Swedish-German-English speaker so can attack each word from three angles. No ambiguity over what he said there. "vals spelen" = "falsche spielen" in German, "falskt spel" in Swedish = foul play in English. Comical attempts from Horner to deflect from that.

Du har sagt det jättebra :thumb

[paolo lalli]

Horner just can't hack it.He should become the spice girls baggage handler be gone evil spirit.

[nani_s23]

Horner just can't hack it.He should become the spice girls baggage handler be gone evil spirit.

Combined with mad max

[alfaromeo]

Auto bild:Mercedes is for sale in F1. In my opinion Hamilton will join Ferrari 2021.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Auto bild:Mercedes is for sale in F1. In my opinion Hamilton will join Ferrari 2021.

Ferrari's corporate and team culture does not tolerate having a loaded gun who thinks he's bigger than Ferrari in the team. Alonso being unceremoniously dropped the moment Vettel said he was available speaks volumes about that. Also, our refusal to recruit Alonso since then when Kimi flopped further confirms that. Alonso would've gladly joined us for 2018 and 2019 yet did not receive an offer. Why would we unsettle Charles like that for a 35-something driver anyway as well as us already having a 4x WDC in the team. In addition, no opposing driver has been more despised among Ferrari fans than him and his ego size does not even fit in Alonso's vast museum.

Charles is our future WDC and the one we need to give a settled environment, rather than dragging him into a Hamilton circus. The first time Charles drove circles around him, Hammy would throw the team under the bus immediately.

Hammy would likely either retire or sign a contract with the new Mercedes owner. His second choice would probably be McLaren if they became the new Mercedes "factory engine". A swap with Red Bull for Max perhaps is also an option. Ferrari is an extreme long-shot, either way.

[tifosi1993]

Car looks a bit handful to drive today.

[Rob]

https://i.postimg.cc/YCGTcKnw/190006-bra.jpg (https://postimg.cc/G4RXYNnM)
https://i.postimg.cc/W1YrkxTt/190015-bra.jpg (https://postimg.cc/tsPY0S1H)
https://i.postimg.cc/sxnfLdnh/190016-bra.jpg (https://postimg.cc/8f6VF3gp)
https://i.postimg.cc/L5hFnqTJ/190025-bra.jpg (https://postimg.cc/PvGR750H)

[Rob]

https://i.postimg.cc/D0RH0x0N/190024-bra.jpg (https://postimg.cc/BPcMwcx5)
https://i.postimg.cc/wvySzKTN/190017-bra.jpg (https://postimg.cc/XGW2Kz5N)

[KimiBot]

Car looks good

[tifosi1993]

Getting absolutely hammered in sector 2. Nearly 4 tenths slower than Hamilton in that sector.

[chinmay]

Car looks good

Yes it is good, only slower than 2 Mercedes and 1 Red Bull.

[gump1480]

Car looks good

Really !! We are 4 tenths down in S2

[Tifoso Svedese]

I call BS on the pace being genuine, gaining less than 0.1 s in the final sector, accelerating uphill, just doesn't seem right. I think that will be more than 0.2 seconds in Q3, as well as 0.15 seconds in S1, making it a fight for hundreds of seconds after S2 is done. Charles will need his cream in the engine tomorrow and Seb needs to save on his third engine.

[nani_s23]

Tyre temp been raised for this weekend

[darkchild]

Thinking Hemlut has been right yesterday for once and Ferrari used tricks described.

[gump1480]

Looks like we can only expect a second row start.

[nani_s23]

Either Ferrari is slow or they haven’t shown true pace.

[gump1480]

Either Ferrari is slow or they haven’t shown true pace.

It can't be anything else...isn't it !!

[chinmay]

Either Ferrari is slow or they haven’t shown true pace.

Car is just slow. It will be even worse in Abu Dhabi. Can't wait for testing 2020.

[tifosi1993]

FP3 best sector (Top 6)

Sector 1:
Verstappen 17.558
Leclerc 17.667
Vettel 17.714
Albon 17.741
Hamilton 17.742
Bottas 17.924

Sector 2:
Hamilton 34.528
Verstappen 34.727
Vettel 34.960
Leclerc 34.961
Albon 35.070
Bottas 35.078

Sector 3:
Leclerc 15.983
Vettel 15.985
Verstappen 16.022
Hamilton 16.050
Bottas 16.098
Albon 16.120

[nani_s23]

Car is just slow. It will be even worse in Abu Dhabi. Can't wait for testing 2020.

How they can be suddenly slow ?? When there were 7 poles from Lec??

[PURE PASSION]

So we are back being slow on the straights ???!!!!
How come and Ves is so slow in S1 ????!!!!

[nani_s23]

FP3 best sector (Top 6)

Sector 1:
Verstappen 17.558
Leclerc 17.667
Vettel 17.714
Albon 17.741
Hamilton 17.742
Bottas 17.924

Sector 2:
Hamilton 34.528
Verstappen 34.727
Vettel 34.960
Leclerc 34.961
Albon 35.070
Bottas 35.078

Sector 3:
Leclerc 15.983
Vettel 15.985
Verstappen 16.022
Hamilton 16.050
Bottas 16.098
Albon 16.120

Honda engine excelled Ferrari engine ?? Don’t think so. S1 & S3 is where Ferrari should be strong.

[bondilad]

Shouldn't we be gaining a lot in the final sector?? Doesn't appear that way..... perhaps we have turned the engine way down ??

[nani_s23]

Shouldn't we be gaining a lot in the final sector?? Doesn't appear that way..... perhaps we have turned the engine way down ??

That was the confidence from Mattia too. He said yesterday that’s it’s imp that we show our competitiveness back on this track & silence the critics. The same from both of our drivers too.

[PURE PASSION]

Shouldn't we be gaining a lot in the final sector?? Doesn't appear that way..... perhaps we have turned the engine way down ??

And then Ves will come up and say : "I told you "
Men this will be a nightmare!!!!!:-(

[bondilad]

That was the confidence from Mattia too. He said yesterday that’s it’s imp that we show our competitiveness back on this track & silence the critics. The same from both of our drivers too.

Let's hope so.

[bondilad]

And then Ves will come up and say : "I told you "
Men this will be a nightmare!!!!!:-(

Yup really hope we can shut him up and the rest once in for all.

[KimiBot]

Shouldn't we be gaining a lot in the final sector?? Doesn't appear that way..... perhaps we have turned the engine way down ??

They were in cruising mode, almost 1 sec slower than last year fp3, car looks good

[PURE PASSION]

And the strange thing is that ,not only we are slow on straights,but we are again so slow in the corners!!!!
From Singapore we had fix that problem and we where fast in the corners .
What happened from Austin ????!!!
It's like we made the car slow everywhere!!!!

[ferenc_k]

We did not have a clean lap in the last 20 minutes or so.
So the result is not representative at all.
Stop whining please.

[PURE PASSION]

We did not have a clean lap in the last 20 minutes or so.
So the result is not representative at all.
Stop whining please.

I think our fast laps where clean.We where alsmost alone in the track.

[nani_s23]

I think our fast laps where clean.We where alsmost alone in the track.

Ya but we did laps very much earlier than other teams.

[FerrariF60]

I think our fast laps where clean.We where alsmost alone in the track.

i think so too....our driver's laps were pretty clean.....we just LOST our power advantage with the 2 TD's the FIA has issues......as much of a ferrari fan that i am....if we indeed cheated to have more power....well it serves us right....CHEATING IS CHEATING.....and am totally against it...that is if we did cheat.....

but the answer is obvious....we lost A LOT OF SPEED in austin and it seems that it hinders us here as well.....:(

[chinmay]

Both Ferrari drivers will have something to fight for - P4 is up for grabs. Leclerc will have advantage with the new engine but Vettel should still be in the fight for P4.

[Ferrarichamp]

so far it doesn't look good..
I thought this circuit was supposed to suit our car? :Hmm

[chinmay]

so far it doesn't look good..
I thought this circuit was supposed to suit our car? :Hmm

Engine is too slow.

[ferenc_k]

i think so too....our driver's laps were pretty clean.....we just LOST our power advantage with the 2 TD's the FIA has issues......as much of a ferrari fan that i am....if we indeed cheated to have more power....well it serves us right....CHEATING IS CHEATING.....and am totally against it...that is if we did cheat.....

but the answer is obvious....we lost A LOT OF SPEED in austin and it seems that it hinders us here as well.....:(

In the last 20 minutes when others were pushing their fastest laps, we could not do a clean lap at all.

[chinmay]

In the last 20 minutes when others were pushing their fastest laps, we could not do a clean lap at all.

Neither Leclerc nor Vettel had any "unclean" lap.

[PURE PASSION]

In the last 20 minutes when others were pushing their fastest laps, we could not do a clean lap at all.

We just made our fast laps before.
In the last 20 min we made a small race pace stint

[PURE PASSION]

Any other thing that bothers me is that if we are fast on straights we are cheating!!! RedBull with Honda that from Mexico looks quite strong on straights without losing their cornering speed, they are just making progress????!!!!!:furious

[nani_s23]

Official protest is on against Ferrari from RB
AMus

[FerrariF60]

Official protest is on against Ferrari from RB
AMus

well if we're cheating.....the cheater must be punished....and if we're slow again on the straights, hten i guess is it was cheating all along....and NOT the AERO EFFICIENT CAR Ferrari said we had....

[bondilad]

Binnoto said earlier Ferrari is not afraid of a protest, if that's the case then nothing to worry about.

[nani_s23]

#AMuS GPS data after FP3 have shown again that the Ferrari have a very good acceleration, similar to Friday. Red Bull and Mercedes might protest if this continues in qualifying...

[paolo lalli]

Being fast down a strait is one thing .Mercedes and red bull just have a better chasis they attack corners better and there cars have a better load distribution spread across the car.This is where Ferrari will focus next year.It will be imperative that they do this because engine wise the gaps are closed very quickly.

[FerrariF60]

#AMuS GPS data after FP3 have shown again that the Ferrari have a very good acceleration, similar to Friday. Red Bull and Mercedes might protest if this continues in qualifying...

they can protest all they want......if Matia is confident that we have nothing to hide then we don't....but if we're doing something NOT right....a.k.a. cheating....well then we'll suffer and get punished

[PURE PASSION]

#AMuS GPS data after FP3 have shown again that the Ferrari have a very good acceleration, similar to Friday. Red Bull and Mercedes might protest if this continues in qualifying...

Well,what they want ?? Just us to be slow????
This is getting ridiculous!!!!
What about Max being so fast in sector 1????How come they managed to be so fast ??? Why aren't they checking them???? They say (RBR) that you cant make such a leap in pu . Well that seems to gain so much on the straights in the last 3-4 races !!!!

[KimiBot]

:ferrarifl

[nani_s23]

Well,what they want ?? Just us to be slow????
This is getting ridiculous!!!!
What about Max being so fast in sector 1????How come they managed to be so fast ??? Why aren't they checking them???? They say (RBR) that you cant make such a leap in pu . Well that seems to gain so much on the straights in the last 3-4 races !!!!

There might be two points in this which RB & Mercs are counting on
1) if they get clarification from where ferrari is gaining much power then it’s helpful for them & mercs next year
2) If Ferrari found guilty, next year ferrari will be on back foot. As Honda currently on mercs level. So the fight might between Max vs Ham. This is what RB is aiming at.

[paolo lalli]

2020 then rip f1.

[FerrariF60]

2020 then rip f1.

unless our 2020 engine will be different then this one and maybe LEGAL???

[WS6TransAm01]

Ferrari should file a protest that MB and RBR are too fast in the corners.

[FerrariF60]

Ferrari should file a protest that MB and RBR are too fast in the corners.

lol....that is LEGAL

[ChrisFerrari]

We are too slow.

[FerrariF60]

that red bull of Max is SUPER FAST.....and he had a LOT of traffic.....DAMN...

WE SEEM TO BE NOWHERE

[Ferrarichamp]

that red bull of Max is SUPER FAST.....and he had a LOT of traffic.....DAMN...

WE SEEM TO BE NOWHERE

RB must be cheating :lou

[tifosi1993]

2020 then rip f1.

Sure....

[gump1480]

How come we are so slow in S1 ...that's surprising

[tifosi1993]

Ferrari out again on new sets of super softs...unnecessary.

[tifosi1993]

How come we are so slow in S1 ...that's surprising

We are not slow in sector 1. We are slow in sector 2, losing 2-3 tenths to both Merc and RB

[DannyBuckley]

lol....that is LEGAL

Is it?

[gump1480]

We are not slow in sector 1. We are slow in sector 2, losing 2-3 tenths to both Merc and RB

We are slower than Redfools...not acceptable in an almost straight-line sector.

[FerrariF60]

We are not slow in sector 1. We are slow in sector 2, losing 2-3 tenths to both Merc and RB

^this....and because our wings have been "clipped off", we're NOT as fast on the straights as we used to be.....that's where we were making up/clawing back a lot of time lost in the corners....SAD BUT TRUE!!

[tifosi1993]

We are slower than Redfools...not acceptable in an almost straight-line sector.

Sector 1 isn't a straight-line sector, the S curve is quite important. Sector 3 on the other hand is a straight-line sector, and Ferrari is faster than both Merc and RB there.

[tifosi1993]

Leclerc, unsurprisingly, out on mediums.

Merc, RB out on SS

Vettel still on garage,

[tifosi1993]

Leclerc...nice lap on medium.

[FerrariF60]

oh god....seb is nowhere....OUR QUALI PACE IS NOWHERE

[PURE PASSION]

oh god....seb is nowhere....OUR QUALI PACE IS NOWHERE

Compare to Max ,not Mercs !!!!!
Isn't THIS suspicious????!!!
VES being half a sec faster then both us and Mercs ???!!!!

[FerrariF60]

Compare to Max ,not Mercs !!!!!
Isn't THIS suspicious????!!!
VES being half a sec faster then both us and Mercs ???!!!!

totally legal mate.....it's only suspicious and cheating if it's FERRARI......

[PURE PASSION]

totally legal mate.....it's only suspicious and cheating if it's FERRARI......

Why????!!!
They started questioning our speed what we where taking poles ??!!!!
What about now ?????Why when we are fast ,we MUST be cheating, and now that RBR is surprisingly SO FAST,nothing matters, just good job???!!!!

[springfield]

I guess it was sarcasm.

[PURE PASSION]

I guess it was sarcasm.

Yes I know. The "why" was not to f60 but general scepticism!!!:-D
I'm thinking out loud !!!!:-D

[FerrariF60]

why isn't charles giving seb a tow?? he will get 10 places drop anyways....

[bondilad]

5 out of top10 cars have Ferrari engines....maybe it is not our engine.

[tifosi1993]

This is close. Top 3 separated by 0.105. Come on Ferrari

[tifosi1993]

5 out of top10 cars have Ferrari engines....maybe it is not our engine.

It never was. But edgy people gonna be edgy...
Our super qualify mode is working as usual.

[PURE PASSION]

Why Lec had worse S3 then Vet with brand new PU ??!!!:Hmm

[FerrariF60]

This is close. Top 3 separated by 0.105. Come on Ferrari

yeah, pretty tight.....every tiny mistake makes you lose POLE

[Tifoso Svedese]

Protest Honda's engine immediately then.

[Giallo 550]

It wasn't even a great lap from Verstappen.

[FerrariF60]

Why Lec had worse S3 then Vet with brand new PU ??!!!:Hmm

ran a little wide before teh long straight...so maybe lost a bit of time

[PURE PASSION]

I'm afraid that Max is gonna destroy everybody !!!!

[FerrariF60]

Why Lec had worse S3 then Vet with brand new PU ??!!!:Hmm

ran a little wide before teh long straight...so maybe lost a bit of time

[FerrariF60]

I'm afraid that Max is gonna destroy everybody !!!!

me too....but lets hope not

[chinmay]

yeah, pretty tight.....every tiny mistake makes you lose POLE

Verstappen was almost 2 tenths slower than his Q2 lap. So it is not close. With a clean lap, he will be light years ahead.

[tifosi1993]

P2 and P14 (P4)....well done.

Really surprised by RB TBH, pole in Mexico and now here in Brazil.

[Greig]

Red Bull still the kings of aero, hopefully Ferrari get some decent aero sometime soon.

[FerrariF60]

P2 and P14 (P4)....well done.

Really surprised by RB TBH, pole in Mexico and now here in Brazil.

short lap mate....not enough of a long straight for ferrari to stretch its legs....oh well

too bad charles couldnt' challange for pole with new engine....he'll start 14th....

[Giallo 550]

Got killed in that middle sector.

[FerrariF60]

Red Bull still the kings of aero, hopefully Ferrari get some decent aero sometime soon.

always been mate.....especially since 2009.....

[Tifoso Svedese]

Two big mistake laps from Charles, one from Seb. Major disappointment since on paper this track should be way better than Austin, but at least starting P2, he could potentially take the lead from the start and use track position. Charles has to stay out long enough that he holds the lead and then hope for a SC tomorrow.

Charles had the pace to be P2/P12 today but it wasn't to be. At least from a material standpoint it won't matter too much tomorrow since he'll be in the midfield regardless. Baffling decision not to take the penalty at Austin instead.

10 % chance of Vettel win tomorrow, otherwise all eggs in the Abu Dhabi basket.

Short track at 770 m asl evidently favours weaker engines and energy recovery systems a lot.

[FerrariF60]

Got killed in that middle sector.

yup, we're nowhere where downforce is king and counts

[tifosi1993]

ran a little wide before teh long straight...so maybe lost a bit of time

He lost the P2 because of that. On his first lap he did 16.041, second lap 15.804. (purple sector 3)

Q3 Ultimate lap:

Max 1:07.447
Lec 1:07.486
Ham 1:07.599
Vet 1:07.631

[PURE PASSION]

Anyhow this year was not good for us since day one so nothing to lose now just a good picture in the end.
Let's just hope that we are cooking something good for next year!!!

[tifosi1993]

Qualifying sectors (Top 6)

Sector 1:
Leclerc 17.417
Verstappen 17.425
Vettel 17.462
Hamilton 17.532
Bottas 17.621
Albon 17.631

Sector 2:
Verstappen 34.195
Hamilton 34.248
Leclerc 34.265
Bottas 34.330
Vettel 34.346
Albon 34.384

Sector 3:
Leclerc 15.804
Bottas 15.817
Hamilton 15.819
Vettel 15.823
Verstappen 15.827
Albon 15.897

[bondilad]

Verstappen was almost 2 tenths slower than his Q2 lap. So it is not close. With a clean lap, he will be light years ahead.

His second Q3 lap was clean

[nani_s23]

Qualifying sectors (Top 6)

Sector 1:
Leclerc 17.417
Verstappen 17.425
Vettel 17.462
Hamilton 17.532
Bottas 17.621
Albon 17.631

Sector 2:
Verstappen 34.195
Hamilton 34.248
Leclerc 34.265
Bottas 34.330
Vettel 34.346
Albon 34.384

Sector 3:
Leclerc 15.804
Bottas 15.817
Hamilton 15.819
Vettel 15.823
Verstappen 15.827
Albon 15.897

In this picture it doesn’t show anywhere ferrari is fastest on straights ????

[nani_s23]

Vettel only chance is at the start. Where he can manage race pace if he takes the lead. Else P2/P3 max for us tmrw.
Ferrari should have sent Lec on mediums for q2 in order to push his 1st stint long.

[bondilad]

Vettel only chance is at the start. Where he can manage race pace if he takes the lead. Else P2/P3 max for us tmrw.
Ferrari should have sent Lec on mediums for q2 in order to push his 1st stint long.

He's on mediums

[Ferrarichamp]

we have a car on the front row. I don't think we should give up any hope of winning the race :Hmm

[icedeepan]

To be fair, that was a good performance from Ferrari. Keeping a slight advantage on the straights but only 0.06 off the aero strong Redbull in sector 2 in Leclerc's ideal lap case.

I would take that for next year instead of just being a bullet down the straights.

[Ferrarichamp]

btw, last time we won here was 2 years ago, Seb started the race in P2.

[nani_s23]

He's on mediums

Sure ??? Saw him on Softs I think so.

[KimiBot]

Anyhow this year was not good for us since day one so nothing to lose now just a good picture in the end.
Let's just hope that we are cooking something good for next year!!!

Really strange year, up and down, roller coaster

[ferenc_k]

Sure ??? Saw him on Softs I think so.

Lec 's fastest Q2 lap was on medium.

[nani_s23]

Really strange year, up and down, roller coaster

Yeah... roller coaster is the best term for Ferrari performance.

[nani_s23]

Lec 's fastest Q2 lap was on medium.

Ok thanks for clarification.

[stefa]

Last Ferrari pole in Brasil was back in 2008 with Fellipe Masa

[nani_s23]

Last Ferrari pole in Brasil was back in 2008 with Fellipe Masa

That was too long...!! Still we are waiting.

[Schumir9]

That was too long...!! Still we are waiting.

Vettel going off at redbull's straight-line in post qualy press and interviews.. Max can't even take a bloody joke. Was leclerc using 2020 spec or new PU spec 3?

[nani_s23]

Vettel going off at redbull's straight-line in post qualy press and interviews.. Max can't even take a bloody joke. Was leclerc using 2020 spec or new PU spec 3?

It’s new PU spec3 not 2020. Mattia said 2020 spec isn’t ready yet.

[KimiBot]

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/934083/1/leclerc-angered-big-mistake-brazilian-gp-qualifying

[Rob]

Sebastian Vettel #5
“Max put in a strong lap and so we can be happy with a front row start. I think our performance matched our expectations and it is good that our lap time was reasonably close. It puts us in a good position for tomorrow.
We improved the car, it felt better and it was coming alive in quali, I am reasonably optimistic that we are in good shape for the race, but we will have to wait and see. It is supposed to be a bit warmer and it will be important to look after the tyres and to make the right strategy calls.
It will also be key to get a good start. The weather is unpredictable here in Interlagos, there could be sunshine but it might rain. 71 laps means it’s a long race and I think it will be fun.”

Charles Leclerc #16
“It was not the best qualifying. The team gave me a great car and I believe that the potential was there for us to take pole today. I am disappointed about the mistake I made on the last corner of my first lap in Q3, because I lost about three tenths there. It doesn’t change too much though because I will be starting from the midfield tomorrow due to the grid penalty we have received.
We completed some high fuel runs this morning to work on our race pace, as this is where we have the most room for improvement. We will do our best to apply what we learned there tomorrow. It’s good that we qualified on the medium tyres and I hope that we will be able to gain an advantage and pass some of the cars ahead. It won’t be an easy race and I will give the maximum to make up as many places as possible and hopefully fight for a podium.”

Mattia Binotto Team Principal
“As usual here in Brazil, because of the very short lap length, qualifying was really close with very small gaps between the cars. Max deserved pole, but the group behind him is split by just a few tenths and hundredths. As for our performance, second and fourth is still a good result and Seb can have a good race starting from the front row.
It’s shame Charles has to start further down the order tomorrow. At least he is on the Medium tyres which suited him and that will be important in the first stint, because we expect that tyre to perform more consistently and be less susceptible to the effects of temperature. He did a good lap, apart from a mistake in the final corner and but for that, I think he could have set the fastest time.
We know anything can happen tomorrow and we will try and run a good race. The track is evolving a lot, given that this morning it was very different to yesterday. In qualifying, our drivers felt the car was working better than in FP3, when we concentrated on car balance to best manage tyre degradation, but it’s hard to predict what might happen in the race.”

[Rob]

https://i.postimg.cc/rpmz915f/190036-bra.jpg (https://postimg.cc/v4JQY6qn)
https://i.postimg.cc/JhcKbWcN/190039-bra.jpg (https://postimg.cc/gwjvWQ7j)

[mizf1]

Anyone have the speed trap figures?

[Cevertmyhero]

I am sorry to the mods as this is off topic but I'm very curious.
Can someone tell me why Kvyat was refused a helmet design change for his home grand prix this season but Hamilton has been allowed a new senna tribute helmet here. Why is one allowed and the other not?

Also Forza Ferrari. Go Seb and Charles tomorrow.

[jgonzalesm6]

Anyone have the speed trap figures?

here ya go.....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJhlTLPW4AA7TUh.png

[jgonzalesm6]

I am sorry to the mods as this is off topic but I'm very curious.
Can someone tell me why Kvyat was refused a helmet design change for his home grand prix this season but Hamilton has been allowed a new senna tribute helmet here. Why is one allowed and the other not?

Also Forza Ferrari. Go Seb and Charles tomorrow.

Google "Kvyat refused helmet design". You should get a plethora of info.

[Liscia]

Thanks for the pictures Rob! Our car seems to be the best looking of this year's crop but then I may be biased?

[gump1480]

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/verstappen-feiert-dritte-pole-kein-protest-gegen-ferrari/

This is interesting. Looks like we didn't run the trick in Qualifying.

[paolo lalli]

May be it's red bull who are cheating and they have started a dust storm to deflect from them selves.Iwas once told be wary of a Japanese person offering you gifts.Red bull should be investigated and the bag carrier for the spice girls Mr honer followed by Dr Death himself Marko.

[bondilad]

May be it's red bull who are cheating and they have started a dust storm to deflect from them selves.Iwas once told be wary of a Japanese person offering you gifts.Red bull should be investigated and the bag carrier for the spice girls Mr honer followed by Dr Death himself Marko.

Funny I was wondering the same... just put all attention on ferrari while they break the rules. Maybe they should be investigated like you said.

[Schumir9]

Funny I was wondering the same... just put all attention on ferrari while they break the rules. Maybe they should be investigated like you said.

Yes I just cannot understand redbull slowly just manages to overtake both Ferrari and Merc in a span of two raceweekends. F1 technical fan boys are having a field day mocking ferrari. I really hope leclerc blitzes past everyone and vettel overtakes ver and manages the pace from the front. Need a win here to shut the bandwagon up.

[nani_s23]

Yes I just cannot understand redbull slowly just manages to overtake both Ferrari and Merc in a span of two raceweekends. F1 technical fan boys are having a field day mocking ferrari. I really hope leclerc blitzes past everyone and vettel overtakes ver and manages the pace from the front. Need a win here to shut the bandwagon up.

Nothing can’t be done. Ferrari gave the chance to talk. Thought this weekend they will shut nonsense talk by showing 1-2 quali. Instead it gave more chance to point towards us. That too mad max pole position. Who said Ferrari is cheating. Can’t get worse than this.

[nani_s23]

I think Lec could have taken pole position with that brand new PU spec3 at full power. May be he didn’t set a clean lap

[Brembo]

Wow ! Max at his maximum, on pole! And Lewis splits our Ferrari's. Meanwhile Seb has the car and the experience to get ahead of the crash king rookie. Charles on the podium will be great. This should be a great race to watch start to end. A good chance here for Seb to prove he's worth $50 million !

[Ferrarichamp]

RB and Merc don't cheat, they just 'push the envelope' with brilliant engineering :rotfl

[nani_s23]

Wow ! Max at his maximum, on pole! And Lewis splits our Ferrari's. Meanwhile Seb has the car and the experience to get ahead of the crash king rookie. Charles on the podium will be great. This should be a great race to watch start to end. A good chance here for Seb to prove he's worth $50 million !

Max with 7 career wins & 2 poles proved a lot in 5years of F1 with a top team car:rotfl

[nani_s23]

RB and Merc don't cheat, they just 'push the envelope' with brilliant engineering :rotfl

Yeah flexi wing, fric suspension, fuel load getting disqualified from quali. RB philosophies

[wisepie]

RB's pace in both Mexico and Brazil could be to do with the higher altitudes and their efficient hybrid system, according to something I've read, and we all know that RB's chassis is the best on the tighter circuits, Max also loves Interlagos so it didn't surprise me that he got pole. I worry for Charles starting P14 but he's on the mediums so he just needs to be careful to get through the first laps unscathed and see where it takes him. His aggression in Monaco didn't work out well. Seb just has to go for it. Forza ragazzi!

[Brembo]

Max with 7 career wins & 2 poles proved a lot in 5years of F1 with a top team car:rotfl

All that in 5yrs. is for sure a sign of a future top F-1 driver. He's already recognized as such. A good example of how it is now @ F-1 , Ferrari has Seb with 4 WDCs with the enemy and 100 yrs. experience compared to 5yrs. And he can't get himself arrested win or pole wise. Honda for sure in 1 yr. is coming along as a top team car , but no true Ferrari fan will consider them already equal to Ferrari. Max is in a almost top car, not yet with Merc and Ferrari. So lets say Lewis wins with "the car !" And Honda wins with "Max the driver! "

[nani_s23]

All that in 5yrs. is for sure a sign of a future top F-1 driver. He's already recognized as such. A good example of how it is now @ F-1 , Ferrari has Seb with 4 WDCs with the enemy and 100 yrs. experience compared to 5yrs. And he can't get himself arrested win or pole wise. Honda for sure in 1 yr. is coming along as a top team car , but no true Ferrari fan will consider them already equal to Ferrari. Max is in a almost top car, not yet with Merc and Ferrari. So lets say Lewis wins with "the car !" And Honda wins with "Max the driver! "

What an under statement from you :rotfl
Two different points in one post, should be possible for you only I think so. You rubenized yourself.

Max needs a top car then only he’s top driver ???:-D
The so called top driver max is nowhere to rookie driver Lec who’s in his 2nd year (7 poles in single season) not with a top car yet.

About 100yrs exp, even with 100yrs exp vettel didn’t degrade any other team even while he’s dominating it. But your so called king of F1 made lot of degrading statements on Lewis/mercs & Vettel/ferrari.
May be he learned it from Father Jos :-D..
Father & Mr H to the rescue :rotfl

[Ferrarichamp]

This race has been won numerous times by a driver starting P2 or lower.
Seb can do this.

[chinmay]

Ferrari's advantage lies on straight line, but with high altitude tracks like Mexico and Brazil, that advantage is eroded. Should be an easy podium for Verstappen and 2 Mercedes drivers.

[KimiBot]

I think Lec could have taken pole position with that brand new PU spec3 at full power. May be he didn’t set a clean lap

Both our drivers did a mistake, Charles said he lost a pole because of his mistake.

[KimiBot]

Ferrari's advantage lies on straight line, but with high altitude tracks like Mexico and Brazil, that advantage is eroded. Should be an easy podium for Verstappen and 2 Mercedes drivers.

I think we are going to see something beautiful today, Seb wins and Charles overtakes both Mercs and takes last podium place.

[Schumir9]

I think we are going to see something beautiful today, Seb wins and Charles overtakes both Mercs and takes last podium place.

Charles if he manages to be top 7 by the end of lap 2 he has a shot at the podium even win if the weather changes. Seb must get verstappen at the start. P2 isn't too bad of a place to start here. He did win from P2 a few years ago

[Brembo]

I think we are going to see something beautiful today, Seb wins and Charles overtakes both Mercs and takes last podium place.

Great post ! I can't wait to see Charles in action fighting for a podium or better. He has nothing to lose by driving super aggressively.

[tifosi1993]

Both our drivers did a mistake, Charles said he lost a pole because of his mistake.

+1

Neither of them were able to extract maximum out of the car. Leclerc on his first run did a poor final sector (16.0). His time in sector 1 and 2: 17.4 and 34.2. On his second run he did purple sector 1 (17.4) and sector 3 (15.8), but his sector 2 was poor (34.5).
Vettel on his first Q3 run, was fast in sector 1 and 3, but he lost 2 tenths to Max in sector 2. On his 2nd run he also did 34.5 in sector 2, like Leclerc.

[Ferrarichamp]

fun fact: Michael won here 4 times, never from pole.

[nani_s23]

fun fact: Michael won here 4 times, never from pole.

His skill is totally different. None can match him. He’s a legend.

[Vettel165]

Any chance of Rain?

[Brembo]

What an under statement from you :rotfl
Two different points in one post, should be possible for you only I think so. You rubenized yourself.

Max needs a top car then only he’s top driver ???:-D
The so called top driver max is nowhere to rookie driver Lec who’s in his 2nd year (7 poles in single season) not with a top car yet.

About 100yrs exp, even with 100yrs exp vettel didn’t degrade any other team even while he’s dominating it. But your so called king of F1 made lot of degrading statements on Lewis/mercs & Vettel/ferrari.
May be he learned it from Father Jos :-D..
Father & Mr H to the rescue :rotfl

I guess Max's old man came to the rescue in Brasil! Pole and win. And the future GOAT couldn't catch him. At least Max didn't run around and on the podium with his finger up in every ones face. It was great seeing Rubens doing the interviews ! And no one was telling him to move over and let anyone pass!