2019 Abu Dhabi GP: Practices & Qualifying

[chinmay]

No optimism for this race or switched focus to 2020 already? FP1 is over but no thread yet!

[Super M]

No optimism for this race or switched focus to 2020 already? FP1 is over but no thread yet!



Neh, It's coz Vettel crashed.......:rotfl

[wisepie]

Not a promising start anyway with Seb P5 and Charles P7, both RBs and Mercs ahead, that's before Seb hit the barriers. Other Ferrari-powered cars up in the top 10 though, so hopefully we can get the set-up right as FP progresses.:roll

[tifosi1993]

Ignore FP1 results, there're not representative.

[FerrariF60]

Ignore FP1 results, there're not representative.

Same for fp2, we’re still slow.....Ferrari was never competitive at this crappy track

[tifosi1993]

Same for fp2, we’re still slow.....Ferrari was never competitive at this crappy track

Leclerc on hards only 0.022 seconds behind Hamilton, who also had hard tyres. Not bad it you consider the Merc to be the faster car.

[Vettel165]

Lerlerc nearly crashed as well at Seb corner, and Gio also. That Ferrari is like a boat in s3, no grip available, just understeer.

[tifosi1993]

FP2 quali sim sector times

Sector 1:
Leclerc 17.040
Vettel 17.059
Verstappen 17.125 (on mediums)
Bottas 17.270
Hamilton 17.311

Sector 2:
Leclerc 41.128
Bottas 41.161
Verstappen 41.318
Vettel 41.368
Hamilton 41.343

Sector 3:
Hamilton 37.807
Bottas 37.825
Verstappen 37.972
Vettel 38.264
Leclerc 38.474

[Super M]

7660

[Tifoso Svedese]

We'll be way less slow in S3 tomorrow I'm sure. Not much rubber on the race track means no grip whatsoever. Also, cars aren't optimized yet. Leclerc clearly will have a shot at pole and if it's a one-stop race then that's always good.

[nani_s23]

Looks good FP2 for Ferrari.
As said earlier Ferrari struggling in S3, which is expected.
FP3 they will fine tune the set up & come hard.

[bondilad]

Grosjean involved in an accident.... again. What a surprise !

[KimiBot]

Grosjean involved in an accident.... again. What a surprise !

Grosjean is driving next year too, and Hulk is not, think about that. :-D

[tifosi1993]

Grosjean may be crash-prone, but as a driver, he is far better driver than the likes of Davidson and Chandhok.

It is funny how they blaming him, when it is pretty clear to see that it's entirely Bottas's fault. "Should get out of the way because the big Merc is behind him"....pathetic commentary.

[tifosi1993]

Grosjean is driving next year too, and Hulk is not, think about that. :-D

Well Grosjean has podiums to his name, plus he almost won a race or two. What has Hulk done? compared to Grosjean, absolutely nothing.

[bondilad]

Grosjean may be crash-prone, but as a driver, he is far better driver than the likes of Davidson and Chandhok.

It is funny how they blaming him, when it is pretty clear to see that it's entirely Bottas's fault. "Should get out of the way because the big Merc is behind him"....pathetic commentary.

Perhaps not his fault this time, but the thing with Grosjean is he could have avoided it.

[bondilad]

Grosjean is driving next year too, and Hulk is not, think about that. :-D

I know..... can't believe he's not driving next year.

[tifosi1993]

Perhaps not his fault this time, but the thing with Grosjean is he could have avoided it.

Or Bottas should've waited a bit and overtake him on the straights? He is driving the Merc, it can't be that hard overtaking a Haas. Bottas simply launched at him.

[Vettel165]

We'll be way less slow in S3 tomorrow I'm sure. Not much rubber on the race track means no grip whatsoever. Also, cars aren't optimized yet. Leclerc clearly will have a shot at pole and if it's a one-stop race then that's always good.

Seb also has a chance, as lately in last races he is been slightly faster in qualy.

[bondilad]

Or Bottas should've waited a bit and overtake him on the straights? He is driving the Merc, it's can't be that hard overtaking a Haas. Bottas simply launched at him.

I agree. But Grosjean is prone to accidents either on his own or with others more often.

[alfaromeo]

Leclerk is future in Ferrari 100%. Ferrari must focus in 2020 on him and not on vettel.

[tifosi1993]

Leclerc on hard tyres looked quite competitive.

Leclerc (hards):
1:42.569
1:43.011
1:43.043
1:43.526
1:43.836
1:43.158

Verstappen (mediums):
Traffic
Slow lap
1:43.114
1:43.885
Slow lap
1:43.520

[tifosi1993]

I agree. But Grosjean is prone to accidents either on his own or with others more often.

Never said otherwise. But on this incident, it was entirely Botttas's fault. And the fact that Sky clowns blaming Grosjean for it and making fun of him, is downright pathetic.

[Vettel165]

Leclerk is future in Ferrari 100%. Ferrari must focus in 2020 on him and not on vettel.

Why? Seb is still faster in race-pace. What good is Leclerc qualy pace, if always he is holding Seb up. I think Leclerc is setting up his car more for qualy, this is why in Monza, Spa he was dominant in qualy, but always falls back in the race with poor tyre wear.

We need a strong Seb for 2020, imagine that he comes back with a bang, and wins the title for Ferrari! I am allowed to hope.

I really hope that one day Verstappen will join this team, as he can be a potential of a dominant force, given the right car. Leclerc is slower than Verstappen, if we compare both of them on raw pace, I am sure.

What all Verstappen, Vettel, Leclerc have in common, they are all very error prone, but are super fast. Verstappen is currently the fastest of this trio. Hamilton is not the fastest, but the most error-free driver in the paddock.

[tifosi1993]

Leclerk is future in Ferrari 100%. Ferrari must focus in 2020 on him and not on vettel.

Don't worry, they will. This is his second year in F1 and his first year year at Ferrari, and he has already proven to be faster than Vettel. More wins, poles and points than Vettel.

https://i.imgur.com/UpBE0x0.jpg

And unlike Vettel, Leclerc will keep improving and get better.

[nani_s23]

Why? Seb is still faster in race-pace. What good is Leclerc qualy pace, if always he is holding Seb up. I think Leclerc is setting up his car more for qualy, this is why in Monza, Spa he was dominant in qualy, but always falls back in the race with poor tyre wear.

We need a strong Seb for 2020, imagine that he comes back with a bang, and wins the title for Ferrari! I am allowed to hope.

I really hope that one day Verstappen will join this team, as he can be a potential of a dominant force, given the right car. Leclerc is slower than Verstappen, if we compare both of them on raw pace, I am sure.

What all Verstappen, Vettel, Leclerc have in common, they are all very error prone, but are super fast. Verstappen is currently the fastest of this trio. Hamilton is not the fastest, but the most error-free driver in the paddock.

Disagree. Lec is more dominant than Max.
Max is just robust. Either it’s a stunning move or a crash that’s it from him.
On other end Lec, is good at defensive. I see him next year as a complete driver. Which means In tyre wear if he can get on top of it, he’s a force. Remember he’s just into his 2nd year, Max in his 6/7th year in F1?

Max never been top in quali, given RB strength of good tyre management & chassis. He’s having good race car under him, nowhere I disrespect his skills. Yes he’s top but not at the level of legends etc.
Where as vettel, it’s like if it’s his day then unstoppable else disaster just like max.
Vettel is yet to be proven for his 4WDC, After 2018/2019. He needs a comeback, else I don’t see him beyond 2020 in ferrari if the same mistakes continues.

[paolo lalli]

Charles has performed beyond expectations in his maiden year.Most pole award and should have had third in WDC.If not for some bad luck who knows what could have achieved he has a very brits future. Charles is the real deal the face of f1 mark my words .Remember the name Charles LECREC.

[Vettel165]

Seb had many more bad luck as Charles. Charles has 0 dnfs which were mechanical, Seb has had 2 dnfs, which is at least 30 more points he would have. Given this approach Seb would still be ahead od Leclerc by about 10 points. Some of people here are blind to say he is faster than Seb. Yes in some races he was, but Seb in general is still slightly faster. End of the story. You saw the races yourself, statistics tells the whole story.

Charles was very clumsy in Baku, Monaco, Japan, and Austria, Germany and some more. Seb in GB, Brasil, Bahrain. Too many mistakes by both of drivers and Charles is not a rookie.

[nani_s23]

Seb had many more bad luck as Charles. Charles has 0 dnfs which were mechanical, Seb has had 2 dnfs, which is at least 30 more points he would have. Given this approach Seb would still be ahead od Leclerc by about 10 points. Some of people here are blind to say he is faster than Seb. Yes in some races he was, but Seb in general is still slightly faster. End of the story. You saw the races yourself, statistics tells the whole story.

Charles was very clumsy in Baku, Monaco, Japan, and Austria, Germany and some more. Seb in GB, Brasil, Bahrain. Too many mistakes by both of drivers and Charles is not a rookie.

Every driver has his own lows & highs. We need to support both our drivers currently along with the team.
Just think if we have a strong car, we have two strong drivers who can take title challenge with Ham & mercs. Not like Bottas or Albon who just drive for their seat.

If we can put Ham & mercs under pressure from both ends then it will be interesting to see ham approach & merc team reaction. It’s been easy for Ham all these years, although he did drive very well but he had lot of support from his team-mate.

[tifosi1993]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKjD-i-XUAEXc28.png:large

[Brembo]

It's amazing how Abu Dhabi passed the season with temps in the 100s F. and now come race time there, it's freezing over in the 70s and 80s F. Is Ferrari behind this? The FIA will probably check it out. A Charles , or Seb win will help us fans make it through the winter break!

[nani_s23]

Any live streaming links ....kindly

[tifosi1993]

Leclerc on 15 laps old soft tyres, Vettel on 7 laps old, Hamilton and Verstappen on brand new softs.

[nani_s23]

Leclerc on 15 laps old soft tyres, Vettel on 7 laps old, Hamilton and Verstappen on brand new softs.

Why are they doing lap times on Old soft tyres ???

[tifosi1993]

Why are they doing lap times on Old soft tyres ???

Because they used one extra sets of soft tyres during yesterday's FP2 qualifying sim. Pretty understandable, since it is a night race.

[Rishu]

Leclerc flying, lost time in S3

[tifosi1993]

Oh look, we are sill topping the speed-trap.

[nani_s23]

Because they used one extra sets of soft tyres during yesterday's FP2 qualifying sim. Pretty understandable, since it is a night race.

Oh ok.... seems like Merc & RB are flying. We are 3rd best here.
Same old issue S3, tyres getting overheated

[tifosi1993]

Oh ok.... seems like Merc & RB are flying. We are 3rd best here.
Same old issue S3, tyres getting overheated

On mediums, only 3 tenths behind Mercedes who are on softs.

[nani_s23]

On mediums, only 3 tenths behind Mercedes who are on softs.

We did our lap times on mediums ???
This auto sport site S***... it’s always Ham for them. They aren’t showing lap times & what tyres ferrari were using

[tifosi1993]

We did our lap times on mediums ???

Yup.

Hamilton, new softs, 1:36.640
Bottas, new softs, 1:36.655
Verstappen, new softs, 1:36.729
Albon, new softs, 1:36.927
Vettel, new mediums, 1:36.975
Leclerc, new mediums, 1:37.010

Ferrari yet to run on brand new soft tyres.

[nani_s23]

Yup.

Hamilton, new softs, 1:36.640
Bottas, new softs, 1:36.655
Verstappen, new softs, 1:36.729
Albon, new softs, 1:36.927
Vettel, new mediums, 1:36.975
Leclerc, new mediums, 1:37.010

Ferrari yet to run on brand new soft tyres.

Ok thanks :thumb

[Tifoso Svedese]

If we're within three and a half tenths on a hot track on mediums that don't grip at all in S3 on one lap - we should be flying on softs in qualifying.

[nhiepka]

can we hope?

[tifosi1993]

Entirely pointless practice session. What's the logic behind having two practice session's under day light when both quali and race will be held under night time with cooler track condition.

Best sectors (top 6):

Sector 1:
Leclerc 17.075 (medium tyre)
Verstappen 17.080
Vettel 17.085 (medium tyre)
Albon 17.217
Bottas 17.252
Hamilton 17.284

Sector 2:
Verstappen 41.255
Leclerc 41.277 (medium tyre)
Vettel 41.313 (medium tyre)
Bottas 41.369
Hamilton 41.425
Albon 41.537

Sector 3:
Hamilton 37.747
Bottas 38.014
Albon 38.027
Verstappen 38.213
Vettel 38.577 (medium tyre)
Leclerc 38.649 (medium tyre)

[PURE PASSION]

Is it sure that we where on mediums???
I didnt watch fp3 but I read now 1-2 articles olabiut results and none mention it ??!!!

[tifosi1993]

Is it sure that we where on mediums???
I didnt watch fp3 but I read now 1-2 articles olabiut results and none mention it ??!!!

It is.

[PURE PASSION]

It is.

:thumb thanks !!!!

[nhiepka]

I have seen all teams whom ran Ferrari PU in FP3 were slower than FP2, so that is strategy or..

[PURE PASSION]

I have seen all teams whom ran Ferrari PU in FP3 were slower than FP2, so that is strategy or..

Everybody where slower in FP3 . Bottas yesterday did a 1:36:2 while now did a 1:36:6

[nani_s23]

Everybody where slower in FP3 . Bottas yesterday did a 1:36:2 while now did a 1:36:6

Bottas too on mediums I think

[nani_s23]

Fight for pole between Ham/Max/Lec I think so.

[tifosi1993]

Ferrari were the only team who didn't run with new softs during FP3, everyone else set their fastest time on new sets of soft tyres.

[Noquarter]

Vettel again :-)

[tifosi1993]

Rookie mistake, wasted a set of softs.

[Vettel165]

Spinmaster.

[TonyRizza]

i bet vettel cant wait for this year to be over lol

[Noquarter]

i bet vettel cant wait for this year to be over lol

2020 will be even more tough for him

[PURE PASSION]

I'm afraid we have no chance. We just lose SO much in S3!!!! And here is the question. Everybody is talking about how fast we where on straights and that we lost this edge in the last 2-3 races, BUT i see that we didnt lose anything on the straights (power wise) but we are again so poor in the corners. We look like pre Singapore form. After Singapore update we where quite strong in the corners, almost muching Merc and Redbull and still keep out superiority in the straights. Now we look like we are again in our pre summer form???!!!!!!!

[Tifoso Svedese]

I think the faster the track will be, the faster our car will get since S3 will just grip up more and more. In Singapore we got better and better the further qualifying went.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Definitely no party mode in order to improve later on mediums.

[tifosi1993]

Leclerc stonking sector 2: 40.521, but lost nearly 6 tenths to Hamilton in sector 3.

[ChrisFerrari]

a Mercedes hammering for the last race. That sums the year up pretty well.

[tifosi1993]

Leclerc now out on new mediums, Vettel on softs.

Edit: *New mediums*

[Tifoso Svedese]

Leclerc now out on old mediums, Vettel on softs.

That's just random and stupid.

[tifosi1993]

So....Leclerc will start the race on mediums.

[wappad]

So....Leclerc will start the race on mediums.

:thumb

[PURE PASSION]

Leclerc now out on old mediums, Vettel on softs.

I think they change it .He was on new mediums

[tifosi1993]

I think they change it .He was on new mediums

Yes. Live timing was bit late updating the tyre graph

[paolo lalli]

Usual suspects leading.Bring on 2020 last race is going to be a test mule for Ferrari there is really nothing to play for and as binotto has said 2nd is not good enough for Ferrari.The fire works will be the high lite of the event.The year summed up as more home work needed with more concentration to detail.Pass mark B-.

[Vettel165]

Why isnt Seb on medium. The team again doing a bad job. He will destroy this tyres tomorrow. Others on much better tyres.

[tifosi1993]

Hamilton looks unbeatable, But Leclerc can qualify on P2.

[PURE PASSION]

Oh that S3 !!!!!:furious

[Tifoso Svedese]

Beaten by Honda at sea level?

This is disgusting. No front row = no race for me. No point.

[ChrisFerrari]

I don't really understand. Singapore and Abu Dhabi look similar and we were fast in Singapore, seemed to have corrected the issues in the corners. So what now? Overheating?

[Christopher]

Why send the cars out so late

[tifosi1993]

Ferrari....:rotfl:furious

[Tifoso Svedese]

Season over. I'm out. See you in March.

This is beyond pathetic. Front row chance completely thrown away by the absolute tards at the pitwall.

[TonyRizza]

ferrari once again a total embarrassment

[Noquarter]

Vettel slows down Charles. What a idiot.

[bondilad]

Just what we needed..:furious

[tifosi1993]

And some here will probably still defend the pit-wall. They're the worst interms of track management, even Williams are better at managing the track-operation.

[paolo lalli]

Like I said B- and lucky to get that complete imbachille.

[ChrisFerrari]

Season over. I'm out. See you in March.

This is beyond pathetic. Front row chance completely thrown away by the absolute tards at the pitwall.

Never had the chance for the front row. Its P3 and P4 for tomorrow as well. At maximum.

[ferenc_k]

Vettel slows down Charles. What a idiot.

Albon slowed down Vettel. This is why he was so slow on his last lap.

[Christopher]

We sent both cars out 10 seconds after everyone else. Seb caught Albon and had to slow down and started the lap right behind of him ruining his Sector 1 and Charles missed the flag. Just sums up this season

[Rishu]

Embarrassing

[Tifoso Svedese]

Never had the chance for the front row. Its P3 and P4 for tomorrow as well. At maximum.

Charles could've been P2 with Bottas' penalty but was denied a lap by the complete tools directing strategy. We'd won Mexico with ease had I directed strategy and ordered Vettel to leave an undercut-proof gap to Leclerc and running Charles longer in the first stint. That was just the peak of the stupidity this year, but this was definitely up there.

Are they actively trying to get Charles to leave so the Ham-joke would dare come or something and we'd be stuck with an ageing, PR disaster political activist during his twilight years? This is just absolute insane garbage. How they've managed to turn seven poles into just two wins for Charles this year is beyond me.

[tifosi1993]

Vettel slows down Charles. What a idiot.

Because Albon slowed down ahead of Vettel. They left the pit-wall at around 2m08's mark with Albon only 3 seconds ahead of Vettel, and Leclerc being 5 seconds behind Vettel.

Ferrari's pit-wall is a clown show, and it has been like that the whole year.

[nani_s23]

Bad management by pit wall. Ruined vettel & Lec Laps.
At least tomorrow we are on Softs at the start should take both Ham & Max. From then Lec/vettel should manage the pace

[ALO]

Once again in front of Piero. Guess nothing learned from this qual. https://youtu.be/5UTD-AqCn-s

[tifosi1993]

Embarrassing

ThErE's NoThInG wRoNg WiTh ThE PiT-WaLl.

[ALO]

Why send the cars out so late

:Hmm exactly

[nani_s23]

Vettel slows down Charles. What a idiot.

Seriously, you are always ready to get on top of vettel. Seems a particular agenda for you.

[Vettel165]

Omg team. What are they doing. First they put Seb on the worst tyres he will destroy them in s3 and then this at the end. Feel for Charles really could improve. Even Seb tyres werent in range.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Omg team. What are they doing. First they put Seb on the worst tyres he will destroy them in s3 and then this at the end. Feel for Charles really could improve. Even Seb tyres werent in range.

Vettel on softs is a sitting duck tomorrow and won't stand any chance of a podium. In fact, the way our strategy is working I'm not even sure Charles can hold off the Bottler tomorrow. This is just so pathetic all round.

The only hope again is the Ham-joke and Crashtappen coming together and sadly that never seems to happen :-! Even when it does the 44 primadonna keeps rolling (Mexico).

[nani_s23]

Omg team. What are they doing. First they put Seb on the worst tyres he will destroy them in s3 and then this at the end. Feel for Charles really could improve. Even Seb tyres werent in range.

Off late I’ve been saying it’s S3 always for Ferrari. Never been a strong track for them this one.
Good that season ended. Bad that it’s ended on bad note with error from team.

They need to correct all these come next season.

[nani_s23]

Vettel on softs is a sitting duck tomorrow and won't stand any chance of a podium. In fact, the way our strategy is working I'm not even sure Charles can hold off the Bottler tomorrow. This is just so pathetic all round.

The only hope again is the Ham-joke and Crashtappen coming together and sadly that never seems to happen :-!

Ferrari don’t have any option... so gone for it. I’m ok with that call.
But wts wrong is delay in sending our drivers out on final run.

[tifosi1993]

Race engineers are the vital part of the team, they motivate the driver and bring the best out of them. Ferrari on the other hand, employs race engineers who sounds like robot (Plan A, B,..X.Y..etc) and shows zero emotions. I would be pretty depressed hearing such monotone voice over the team-radio if I were the driver.

This team need complete overhaul at track operations, they need to fire Rueda and employ someone who's competent enough.

[tifosi1993]

Bad management by pit wall. Ruined vettel & Lec Laps.
At least tomorrow we are on Softs at the start should take both Ham & Max. From then Lec/vettel should manage the pace

Vettel still managed to do his final lap, although it was pretty slow with only personal best in sector 3. Leclerc on the other hand got completely screwed.
With Bottas's penalty, Charles had the pace to qualify on P2 today.

[bondilad]

Bad management by pit wall. Ruined vettel & Lec Laps.
At least tomorrow we are on Softs at the start should take both Ham & Max. From then Lec/vettel should manage the pace

Charles is starting on mediums

[nani_s23]

Vettel still managed to do his final lap, although it was pretty slow with only personal best in sector 3. Leclerc on the other hand got completely screwed.
With Bottas's penalty, Charles had the pace to qualify on P2 today.

Yup agree.

[nani_s23]

Charles is starting on mediums

Then I see Lec either P2/P3 at max. Ham’s long run pace is excellent. I don’t think we can challenge him.
Vettel will be in no mans land tmrw.
Only hope is Max vs Ham battle/crash.

Ham didn’t have single DNF this season & last I think so. Great drive from him & his bullet proof car.

[bondilad]

Then I see Lec either P2/P3 at max. Ham’s long run pace is excellent. I don’t think we can challenge him.
Vettel will be in no mans land tmrw.
Only hope is Max vs Ham battle/crash.

Ham didn’t have single DNF this season & last I think so. Great drive from him & his bullet proof car.

Best case P2 & P4. Not sure if Bottas might come into play or not.

[doublesixes]

Ham is way too smart to crash with Ver in the opening lap. His pace through the race is superior to RB and Ferrari so even if he relinquished the lead in the first lap, he'll regain it after the first pitstop. Easy win for Ham to put an end to a miserable Ferrari season.

[nani_s23]

Ham is way too smart to crash with Ver in the opening lap. His pace through the race is superior to RB and Ferrari so even if he relinquished the lead in the first lap, he'll regain it after the first pitstop. Easy win for Ham to put an end to a miserable Ferrari season.

Yeah ... totally agree with you.
Change in ham this season is his race pace with better tyre management. That’s giving him lot of options from team.
That mercs is very good race car combined with Ham skills. They are enjoying the moments. Hope this is the last for them.

[Vettel165]

The 2017 Seb until Singapore was absolutely mighty. Keeping the lead in the world championship in a second best car in Front of Lewis. That was the real Seb, than Malaysia and Japan with mechanical dnfs happened which breaked the team spirit and also Seb.

[stefa]

I completely forgot about today's Q. I see that I didn't miss anything!

[chinmay]

The 2017 Seb until Singapore was absolutely mighty. Keeping the lead in the world championship in a second best car in Front of Lewis. That was the real Seb, than Malaysia and Japan with mechanical dnfs happened which breaked the team spirit and also Seb.

Vettel was mighty that whole year. Just look at the gap between himself and Kimi in qualifying sessions even after Singapore. In Mexico, Red Bull and Mercedes were going very strong all weekend, Vettel out of nowhere stormed to pole, 8 tenths faster than Kimi! Peak Vettel is unstoppable and unbeatable. A shade of that was seen this year in Canadian qualifying and Japanese qualifying.

Hamilton who was driving a faster Mercedes was made to look like a complete amateur by Vettel in 2017. Even in Baku after all that happened, with that massive Mercedes engine advantage against very weak Ferrari engine, he asked team to slow down Bottas so he can overtake Vettel. :lol

It was looking very good this year in winter testing when after day 1, Vettel declared that this was the best day 1 of testing he has ever had. Then the season started and the car turned out to be a dud. After Russia, Mark Hughes had written an article talking about various points of this car and Vettel's driving style and called it the worst of both worlds for Seb. One thing he also said was that Vettel would absolutely love the current Red Bull driven by Verstappen.

If only the 2018 engine was in the 2017 car, Vettel would've been champion by a country mile.

Let's see what 2020 holds. Testing was completely unrepresentative this time around so we will have to wait till Australia to see if the car is anything like 2017 or not. Because with the current problems, they must be missing SF70-H.

[chinmay]

I completely forgot about today's Q. I see that I didn't miss anything!

I only watched it because it was the last qualifying of 2019.

[wappad]

I completely forgot about today's Q. I see that I didn't miss anything!

I don't believe you ;-)

[wisepie]

Race engineers are the vital part of the team, they motivate the driver and bring the best out of them. Ferrari on the other hand, employs race engineers who sounds like robot (Plan A, B,..X.Y..etc) and shows zero emotions. I would be pretty depressed hearing such monotone voice over the team-radio if I were the driver.

This team need complete overhaul at track operations, they need to fire Rueda and employ someone who's competent enough.

Agreed and it happens far too often that any 'risks' taken by the pit wall/track engineers backfire on us, with this kind of gamble we're never going to outdo a well-oiled machine like the Merc or even Red Bull teams, even the lower teams manage better than ours. I'm also curious as to the drop-off in performance of the Haas and Alfa teams in quali, as well as our own apparent loss of outright performance, referred to by Brundle in quali. Have the Ferrari power units really and truly had their wings clipped but it's being quietly swept under the carpet, or just the attempts to make the car better in the twisty bits? Whatever the reason, it's not working on this circuit, and I don't believe Seb had anything to do with Charles missing his last Q3 run. The race should be interesting if nothing else as far as our drivers are concerned, on different strategies, but having Max and HAM in front is never a happy prospect.:roll

[nani_s23]

In Q2 Charles asked for medium tyres in final q2 run.
Good to see Charles taking the calls.

[nani_s23]

Charles ends the season with 7 poles more than any other driver. :clap
Great start to his career.

[Nick Singer]

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[Nick Singer]

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[tifosi1993]

Agreed and it happens far too often that any 'risks' taken by the pit wall/track engineers backfire on us, with this kind of gamble we're never going to outdo a well-oiled machine like the Merc or even Red Bull teams, even the lower teams manage better than ours. I'm also curious as to the drop-off in performance of the Haas and Alfa teams in quali, as well as our own apparent loss of outright performance, referred to by Brundle in quali. Have the Ferrari power units really and truly had their wings clipped but it's being quietly swept under the carpet, or just the attempts to make the car better in the twisty bits? Whatever the reason, it's not working on this circuit, and I don't believe Seb had anything to do with Charles missing his last Q3 run. The race should be interesting if nothing else as far as our drivers are concerned, on different strategies, but having Max and HAM in front is never a happy prospect.:roll

The race may get interesting, but I'm afraid it's not going to be a happy race for Ferrari. They are giving away too much time in sector 3, and our cars race pace is worse than it's qualifying pace. Hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see us finishing above P3. (And if there is a late safety car, and Bottas by that time cleared the midfield, he will definitely finish ahead of Ferrari)

As for engine power, we are still (https://streamable.com/1u4z5) faster on straights. But the main problem, as it has been all year, is the aero. Ferrari's entry speed is just too low compared to Mercedes. Leclerc was more than 3 tenths faster on the straights, but Hamilton easily clawed back the deficit through turn 9 and 10. And Ferrari had no answer to Mercedes's pace in sector 3.

[tifosi1993]

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I can definitely picture Ferrari "strategy(if you can call that:rotfl)" tomorrow.
Start: Vettel, being on softs, may get better launch and end up ahead of Leclerc. But after certain amount of laps, Vettel will start losing tyre grip, and Leclerc will be on Vettel's tail. Leclerc, due to being on dirty air, will start overheating his tyres. But the clowns at the pit-wall, rather than imposing team-order, will do nothing and Leclerc will keep on losing time to the cars ahead, unless he manages to overtake Vettel (which is a big risk). And after, another certain amount of laps, Ferrari will pit Vettel, and by that time, Leclerc's tyres already way past their best. But they will keep Leclerc on track, thanks to their pre-race strategy plan (A,B,C...whatever you call it). And by the time they pit Leclerc, he will come out behind Vettel and the gap to him, and the cars ahead, will be bigger than they were before.

If Leclerc, makes a better start and manages to hold track position, then we can ignore the above scenario. Hopefully, he will keep his track position at the start, and who knows, may jump Max at the start.

[ChrisFerrari]

As we have zero chance to win this race tomorrow, I hope Charles beats the ***** out of Seb and we can see a close battle btw Max and Lewis in front.

[Vettel165]

As we have zero chance to win this race tomorrow, I hope Charles beats the ***** out of Seb and we can see a close battle btw Max and Lewis in front.

??? This is a provoking post in a ferrari forum. Hope Seb beats the **** of his team mate.

[Brembo]

So last race was OK by some fans here? Neither driver beat the other. :rotfl The races with the up front drivers fighting are great. Be it strategy, car , driver or all together, the excitement of a close race is great for F-1 !

[Lesky]

I was shocked when Leclerc said Ferrari were back to where they wanted last race, if not for the safety cars we would finish 30 seconds behind the Verstappen and Lewis...not exactly ideal. Ferrari have no race pace at all. When the qualy sweet spot went up in smoke, we are back to being a non-factor again sadly.

[Vettel165]

In f2 race tyres falled quickly off the cliff. Seb in trouble again on softs.

[ChrisFerrari]

In f2 race tyres falled quickly off the cliff. Seb in trouble again on softs.

I dont want to sound obnoxious but seriously, who cares? If he started on the mediums, would it make any difference? We dont have the race pace to fight for the win, so Charles and Seb will most probably fight each other for the podium. If there's a safety car period, then not even for the podium as Bottas will easily catch up. Our only chance is to go for the hard tyre but thats miles down on pace compared to how mighty Mercs seemed on the softs.

[Vettel165]

Softs-hards are the quickest strategy. I dont believe that. How it is the fastest when you came out in pure traffic. Yeah the season is over and thank god it is its been an absolute nightmare.

https://i.postimg.cc/tJR83bxm/EKs-JPqm-W4-AE75p2.png (https://postimages.org/)

[FerrariF60]

I dont want to sound obnoxious but seriously, who cares? If he started on the mediums, would it make any difference? We dont have the race pace to fight for the win, so Charles and Seb will most probably fight each other for the podium. If there's a safety car period, then not even for the podium as Bottas will easily catch up. Our only chance is to go for the hard tyre but thats miles down on pace compared to how mighty Mercs seemed on the softs.

Exactly, who the $&#@ cares? I sure don’t, seasons over mate....it has been over since Australia....
Seb,s been nowhere since the beginning and Ferrari were nowhere with their low drag concept....

To be fast you neeed to downforce to go around corners quick, and not just in straightline.....all tracks have corners, this is not NASCAR racing

[evo_spook]

You not got the latest?

Ferrari and Leclerc could be in trouble here: “The fuel declaration of car number 16 was checked before the car left the pit-lane. There was a significant difference between the declaration of the team and the amount of fuel inside the car.” 1/2 #F1

https://twitter.com/ChrisMedlandF1/status/1201116132482146304

[tifosi1993]

You not got the latest?

Ferrari and Leclerc could be in trouble here: “The fuel declaration of car number 16 was checked before the car left the pit-lane. There was a significant difference between the declaration of the team and the amount of fuel inside the car.” 1/2 #F1

https://twitter.com/ChrisMedlandF1/status/1201116132482146304

Just typical Ferrari things....good god, how many times are they gonna **** up? Bunch of circus clowns.

If Leclerc is found guilty, he will get DSQ after the race.

I guess that's what happen when you don't employ the best people available, and only focus on their nationality. The whole "Ferrari need to be more Italian" thing really screwed this team.

[Vettel165]

Unbelivable really. Feel for Charles. Hope no penalty.

The team is falling apart.

[evo_spook]

Unbelivable really. Feel for Charles. Hope no penalty.

The team is falling aparat.

Maybe FIA will,
on podium, fine
Off podium DSQ

[FerrariF60]

Maybe FIA will,
on podium, fine
Off podium DSQ

So yet another #$#& UP by Ferrari.....way to go
Just when one thinks that Ferrari can’t be any worse, they come up with another brainfart....looks good on you FERRARI