2020 Australian GP: Practices & Qualifying

[chinmay]

About time. A little over 72 hours left for the first F1 session of 2020 season to start.

[FerrariF60]

I wonder if Ferrari will continue with its sandbagging throughout all 3 free practices along with Binotto still downplaying Ferrari’s pace being behind the Mercs and then come second run in Q3, BOOM, Ferrari takes Pole.....wishful thinking I know

[chinmay]

I wonder if Ferrari will continue with its sandbagging throughout all 3 free practices along with Binotto still downplaying Ferrari’s pace being behind the Mercs and then come second run in Q3, BOOM, Ferrari takes Pole.....wishful thinking I know

Unfortunately Binotto never lies and always tells the truth in detail. He had said earlier, Ferrari will not be a Mercedes beater in Melbourne but could be from the whole season's perspective.

[ferrari1.8t]

I wonder if Ferrari will continue with its sandbagging throughout all 3 free practices along with Binotto still downplaying Ferrari’s pace being behind the Mercs and then come second run in Q3, BOOM, Ferrari takes Pole.....wishful thinking I know

I wish for the same; however, if Ferrari have that kind of pace come Q3 you can bet on the fact that Wolf and Co. will be crying to the FIA almost immediately. Ferrari being competitive and actually pushing Hamilton = ILLEGAL LOL

The Ferrari powered teams should protest Mercedes’ DAS system and Copying Point’s RP20. Time for Ferrari to flex some muscle.

[FerrariF60]

I wish for the same; however, if Ferrari have that kind of pace come Q3 you can bet on the fact that Wolf and Co. will be crying to the FIA almost immediately. Ferrari being competitive and actually pushing Hamilton = ILLEGAL LOL

The Ferrari powered teams should protest Mercedes’ DAS system and Copying Point’s RP20. Time for Ferrari to flex some muscle.

i;m with you on those points....but sadly Ferrari have lost it's "balls" thta they had from back in the dream team days....ross brown, jean todt....etc
even Sergio M. had some balls of steel (may his soul rest in peace).....this new leader we have now....kind of spineless jelly fish...

[paolo lalli]

Turn f1 on its head just like the rest of the world.

[wisepie]

Italy being more or less in complete lock-down from last night may impact the Italy-based teams if revised parts or engines are needed as well as not having the personnel on site if any of them contract the virus. I don't see how it can be a level playing field if Ferrari/Alfa/Haas or Alpha Tauri (stupid name) are affected in this manner. But then our engines are deemed illegal by other teams so maybe we should just wait and see if Bahrain goes ahead with no spectators, it might as well be a virtual world championship with HAM or Max declared the winner before it starts.:-E

[KimiBot]

About time. A little over 72 hours left for the first F1 session of 2020 season to start.

:cheers

[nani_s23]

My prediction-
Pole position: Hamilton
Race winner: Anybody

[stefa]

Italy being more or less in complete lock-down from last night may impact the Italy-based teams if revised parts or engines are needed as well as not having the personnel on site if any of them contract the virus. I don't see how it can be a level playing field if Ferrari/Alfa/Haas or Alpha Tauri (stupid name) are affected in this manner. But then our engines are deemed illegal by other teams so maybe we should just wait and see if Bahrain goes ahead with no spectators, it might as well be a virtual world championship with HAM or Max declared the winner before it starts.:-E

I now there is a huge amount of money, and where is huge amount of money there is no logic, just profit. All this is getting out of hand and I think they should just cancel this year F1 season!

[Greig]

I now there is a huge amount of money, and where is huge amount of money there is no logic, just profit. All this is getting out of hand and I think they should just cancel this year F1 season!

I think we will have the Aus GP then the next 4 or 5 will be cancelled at least.

[wisepie]

I now there is a huge amount of money, and where is huge amount of money there is no logic, just profit. All this is getting out of hand and I think they should just cancel this year F1 season!

There is no F1 without Ferrari for me, I just hope and pray that Italy can control this virus, otherwise the season is a waste of time, money and effort, not to mention the health issues. If Greig is right and they cancel subsequent races after Melbourne and Bahrain, at least my blood pressure will be under control.:roll

[stefa]

There is no F1 without Ferrari for me, I just hope and pray that Italy can control this virus, otherwise the season is a waste of time, money and effort, not to mention the health issues. If Greig is right and they cancel subsequent races after Melbourne and Bahrain, at least my blood pressure will be under control.:roll

https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/28863601/bahrain-grand-prix-take-place-closed-doors

[Greig]

https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/28863601/bahrain-grand-prix-take-place-closed-doors

Yeah but we have the Italian teams and Pirelli who are now going to find it hard to come and go from Italy.

[nani_s23]

There is no F1 without Ferrari for me, I just hope and pray that Italy can control this virus, otherwise the season is a waste of time, money and effort, not to mention the health issues. If Greig is right and they cancel subsequent races after Melbourne and Bahrain, at least my blood pressure will be under control.:roll

Yup F1 is ferrari...!!

I hope this out break would get stopped. People should be safe.
Coming to raves, yes it’s better to cancel rather than keep everyone in dilemma. As lots of amount is invested into developments & promotions etc.
also to be noted, this year teams are focused on 2021 development programme in parallel.
As in Italy it’s a complete shut down, most effected team would be Ferrari & Pirelli. So there’s no point running F1 in a handicapped way.

[vcs316]

Yeah but we have the Italian teams and Pirelli who are now going to find it hard to come and go from Italy.

Pirelli manufactures its tyres in Turkey:

The grand prix rubber is exclusively made in Izmit, Turkey: the location of Pirelli's high-tech competition tyre facility. The research and development of the tyres takes place in Milan.

Unsure of how Ferrari and Toro Rosso are going to deal with travel..

[jgonzalesm6]

Renaults "new livery" for 2020 plus new title sponsor unvieled.

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[jgonzalesm6]

Coronavirus related

A member of McLaren’s Formula One team is in self-isolation at the team’s Melbourne hotel after being tested for coronavirus. Two personnel from American outfit Haas have been tested and are also in self-isolation

[jgonzalesm6]

Someone wrote this in the sky of Sydney.....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESzJa9GUcAI-VqN.jpg

[stefa]

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/148608/three-f1-team-members-tested-for-coronavirus

[nani_s23]

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/148608/three-f1-team-members-tested-for-coronavirus

This China is spreading it all over the world ....!!
People thinking “everything is made in China, our death is also made in China”.
Such a pathetic situation.

[stefa]

This China is spreading it all over the world ....!!
People thinking “everything is made in China, our death is also made in China”.
Such a pathetic situation.

Thank God it is made in China. Image if it was genuine? :lol

[nani_s23]

Thank God it is made in China. Image if it was genuine? :lol

:lol

[vcs316]

Thank God it is made in China. Image if it was genuine? :lol

:clap:rotfl:clap

[jgonzalesm6]

"So it's not just members from Haas (2), Mclaren (1), Williams (1) that had signs of a cold and had to undergo a test...

"There are said to be people at Ferrari and Alpha Tauri who complain of signs of a cold. They will also have to go to a doctor.."

[paolo lalli]

When china can make a great f1 car then I will take them seriously with out copying like they do most things then they are fakes.Thanks china for the corona virus and sars disease etc etc.now those are the genuine Article 100 % made in China.

[Schumiklub]

Vietnamese GP set to be postponed.


https://www.gpfans.com/en/articles/50740/report-vietnam-grand-prix-set-to-be-postponed/?fbclid=IwAR0Zm-i2qFzKDqhi5eojWlF7chQr2pN5Y3LdVMFLbcGyo7yQvQ1q51kr 6RM


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[vcs316]

Vietnamese GP set to be postponed.


https://www.gpfans.com/en/articles/50740/report-vietnam-grand-prix-set-to-be-postponed/?fbclid=IwAR0Zm-i2qFzKDqhi5eojWlF7chQr2pN5Y3LdVMFLbcGyo7yQvQ1q51kr 6RM


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This was bound to happen despite the officials saying the race will run as per schedule. Human lives are more important than any F1 race/season.

[Kyss4k]

Poll idea... what number of races will we actually see this year?

[nani_s23]

Poll idea... what number of races will we actually see this year?

4 races & Mercs will be declared WCC & Hamilton 7th title.

[jgonzalesm6]

Poll idea... what number of races will we actually see this year?

95% of them we will see this year.......too much money involved.

[tifosi1993]

https://i.redd.it/b2nc5dp5z0m41.jpg

[nani_s23]

95% of them we will see this year.......too much money involved.

50% of races will be without fans, may be behind closed doors.

[MSForever]

Chase Carey & Jean Todt sent a letter to Ferrari opponents defending the confidential agreement. Todt claims he supported the thorough FIA engine investigation. The 7 non Ferrari teams will meet Friday at Melbourne to discuss next steps.

[jgonzalesm6]

Race Stewards

Dr Gerd Ennser
Dennis Dean
Emanuele Pirro [Drivers Representative]
Matthew Selley [National Steward]

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[jgonzalesm6]

AMuS

Mercedes made modifications to rear brake ducts after FIA TD. And they decided to use the new DAS system at #AUSGP despite protest threats by Red Bull. Engineers expect the protest to be lodged either after quali or race for max damage.

[nani_s23]

AMuS

Mercedes made modifications to rear brake ducts after FIA TD. And they decided to use the new DAS system at #AUSGP despite protest threats by Red Bull. Engineers expect the protest to be lodged either after quali or race for max damage.

Ferrari won’t join the protest ??

[jgonzalesm6]

Ferrari won’t join the protest ??

No

[stefa]

No

?:-E

[JPMFerrari]

Poll idea... what number of races will we actually see this year?

Because of the city circuit I can see Monaco being cancelled.

[paolo lalli]

This year's calender for f1 can go in the bin the entire season has been compromised by the virus fi is in a very difficult position.The health and safety of all should be the only vehicle on the starting grid.

[JHAMMER]

Redbull bitches about everything that anyone else comes up with, because everything they do is above board and legal no gray areas.


Question: Are there any Ferrari fans that actually drink Redbull? And why?

[wisepie]

Ferrari won’t join the protest ??

They already have enough problems to deal with as all the non-Ferrari teams are ganging up against them over the 2019 engine, plus the corona virus blockade, so maybe better to keep a low profile! If this season ever gets going properly, at least our expectations have been floored in advance!:-E

[From Treviso]

Going by the consensus, the Ferraris would do well at Albert Park by being able to generate good downforce and tyre temp, whilst avoiding the tyre graining that usually affected their cars. Hoping for a surprise with their performance, but would be expecting the Silver Arrows to dominate just like most of us believe as well - fingers crossed for a pleasant surprise!
I live 45kms away from the track :)

[WS6TransAm01]

This year's calender for f1 can go in the bin the entire season has been compromised by the virus fi is in a very difficult position.The health and safety of all should be the only vehicle on the starting grid.

During the H1N1 pandemic between April 2009 and August 2010 203,000 people died. This outbrake covered most of the 2009 season and half the 2010 season. I don't recall races being canceled, do you. Still think you aren't being manipulated by the media?



Question: Are there any Ferrari fans that actually drink Redbull? And why?

Just finished a 12oz lol. It tastes good.

[Kyss4k]

During the H1N1 pandemic between April 2009 and August 2010 203,000 people died. This outbrake covered most of the 2009 season and half the 2010 season. I don't recall races being canceled, do you. Still think you aren't being manipulated by the media?



Just finished a 12oz lol. It tastes good.


Sure, the whole Italy is in quaratnine, all events, bars, shops except groceries has been closed, all that just for fun :) Basically all countries in Europe are canceling public events just to be cool too :)

[jgonzalesm6]

BREAKING | three more F1 team members are in quarantine due to coronavirus fears.

That's on top of the two members from Haas and one from McLaren who were placed in quarantine last night.

[512 TR]

During the H1N1 pandemic between April 2009 and August 2010 203,000 people died. This outbrake covered most of the 2009 season and half the 2010 season. I don't recall races being canceled, do you. Still think you aren't being manipulated by the media?


Dude, you're talking about a time period of one and half years during the swine flue outbreak. This Covid-19 has been known worldwide since around New Year's Day. That's what? Three plus months and look what it has done so far? You can't compare the danger because no one really knows. And it's not slowing down.

The measures taken in Sweden and Denmark for example now have never been done before. They are historical. Ban on gathering of 500 and more people (Sweden) and closing schools and universities etc (Denmark). Those are just two examples. If both countries have had F1 races, they would be cancelled.

I hate the MSM as much as the next guy but they don't know either.

[Cevertmyhero]

I don't think the race will happen :(
I'm fully expecting them to cancel it In the next 24 hrs.

[paolo lalli]

Australian f1 race bordering on cancellation.

[stefa]

Australian f1 race bordering on cancellation.

Whole season should be canceled. This is serious! Life is more precious than money!

[mizf1]

From a selfish point of view, if it does get cancelled and we are not in a position to win. At least it will not give Mercs a head start in the points.

We are getting our upgrade package for Dutch GP, with china cancelled and vietnam looking likely to get cancelled.

Until then it looks like damage limitation

[springfield]

McLaren has withdrawn from the AUS GP

[tifosi1993]

Wise decision from Mclaren. It's downright crazy and irresponsible to held this race.

[gump1480]

McLaren has withdrawn from the AUS GP

Really !! Any official link to this news ?

[springfield]

Really !! Any official link to this news ?

https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/1238062852306583552

[tifosi1993]

All four Haas team members have tested 'negative' for Covid-19.

[stefa]

https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/1238062852306583552

Vise decision. All others should follow.

[tifosi1993]

We also need to remember that this is a virus with incubation period of 14 days. And there are many reports out there of people who tested 'negative' at first, contracted the disease after few days.
Motogp has cancelled three races, Serie A got cancelled, but F1 management decided to have a race with full crowd attendance.

Also big thumbs to up Hamilton for speaking his mind and telling it how it is, for this people, who're mostly bankers anyway, "cash is king". Human lives are not that important to them.

[mizf1]

Hmmm, I wonder if this will be classed as a non championship race?

Ross Brawn did say if a team can't make it it will not be counted towards the championship. However McLaren are there and chose not to take part for their own reasons so we see how it pans out.

[mizf1]

We can maybe use the race as a test if its a not counted. try things and learn more with the car

[SashAlex]

Welp, it didn't surprise me a bit. I was kinda expecting that and they should cancel the race I think. As much as I love watching them race, this is not a time to have fun. This year is gonna be a very long and difficult one. Hope I'm wrong though.

Even if the race goes ahead, I'm pretty sure Bahrain won't go ahead as there might be more COVID-19 cases in the paddock after this race.

NBA is suspended already because of Rudy Gobert and they'll find more players, refs, people in general in and around NBA with the virus.

Be safe guys!

[FerrariF60]

We can maybe use the race as a test if its a not counted. try things and learn more with the car

Yeah, mind as well, try and understand the car a little better....we’ll see if this race is a go ahead or not

[Kyss4k]

I wonder, if the whole season will be canceled...

[FerrariF60]

I wonder, if the whole season will be canceled...

It wouldn’t surprise me if it did...at least that way Lewis wouldn’t be matching Michael this year in WDC’s

[WS6TransAm01]

Dude, you're talking about a time period of one and half years during the swine flue outbreak. This Covid-19 has been known worldwide since around New Year's Day. That's what? Three plus months and look what it has done so far? You can't compare the danger because no one really knows. And it's not slowing down.

The measures taken in Sweden and Denmark for example now have never been done before. They are historical. Ban on gathering of 500 and more people (Sweden) and closing schools and universities etc (Denmark). Those are just two examples. If both countries have had F1 races, they would be cancelled.

I hate the MSM as much as the next guy but they don't know either.

Actually, its two plus months since March isn't over and you are counting from Jan 1.

So in two and a half months we have 4,749 deaths, sounds like a lot. Roughly 1900 per month. China has already reported that they are past the peak, meaning new cases are on the decline. Now, they are dirty Commies so they could be lying, but if they are telling the truth that means, at least in China the number of deaths will begin to drop.

Compare that with H1N1 as I did earlier [203K total deaths] where over the 18 months we had 11,278 deaths per month.

You are misconstruing the difference between threat and response. Just because a government responds in a specific way, does not mean the threat warranted it. The measured you describe in Sweden and Denmark are historical, but are they proportionate to the threat or are they due to hysteria?

Using Google news, MSM mentions of COVID-19 is roughly 1.1 billion over the 2.5 months we have known about it. Compare that to 56.2 million mentions of SARS which lasted roughly 2 years. You don't think public perception is being manipulated? Perception IS reality. Politicians are not immune from this manipulation. When they make a decision to reduce public gatherings to less than 500 is it based on science which says that this virus is much less deadlier than countless others, or is it the media making us panic?

TB kills 3,014 people per day despite us having a vaccine. TB is transferred the same way as COVID-19 as an aerosol created by coughing or talking and has been around much longer. Why didn't we cancel F1 races for TB? During this outbreak we are seeing roughly 56 deaths per day from COVID-19. 56 v 3,014. No, not media hype at all.

[gvera]

Actually, its two plus months since March isn't over and you are counting from Jan 1.

So in two and a half months we have 4,749 deaths, sounds like a lot. Roughly 1900 per month. China has already reported that they are past the peak, meaning new cases are on the decline. Now, they are dirty Commies so they could be lying, but if they are telling the truth that means, at least in China the number of deaths will begin to drop.

Compare that with H1N1 as I did earlier [203K total deaths] where over the 18 months we had 11,278 deaths per month.

You are misconstruing the difference between threat and response. Just because a government responds in a specific way, does not mean the threat warranted it. The measured you describe in Sweden and Denmark are historical, but are they proportionate to the threat or are they due to hysteria?

Using Google news, MSM mentions of COVID-19 is roughly 1.1 billion over the 2.5 months we have known about it. Compare that to 56.2 million mentions of SARS which lasted roughly 2 years. You don't think public perception is being manipulated? Perception IS reality. Politicians are not immune from this manipulation. When they make a decision to reduce public gatherings to less than 500 is it based on science which says that this virus is much less deadlier than countless others, or is it the media making us panic?

TB kills 3,014 people per day despite us having a vaccine. TB is transferred the same way as COVID-19 as an aerosol created by coughing or talking and has been around much longer. Why didn't we cancel F1 races for TB? During this outbreak we are seeing roughly 56 deaths per day from COVID-19. 56 v 3,014. No, not media hype at all.

I mostly agree with you but you left one factor out and it's WHERE the deaths happen, TB kills millions a year but not in Europe.
In Italy TB kills around 450 a year and Corona has already killed more than 800 in a couple of weeks.
It sucks nobody cares about the millions that die in Africa due to TB but that's how the world works these days.

[paolo lalli]

Mc Laren f1 withdraw from fi race.chaos has started, as previously said.No team should be here end of story.

[nani_s23]

In India, first death casualty due to corona virus happened today in Bangalore city.
MNCs in Bangalore declared all the employees to take Work from home tomorrow until further notice.

[Kyss4k]

Sky says the race will be held, BBC says the race was cancelled... in few minutes we should know who is right

[Nick Singer]

Sky says the race will be held, BBC says the race was cancelled... in few minutes we should know who is right

Postponed according to the BBC.. Not 'official' yet.

[512 TR]

Actually, its two plus months since March isn't over and you are counting from Jan 1.

So in two and a half months we have 4,749 deaths, sounds like a lot. Roughly 1900 per month. China has already reported that they are past the peak, meaning new cases are on the decline. Now, they are dirty Commies so they could be lying, but if they are telling the truth that means, at least in China the number of deaths will begin to drop.

Compare that with H1N1 as I did earlier [203K total deaths] where over the 18 months we had 11,278 deaths per month.

You are misconstruing the difference between threat and response. Just because a government responds in a specific way, does not mean the threat warranted it. The measured you describe in Sweden and Denmark are historical, but are they proportionate to the threat or are they due to hysteria?

Using Google news, MSM mentions of COVID-19 is roughly 1.1 billion over the 2.5 months we have known about it. Compare that to 56.2 million mentions of SARS which lasted roughly 2 years. You don't think public perception is being manipulated? Perception IS reality. Politicians are not immune from this manipulation. When they make a decision to reduce public gatherings to less than 500 is it based on science which says that this virus is much less deadlier than countless others, or is it the media making us panic?

TB kills 3,014 people per day despite us having a vaccine. TB is transferred the same way as COVID-19 as an aerosol created by coughing or talking and has been around much longer. Why didn't we cancel F1 races for TB? During this outbreak we are seeing roughly 56 deaths per day from COVID-19. 56 v 3,014. No, not media hype at all.

Yes, only TWO plus months which actually proves my point even further. So where will we be in another month's time?

The thing you fail to understand is that you're talking about known effects and deaths because of earlier outbreaks. Those are all, more or less, accounted for. The numbers. What COVID-19 will do is anybody's guess. There is no one in the world that can predict that. Sure, someone might get lucky with the numbers and then call that "science" but that will be a lie. This is not about creating "panic", it's just a sound and logical opinion to rather be safe than sorry. The cricket game in Australia that was used as an example of "nothing happend" with +80,000 spectators now has its first corona case.

Incubation is around two weeks. McLaren have withdrawn. Do you still want the GP to take place with 300,000 in the stands? Besides, the chinese government are notorious liars. You can take what they say at face value.

[Kyss4k]

Postponed according to the BBC.. Not 'official' yet.

I'm hearing that the race was cancelled... confirmation in under an hour.

[WS6TransAm01]

I mostly agree with you but you left one factor out and it's WHERE the deaths happen, TB kills millions a year but not in Europe.
In Italy TB kills around 450 a year and Corona has already killed more than 800 in a couple of weeks.
It sucks nobody cares about the millions that die in Africa due to TB but that's how the world works these days.

That's my point! In 2009 H1N1 hid the US pretty hard but it did it receive the same mention in the American news? No. Why?

No one is saying COVID-19 isn't serious, it is. What I am saying is that why is the media driving such a panic?

[WS6TransAm01]

Yes, only TWO plus months which actually proves my point even further. So where will we be in another month's time?

The thing you fail to understand is that you're talking about known effects and deaths because of earlier outbreaks. Those are all, more or less, accounted for. The numbers. What COVID-19 will do is anybody's guess. There is no one in the world that can predict that. Sure, someone might get lucky with the numbers and then call that "science" but that will be a lie. This is not about creating "panic", it's just a sound and logical opinion to rather be safe than sorry. The cricket game in Australia that was used as an example of "nothing happend" with +80,000 spectators now has its first corona case.

Incubation is around two weeks. McLaren have withdrawn. Do you still want the GP to take place with 300,000 in the stands? Besides, the chinese government are notorious liars. You can take what they say at face value.

I already said that those Commies are lairs. No doubt.

Yes, you are right, we do have better statistics about older outbreaks. Here is one more thing we know, the death rates currently are much higher than reality because many people infected have very mild symptoms or no symptoms at all and don't seek treatment, are never tested and never entered as a data point. The more information we get, the lower the death rates are. I believe that when the dust settles the mortality rates won't me much worse than H1N1 and there was no panic then.

Again, ask yourself, why is the media trying to drive a panic? What the is purpose? Why cause the instability in the global markets?

[JuniorUS]

Redbull bitches about everything that anyone else comes up with, because everything they do is above board and legal no gray areas.


Question: Are there any Ferrari fans that actually drink Redbull? And why?

What team DOESN'T think this way? And if there ARE any who don't, then they're not trying.

[JuniorUS]

Yes, only TWO plus months which actually proves my point even further. So where will we be in another month's time?

The thing you fail to understand is that you're talking about known effects and deaths because of earlier outbreaks. Those are all, more or less, accounted for. The numbers. What COVID-19 will do is anybody's guess. There is no one in the world that can predict that. Sure, someone might get lucky with the numbers and then call that "science" but that will be a lie. This is not about creating "panic", it's just a sound and logical opinion to rather be safe than sorry. The cricket game in Australia that was used as an example of "nothing happend" with +80,000 spectators now has its first corona case.

Incubation is around two weeks. McLaren have withdrawn. Do you still want the GP to take place with 300,000 in the stands? Besides, the chinese government are notorious liars. You can take what they say at face value.

Not to straddle the fence here, but I think you're both right, and both wrong.

TransAm:
Sure this is being hyped - mostly by the media. Disaster sells papers and generates clicks. But that doesn't mean there isn't a need for caution. And comparing the death numbers to TB is apples to oranges. The TB virus is present the world over. Covid-9 is a tiny fraction of that. Sure, this is just another flu strain. What makes a "normal" flu less dangerous is that people have likely been exposed to a similar flu strain earlier in their life and have what is called "acquired immunity". The mutation that created this strain created a virus that isn't like any other recent virus. Few, if any, have this acquired immunity. That is what makes it more dangerous - and contagious.

and 512TR:
It isn't like Covid-19 is something we've never seen before. It will likely follow the same trajectory as every other "new" virus that comes along. The increase in cases doesn't necessarily mean that it's spreading out of control. In the beginning, testing is usually not available on a widespread basis. So the cases that are discovered are the more severe ones that display obvious symptoms. Thus the death rate is higher. Then, as testing becomes available, less severe cases are discovered. The cases increase, but the death rate goes down. How many items have you read lately that say someone tested positive but showed no symptoms? I've read several. Then, as proper precautions are taken among the vulnerable population, and the less vulnerable have been exposed and developed immunity, the virus runs out of a ready supply of hosts and fades.

Take proper precautions, but, in the words of Douglas Adams, "Don't Panic".

And now back to your regularly scheduled racing discussion.

[wisepie]

It looks like the Oz race is definitely going to be cancelled, not surprised by this outcome and though I am bitterly disappointed that we may have to wait until May to see the first race (if ever), at least I won't have to get up at 4am on Sunday.:-E:-s

[512 TR]

I already said that those Commies are lairs. No doubt.

Yes, you are right, we do have better statistics about older outbreaks. Here is one more thing we know, the death rates currently are much higher than reality because many people infected have very mild symptoms or no symptoms at all and don't seek treatment, are never tested and never entered as a data point. The more information we get, the lower the death rates are. I believe that when the dust settles the mortality rates won't me much worse than H1N1 and there was no panic then.

It's totally irrelevant to draw parallels to earlier epidemics as this one is unknown, in the sense where it will go. The unknown factor is what makes it better to be safe than sorry. Look what's happening in the sporting world. NHL and NBA have paused everything. EURO 2020 might not happen this year etc.


Again, ask yourself, why is the media trying to drive a panic? What the is purpose? Why cause the instability in the global markets?

As I said before, I hate the MSM as much as the next guy, and they may have their agenda, but the fact is that they don't know either where this will go. So it doesn't matter what they say and write.

One quote that stuck by me today was this one from the McLaren camp. "The decision has been taken based on the duty of care not only to McLaren F1, employees and partners, but also to the teams' competitors, F1 fans and wider F1 stakeholders". Do you understand what that means?

It might turn out that this perticular McLaren employee might have saved a huge outbreak in Australia by being sick at the right time.

[paolo lalli]

The Australian f1 race was always going to end in tears.I feel for all the fans etc etc.As the pandemic rages the value of f1 is going down the toilet 1.5 billion whipped off.I guess Bernie baby really did fall on his feet.The fia and the fi organisers have handled this poorly.This event makes the Ferrari f1 settlement look like candy.

[WS6TransAm01]

It's totally irrelevant to draw parallels to earlier epidemics as this one is unknown, in the sense where it will go. The unknown factor is what makes it better to be safe than sorry. Look what's happening in the sporting world. NHL and NBA have paused everything. EURO 2020 might not happen this year etc.


Again, mixing response with threat. Just because you observe a response [ie canceling of the NBA season] doesn't mean the threat [SARS-CoV-2] warrens those actions. H1N1 killed way more people in 2009 an none of the media outlets created this panic. Why?

Furthermore, I will state again, that the current CFR is based on skewed data. Countless people are infected but show no symptoms, nearly 80% of those who are infected a asymptomatic. This means they don't go to the doctor, don't get tested and dont get put into the formula that determines the CFR. The panic is being caused by the media, with an agenda. The reaction to the panic is what we are seeing re: events being canceled.

The current, global CFR is 3.66% and 2.84% in the US. Estimates vary widely due primarily to the accuracy of the denominator in the above. It is correct to assume that the most severe/highest risk patients are being tested which will elevate the CFR as well as the demographics and underlying risk characteristics among geographic regions. As they test more mild cases, the denominator grows and the rate or proportion decreases. There is evidence of asymptomatic disease which will affect our ability to properly test and diagnose those who are truly infected. Age is a significant risk factor (due largely to comorbid disease) as is smoking (current smoker). For example, the CFR among those 0-19 years of age is 0.1% while that in 60+ yr age group is 6%. Over age 80 is 14%. The CDC are estimating the actual CFR to be between 0.8% and 2% overall.

[Kyss4k]

It's 8am in Melbourne now, people are one their ways to the circuit and still nothing from FIA an F1 O_o

[jgonzalesm6]

The race is not OFFICIALLY cancelled.

Still pending.

[ALO]

wow this sounds very irresponsible ***? :Hmm

and I heard from another source in media onsite they would announce the first 4 races cancelled.

[ALO]

:-E

[Kyss4k]

Breaking- Chairman of the Aust GP Corp Paul Little tells me the Melb Grand Prix WILL be going ahead as planned over next three days @TheTodayShow (https://twitter.com/TheTodayShow)


https://twitter.com/ChristineAhern/status/1238209235697074176

[jgonzalesm6]

Breaking- Chairman of the Aust GP Corp Paul Little tells me the Melb Grand Prix WILL be going ahead as planned over next three days @TheTodayShow (https://twitter.com/TheTodayShow)

Saw that......

I'm gonna wait for F1 to announce it.

[Kyss4k]

According to two sources, a vote of the teams overnight over whether to continue or not came out as 5-5. Looks like Sky and BBC had some troll sources, when they said teams voted to not race.

[jgonzalesm6]

According to two sources, a vote of the teams overnight over whether to continue or not came out as 5-5. Looks like Sky and BBC had some troll sources, when they said teams voted to not race.

Cool.....thanks

[FerrariF60]

According to two sources, a vote of the teams overnight over whether to continue or not came out as 5-5. Looks like Sky and BBC had some troll sources, when they said teams voted to not race.

So when it’s 5-5 what is that mean? A GO or no GO?

[mizf1]

So is the Gp going ahead or not? I been reading conflicting info.

I also read no official accounchment as something to do with sponsors able to get a refund depending on when the event gets cancelled.

[Kyss4k]

So when it’s 5-5 what is that mean? A GO or no GO?

We don't know yet. But it has to be clear in 8 minutes I guess, as that's the time the pitlane is open for engineers

[Christopher]

Benson says Vettel and Raikkonen have flown home. (Although Benson does have a habit of being wrong so take that with a pinch of salt). There is no way the race now goes ahead. It was stupid to fly to Melbourne anyway it was so obvious that someone would have the Coronavirus and the race would be off. What a terrible look for F1.

[stefa]

Apparently it is canceled

https://www.gtplanet.net/formula-1-australian-grand-prix-under-threat-as-mclaren-withdraws/ (https://www.gtplanet.net/formula-1-australian-grand-prix-under-threat-as-mclaren-withdraws/)

[Kyss4k]

Speculation based on... I don't know what, but that's what I'm reading:

For racing: Mercedes, Red Bull, AlphaTauri, Racing Point, Williams
Against racing: McLaren, Ferrari, Renault, Alfa Romeo, Haas

[Kyss4k]

Mechanics of Alfa Romeo, Haas, Racing Point, Williams, AlphaTauri a Red Bull are in the paddock getting the cars ready

[Kyss4k]

This is all messed up. Organisers still want the race to be held, but Kimi and Seb flew home, McLaren will not be racing, teams are 50/50... poor fans

[FerrariF60]

This is all messed up. Organisers still want the race to be held, but Kimi and Seb flew home, McLaren will not be racing, teams are 50/50... poor fans

do you blame them??? htey both are family men....of course they're outta there....i would be too.....LOL

see you guys in May or june....

[Kyss4k]

do you blame them??? htey both are family men....of course they're outta there....i would be too.....LOL

see you guys in May or june....

Well I have familly too... but I still have to go to work, until I am allowed not to, or I would lose it. Guess they have the luxury not to do so.

[FerrariF60]

Well I have familly too... but I still have to go to work, until I am allowed not to, or I would lose it. Guess they have the luxury not to do so.

in all fairness, the race has been cancelled.....what are the drivers gonna do there?? stick around for what??? free corona virus???
pretty sure Bahrain will be cancelled, vietnam is....so like i said, mini vacation for the drivers and see you all in May'ish...or maybe june if we're lucky

[Kyss4k]

in all fairness, the race has been cancelled.....what are the drivers gonna do there?? stick around for what??? free corona virus???
pretty sure Bahrain will be cancelled, vietnam is....so like i said, mini vacation for the drivers and see you all in May'ish...or maybe june if we're lucky

The race was not cancelled... yet. Mechanics are in the paddock working on the cars. There is no statement yet.

[FerrariF60]

The race was not cancelled... yet. Mechanics are in the paddock working on the cars. There is no statement yet.

my understanding was that Ross Brown said a few days ago, that if ONE team doesn't make it or beign able to compete in the race....then the whole race weekend will be cancelled as it's NOT fair to that said team if all other teams go ahead and race....


so, now that Mclaren can't race because of workers actually having the Corona....well, it's NOT brain science.....the F1 show will NOT GO....

[SS454]

my understanding was that Ross Brown said a few days ago, that if ONE team doesn't make it or beign able to compete in the race....then the whole race weekend will be cancelled as it's NOT fair to that said team if all other teams go ahead and race....


so, now that Mclaren can't race because of workers actually having the Corona....well, it's NOT brain science.....the F1 show will NOT GO....

He said that if the team couldn't get to the GP due to travel restrictions. Technically McLaren are able to compete, they chose not to due to 1 man.

[FerrariF60]

He said that if the team couldn't get to the GP due to travel restrictions. Technically McLaren are able to compete, they chose not to due to 1 man.

oh, ok got you.....so let's race with NO spectators...oh, wait...one of our drivers just bailed out....LOL

cheers

[Kyss4k]

my understanding was that Ross Brown said a few days ago, that if ONE team doesn't make it or beign able to compete in the race....then the whole race weekend will be cancelled as it's NOT fair to that said team if all other teams go ahead and race....


so, now that Mclaren can't race because of workers actually having the Corona....well, it's NOT brain science.....the F1 show will NOT GO....

He didn't say that. Basically what SS454 said is true. Basically... it's a huge mess :-E

[ALO]

No announcement but fans blocked?
https://www.racefans.net/2020/03/12/fans-queue-outside-f1-track-gates-as-premier-says-they-wont-be-allowed-in/

[jgonzalesm6]

FIA just cancelled the race.

[SS454]

oh, ok got you.....so let's race with NO spectators...oh, wait...one of our drivers just bailed out....LOL

cheers

I am just stating what Ross Brawn said. McLaren did withdrawl because of 1 guy testing positive. What happened after that, well... it is what it is. I had the smallest hope that the GP would go on, that they'd find a way to control the situation, but I knew it was unlikely.

[Kyss4k]

FIA just cancelled the race.

Source?

[DefaultSettings]

Seb and Kimi on the same flight
7680

[Lesky]

Motorsport Week @MotorsportWeek
Statement from Mercedes: "The Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1 Team has today sent a letter to the FIA and F1 requesting the cancellation of the 2020 Australian Grand Prix. We no longer feel the safety of our employees can be guaranteed if we continue to take part in the event." #F1

[jgonzalesm6]

Source?


https://twitter.com/MartynMassop/status/1238234331924951040

[FerrariF60]

Motorsport Week @MotorsportWeek
Statement from Mercedes: "The Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1 Team has today sent a letter to the FIA and F1 requesting the cancellation of the 2020 Australian Grand Prix. We no longer feel the safety of our employees can be guaranteed if we continue to take part in the event." #F1

i knew it HAD TO BE Merc....lol

[Kyss4k]

https://twitter.com/MartynMassop/status/1238234331924951040

Ok, so this is it then. Good night I guess

[jgonzalesm6]

Ok, so this is it then. Good night I guess


lol.....yes....goodnight

[FerrariF60]

lol.....yes....goodnight

good night ya'll and next stop will be in May prolly....or longer if we're unlucky.....so, so SAD.....but hey, health is more important.....

[bonzo]

C A N C E L L E D.
2020 Season also??

[FerrariF60]

C A N C E L L E D.
2020 Season also??

probably....the way it's going, i wouldnt' be surprised it it gets cancelled......thank you CHINA

[FerrariF60]

so what's gonna happen to people that had tickets?? are they getting reimbursed?? or are they gonna eat the loss??

[paolo lalli]

Iam afraid to say it but it looks like a very large portion of this year's f1 calender is going to be a non event.The risks simply outweigh the benefits.These are testing times at a global level and no aspect of what goes on,on mother earth is being spared carnage every where.Thanks china 1.4 billion times.

[512 TR]

This is what happens when roughly 1 billion people (kids included) eat bats and forget about the hygiene.

If the vote truly was 5-5, I hope Ferrari voted against racing.

The new chinese national anthem below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtoMN_xi-AM

[Brembo]

Lewis in an interview said, he can't understand why the FIA and all concerned were waiting so long to cancel this race. It was wrong to even have the teams show up. One would think the opposite from him, knowing he has so much to gain each race. Well said Lewis!

[tifosi1993]

Mclaren pretty much withdrawn from Bahrain as well, all team members are under 14 days quarantine and are not allowed to enter the MTC.

I must give credit to Mclaren, seeing how they have handled the situation yesterday, and how they're handling the situation right now.

[tifosi1993]

Lewis in an interview said, he can't understand why the FIA and all concerned were waiting so long to cancel this race. It was wrong to even have the teams show up. One would think the opposite from him, knowing he has so much to gain each race. Well said Lewis!

Perks of being a 6 time world champion. He can speak his mind, and even if FOM or people in upper management gets upset they can't do anything to him.

[512 TR]

Mclaren pretty much withdrawn from Bahrain as well, all team members are under 14 days quarantine and are not allowed to enter the MTC.

I must give credit to Mclaren, seeing how they have handled the situation yesterday, and how they're handling the situation right now.

True. This would never have happened during the Ron Dennis years. He would have tried and find angle that he could exploit, the virus.

Question is, who can be sure what people any McLaren employee have been in conversation with since arriving in Melbourne? Anyone in the paddock, any other team's personnel? Some of our guys? Etc.

[theodorus8864]

This is what happens when roughly 1 billion people (kids included) eat bats and forget about the hygiene.

If the vote truly was 5-5, I hope Ferrari voted against racing.

The new chinese national anthem below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtoMN_xi-AM

Not funny, seriously. Imagine if this outbreak starts from your country.

[512 TR]

Not funny, seriously. Imagine if this outbreak starts from your country.

In that regard I don't think this is funny at all. As for the chinese and their eating culture and habbits, I will make fun of that all day long.

I've always wondered, eating at a chinese restaurant, did I get pork like I ordered or was it cat, dog, bat, snake or any other thing with substance. So I stopped eating chinese decades ago because the texture was often different. It hit me one day.

[chinmay]

Data in Italy till 4th March says the average age of more than 100 people who died was 81. Italy has the oldest population in Europe.

[chinmay]

Fatality rate in South Korea is 0.6%, fatality rate in China is 0.7% excluding Wuhan where the rate is 5.8%

[h3ro]

Horrendous job by all the organizers and Liberty Media. Complete farce.


As for the chinese and their eating culture and habbits, I will make fun of that all day long.

I've always wondered, eating at a chinese restaurant, did I get pork like I ordered or was it cat, dog, bat, snake or any other thing with substance. So I stopped eating chinese decades ago because the texture was often different. It hit me one day.

This is a disgusting sentiment.

[SS454]

Data in Italy till 4th March says the average age of more than 100 people who died was 81. Italy has the oldest population in Europe.

Link?

[chinmay]

Link?

https://www.livescience.com/why-italy-coronavirus-deaths-so-high.html

[Brembo]

That is a true figure as far as Italians over 80 being the main victims of the virus. In the USA as of Thurs. March 12, 41 deaths , almost all in retirement homes and people close to and at 80 yrs. old.

[WS6TransAm01]

SARS-CoV-2 kills primarily older people with pre-existing heath conditions, but let's scare the hell out of everyone.


probably....the way it's going, i wouldnt' be surprised it it gets cancelled......thank you CHINA

They just needed to eat bats... not enough other things to eat? You need to eat damn bats?

I guess they ate all their pigeons already, so...

[FerrariF60]

SARS-CoV-2 kills primarily older people with pre-existing heath conditions, but let's scare the hell out of everyone.



They just needed to eat bats... not enough other things to eat? You need to eat damn bats?

I guess they ate all their pigeons already, so...

Bats, snakes,rats....you name it, they will eat anything....I know I’m ranting off, but it’s true

[stefa]

Bats, snakes,rats....you name it, they will eat anything....I know I’m ranting off, but it’s true


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1598778/

[Kyss4k]

SARS-CoV-2 kills primarily older people with pre-existing heath conditions, but let's scare the hell out of everyone.



They just needed to eat bats... not enough other things to eat? You need to eat damn bats?

I guess they ate all their pigeons already, so...

It's not about what they eat, it's about how they eat it and how it is stored... Their wet markets are a thing from horror movies. Living animals next to dead meat, raw against cooked, no sanitizing, no hygiene, no soap, no... nothing. It's just animals eating animals basically, and that's why every serious virus comes from China. Someone should finally stop this thing. And they are everywhere in China.

[jgonzalesm6]

So, regarding the COVID-19 origins:

1.) Blame game going on.....China says it originated from a nearby U.S. Army base or personel. :roll :roll

2.) The more believable version was from a Chinese article that this virus was "leaked" from a Lab in the Wuhan area.

The rest of the viruses (SARS, MARS, N1H1, etc.), I really don't know how those originated.

[Greig]

SARS-CoV-2 kills primarily older people with pre-existing heath conditions.



And that makes it ok does it?

[Tony]

Bats, snakes,rats....you name it, they will eat anything....I know I’m ranting off, but it’s true

Eh paesano, you know Italians eat pigeons and quails right?

The French eat frogs legs, the Brits have haggis, and the Italians have their version, trippa…

[Tony]

And that makes it ok does it?

Especially when we all have parents and grandparents... it is very dangerous amongst the elderly and we have to do our best to contain this virus for them....

[Greig]

Especially when we all have parents and grandparents... it is very dangerous amongst the elderly and we have to do our best to contain this virus for them....

:thumb

[SS454]

Especially when we all have parents and grandparents... it is very dangerous amongst the elderly and we have to do our best to contain this virus for them....

While I agree with you we should be more wary of the dangers to elderly and of course very young children as well, but this is something to consider.

In the USA alone:

Estimated 35,520,883 cases of the flu in 2018-19.
3,073,227 (8.65%) were people 65+ years old
34,157 total deaths by flu (0.1%)
25,555 (74.8%) of those deaths were 65+ years of age

The flu has the same trend as coronavirus. However currently corono is about 1.5-3x more contagious than the flu, and the death rate is currently about 4x higher. However I don't think those figures are entirely accurate as the CDC uses estimate figures for flu, while corona is far more accurately tracked for critical/serious cases and deaths. I would bet 2-4x as many people have the virus that are not tracked yet.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2017-2018.htm

[WS6TransAm01]

And that makes it ok does it?

No, but the point is it poses little danger to the teams who are relatively healthy with little or no pre-existing conditions.

[Greig]

No, but the point is it poses little danger to the teams who are relatively healthy with little or no pre-existing conditions.

But it would take medics etc away from helping the sick because they have to attend a GP...also those team members might also you know have older people in the family that they would rather not infect...

[WS6TransAm01]

But it would take medics etc away from helping the sick because they have to attend a GP...also those team members might also you know have older people in the family that they would rather not infect...

So much soy in that statement. Okay dude. Have it your way.

[Silent Bob]

Eh paesano, you know Italians eat pigeons and quails right?

The French eat frogs legs, the Brits have haggis, and the Italians have their version, trippa…

As long as they are cooked properly...... eat away.

[Greig]

So much soy in that statement. Okay dude. Have it your way.

So it's ok for F1 people to infect the elderly as long as you get a race to watch? give it up you won't be seeing F1 for a while quite rightly.

[Silent Bob]

The problem with going all out and closing everything and basically shutting down the world..... what happens in 2 years when the next virus appears? We didn't shut down with SARS, or Avian or Swine or MERS. Precautions need to be taken but is this expected to be the new norm every time a virus comes around. Personally I think things have gone a bit too far and I think (hope) that in 2 months time we'll look back and see that this was more hype than an extinction event.

[SS454]

The problem with going all out and closing everything and basically shutting down the world..... what happens in 2 years when the next virus appears? We didn't shut down with SARS, or Avian or Swine or MERS. Precautions need to be taken but is this expected to be the new norm every time a virus comes around. Personally I think things have gone a bit too far and I think (hope) that in 2 months time we'll look back and see that this was more hype than an extinction event.

The next one will be worse. I don't think people realize the economic impact this is having and going to have.

[512 TR]

The next one will be worse. I don't think people realize the economic impact this is having and going to have.

The next one is probably going to be even worse, yes. But if asians, and especially the chinese, stop eating bats and do not become hosts and carriers for all the toxins bats carry around then it might not happen again. But them eating that perticular animal will never stop. It's been going on for centuries. It was OK when China was isolated from the world. Then David Rockefeller told Nixon and Kissinger in the early 1970s to go and visit Mao and try and open China up and they did and that's what we have now. Globalization. Their middle class, because of all the jobs transfered from the western world to them, have made it possible for them to go as tourists anywhere, and they do. Then we in the west travel the opposite way to make more business and the dance of death just goes on.

[tifosi1993]

Well...when we talk about 'the west' it mainly means the USA. You can add Germany, France, UK...and maybe Canada as well, and that's about it. And I know European countries, both eastern and western, consider themselves as part of the group known as 'the west', and on paper maybe they are, but realistically they aren't.

Take Sweden for example, pretty much irreverent on world stage. They never had the military, economy and political power to influence the world politics, nor they ever will be. They're the favorite punching bag of US conservatives...and that's about it.

China, even during 70's, was far more influential than Sweden ever was or ever be. And it was only a matter of time, considering their huge population and relatively cheap labor and manufacturing sector, they're bound to become the power house they're now today. And they will continue to become even more powerful. And it's not just China, pretty much every country from south asia to south east asia are on the rise, and Japan and South Korea, two of the Asian powerhouses, are on the decline, like their european counterparts.

[stefa]

Personaly I am not conspiracy theory guy, but you all still think this is some snake bite frog and than some guy eat that frog and become sick?! I don't think so....

[wisepie]

I wonder how many people are carrying on as normal but may be carrying the virus without realising it, the number being diagnosed as having the virus are only those who have been tested. How can the numbers quoted be in any way accurate? This whole scenario will be the end for many businesses in 2020 as well as the lives of the poor old souls who contract the virus. Losing the first half of the F1 season is disappointing and depressing but the situation is so fluid that we should be prepared for anything.:-E:-s

[FerrariF60]

Personaly I am not conspiracy theory guy, but you all still think this is some snake bite frog and than some guy eat that frog and become sick?! I don't think so....

I personally think that this virus was brewed in some lab in China....same as the ones in the past....sars, n1h2.....etc

[bondilad]

I personally think that this virus was brewed in some lab in China....same as the ones in the past....sars, n1h2.....etc

At this point it's all speculation, but there was a rumour about some of the animals (test subjects in the lab) being illegally sold to the vendors at the wuhan market instead of putting them down like they were instructed.

[rochas]

I'm sorry guys but you're talking so much nonsense. There is NO conspiracy! This event was predicted by so many people (watch Ted talk by Bill gates, also the movie contigion) it should be a question why humanity didn't do anything to prepare for this scenario. I guess it's much easier to blame and point fingers at China. I mean the bubonic plage was blamed on the Jews so we must find the culprit. An engineered virus has markers that is easily detected and covid19 has none. First rule of designing bio- weapon, have a vaccine! Otherwise, your own people are suceptible as your enemy.
We are all witnessing the biggest human experiment ever conducted. Every country is dealing with the epidemic differently. Hopefully, we'll learn from it and adapt.

Sent from my Mi A1 using Tapatalk

[512 TR]

Personaly I am not conspiracy theory guy, but you all still think this is some snake bite frog and than some guy eat that frog and become sick?! I don't think so....

There's no conspiracy, only cultural stupidity. A very long and informative article below for everyone to read.

How China’s “Bat Woman” Hunted Down Viruses from SARS to the New Coronavirus
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-chinas-bat-woman-hunted-down-viruses-from-sars-to-the-new-coronavirus1/


“Eating wildlife has been part of the cultural tradition in southern China” for thousands of years, Daszak says. “It won’t change overnight.”