Current state of F1 and opinions please

[Farid757]

Regards everyone. Been quiet for a long time but had to say something among friends.
1.Formula one is now being won by rules and regulations. When Ferrari won it was on merit when every team had a free hand in developing their car, and there was no limit to testing, just pure ability made the best team.
2. Arrogant Hamilton and Mercedes have been winning every year because teams, especially Ferrari had their hands tied by the FIA.
3. When Hamilton wins the 7th title it will hurt so much as Michael is in the state he is in. Hamilton will be a statistic, not a Fanjio, or Senna or Schumacher. Mr. Ham has won in the era of the most boring F1.
4. Is this what Ferrari wants, the 6th ranking this year out of 10 teams? Doesn’t the Scuderia have any honor or respect for the past of true racing, when they won on merit.
The stupid FIA wants to limit cost as if there is no money, what about the price of the new hyper cars that cost millions and are gobbled up in seconds?
5. Should Ferrari leave F1 and start a new free handed series without the control of the FIA, because the American racing series has become so better to watch?
6. Thank you for reading my post, and is there any sort of hope for Ferrari on the horizon?

[trim reaper]

I can’t disagree with anything you’ve written

[nani_s23]

Only two solutions
1) Ferrari should be vocal & fight for their benefits against FIA. So should need a strong leader who can drive this politically.
2) They need to restructure the team base Outside Italy & hire best talents across.

You will see the results.

[Cavallino]

It's a joke, "we need to cut costs..." ... "yeah, let's start an engine formula that is going to cost teams millions to develop"....

how many teams have we lost because of this Merc engine formula? Caterham, Marussia, Lotus, basically Force India

[patrese86]

We need the field to be competitive. I agree with cost cutting if it's going to be viable for all teams. You can't just keep making rule changes which suit one team. It feels like every subsequent rule change is made to benefit Mercedes. We have another next year with the trimmed floor. Brought in to help Pirelli but it only benefits the Mercedes and Mercedes clone. So the FIA looked at the situation and didn't see an issue with that? That everyone would lose a competitive edge except the Mercedes...

We need to be more assertive with our messaging. The likes of Camilleri, we know our brand accounts for A LOT in terms of revenue F1 make. Merchandise, TV deals etc. We need to stamp that assertiveness in the face of Liberty Media. We give them an ultimatum. We know if Ferrari entered other racing events they would take interest with them. Then let's see Formula One survive..

[tifosi1993]

Ferrari and us Ferrari fans, are going to regret Sergio Marchionne's untimely death for a long long time. That's all I have to say.

[JPZ]

Regards everyone. Been quiet for a long time but had to say something among friends.
1.Formula one is now being won by rules and regulations. When Ferrari won it was on merit when every team had a free hand in developing their car, and there was no limit to testing, just pure ability made the best team.
2. Arrogant Hamilton and Mercedes have been winning every year because teams, especially Ferrari had their hands tied by the FIA.
3. When Hamilton wins the 7th title it will hurt so much as Michael is in the state he is in. Hamilton will be a statistic, not a Fanjio, or Senna or Schumacher. Mr. Ham has won in the era of the most boring F1.
4. Is this what Ferrari wants, the 6th ranking this year out of 10 teams? Doesn’t the Scuderia have any honor or respect for the past of true racing, when they won on merit.
The stupid FIA wants to limit cost as if there is no money, what about the price of the new hyper cars that cost millions and are gobbled up in seconds?
5. Should Ferrari leave F1 and start a new free handed series without the control of the FIA, because the American racing series has become so better to watch?
6. Thank you for reading my post, and is there any sort of hope for Ferrari on the horizon?

Agree 100 %

Point 5:

Ferrari did threaten to create a rival Grand Prix World Championship in the 2000's, several times, the way F1 is going, this could be a potential option. The idea was to allow the teams to decide on the rules and have more control of the sport and receive more of the funds. Once the money in F1 starts getting less, and the viewers and sponsors decline this could start looking like an option to other teams as well.

Right now, the sport is run by a media advertising company and people who don't really seem to have an understanding of what F1 and motor racing is about, and who seem to have a political agenda as well instead of being neutral. It is also coming across as there being a very close relationship between the FIA and Mercedes leadership.

Ferrari have said they are interested in competing in IndyCar and I hope they do. It would make sense, as the US is a huge market for their cars, and for us spectators there is a lot of racing and the cars look great too.

[Stormsearcher]

Regards everyone. Been quiet for a long time but had to say something among friends.
1.Formula one is now being won by rules and regulations. When Ferrari won it was on merit when every team had a free hand in developing their car, and there was no limit to testing, just pure ability made the best team.
2. Arrogant Hamilton and Mercedes have been winning every year because teams, especially Ferrari had their hands tied by the FIA.
3. When Hamilton wins the 7th title it will hurt so much as Michael is in the state he is in. Hamilton will be a statistic, not a Fanjio, or Senna or Schumacher. Mr. Ham has won in the era of the most boring F1.
4. Is this what Ferrari wants, the 6th ranking this year out of 10 teams? Doesn’t the Scuderia have any honor or respect for the past of true racing, when they won on merit.
The stupid FIA wants to limit cost as if there is no money, what about the price of the new hyper cars that cost millions and are gobbled up in seconds?
5. Should Ferrari leave F1 and start a new free handed series without the control of the FIA, because the American racing series has become so better to watch?
6. Thank you for reading my post, and is there any sort of hope for Ferrari on the horizon?

This is ridiculous. Just because your opponent is stronger than you, dont go crying to daddy. The rules apply to everyone. Anyone thinking ferrari are being targetted are delusional imo. From 2000-2004, if you were a williams or mclaren supporter, you would say the FIA was favoring ferrari. Was ridiculous then, its ridiculous now.
Hamilton has earned his titles. Calling him arrogant and favoured is just wrong.
And even if Schumi was fully healthy, he coudnt have stopped this. So dont understand your point on this.
And Lewis is already being considered a great alongside senna and schumi. I dont think your opinion counts here. :-D
Should ferrari leave??? What, tuck tail and run when the going gets tough? glad that you dont run this team.

I think its just loser mentality, blaming everything under the sun when things are not going as you wanted it to be. Hate seeing such posts.
Ok rant over. :-)

[Scuderia27]

Regards everyone. Been quiet for a long time but had to say something among friends.
1.Formula one is now being won by rules and regulations. When Ferrari won it was on merit when every team had a free hand in developing their car, and there was no limit to testing, just pure ability made the best team.
2. Arrogant Hamilton and Mercedes have been winning every year because teams, especially Ferrari had their hands tied by the FIA.
3. When Hamilton wins the 7th title it will hurt so much as Michael is in the state he is in. Hamilton will be a statistic, not a Fanjio, or Senna or Schumacher. Mr. Ham has won in the era of the most boring F1.
4. Is this what Ferrari wants, the 6th ranking this year out of 10 teams? Doesn’t the Scuderia have any honor or respect for the past of true racing, when they won on merit.
The stupid FIA wants to limit cost as if there is no money, what about the price of the new hyper cars that cost millions and are gobbled up in seconds?
5. Should Ferrari leave F1 and start a new free handed series without the control of the FIA, because the American racing series has become so better to watch?
6. Thank you for reading my post, and is there any sort of hope for Ferrari on the horizon?


1. Every year the team that wins is the team that get the most of the rules and regulations
2. They are arrogant for sure, and for sure marketing value of Hamilton has been very well played by Mercedes when "negotiating" with FIA
3. Hamilton will never be Schumacher for the good or the Bad. As a tiffosi i was against him joining ferrari and that Alesi had to go. My opinion towards that changed in Barcelona 1996. No one, but Senna donnington, has made such brilliant race.
4. Ferrari must evolve but ferrari ( with trick or no trick ) took the fight to mercedes in 2017 and 2018. AL other years they were not able. Redbull, mclaren , Renault never took the fight to them even if they won GPs. Ferrari doesn't to be ashamed because they are in 6th ( i believe they are 5th adn will be fighting for 3rd at year end) .
5. Ferrari isn't like Toyota, Honda, renault and mercedes. They don't Quit because they are not be granted favours.
6. Yes there is. But we have to break the "in bed" relation that HAM-Mercedes-FIA have.

It would be a great sign that, inspite of the cars can't be changed for 2021, they changed the tires dramatically. It would mean something from FIA/Liberty not to go into the marketing dividends of Hamilton and go for some change that could diminish the mercedes advantage.

[Nick Singer]

Bored with the whole shooting match..
1) Mercedes far and away the best car - as it has been since 'plastic' hybrid era began..
2) Racing Point (last year's Mercedes) is a rocket - quelle surprise. Otherwise Stroll, a truly average driver with a rich father, would be nowhere.
3) Our car is clearly an utter donkey. Even LEC (exceptional talent) and VET (not yet past it) can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear!
4) Because Ferrari have caused an upset (mega-engine of 2019) and 'to right perceived previous favouritism', the FIA and F1 'establishment' have decided to ***** on us.
5) Horner and Red Bull are still a shallow bunch of marketing-driven technocrats with the souls of potatoes.
6) Shamilton has, with his shameless advocacy of an anarcho-Marxist, racist organisation, demonstrated that he is an utter ******* ******.
At least when Shamilton ties up his seventh WDC, we will all know it was only a 'half' championship. He will still be a **** and not for to lace Schuey's laces.
First 'season' in DECADES I've not actually watched more than a few minutes of each race and not bothered at all with FP and Qualy.
At least I can look forward to supporting my team (Norwich City) in the ruddy Championship next year..
Love
Mr Angry
X

[Nick Singer]

FIT to lace Schuey's laces!!!!!

[Fiondella]

Bored with the whole shooting match..
1) Mercedes far and away the best car - as it has been since 'plastic' hybrid era began..
2) Racing Point (last year's Mercedes) is a rocket - quelle surprise. Otherwise Stroll, a truly average driver with a rich father, would be nowhere.
3) Our car is clearly an utter donkey. Even LEC (exceptional talent) and VET (not yet past it) can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear!
4) Because Ferrari have caused an upset (mega-engine of 2019) and 'to right perceived previous favouritism', the FIA and F1 'establishment' have decided to ***** on us.
5) Horner and Red Bull are still a shallow bunch of marketing-driven technocrats with the souls of potatoes.
6) Shamilton has, with his shameless advocacy of an anarcho-Marxist, racist organisation, demonstrated that he is an utter ******* ******.
At least when Shamilton ties up his seventh WDC, we will all know it was only a 'half' championship. He will still be a **** and not for to lace Schuey's laces.
First 'season' in DECADES I've not actually watched more than a few minutes of each race and not bothered at all with FP and Qualy.
At least I can look forward to supporting my team (Norwich City) in the ruddy Championship next year..
Love
Mr Angry
X:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarif l

Very sad to see F1 come to this. I can't bear to watch anymore and it saddens every time I take a peek at the results. Leclerc will surely be looking for a more competitive seat soon. I pray that a miracle will happen soon as this is just too painful to endure..:ferrarifl

[Tony]

F1 has always been like this folks, let's not pretend it hasn't.... but one thing is clear, Ferrari simply cannot win the political game at this point and they need to assess whether they care more about winning races or about getting free participation income for just showing up.... I think they will choose the latter, they always have... so in the end, they have no incentive to do better given they always get a fixed amount for showing up, meaning the culture will never change... we as fans need to recognize that and adjust our expectations...

[nani_s23]

F1 has always been like this folks, let's not pretend it hasn't.... but one thing is clear, Ferrari simply cannot win the political game at this point and they need to assess whether they care more about winning races or about getting free participation income for just showing up.... I think they will choose the latter, they always have... so in the end, they have no incentive to do better given they always get a fixed amount for showing up, meaning the culture will never change... we as fans need to recognize that and adjust our expectations...

Got your point. But this mindset would have been Acceptable in older days.
After schumi era or new fans expect Ferrari to win given its history, brand value & money which they are spending on car etc. May be ferrari can settle for that participation money but we as a fans are expecting them to fight at least if not win.
Everything should be hard earned, nothing is easy in life.

[SS454]

The FIA ruined Formula 1 as soon as they went Hybrid. Even in the days of Red Bull domination, there was more competition.

It's hard not to think Mercedes have been cheating as It's tough to believe that of all the brilliant minds in the F1 teams, and in Honda, Renault, and Ferrari, none of them could come up with solutions to at least get close to Mercedes. Instead Mercedes have held a chassis and engine advantage over everyone the entire 7 year Hybrid era, which will be the same for 2021 as well. And not just a small advantage, but extreme advantage. Ferrari came the closest, but apparently had to cheat to do so.

[Cavallino]

The FIA ruined Formula 1 as soon as they went Hybrid. Even in the days of Red Bull domination, there was more competition.

It's hard not to think Mercedes have been cheating as It's tough to believe that of all the brilliant minds in the F1 teams, and in Honda, Renault, and Ferrari, none of them could come up with solutions to at least get close to Mercedes. Instead Mercedes have held a chassis and engine advantage over everyone the entire 7 year Hybrid era, which will be the same for 2021 as well. And not just a small advantage, but extreme advantage. Ferrari came the closest, but apparently had to cheat to do so.

Ferrari did come up with ways to get close, but then Mercedes came in, put a bunch or sensors on the Ferrari to figure out what it was doing, and then put an end to it.

[Farid757]

What the hell is bugging you. If someone has his own opinion, don’t be a brainless promoter of the way you are thinking. Either say something positive, or shut up and disagree but respect other people’s opinion. Your feedback is for you only, how much did you donate to the site this year? Gold member!

[Cavallino]

F1 has always been like this folks, let's not pretend it hasn't.... but one thing is clear, Ferrari simply cannot win the political game at this point and they need to assess whether they care more about winning races or about getting free participation income for just showing up.... I think they will choose the latter, they always have... so in the end, they have no incentive to do better given they always get a fixed amount for showing up, meaning the culture will never change... we as fans need to recognize that and adjust our expectations...

Yes, That pretty much gets down to the heart of the matter. Everything else is just fallout from that main problem.

[Redfive]

I agree with you. F1 is purely a Mercedes show these days and they can break whatever rules they like with no problems.
I will never say Lewis is a bad driver, he's not, he is very good but the car and a chimp for a teammate make him look infinitely better than he really is and his luck is staggeringly good. I have never ever seen a driver so lucky, no matter what happens, things always fall his way time and time again.

In my opinion the FIA are happy for Mercedes to rule until 2022 or even longer, all Michaels records will be gone and gone to a driver who only needs to turn up and put in 25% effort to get the win.

Quite honestly it almost moves me to tears at times to see this, it's horrendous and I don't see anything stopping them because whenever a team gets close to Mercedes they are investigated and have to change something or Pirelli (Merc's buddy) make a tyre pressure change so the other team drop away. Seen it over and over.

I cannot say my true feelings about this as it would be against forum rules but it tears at my soul, not to see Michaels records all going, but to see them going to a driver who is pretty much gifted everything in his lap.

I would be more than happy if Ferrari left F1 and joined indycar, the racing there is way better anyway.

[killer]

Ferrari simply cannot win the political game at this point and they need to assess whether they care more about winning races or about getting free participation income for just showing up.... I think they will choose the latter, they always have... so in the end, they have no incentive to do better given they always get a fixed amount for showing up, meaning the culture will never change.

The call will necessarily be from the top.

Feels like a con but then no one forced us to be Ferrari fans. Here's to a long short season and those to come.

[Brembo]

Todt knows Ferrari inside out and he is FIAs main man. Him and Binotto are Ferrari's DNF . Our drivers are not the cause of being where the team is. I only hope Charles and throw in our next year driver still hold the seats as sacred; F-1 wise. Ferrari fans will cry every race but they will not go away. Seeing Lewis having to beat his team mate every race is good action race time while we fans wait for Ferrari's getting back up front.

[Cavallino]

Got your point. But this mindset would have been Acceptable in older days.
After schumi era or new fans expect Ferrari to win given its history, brand value & money which they are spending on car etc. May be ferrari can settle for that participation money but we as a fans are expecting them to fight at least if not win.
Everything should be hard earned, nothing is easy in life.

Agreed, but Luca set us back, the Sergio brought us a step forward, and then we took another 2 steps back.

[Brembo]

90 poles so far ,probably 100 wins and 10 WDCs coming up, all on pure luck and team mate 's moving over and blocking for him, except for maybe not being able to hold back Max. Just imagine if Lewis could actually drive as a GOAT ! Oh ! Pirelli is in Luis' pocket also; and Toto is for sure more capable of handling his position @ Merc than our boy Binotto. Lucky again for Lewis he doesn't have the likes of Binotto running things @ Merc. Who know? Maybe Seb & Charles need to wear 2 chains when out and about? Good luck charms !

[wisepie]

Bored with the whole shooting match..
1) Mercedes far and away the best car - as it has been since 'plastic' hybrid era began..
2) Racing Point (last year's Mercedes) is a rocket - quelle surprise. Otherwise Stroll, a truly average driver with a rich father, would be nowhere.
3) Our car is clearly an utter donkey. Even LEC (exceptional talent) and VET (not yet past it) can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear!
4) Because Ferrari have caused an upset (mega-engine of 2019) and 'to right perceived previous favouritism', the FIA and F1 'establishment' have decided to ***** on us.
5) Horner and Red Bull are still a shallow bunch of marketing-driven technocrats with the souls of potatoes.
6) Shamilton has, with his shameless advocacy of an anarcho-Marxist, racist organisation, demonstrated that he is an utter ******* ******.
At least when Shamilton ties up his seventh WDC, we will all know it was only a 'half' championship. He will still be a **** and not for to lace Schuey's laces.
First 'season' in DECADES I've not actually watched more than a few minutes of each race and not bothered at all with FP and Qualy.
At least I can look forward to supporting my team (Norwich City) in the ruddy Championship next year..
Love
Mr Angry
X

Very well said, and Norwich and Bournemouth (our local team) look to be in the same boat as Ferrari, down and out!:-E I can't be bothered with all the pre-post race crap or FP sessions, but I still have to watch the actual race, silly me.:-E;-)

[RicRac]

what drives me up the bend is the sheer bragging at the start of the year... over the top car reveal... bragging this is the most they have ever spent on a car before the season starts... and just look where all that money has got us. NOWHERE!

The team lacks drive, leadership and a vision! #louiscamilleri+johnelkannOUT

[Tony]

The call will necessarily be from the top.

Feels like a con but then no one forced us to be Ferrari fans. Here's to a long short season and those to come.

Yeah thankfully it's a short season this year... next year will be a long one... lol...

[SS454]

I think with Racing Point using a clone of the 2019 Mercedes has shown what a great car can do to an average at best driver. The car is "easy to drive" in comparison to the RP19 and Stroll isn't looking too bad, even able to beat Perez it seems.

Something to think about when you see Lewis Hamilton setting records. Only difference between Racing Point and Mercedes is the Racing Point still actually has to try and beat other teams, and there isn't a #2 Support role contract for one of their drivers.

[Greig]

Lewis could win 20 titles in that Merc and he would still not come close to Michael IMO.

F1 is in a poor state and it looks like nobody is able to challenge Merc, in our dominance it was all about slowing us down to let others come at us but this F1 seems happy to let Merc rule, mind you they seem like a well organised team that any effort to tame them would probably not succeed anyway.

[stefa]

Lewis could win 20 titles in that Merc and he would still not come close to Michael IMO.

F1 is in a poor state and it looks like nobody is able to challenge Merc, in our dominance it was all about slowing us down to let others come at us but this F1 seems happy to let Merc rule, mind you they seem like a well organised team that any effort to tame them would probably not succeed anyway.

Amen to every word you wrote, expecialy bold one! :clap

[SS454]

Lewis could win 20 titles in that Merc and he would still not come close to Michael IMO.

F1 is in a poor state and it looks like nobody is able to challenge Merc, in our dominance it was all about slowing us down to let others come at us but this F1 seems happy to let Merc rule, mind you they seem like a well organised team that any effort to tame them would probably not succeed anyway.

That's what drives me crazy. F1/FIA did everything they could to stop Ferrari's dominance yet it seems they do what they can to ensure Mercedes keeps its dominance. I still don't understand why the FIA make a rule to homologate the power units in 2014, a brand new setup and Mercedes have a solid 75 horsepower advantage and are protected by the governing body.

[Cavallino]

They even changed the point scoring system, so even if Michael won every race it wouldn't mean he would run away with the championship. And it almost worked too! (2003).

[jgonzalesm6]

That's what drives me crazy. F1/FIA did everything they could to stop Ferrari's dominance yet it seems they do what they can to ensure Mercedes keeps its dominance. I still don't understand why the FIA make a rule to homologate the power units in 2014, a brand new setup and Mercedes have a solid 75 horsepower advantage and are protected by the governing body.

Token system and engine freezes don't help that's for sure in this turbo hybrid era.

Ferrari F1 within itself is in crisis mode as well....has been for the last decade or so. 2012 was close....too close for Alonso to loose.....thank-you Grosjean.

[paolo lalli]

Concorde agreement should be done behind closed doors.Well the king of closed door back door negotiations is the wolf none better just as he has done with the FIA mercedes racing point and soon Aston Martin he will probably be sebs manager also.Thats the problem with f1 he talks transparacy only when it suits and is of no real value to totto.He is so predictable.

[Redfive]

25pts for Ham vs 10 for Michael
20-22 races a year for Ham, 12+ for Michael
FIA bent over backwards to stop Michael
FIA bend a knee to Ham

I'm sorry but when people say "at the end of this year Ham is going to be the best driver of all time" (and several of my work mates do) I want to throw up and I feel physically sick.

it's so so so unfair, Ham has been gifted titles and race wins on a silver platter and he has more good luck than all drivers in the history of F1.
I don't hate him as a person but this is just disgrateful and RIGGED in his favour. SEVEN years of this nonsense and still we have at least TWO more.

I don't think I can bear it :-(

[SS454]

2014 to 2016 Hamilton only had to beat his teammate, and he lost once. 2017-2020 he made sure Bottas would be a support driver and has never had any genuine competition. 2008 was a credible championship that he only got because Ferrari borked it for Massa. But I still consider it a well deserved championship.

Michael won in 94 and 95 that was inferior to the Williams-Renault. 99 would have won if not for a broken leg, won in 2000 with an equal car. Dominated 01 and 02 to the point the FIA changed the rules specifically to stop Ferrari in which he still won in 03, dominated in 04 and was finally dethroned due to the worst idea in F1 history (single set of tires for an entire race) when 7 of the 10 teams were with Michelin. 7 earned championships.

It's a shame Formula 1 has worked so hard to stat pad Lewis Hamilton into being the "greatest driver" on paper.

[kshitijmalkan]

The current state of affairs is pirely Sad!

My opinion isnnot just for the overall performance of our Team, but also refers to the technical directives currently being played, the forth coming changes and the back room negotiations.

I feelings echo with some of your thoughts, F1 has been systematically raped of its glory.

Many will argue MSC won his championships dominantly, some may argue the FIA helped ferrari. But if you look at the stats and go back and watch the old races, it was just good old fashion racing. Some were won in the pits, some on the track, but they all kept you at the edge of your seat. It am not arguing that it wasnt monotonous, MSC winning was, but it was still interesting. Williams, McLaren, Renault all at times kept each ither honest.

That spark is definatly no more

The other thing which was always interesting was the vast uodates from testing... so much techthat was first featured in thoes cars ended up in road cars. All that RnD paid off in us buying car. And cars today are much more efficient, safer and quicker because of Tech developed by the teams 10-15-20 years ago.

Like.it or not, all thoes aero updates, a new B spec Car always got us excited. The differnces in tyres supplied also added an extra element

These were just different times. Times the sport was at its peak in the recent history of the sport.

If you sort of get what i am saying isz the sport we loved really is not the samr anymore. This really is an exhibition rather than a championship.

I do not think, ferrari should sign the new agreement. And i thinknwr have lost the opportunity to set up tje previously threatened alternative race series to F1.

Committing to more years fails one of the biggest benefits if racing, RnD and the innovations resulting.

With current regs being so presvriptive, complicated snd heabily favourable towards ome outlet, thr competition remaims unfair.

And Mercedes understand this and my bet is, they will leave.

To make my case, I ask you to consider being the owner of AMG MBPetronas or Ferrari or McLaren for that matter... they all have the same 2 primary goals for partaking in F1, Braging Rights and Innovation. We have already seen innovation is just not an aim in current F1 and as for Bragging rights, howbwould it sound if the 300k ferrari being sold shares the same DNA as the car that won against a fellow that makes a can of pop, or a machining, /Hardware company or may be even clothing.

The bar being set is not being set high enough.

My thoughts on improving racing are quiet simple....

1. Set a budget 3/4 of the highrst spender.
2. Allow teams to manage their resources.
3. Keep TD simple
4. Allow testinf, refuelling, alternative fuels and al.
5. Set a drag coeffwhich at 50-100-150 meters which should be tweked depending on the race.
6. Allow freedom tonchoosr engines.
7. Allow drivers to choose from different tyre compounds
8. Fairly allow innovations.
9. Time limit the DRS, alllw the drivers to xhoose the beat point to trigger the flaps, lets see who is more balls and who is more brains.
I think these changes should enxourage viwership. I refuse to pay Sky to watch thid merry-go-around.

[killer]

The current state of affairs is pirely Sad!

My opinion isnnot just for the overall performance of our Team, but also refers to the technical directives currently being played, the forth coming changes and the back room negotiations.

I feelings echo with some of your thoughts, F1 has been systematically raped of its glory.

Many will argue MSC won his championships dominantly, some may argue the FIA helped ferrari. But if you look at the stats and go back and watch the old races, it was just good old fashion racing. Some were won in the pits, some on the track, but they all kept you at the edge of your seat. It am not arguing that it wasnt monotonous, MSC winning was, but it was still interesting. Williams, McLaren, Renault all at times kept each ither honest.

That spark is definatly no more

The other thing which was always interesting was the vast uodates from testing... so much techthat was first featured in thoes cars ended up in road cars. All that RnD paid off in us buying car. And cars today are much more efficient, safer and quicker because of Tech developed by the teams 10-15-20 years ago.

Like.it or not, all thoes aero updates, a new B spec Car always got us excited. The differnces in tyres supplied also added an extra element

These were just different times. Times the sport was at its peak in the recent history of the sport.

If you sort of get what i am saying isz the sport we loved really is not the samr anymore. This really is an exhibition rather than a championship.

I do not think, ferrari should sign the new agreement. And i thinknwr have lost the opportunity to set up tje previously threatened alternative race series to F1.

Committing to more years fails one of the biggest benefits if racing, RnD and the innovations resulting.

With current regs being so presvriptive, complicated snd heabily favourable towards ome outlet, thr competition remaims unfair.

And Mercedes understand this and my bet is, they will leave.

To make my case, I ask you to consider being the owner of AMG MBPetronas or Ferrari or McLaren for that matter... they all have the same 2 primary goals for partaking in F1, Braging Rights and Innovation. We have already seen innovation is just not an aim in current F1 and as for Bragging rights, howbwould it sound if the 300k ferrari being sold shares the same DNA as the car that won against a fellow that makes a can of pop, or a machining, /Hardware company or may be even clothing.

The bar being set is not being set high enough.

My thoughts on improving racing are quiet simple....

1. Set a budget 3/4 of the highrst spender.
2. Allow teams to manage their resources.
3. Keep TD simple
4. Allow testinf, refuelling, alternative fuels and al.
5. Set a drag coeffwhich at 50-100-150 meters which should be tweked depending on the race.
6. Allow freedom tonchoosr engines.
7. Allow drivers to choose from different tyre compounds
8. Fairly allow innovations.
9. Time limit the DRS, alllw the drivers to xhoose the beat point to trigger the flaps, lets see who is more balls and who is more brains.
I think these changes should enxourage viwership. I refuse to pay Sky to watch thid merry-go-around.

Some points arguable, but well put overall IMO. I like timed, free-to-choose DRS.

[Brembo]

If and when Luis breaks any F-1 records , their broken. That's it. Who, what , when , where, is all just sour grapes. I just wish he was in a Ferrari while he does it. He is up against even his team mate every race. When R Bull had their 4x German driver winning everything , I'm sure the R Bull fans jumped for joy every race. Ferrari then goes and give the German $50 million a year to have the car & driver disappear from the podium ! :rotfl Suzie Wolf in place of Binotto would do the trick ! Merc would just cease to be on top.

[Redfive]

If and when Luis breaks any F-1 records , their broken. That's it. Who, what , when , where, is all just sour grapes. I just wish he was in a Ferrari while he does it. He is up against even his team mate every race. When R Bull had their 4x German driver winning everything , I'm sure the R Bull fans jumped for joy every race. Ferrari then goes and give the German $50 million a year to have the car & driver disappear from the podium ! :rotfl Suzie Wolf in place of Binotto would do the trick ! Merc would just cease to be on top.

I would never want Lewis to driver for Ferrari! as for being 'up against his teammate' well that's the joke of the century, Bottas is nothing more than a paid #2 and is frequently told to let his master pass. lol

[wisepie]

25pts for Ham vs 10 for Michael
20-22 races a year for Ham, 12+ for Michael
FIA bent over backwards to stop Michael
FIA bend a knee to Ham

I'm sorry but when people say "at the end of this year Ham is going to be the best driver of all time" (and several of my work mates do) I want to throw up and I feel physically sick.

it's so so so unfair, Ham has been gifted titles and race wins on a silver platter and he has more good luck than all drivers in the history of F1.
I don't hate him as a person but this is just disgrateful and RIGGED in his favour. SEVEN years of this nonsense and still we have at least TWO more.

I don't think I can bear it :-(

I feel the same, I don't deny HAM is a brilliant driver but he has been in the best team with little consistent challenger to his Merc, OK so it's up to Ferrari or whoever to rise to the occasion, but the current situation won't allow that to happen. As for HAM being the best of all time, his results may say that but just look at the way the past 6 years have played into his hands, it has to end or F1 will lose any support that it currently has. Except for HAM fans, of course.:-s

[nani_s23]

I would never want Lewis to driver for Ferrari! as for being 'up against his teammate' well that's the joke of the century, Bottas is nothing more than a paid #2 and is frequently told to let his master pass. lol

He doesn’t understand that first of all. It’s just eye on 50mil$ & max for him :-)

[Silent Bob]

Brembo, I think even you have to admit Bottas is not on an even playing ground. Too much fuel in qualy? oops.
Even you have to admit, the deck was stacked in Hamiltons and Mercs favour the last few years.

[Brembo]

Brembo, I think even you have to admit Bottas is not on an even playing ground. Too much fuel in qualy? oops.
Even you have to admit, the deck was stacked in Hamiltons and Mercs favour the last few years.

I do agree and admit what you are saying. Ferrari the team; and fans had the same glorious years back when Todt and Ross worked for Michael. Regardless of any tipping the scales in Michael"s favor he was a winner for sure and it was enjoyed by Ferrari fans and team big time. I suffered as a Rubens fan but really wanted Ferrari to win WCCs. Now 2020, well, as the saying goes, What goes around , comes around. As you say the deck got stacked for Lewis & Merc. But saying Lewis can't drive is not for real truth. Saying Michael wasnot a great driver was not is not true. But! He did get a little help from his friends. :rotfl Rubens got paid! What else did he want!! Stay safe Bro !

[nani_s23]

I do agree and admit what you are saying. Ferrari the team; and fans had the same glorious years back when Todt and Ross worked for Michael. Regardless of any tipping the scales in Michael"s favor he was a winner for sure and it was enjoyed by Ferrari fans and team big time. I suffered as a Rubens fan but really wanted Ferrari to win WCCs. Now 2020, well, as the saying goes, What goes around , comes around. As you say the deck got stacked for Lewis & Merc. But saying Lewis can't drive is not for real truth. Saying Michael wasnot a great driver was not is not true. But! He did get a little help from his friends. :rotfl Rubens got paid! What else did he want!! Stay safe Bro !

:rotfl Michael had the competition & he did come out on top. Don’t talk this rubens again & again :rotfl
There are & will be occasions where your team mate will be faster than you. That doesn’t mean is he consistent enough to threat your title ? Funny posts by you. Michael deserved those titles because there was a competition on the grid.

Where as Lewis except 2007, that too it was last drop fight. The other titles which he achieved aren’t deserved one’s as there was no competitor among the grid against him. When there was one,
he lost the title against Rosberg. :rotfl

When you are talking about Rubens (oh you feel so much sorry right :rotfl), you should talk about bottas how many times he was ordered to move away? Don’t talk about these bed time stories Please. :lol

Lewis is no where match to Michael & he will never be. Lewis has dominant cars 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019/2020.
No others rivals cars are match to that Mercs.
You saw how Rosberg fetched the title with a dominant car against Lewis. So given full support from team, any above avg driver can pull that title off against Ham.

With due credit, Ham is not an ordinary driver.

[Hornet]

That's what drives me crazy. F1/FIA did everything they could to stop Ferrari's dominance yet it seems they do what they can to ensure Mercedes keeps its dominance. I still don't understand why the FIA make a rule to homologate the power units in 2014, a brand new setup and Mercedes have a solid 75 horsepower advantage and are protected by the governing body.

I think priorities have changed over the years. Today, cost takes center stage.

I don't think the FIA intentionally design the sporting regulation to make Merc the dominant team. Rather, it is a consequence of cost cutting measures.
With the kind of development restrictions in place, whoever got the engine formula right from the get go will always have an advantage.
The only way we can close the gap is to say engine makers that aren't there yet, can have more development room to catch up. But this clearly isn't going to be considered fair.

I don't know how F1 can ever solve this. The sport is very technical and expensive, but F1 can't run away from being technical. We will be losing a huge chunk of what makes F1 what it is, if we homologate the cars. But at the same time, the development race has become too challenging for its own good.

[SS454]

I think priorities have changed over the years. Today, cost takes center stage.

I don't think the FIA intentionally design the sporting regulation to make Merc the dominant team. Rather, it is a consequence of cost cutting measures.
With the kind of development restrictions in place, whoever got the engine formula right from the get go will always have an advantage.
The only way we can close the gap is to say engine makers that aren't there yet, can have more development room to catch up. But this clearly isn't going to be considered fair.

I don't know how F1 can ever solve this. The sport is very technical and expensive, but F1 can't run away from being technical. We will be losing a huge chunk of what makes F1 what it is, if we homologate the cars. But at the same time, the development race has become too challenging for its own good.

I think F1 had hopes that 2014 would stop the dominance by Red Bull and hoped to see a close battle between Mercedes, Ferrari, and Red Bull as well. Everyone predicted the teams that could develop the PU along with the chassis had an advantage. Mercedes got it right, everyone else not so much. 2014 and 2015 one could see why a single team would dominate. However the homologated engine rules protected the Mercedes advantage. It's possible Mercedes would have done a better job anyways, but I'd have liked to see teams have the chance of trying new ideas.

I personally think the hybrid engines are the problem. Not only can a team have big power advantages if their PU can deliver max power across the entire RPM range, but also battery charging rates, packaging of the PU, power delivery combined with engine mapping. If they are to continue with hybrid, they almost need to make a standardized ERS system with limited mapping.

[Bonecrasher]

It’s unseemly for Ferrari fans to complain about Mercedes when Ferrari won the Title for 6 years in a row. The team was doing great in 2017 and 2018 and then in 2019 clown Binotto took charge. What a disaster he’s been, not Hamilton. Strange how this forum talks about Hamilton more than anyone else from Ferrari for supposed Ferrari fans.

[SS454]

It’s unseemly for Ferrari fans to complain about Mercedes when Ferrari won the Title for 6 years in a row. The team was doing great in 2017 and 2018 and then in 2019 clown Binotto took charge. What a disaster he’s been, not Hamilton. Strange how this forum talks about Hamilton more than anyone else from Ferrari for supposed Ferrari fans.

6 in a row and 8 in 10 years. The difference being Ferrari actually had to fight for those championships, and there was open testing. 1999, 2000, 2003, 2007, and 2008 were all extremely close battles with cars that were quite close in performance.

Ferrari put a bit of a fight in 2017 and 2018, but got soundly beat both years. The truth is Mercedes has had virtually zero competition 2014-2020. You could put Lance Stroll and Latifi in those cars and they would be champions in those cars.

[Silent Bob]

It’s unseemly for Ferrari fans to complain about Mercedes when Ferrari won the Title for 6 years in a row. The team was doing great in 2017 and 2018 and then in 2019 clown Binotto took charge. What a disaster he’s been, not Hamilton. Strange how this forum talks about Hamilton more than anyone else from Ferrari for supposed Ferrari fans.

I think the issue is the lack of being able to develop to compete. When the engines were locked that pretty much sealed 2-3 titles for Merc with no competition. When Ferrari were winning, teams were able to develop as quick as they were able to. When Ferrari were winning, drastic rule changes were implemented to close competition. You can't get competitive if you are not allowed to develop. even the aero changes brought about in 2017 didn't hamper Mercs because they still had an engine advantage over the others. Let's not forget that Mercs created this engine formula, and they've been using it in production vehicles for many years. Ferrari had the chance in 2019 when their engine was quicker... if they had some downforce, season may have been different.

[ROCHEY]

It’s unseemly for Ferrari fans to complain about Mercedes when Ferrari won the Title for 6 years in a row. The team was doing great in 2017 and 2018 and then in 2019 clown Binotto took charge. What a disaster he’s been, not Hamilton. Strange how this forum talks about Hamilton more than anyone else from Ferrari for supposed Ferrari fans.

Yes, been a bit of a secret lurker and am astounded at the amount of time & energy this forum spends on dissecting Hamilton! It's almost an obsession! Anyway Ferrari had their chances in 2017 & 2018. They should've won in 2018, the car was there....no point in taking out frustrations on Hamilton .

[Brembo]

Charles is for sure good enough to be a winner this season. He knows how to fight his way up to the front. I hope for the best, Ferrari is not new at this F-1 Business. There's hope for sure.

[stefa]

Charles is for sure good enough to be a winner this season. He knows how to fight his way up to the front. I hope for the best, Ferrari is not new at this F-1 Business. There's hope for sure.

:-E

I am sorry that I need to bring this up to you, not that he is not going to win, but that podium in the opening race is like WDC!!!! In order for Ferrari car to win a race this year, it has to be following situation:
- Both Mercedes DNF
- Both Red Bull DNF
- Both Racing Point DNF
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- I am not sure at this point we could fight off McLaren, so maybe when everyone else is DNFing, those two can also, just to be on a safe side.

And on top of all this above, pit wall should work 200% right in order not to mess something!

[aroutis]

It’s unseemly for Ferrari fans to complain about Mercedes when Ferrari won the Title for 6 years in a row. The team was doing great in 2017 and 2018 and then in 2019 clown Binotto took charge. What a disaster he’s been, not Hamilton. Strange how this forum talks about Hamilton more than anyone else from Ferrari for supposed Ferrari fans.Ferrari was not dominant all these years. Actually Ferrari had to fight at least two teams more of the times. Moreover the two times they were dominant, 2002 and 2004 , FiA came to change the rules in order to stop said domination , something that has yet to happen for Mercedes. In fact what happens is that whenever Ferrari catches up, there is all sort of commotion, sensors installed in the cars and accusations. So no, there is nothing unseemly about this.

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[aroutis]

Charles is for sure good enough to be a winner this season. He knows how to fight his way up to the front. I hope for the best, Ferrari is not new at this F-1 Business. There's hope for sure.Charles is a great driver but he needs a great car. Look how the pink copycats of the last years merc are flying . A clear proof there is nothing special in what lewis is doing. Give a monkey a car like that and he will get a championship.

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[ROCHEY]

Ferrari was not dominant all these years. Actually Ferrari had to fight at least two teams more of the times. Moreover the two times they were dominant, 2002 and 2004 , FiA came to change the rules in order to stop said domination , something that has yet to happen for Mercedes. In fact what happens is that whenever Ferrari catches up, there is all sort of commotion, sensors installed in the cars and accusations. So no, there is nothing unseemly about this.

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In terms of car performance, neither have Merc been completely dominant since 2014....Ferrari got close in 2017 & matched them in 2018. And it's not like the rules have been static since 2014, how many regulation changes have we had?. And the FIA haven't been shy of clamping down on certain things that have particularly affected Merc e.g. FRIC, trick suspension, front wings, DAS etc Even the dropping of the token system, earlier than originally agreed, was done to help others try catch up on Merc Pu.

I'm with Bonecrasher on this... fans of a team who overall dominated for 6yrs, moaning about another team doing similar....pot, kettle, black

[Brembo]

2018 was a good Ferrari car for sure. I believe Seb just can't cut it when he's in a fight for getting up front. More due to his mistakes than the car not up there. When he was with R Bull and he had the front locked up, he won 9 straight in 2013. Lewis has a great car and wins with it. What else can anyone want from a driver? In 2116 Lewis lost by 1 pt. !! to Nico. That's why he went for the extra point last race for sure.

[JPZ]

Charles is a great driver but he needs a great car. Look how the pink copycats of the last years merc are flying . A clear proof there is nothing special in what lewis is doing. Give a monkey a car like that and he will get a championship.

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Yes, Hamilton is an excellent driver but put anyone in that car and they will win the championship. If not him, Bottas would have been champion the past few years.

Having Verstappen or Leclerc in a car with the same or similar performance would be interesting.

[ROCHEY]

2018 was a good Ferrari car for sure. I believe Seb just can't cut it when he's in a fight for getting up front. More due to his mistakes than the car not up there. When he was with R Bull and he had the front locked up, he won 9 straight in 2013. Lewis has a great car and wins with it. What else can anyone want from a driver? In 2116 Lewis lost by 1 pt. !! to Nico. That's why he went for the extra point last race for sure.

The 2018 car was more than capable of going neck & neck with the Merc, it was completely on par. Some reputable figures in the paddock like Brawn, AMuS etc even said the Ferrari was the better car. Let down by strategic errors & driver mistakes, but the SF71H was completely title worthy.

[Cavallino]

The 2018 car was more than capable of going neck & neck with the Merc, it was completely on par. Some reputable figures in the paddock like Brawn, AMuS etc even said the Ferrari was the better car. Let down by strategic errors & driver mistakes, but the SF71H was completely title worthy.

In the first half of the season yes, but after the engine clampdown and Merc innovations that was no longer the case.

Also, we had races gifted to Merc where they were allowed to bring their own tyres.

Also, I remember calculating that Verstappen cost Seb more than 30 points to Hamilton that year through his crashes.

[SilverSpeed]

Crashstappen costs us the title that year, arrogant *****.

[stefa]

Al that is water under bridge long time. Useless to talk about. Any way who is even counting how many times have one failed?!?

[Cavallino]

Crashstappen costs us the title that year, arrogant *****.

He really did, building a points gap can put pressure on Hamilton, but Crashtappen made sure that didn't happen.

[paolo lalli]

World championship my foot it should not be deemed.lewis knows it will be hollow.The way it's shaping up it's a European championship.Fancy Silverstone nominating to host 11 races totally ridiculous.World champion.?More like wally world.The season should have been scrapped.Formula1 is loosing money in spades.

[stefa]

World championship my foot it should not be deemed.lewis knows it will be hollow.The way it's shaping up it's a European championship.Fancy Silverstone nominating to host 11 races totally ridiculous.World champion.?More like wally world.The season should have been scrapped.Formula1 is loosing money in spades.

:clap

[Brembo]

[QUOTE=paolo lalli;1029455]World championship my foot it should not be deemed.lewis knows it will be hollow.The way it's shaping up it's a European championship.Fancy Silverstone nominating to host 11 races totally ridiculous.World champion.?More like wally world.The season should have been scrapped.Formula1 is loosing money in spades.[/QU

So hallow ! Why isn't Ferrari's 4x WDC driver doing all the winning? Or even Charles. It's a European championship, they qualify. The races are still great. F-1 must continue! Years way back there were only 10 races . the WCC WDC counted.

[stefa]

[QUOTE=paolo lalli;1029455]World championship my foot it should not be deemed.lewis knows it will be hollow.The way it's shaping up it's a European championship.Fancy Silverstone nominating to host 11 races totally ridiculous.World champion.?More like wally world.The season should have been scrapped.Formula1 is loosing money in spades.[/QU

So hallow ! Why isn't Ferrari's 4x WDC driver doing all the winning? Or even Charles. It's a European championship, they qualify. The races are still great. F-1 must continue! Years way back there were only 10 races . the WCC WDC counted.

As you can see it was waaaaaaaaay back when F1 season had less than 10 races in season...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_seasons

[Brembo]

Years ago here in NY City, Center field fence was 565 feet away in Yankee Stadium. That's how far a home run had to be hit. Today the fence is 400+ ft. So most home runs today would just be high fly balls caught by the outfielder. The times change but everything still counts today. If Lewis does it WDC this season , it counts.

[chinmay]

Terrible state F1 is in. Engine design frozen till 2024 means same team will be doing all the winning till 2024. That's what happened in 2014. One team gains massive engine advantage and then you introduce token system so others can't develop. Now was another time to catch up and then you freeze engine development till 2024. It's looking like a grand plan to hand over championship to one team for 11 straight years. Ham will retire with 11 WDC.

The title winning team has done well but it's all hollow when others are NOT allowed to challenge.

[Brembo]

Don't count Max out!

[Smintlemon]

Now I have to talk a little about my soul.I am extremely disappointed with this Wallyworld Formula 1 and the FIA!As early as 2013, before the introduction of the new hybrid engines, Ross Brawn was clear that Mercedes had a development advantage here that was not recoverable.The FIA ​​built huge manure here and accepted the conditions from Mercedes to get them into the F1.Proofs ?why does Andy cowell claim this fact in this article?"It hit him personally that Mercedes team boss Toto Wolff publicly acknowledged in 2019 that Ferrari had overtaken Mercedes in the engines. Cowell was certain that this was not legally possible, so he made sure behind the scenes that the FIA ​​won the Ferrari engine takes a close look ".Source: https://www.autobild.de/artikel/formel-1-mercedes-verliert-motorchef-16996991.htmlYou can only make such a statement if you are absolutely sure that nobody can catch up.In addition, Ross Brawn significantly influenced the FIA ​​by introducing the token system for engine development up to the 2017 season. So you could be 100% sure from Mercedes that no other engine manufacturer will ever be able to win the World Cup as long as there will be this hybrid PU.We, the fans, have been and have been sold in principle by the FIA ​​and Mercedes completely for idiots since 2013.And this is the end for me now.I will no longer reward Formula 1 with my time.I can only decide for myself, but we all, even those who don't know this forum, have to do with our absence and lack of interest to bring the FIA ​​and Liberty to their knees. Because you are dependent on the audience and the financial income.WE ARE NOT.Without us there is no Formula 1 !!
Now I have to talk a little about my soul.I am extremely disappointed with this Wallyworld Formula 1 and the FIA!As early as 2013, before the introduction of the new hybrid engines, Ross Brawn was clear that Mercedes had a development advantage here that was not recoverable.The FIA ​​built huge manure here and accepted the conditions from Mercedes to get them into the F1.Proofs ?why does Andy cowell claim this fact in this article?"It hit him personally that Mercedes team boss Toto Wolff publicly acknowledged in 2019 that Ferrari had overtaken Mercedes in the engines. Cowell was certain that this was not legally possible, so he made sure behind the scenes that the FIA ​​won the Ferrari engine takes a close look ".Source: https://www.autobild.de/artikel/formel-1-mercedes-verliert-motorchef-16996991.htmlYou can only make such a statement if you are absolutely sure that nobody can catch up.In addition, Ross Brawn significantly influenced the FIA ​​by introducing the token system for engine development up to the 2017 season. So you could be 100% sure from Mercedes that no other engine manufacturer will ever be able to win the World Cup as long as there will be this hybrid PU.We, the fans, have been and have been sold in principle by the FIA ​​and Mercedes completely for idiots since 2013.And this is the end for me now.I will no longer reward Formula 1 with my time.I can only decide for myself, but we all, even those who don't know this forum, have to do with our absence and lack of interest to bring the FIA ​​and Liberty to their knees. Because you are dependent on the audience and the financial income.WE ARE NOT.Without us there is no Formula 1 !!

[JPZ]

Now I have to talk a little about my soul.I am extremely disappointed with this Wallyworld Formula 1 and the FIA!As early as 2013, before the introduction of the new hybrid engines, Ross Brawn was clear that Mercedes had a development advantage here that was not recoverable.The FIA ​​built huge manure here and accepted the conditions from Mercedes to get them into the F1.Proofs ?why does Andy cowell claim this fact in this article?"It hit him personally that Mercedes team boss Toto Wolff publicly acknowledged in 2019 that Ferrari had overtaken Mercedes in the engines. Cowell was certain that this was not legally possible, so he made sure behind the scenes that the FIA ​​won the Ferrari engine takes a close look ".Source: https://www.autobild.de/artikel/formel-1-mercedes-verliert-motorchef-16996991.htmlYou can only make such a statement if you are absolutely sure that nobody can catch up.In addition, Ross Brawn significantly influenced the FIA ​​by introducing the token system for engine development up to the 2017 season. So you could be 100% sure from Mercedes that no other engine manufacturer will ever be able to win the World Cup as long as there will be this hybrid PU.We, the fans, have been and have been sold in principle by the FIA ​​and Mercedes completely for idiots since 2013.And this is the end for me now.I will no longer reward Formula 1 with my time.I can only decide for myself, but we all, even those who don't know this forum, have to do with our absence and lack of interest to bring the FIA ​​and Liberty to their knees. Because you are dependent on the audience and the financial income.WE ARE NOT.Without us there is no Formula 1 !![/FONT]

Mclaren are already involved in IndyCar and apparently so will Ferrari next year.

Seems they are preparing for a Plan B with the direction F1 is going.

Such moves arguably do not indicate much faith in the future of the current F1 racing division.

[paneristi]

Time to prepare for the dark ages. Until there’s hope

[wisepie]

Time to prepare for the dark ages. Until there’s hope

The entire world seems to be entering the dark ages at present, so F1 is merely a distraction in the grand scheme of things. If it survives the current ridiculous engine-frozen and Mercedes-dominated scenario, will any of us have the enthusiasm to watch it? All that tifosi support will have gone up in smoke!:-E On second thoughts, maybe just using the 'dark ages' moniker is out of bounds nowadays.:roll

[Brembo]

I can't wait for the next F-1 face weekend to start ! The podium wins are still up for grabs every race. It's not just 3 drivers who now show hope. I believe Bottas is out to beat Lewis for the win. He's always saying he's allowed to race. Max has two Merc's to beat up front. And Charles hopefully will be right in the mix! Even without Down Force!

[stefa]

I can't wait for the next F-1 face weekend to start ! The podium wins are still up for grabs every race. It's not just 3 drivers who now show hope. I believe Bottas is out to beat Lewis for the win. He's always saying he's allowed to race. Max has two Merc's to beat up front. And Charles hopefully will be right in the mix! Even without Down Force!

:-E

I can't decide, are you sarcastic, or are you for real?!?!

[Brembo]

:-E

I can't decide, are you sarcastic, or are you for real?!?!

Just joking about the lack of down force! We Ferrari fans know that's incurable. The rest is dead serious on my part. There's 3 places on the podium, so forget Lewis in the #1 spot and watch to see the #2, # 3 drivers on the podium. I also watch Gio and hope for him in the top 10. And I truly believe Bottas is out to beat Lewis. Binotto should be checking drivers temperatures as they enter the garage, nothing more. I can't wait for the this week ends races to come , Binotto is waiting for 2022 to come !

[stefa]

Just joking about the lack of down force! We Ferrari fans know that's incurable. The rest is dead serious on my part. There's 3 places on the podium, so forget Lewis in the #1 spot and watch to see the #2, # 3 drivers on the podium. I also watch Gio and hope for him in the top 10. And I truly believe Bottas is out to beat Lewis. Binotto should be checking drivers temperatures as they enter the garage, nothing more. I can't wait for the this week ends races to come , Binotto is waiting for 2022 to come !

I really admire and envy your huge optimism. How I see it is, LH will be 1st in every race, maybe here and there Mercedes will give some crumbs to VB (one or to more wins), 3rd place is, depending on circuit, Racing Point or Red Bull.

[Brembo]

I really admire and envy your huge optimism. How I see it is, LH will be 1st in every race, maybe here and there Mercedes will give some crumbs to VB (one or to more wins), 3rd place is, depending on circuit, Racing Point or Red Bull.

Merc better be careful with giving any crumbs to VB ! Luis still has nightmares about that 1 pt. loss to Nico back in 2016. Lewis went for that fastest lap extra point last race just in case ! Enjoy the next race and stay safe !

[JPZ]

I can't wait for the next F-1 face weekend to start ! The podium wins are still up for grabs every race. It's not just 3 drivers who now show hope. I believe Bottas is out to beat Lewis for the win. He's always saying he's allowed to race. Max has two Merc's to beat up front. And Charles hopefully will be right in the mix! Even without Down Force!

I hope you're right and we have a Nico Rosberg type situation...

[KimiBot]

I really admire and envy your huge optimism. How I see it is, LH will be 1st in every race, maybe here and there Mercedes will give some crumbs to VB (one or to more wins), 3rd place is, depending on circuit, Racing Point or Red Bull.

That is the way it goes. Exciting racing....NOT

[458 Italia]

That is the way it goes. Exciting racing....NOT

If you want exciting racing try watching many of the GT/mixed category series like the FIA-World Endurance Championship and GT World Challenge. :thumb

[chinmay]

Merc better be careful with giving any crumbs to VB ! Luis still has nightmares about that 1 pt. loss to Nico back in 2016. Lewis went for that fastest lap extra point last race just in case ! Enjoy the next race and stay safe !

Since 2017 he got the teammate of his dreams - half a second a lap slower. No competition, downforce or no downforce!!

[Redfive]

Current state of F1?: it's on life support and fading. I think by the time we get to 2022 there will only be fanatical Mercedes fans watching.
Ferrari should pull out and let the series die off. Go enter Indycar, there's actual racing over there.

[Brembo]

Since 2017 he got the teammate of his dreams - half a second a lap slower. No competition, downforce or no downforce!!

And Bottas is the second fastest driver on the track, so Lewis actually has no competition from any team! Talk about dreams coming true! Merc pit stops are also unbelievable.

[chinmay]

And Bottas is the second fastest driver on the track, so Lewis actually has no competition from any team! Talk about dreams coming true! Merc pit stops are also unbelievable.

Bottas is more like 10th fastest driver on grid driving the fastest car.

[Rishu]

I think Bottas has good speed on single lap, it’s his race craft and going for those killer 50-50 moves, where he is found wanting

[Brembo]

Bottas is more like 10th fastest driver on grid driving the fastest car.

But... He's 2nd best only behind the other " Its the car driver ! " Points still count even with all the new F-1 rules. Max is the only hope of at least separating the two top " Cars." If Bottas is 10th fastest on the grid where does that leave Charles? I won't even want to count where Seb would be listed. It's all lack of down force or Ferrari would be at least on the podiums.

[Brembo]

I think Bottas has good speed on single lap, it’s his race craft and going for those killer 50-50 moves, where he is found wanting

Max was found wanting with all his killer 50-50 moves, " Crashstappen! " Look where he is now. Minus Lewis {car!" } Max would probably be the top guy even with a Honda engine no less.

[Silent Bob]

Ya MAx is where he is because he has the 2nd best car. Where was he in 2017, 2018? when he had the 3rd best car?
Max, Leclerc, Norris and Russel are the bright stars of the future. Put all of these guys in competitive cars and then we'd have a show.

[jgonzalesm6]

Ya MAx is where he is because he has the 2nd best car. Where was he in 2017, 2018? when he had the 3rd best car?
Max, Leclerc, Norris and Russel are the bright stars of the future. Put all of these guys in competitive cars and then we'd have a show.

RedBull had the Renault engine so it was underpowered during those years...track dependent of course. Not to mention, Max's driving has matured as of late.

[Silent Bob]

RedBull had the Renault engine so it was underpowered during those years...track dependent of course. Not to mention, Max's driving has matured as of late.

Exactly. That's my point. Now his car is better. As good as he is he can't make his car better than it is. If it's a 3rd place car, he's not going to be WDC unless some strange stars align.As good as Leclerc is, he's not winning the WDC this year in the Ferrari. Max would not be fighting for wins in the Ferrari.

[Brembo]

We Ferrari fans need to be patient as far as the car catching up to Honda & Merc engine wise. Ferrari is new @ F-1 so they need more time than the older teams. 2023 is just around the corner! That's what it sounds like here on our Forum! The podium race should be great!

[Brembo]

Ya MAx is where he is because he has the 2nd best car. Where was he in 2017, 2018? when he had the 3rd best car?
Max, Leclerc, Norris and Russel are the bright stars of the future. Put all of these guys in competitive cars and then we'd have a show.

Max separated the two Merc. I thought Bottas had has, the 2nd best car?

[stefa]

Max separated the two Merc. I thought Bottas had has, the 2nd best car?

You could be a millionaire by now,if you just got a dollar every time you mentioned Max! :lol

[Brembo]

You could be a millionaire by now,if you just got a dollar every time you mentioned Max! :lol

I just can't join the fans here and wait for 2022 to enjoy the F-1 races. Max is the guy who is now shaking things now up even without crashing! Unless you want to only see hear talk about Lewis, or Ferrari's lack of down force! :rotfl

[sxviper698]

My team is Ferrari and always be! F1 changed for me when they got rid of the v8's and has really never been good. Keep this body and reintroduce the v8 and people will come back. Once they go to 4 cylinders i'm done.

[Liscia]

Bad news for Checo Perez on his being tested positive for COVID, ergo not running at Silverstone. I hope it's just mild and that he recovers quickly!

[stefa]

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/150932/hamilton-appreciative-of-grosjean-f1-kneel-uturn

My God he is annoying!!!! :furious

[SS454]

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/150932/hamilton-appreciative-of-grosjean-f1-kneel-uturn

My God he is annoying!!!! :furious

It's an issue as long as Lewis Hamilton keeps making it an issue.

[SS454]

Bad news for Checo Perez on his being tested positive for COVID, ergo not running at Silverstone. I hope it's just mild and that he recovers quickly!

It's possible he has no symptoms at all. But he's still restricted to at least a 14 day quarantine.

[MSC Fan]

That's what drives me crazy. F1/FIA did everything they could to stop Ferrari's dominance yet it seems they do what they can to ensure Mercedes keeps its dominance. I still don't understand why the FIA make a rule to homologate the power units in 2014, a brand new setup and Mercedes have a solid 75 horsepower advantage and are protected by the governing body.

These liberty media people are just fools. Dominations are boring and would cost F1 a whole lot of money because of the leaving fans. Bernie knew this and did his best to boost the entertainment part of F1, giving us some of the most entertaining seasons of all time from 2005-mid 2013 (with the exception of 2011 and first part of 2009). Sometimes I wonder if they forget that F1 is an entertainment sport.

[MSC Fan]

Michael himself has said it that records are made to be broken. Hamilton can win a dozen titles if he wants but he can never claim to enjoy the process of a team rebuilding from being a midfielder to a dominator. He also can't claim to have taken clearly not the best cars to title contention to the very last race as Michael did in 1997, 1998 and 2006 (an achievement only Alonso and Prost can claim other than Michael). He just is lucky enough to get the best seat at the best time just like Vettel.

One more thing to note here is that unlike the Ferrari domination of the '00s or McLaren's domination of the late '80s or Williams domination of '90s, the Mercedes one is completely artificial. Mercedes lobbied to the FIA way back since 2011 to make sure they choose the V6H engines. In fact, they completely threw away their V8 engine development to work on the V6H engines. The one area where they were really weak was the tyre management which was taken care of by the Pirelli private tests. Unlike for Ferrari, the FIA even helped Mercedes dominate more with the 2019 regs. This is such a disgrace to the sport. Is it really any surprise that F1 is making more and more losses every year?

[Brembo]

Every record Lewis breaks and makes will stand until broken . { By Max or Charles! } He's not to be held in contempt for Merc putting him in a great car. If Lewis was not winning in his rocket, then yes I could well understand him being put down as a not GOAT.

[aroutis]

Every record Lewis breaks and makes will stand until broken . { By Max or Charles! } He's not to be held in contempt for Merc putting him in a great car. If Lewis was not winning in his rocket, then yes I could well understand him being put down as a not GOAT.

A GOAT needs to have some sort of competition.
Guess what, FIA has made certain that Lewis has next to null.
So get over with your obession with Michael, Michael is the GOAT and Lewis is not.

[tifosi1993]

Every record Lewis breaks and makes will stand until broken . { By Max or Charles! } He's not to be held in contempt for Merc putting him in a great car. If Lewis was not winning in his rocket, then yes I could well understand him being put down as a not GOAT.

But is it really that simple? I mean do you consider Alonso to be a lesser driver than Hamilton? Do you think Nelson Piguet and Arton Senna are on the same ballpark because of their equal number of titles?

Now, I don't have anything against Hamilton. He had great cars and he delivered. But is he really the goat, based on his number of titles and wins? Statistically, Hamilton will be remembered as the most successful driver of all time, and equally Vettel will be remembered as a better driver than Alonso, but realistically, we all know that's not true.

[nani_s23]

But is it really that simple? I mean do you consider Alonso to be a lesser driver than Hamilton? Do you think Nelson Piguet and Arton Senna are on the same ballpark because of their equal number of titles?

Now, I don't have anything against Hamilton. He had great cars and he delivered. But is he really the goat, based on his number of titles and wins? Statistically, Hamilton will be remembered as the most successful driver of all time, and equally Vettel will be remembered as a better driver than Alonso, but realistically, we all know that's not true.

Titles will never justify the true picture.

Alonso will be remembered as best driver of all time with Schumi/Senna.

Hamilton will be never be in this league nor vettel.

[Brembo]

Seb came to Ferrari just 3 WDCs shy of the record. He's leaving 3 shy. Ferrari for sure thought they had another 7x WDC and more WCCs on top. Lewis already reached F-1 GOAT with his driving accomplishments. Look where he put Merc as a winning team. I can only wish Charles doing it for Ferrari soon. Lewis proved for sure past titles never justify the true picture. He's not in the big league with the big names and he will pass every record. He has 3 more good years easy. 100, 100, 10 will be a shining light in his name, but someone else will come along. I only hope it's someone in a Ferrari!

[jgonzalesm6]

This is why it is utterly ridiculous to compare era's in F1 regarding the cars and tires.

This picture I believe is to scale. The cars are a 1969 312 vs F2004 vs 2018 SF71H

https://twitter.com/karunchandhok/status/1302145652873461761/photo/1

[Brembo]

[QUOTE=jgonzalesm6;1032908]This is why it is utterly ridiculous to compare era's in F1 regarding the cars and tires.

Cars, tires and add in drivers!! Today's drivers drive today's not yesterdays cars and tires. There is no comparison . Great before is not great now, and vise versa.

[MSC Fan]

This is why it is utterly ridiculous to compare era's in F1 regarding the cars and tires.

This picture I believe is to scale. The cars are a 1969 312 vs F2004 vs 2018 SF71H

https://twitter.com/karunchandhok/status/1302145652873461761/photo/1

Modern F1 cars are just boats. No refuelling is killing racing in street circuits.

[nani_s23]

[QUOTE=jgonzalesm6;1032908]This is why it is utterly ridiculous to compare era's in F1 regarding the cars and tires.

Cars, tires and add in drivers!! Today's drivers drive today's not yesterdays cars and tires. There is no comparison . Great before is not great now, and vise versa.

Current is artificial, past is natural. There is hell of a difference.

[Brembo]

[QUOTE=Brembo;1033198]

Current is artificial, past is natural. There is hell of a difference.

So Charles current success @ Ferrari is artificial because Seb didn't get a Michael I'm #1 contract to hold Charles back! Letting Bottas race against Lewis is far more natural and true as to who wins for Merc than the move over wins @ Ferrari in the past. Manuel shifting and having to gas up is not what makes a driver better. It's 2020!! F-E is alive and well !!

[stefa]

[QUOTE=Brembo;1033198]

Current is artificial, past is natural. There is hell of a difference.

Well said...

[nani_s23]

[QUOTE=nani_s23;1033205]

So Charles current success @ Ferrari is artificial because Seb didn't get a Michael I'm #1 contract to hold Charles back! Letting Bottas race against Lewis is far more natural and true as to who wins for Merc than the move over wins @ Ferrari in the past. Manuel shifting and having to gas up is not what makes a driver better. It's 2020!! F-E is alive and well !!

I know where u are getting to. I don’t wanna start it again.
DRS, open to engineers, driver aid, tyre life currently everything is artificial. This is irrespective of vettel’s titles or wtever.

[Brembo]

No more Grid Girls caused most of F-1 s current lack of fan enthusiasm and I believe drivers also.

[MSC Fan]

No more Grid Girls caused most of F-1 s current lack of fan enthusiasm and I believe drivers also.

Haha but most of the """fans""" these days watch that crappy show on Netflix and try to shut people who complain about the current position of our sport by telling that the midfield battle is good. If only those people watched races from say, 2006 to mid 2013. The midfield battle was infinitely better and the battle at the front was even better.

[Brembo]

Watching the mid field battles between the not yet famous drivers is in fact a great way for F-1 fans to truly know; who driver wise and what; team wise is out there for the future. Saintz, Perez, Stroll are just a few names to watch doing what they can with what they have and getting mid field experience big time. Seb could have used that experience now. But 4 WDCs is for sure a comfort to him and his fans from R Bull.

[MSC Fan]

Watching the mid field battles between the not yet famous drivers is in fact a great way for F-1 fans to truly know; who driver wise and what; team wise is out there for the future. Saintz, Perez, Stroll are just a few names to watch doing what they can with what they have and getting mid field experience big time. Seb could have used that experience now. But 4 WDCs is for sure a comfort to him and his fans from R Bull.

It is a good thing for sure but you know the quality in racing has gone down a bit when that is the only thing to look forward to.

[Brembo]

It is a good thing for sure but you know the quality in racing has gone down a bit when that is the only thing to look forward to.

I'm sure all Merc and Lewis' fans are happy with F-1 races. And we F-1 fans almost lost a season to watch. I for one am grateful . 26 seconds behind the last place car and winds up finishing 7th with a fastest lap point added in! And the top 3 drivers had a ball up on the podium.

[Honzus]

I think Kimi has the best point about current state in F1 :-D

https://f1sport.auto.cz/getfile.aspx?id_file=706764230

[tifosi1993]

James Hunt died at the age of 45 due to heart attack. Unsurprising, alcoholics and drug addicts don't live long.

I'm sure most people want to live long. And I'm sure most people, especially those aspiring to become a F1 driver in the future, would follow the footsteps of a soon to become 7xWDC over an alcoholic and junkie one hit wonder.

[JPZ]

I'm sure all Merc and Lewis' fans are happy with F-1 races. And we F-1 fans almost lost a season to watch. I for one am grateful . 26 seconds behind the last place car and winds up finishing 7th with a fastest lap point added in! And the top 3 drivers had a ball up on the podium.

Which would be what percentage of the viewers?

[Brembo]

Which would be what percentage of the viewers?

100% of the Merc fans won't miss a race I'm sure. Max fans will always tune in hoping he can stop Lewis. Bottas is not being held back. He gives Lewis a good run for the money and it makes it worth watching . Since he's with Merc Bottas managed 4 poles ;13 podiums; 8 wins; and 3 top 3 champion finishes. I for one really liked the weekly races, 2 weeks is to long to wait. I always think Charles has a shot at the podium at the start of each race. Once again I say I'm grateful there's a F-1 season.

[Honzus]

James Hunt died at the age of 45 due to heart attack. Unsurprising, alcoholics and drug addicts don't live long.

I'm sure most people want to live long. And I'm sure most people, especially those aspiring to become a F1 driver in the future, would follow the footsteps of a soon to become 7xWDC over an alcoholic and junkie one hit wonder.

Yes, that is the point :pray BTW Eddie Irvine with similar lifestyle died, or not?

[tifosi1993]

Yes, that is the point :pray BTW Eddie Irvine with similar lifestyle died, or not?

Wasn't looking for a competition on who died or not due to being a junkie or alcoholic. But when someone lives badly, they don't usually live long. Obesity, alcohol and drug addiction are not really the sign of a great life style.

And as for the "point", I don't really get what Raikkonen trying to say here. Is he aspiring to become James Hunt? It will be strange if that's the case. Kimi has a family and I though he would want to live long and watch his children grow up. Dying in his 40's with heart attack shouldn't be his goal. I guess all those years of getting dominated by other drivers affected his mental health a bit.

[JPZ]

100% of the Merc fans won't miss a race I'm sure. Max fans will always tune in hoping he can stop Lewis. Bottas is not being held back. He gives Lewis a good run for the money and it makes it worth watching . Since he's with Merc Bottas managed 4 poles ;13 podiums; 8 wins; and 3 top 3 champion finishes. I for one really liked the weekly races, 2 weeks is to long to wait. I always think Charles has a shot at the podium at the start of each race. Once again I say I'm grateful there's a F-1 season.

I mean percentage of F1 fans, maybe 10%?

[ntukza]

100% of the Merc fans won't miss a race I'm sure. Max fans will always tune in hoping he can stop Lewis. Bottas is not being held back. He gives Lewis a good run for the money and it makes it worth watching . Since he's with Merc Bottas managed 4 poles ;13 podiums; 8 wins; and 3 top 3 champion finishes. I for one really liked the weekly races, 2 weeks is to long to wait. I always think Charles has a shot at the podium at the start of each race. Once again I say I'm grateful there's a F-1 season.

I must say, I agree with you. I've watched every race this season and although I'm frequently utterly disappointed by our condition, I often manage to derive enjoyment from the other aspects of F1 races that you've mentioned. I can't wait for next season though! :-D

[Silent Bob]

So far every year where they've locked development on engines has been pretty bad and utterly predictable. If it wasn't for some of these new tracks, and some tire issues, this could be one of the most boring seasons ever, right next to 2014. Same cars in same places at the end of the races and we know next week it's not going to change.
It's not Ferrari that's wasting Leclerc... it's the FIA. Let the teams bring new engines FFS.

[Cmoney]

I´m not a fan of any teams, just F1 itself. But It´s always interesting to watch races and press conferences (like what the drivers in difficult position say) and so on.
And just waiting that interesting 2022 -> era too.
Mostly I hope some penalty by going out of the track. Gravel or grass, or drive-through penalty for every second outing. Or something. Just annoying that a top car driver can celebrate on the podium though he went out of track many times during the race. Reliability and consistency of a driver should be more important matter. + also too damn much grip, just stupid if like 80% of the lap is full throttle. Pouhon in Spa or 3rd and 9th corner in Barcelona don´t need to be flatout.

[Silent Bob]

Can easily put speed bumps on run off areas so drivers have to slow down or risk damage to their cars. Should be just behind the curbs.

[aroutis]

There is nothing enjoyable in a season where Mercedes has a scandalous advantage over other teams, and the whole season is really predictable unless something crazy happens.
I am not saying that because of the current state of Ferrari, I am saying this because of the current stupid set of rules.
I wish that there were rules that allowed for all the teams to be able to rectify their current state with testing like back in the days , bringing components, changing stuff , but the way this goes, within some years F1 will have turn into some sort of full blown spec series.

[Brembo]

After each race the least we Ferrari fans should expect is that Binotto can say, at least we had the tire choices right. 3 practices before the quali. and race should do it. Less downforce and better driving accordingly would help at least to get near a podium.

[JPZ]

There is nothing enjoyable in a season where Mercedes has a scandalous advantage over other teams, and the whole season is really predictable unless something crazy happens.
I am not saying that because of the current state of Ferrari, I am saying this because of the current stupid set of rules.
I wish that there were rules that allowed for all the teams to be able to rectify their current state with testing like back in the days , bringing components, changing stuff , but the way this goes, within some years F1 will have turn into some sort of full blown spec series.

Agreed 100 %.

With the current rules it basically guarantees that if a team starts with the best or dominant car, it will remain that way for the rest of the season.

The result is reduced competition and more predictability at races unless there are accidents or red flags etc.

[Brembo]

An enjoyable read was the interview with Dan reminiscing in detail having Max as his team mate. Max listened to no one , when the race started to the finish he was only concerned about winning , getting points. He got every ounce out of his car. We all know the results. Dan left being knocked out of the #1 spot. Bottas in his Merc and and Max in his R Bull when it's not breaking down make the podiums. I would like to see Charles take the same out look as Max each race . Push what he has to the limit, A safe DNF or a finish out of the points both equal zero points. Stop thinking 2022 Ferrari will begin moving up front. Quick pit stops and somehow figure out the tires and Charles pushing to the max. Dan Max...Michael ! That's not trolling!:rotfl

[MSC Fan]

An enjoyable read was the interview with Dan reminiscing in detail having Max as his team mate. Max listened to no one , when the race started to the finish he was only concerned about winning , getting points. He got every ounce out of his car. We all know the results. Dan left being knocked out of the #1 spot. Bottas in his Merc and and Max in his R Bull when it's not breaking down make the podiums. I would like to see Charles take the same out look as Max each race . Push what he has to the limit, A safe DNF or a finish out of the points both equal zero points. Stop thinking 2022 Ferrari will begin moving up front. Quick pit stops and somehow figure out the tires and Charles pushing to the max. Dan Max...Michael ! That's not trolling!:rotfl

Charles had the nickname of "Cannibal" back in his F3-F2 days. Apparently, someone in the FDA had given it to him because he absolutely destroyed everyone of his teammates. Even Albon in his beyond the grid talks about his unique ability to find grip in literally any car he was given to drive. Perhaps, that is the reason why he sent Ericsson home and is giving Seb a beating I haven't seen a multiple world champion get. I think by 2022, when he would be done with his maturation phase, he would definitely be the best driver on the grid.

[ntukza]

There is nothing enjoyable in a season where Mercedes has a scandalous advantage over other teams, and the whole season is really predictable unless something crazy happens.
I am not saying that because of the current state of Ferrari, I am saying this because of the current stupid set of rules.
I wish that there were rules that allowed for all the teams to be able to rectify their current state with testing like back in the days , bringing components, changing stuff , but the way this goes, within some years F1 will have turn into some sort of full blown spec series.

But then how do you balance that with cost-cutting objectives?

[ntukza]

Charles had the nickname of "Cannibal" back in his F3-F2 days. Apparently, someone in the FDA had given it to him because he absolutely destroyed everyone of his teammates. Even Albon in his beyond the grid talks about his unique ability to find grip in literally any car he was given to drive. Perhaps, that is the reason why he sent Ericsson home and is giving Seb a beating I haven't seen a multiple world champion get. I think by 2022, when he would be done with his maturation phase, he would definitely be the best driver on the grid.

And all this experience of pushing a donkey-Ferrari to its limit week after week will no doubt improve his skills more than his more comfortable counterparts. All that remains is for Ferrari to give him a winner in 2022.

[JPZ]

And all this experience of pushing a donkey-Ferrari to its limit week after week will no doubt improve his skills more than his more comfortable counterparts. All that remains is for Ferrari to give him a winner in 2022.

As a driver, this year will be excellent for him in terms of developing his abilities and experience.

[thecon1878]

F1 is just pure crap the fans should have more input after all we pay the extortionate prices.
why kill all engine upgrades this season is dead and buried. please trend below
#turnoffF1 #turnoffcroftyF1

[Redfive]

I'm so glad to be losing SkyF1 next week, just looking at the SkyF1 programmes coming up tonight

Russian F2 Race 1 replay
When Toto Met Lewis
Alfa Romeo feature
Lewis Hamiltons Secret Cinema
Mercedes
Jensons F1 2011 Memories
Lewis Hamiltons Secret Cinema
Lewis Hamiltons Secret Cinema Silverstone
Russia Qualy Highlights
Lewis in the W196

No matter what day, 40-60% of all the programmes are on Hamilton. in 30 yrs of watching F1, I've never known a TV channel so obsessed over one driver.
Why people still pay for this joke, I just don't know.

[Brembo]

Don't you realize Michael is still held in higher esteem anywhere in F-1 ? I'm sure Michael gave Todt & Brawn the Ok as far as Lewis getting the " Car" @ Merc or we wouldn't even know his name. Wolf always reminds the media; it was Michael that got Merc where they are.

[Rob]

I'm so glad to be losing SkyF1 next week, just looking at the SkyF1 programmes coming up tonight

Russian F2 Race 1 replay
When Toto Met Lewis
Alfa Romeo feature
Lewis Hamiltons Secret Cinema
Mercedes
Jensons F1 2011 Memories
Lewis Hamiltons Secret Cinema
Lewis Hamiltons Secret Cinema Silverstone
Russia Qualy Highlights
Lewis in the W196

No matter what day, 40-60% of all the programmes are on Hamilton. in 30 yrs of watching F1, I've never known a TV channel so obsessed over one driver.
Why people still pay for this joke, I just don't know.

When the channel was launched. It was good. They showed classic seasons. Classic races. 60s, 70s and 80s. Used to like it. But over time, that stopped. Just classic button, herbert and hill races oh and lewis races most time. Its terrible now.

The only light on there is they show some of the ferrari challenge races. Which is on today. Its good racing and gt world challenge europe. Which is on today too.

But, you can watch gt world challenge europe on youtube, and ferrari challenge via ferrari.com corse clienti.