Carlos Sainz watch

[Tifoso Svedese]

Beaten by Norris again, cause for concern?

He did well last year, but so far this year he doesn't really look up for it. Surely he'll at least hold Bottas' level but I'm having some doubts about this signing. Might should've waited a bit longer. Hopefully he'll gel better with the car than Vettel, but I'm having a suspicion that Sainz risks being a mere stop-gap #2 in waiting for one of our youngsters, Norris or Russell unless he finds the mojo from last year again. To be honest, I think he'll be dreading going up against Leclerc a bit at the moment.

We'll see I guess.

[FerrariF60]

So, should we have gotten Norris instead....or maybe get Kimi for one more year

[jgonzalesm6]

Carlos should stay at Mclaren. At least he will beat a Ferrari....maybe both Ferrari's track dependent.

Yes, he's getted skewered by Norris.

[tifosi1993]

That's the exact reason why Ferrari choose him. Sorry to pour water on some peoples expectation, but Sainz isn't anything special. He's a solid driver and a good number 2 for Charles.

If some people really thought Sainz to be as special as the likes of Charles or Max.....then oh well.

[Schumiklub]

He’s no match for Charles. He’ll be a good #2.


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[Tifoso Svedese]

I don't rate Norris anywhere near Max or Charles, so it's a bit bothersome. Something tells me we may be on the lookout for Norris as #2 within a year or two unless Sainz can raise his game while at us.

[Liscia]

I've never seen much fire in Sainz in all the years he's been in F1. Hopefully he ups his game, collects some points and mainly stays out of Leclerc's way.

[paolo lalli]

True but he must be better than what vettal is.At this point Ferrari is a one man team it's all on Charles shoulders and he is handling the pressure well to date.

[Stormsearcher]

That's the exact reason why Ferrari choose him. Sorry to pour water on some peoples expectation, but Sainz isn't anything special. He's a solid driver and a good number 2 for Charles.

If some people really thought Sainz to be as special as the likes of Charles or Max.....then oh well.

+1

[Stormsearcher]

I don't rate Norris anywhere near Max or Charles, so it's a bit bothersome. Something tells me we may be on the lookout for Norris as #2 within a year or two unless Sainz can raise his game while at us.

Norris is very good. May not be Lec or Max level (yet), but hes not a no.2 driver at all.

[KimiBot]

Beaten by Norris again, cause for concern?

He did well last year.

Yes, 96-49 last year, I am not worried, he is stable and does not make mistakes, perfect Nr2 for Ferrari.

[nani_s23]

Ferrari considered sainz just because he can collect good points with no mistakes. Also he’s not much No.1 material & political. Which doesn’t cause any problem to ferrari & Leclerc.

[JHAMMER]

Ferrari considered sainz just because he can collect good points with no mistakes. Also he’s not much No.1 material & political. Which doesn’t cause any problem to ferrari & Leclerc.

He's only a good choice if he can get podiums and take points away from Charles closest rivals.

[Tifoso Svedese]

It's hard to tell what a drivers' capacity is moving from team to team, but since this year's and 2021 Ferrari will have to be driven at low downforce to even stand a chance and McLaren have always been dependent on corner speed, it's likely to be a tough transformation for Sainz. He'll need to chance his driving style completely. Also since the 2022 cars will be even slower in the corners, that has me concerned there too. The most important thing is: if the car would be fast enough for a pole in 2022, can Sainz be on the front row? That was the issue with Kimi most of the time, that he couldn't, which left Vettel to fight both grey cars alone.

[F2008]

Not really, just bad luck.

In the first Silverstone race he was running in P5 before his front left tyre punctured on the last lap. In the second race he lost a lot of time during the first pit stop which really compromised his race.

[Redfive]

It's looking like Sainz is going to be our Bottas. It's not something I like in the least but it looks like that to me.

[nani_s23]

Sainz will do a good job, more than bottas I think. Because his race craft is good. Tyre management too is better.

[Tony]

Sainz will be there as the number 2, he's not expected to be the fastest racer available.

The fact Ferrari are going with 2 young divers should tell us all something, they're not setting their sights on titles for the next few years...

[FerrariF60]

Sainz will be there as the number 2, he's not expected to be the fastest racer available.

The fact Ferrari are going with 2 young divers should tell us all something, they're not setting their sights on titles for the next few years...

well, i personally think that charles even though is young, i'm think he can win the championship IF HE HAD a championship winning car.....but sadly, Ferrari have failed to do so....and NOT just with him, with all the good enough drivers they've had since 2009

[Kingdom Hearts]

Gotta love how people here ignore all the issues Sainz had this last races.

[ss-89]

Gotta love how people here ignore all the issues Sainz had this last races.

Yep his tyre blew out in the last race and he was screwed by a bad pitstop this race. He's a solid racer and a good foil for Leclerc. Will keep him honest whilst also getting us solid points finishes. Also note he only had 11 points after first 5 races in 2019 yet finished 6th overall. Consistency matters.

[Brembo]

Sainz will be there as the number 2, he's not expected to be the fastest racer available.

The fact Ferrari are going with 2 young divers should tell us all something, they're not setting their sights on titles for the next few years...

Max is 22 yrs. old and R Bulls main man. It's how bad the driver want's to win. Right now Max and his Honda R Bull are Lewis' main competition. A young driver is a plus not a minus. Compare Seb or even Kimi with Max or Charles! Also there will be less stresssss for Binotto telling Carlos to let him pass when it needs to be done. Massa just quit F-E ! I wonder if he could have been a better choice to replace Seb had Ferrari known ? Stroll is for sure a driver to watch. Ambition and not bad results! 5th place in Spain!

[Tifoso Svedese]

That's definitely more like it from Sainz. Hopefully he'll have the measure of Norris the rest of the season now so he can come in filled with confidence.

[Brembo]

Saintz looking great! Charles looking and is great when he has a car. Come next season who will be on 1st @ Ferrari? Both contracts are probably done. Too late to do a Shumy. Binotto will be put to the test again. Any and all car improvements will be ruined if these two drivers knock each other out .

[MSC Fan]

Saintz looking great! Charles looking and is great when he has a car. Come next season who will be on 1st @ Ferrari? Both contracts are probably done. Too late to do a Shumy. Binotto will be put to the test again. Any and all car improvements will be ruined if these two drivers knock each other out .

He will get outpaced I'm afraid. Charles is consistently beating Seb who even with current form will drive circles around at least 15 out of the 20 drivers on the current grid. We are being robbed from seeing the talents of both drivers because of a car that is incredibly hard to drive and incredibly slow at that.

[Brembo]

I agree that Charles is that great. But will Saintz do a Charles on Charles like Charles did to Seb? If allowed ?

[MSC Fan]

I agree that Charles is that great. But will Saintz do a Charles on Charles like Charles did to Seb? If allowed ?

He is a great driver but I don't think that will happen. He got easily outpaced by quite a margin by Nico Hulkenberg but crazier things have happened before. So as of now, I would say that it is very unlikely.

[Stormsearcher]

I agree that Charles is that great. But will Saintz do a Charles on Charles like Charles did to Seb? If allowed ?

He wont be allowed.
Even if he is, hes very good no doubt, i doubt he is as good as charles.

[MSC Fan]

He wont be allowed.
Even if he is, hes very good no doubt, i doubt he is as good as charles.

If Carlos is genuinely faster than Charles, it won't be long before the men at Maranello decide to change their priorities. But like you said, it really is doubtful for him to come close to Charles. Charles is making Seb, a 4x WDC and a really top driver (don't be fooled by his mistakes made on undrivable cars, his pace is good enough to destroy all but 4 drivers on the grid) look like an amateur in what is essentially a safety hazard of a car. We need to remember that the reason he wasn't able to do well in 2018 was because the 2018 Renault didn't suit his driving style, hence indicating that adaptation isn't his strength (a field where Charles is a master). So in the case that the 2021 car is as undrivable as the SF1000, Carlos will likely get whitewashed.

[Stormsearcher]

If Carlos is genuinely faster than Charles, it won't be long before the men at Maranello decide to change their priorities.
Yes. and thats how it should be.

in what is essentially a safety hazard of a car. :rotfl

We need to remember that the reason he wasn't able to do well in 2018 was because the 2018 Renault didn't suit his driving style, hence indicating that adaptation isn't his strength (a field where Charles is a master). So in the case that the 2021 car is as undrivable as the SF1000, Carlos will likely get whitewashed. yes. most likely. however if the car suits him, we could have the strongest pairing in F1.

[Tifoso Svedese]

It's better he does those mistakes now than next year but genuinely what the hell was that? :Hmm

[KimiBot]

just too greedy, did not want to lose so many places, and forgot that wall :-D

[Tifoso Svedese]

just too greedy, did not want to lose so many places, and forgot that wall :-D

One of those moments when you just want to radio in "ok dammit guys I took a freaking crash, this bad" :-D