Formula 1 Heineken Grande Prémio De Portugal 2020 - Practice & Qualifying

[stefa]

Wow :-E 40 minutes into first session and there is no thread?!

[tifosi1993]

FP1, early runs done.

Hamilton: 23.035--30.842--25.649--1:19.526

Leclerc: 23.326--30.647--25.680--1:19.653

Bottas: 23.435--30.850--25.647--1:19.932

[tifosi1993]

Max speed:

Stroll 331 kph




Vettel 319 kph


Leclerc 315 kph

[Ferrarichamp]

Charles looking good so far.

[MSC Fan]

We look competitive on hards.

[ferrari1.8t]

We look competitive on hards.

From espnf1

“Leclerc improves to a 1:19.324. Verstappen pops up in fourth with a 1:19.719 on the hards. So on like-for-like tyres the Ferrari is faster than the Red Bull at this stage of the weekend.”

[tifosi1993]

Ferrari very good in the sector 2 and 3, even on long runs. Both Lec and Vet matching Max's pace, and all three of them on hard tyres.

[tifosi1993]

FP1 best sector and lap times (Mercedes on Medium tyres, Both Ferrari and Red Bull on Hard Tyres)

Bottas: 22.835--30.126--25.449--1:18.410

Hamilton: 22.911--30.197--25.595--1:18.749

Verstappen: 22.887--30.386--25.787--1:19.191

Leclerc: 23.046--30.445--25.680--1:19.309

Albon: 22.854--30.441--25.928--1:19.365

Sainz: 23.124--30.311--25.942--1:19.441

Perez: 23.315--30.789--25.680--1:19.907

Raikkonen: 23.367--30.637--25.768--1:19.954

Ricciardo: 23.286--30.904--25.783--1:20.058

Gasly: 23.101--30.724--25.846--1:20.124

Vettel: 23.162--30.819--25.807--1:20.200

Norris: 22.986--30.561--25.974--1:20.207

Kvyat: 23.060--30.949--26.041--1:20.278

Magnussen: 23.569--31.007--26.270--1:20.846

Stroll: 23.338--30.893--26.265--1:20.954

Giovinazzi: 23.645--31.313--25.981--1:21.009

Grosjean: 23.645--31.106--26.255--1:21.169

Russell: 23.793--31.307--26.274--1:21.374

Ocon: 23.520--31.345--26.338--1:21.673

Latifi 23.893--31.456--26.378--1:22.054

[tifosi1993]

FP1 Max Speed:

Perez 335
Stroll 331
Bottas 330
Sainz 330
Gasly 330
Kvyat 328
Giovinazzi 328
Grosjean 328
Russell 327
Hamilton 326
Ocon 326
Raikkonen 324
Vettel 324
Latifi 324
Ricciardo 320
Norris 320
Albon 318
Magnussen 318
Verstappen 317
Leclerc 315

[Brembo]

Charles is right up there with the 3 big boys! A podium finish is possible! Stefa thanks for starting this thread. Tifosi , glad you were here!

[h3ro]

What a fun track! Looks like such an old school track with all the undulation and off camber turns. In fact, I did a double take because some of the turns look straight out of Interlagos. Should be fun visuals for the race!

Charles looking handy with the new package changes. Well done to the team, I'm sure working under such scrutiny, stress couldn't have made for a fun work environment.

[MSC Fan]

What a fun track! Looks like such an old school track with all the undulation and off camber turns. In fact, I did a double take because some of the turns look straight out of Interlagos. Should be fun visuals for the race!

Charles looking handy with the new package changes. Well done to the team, I'm sure working under such scrutiny, stress couldn't have made for a fun work environment.

I agree. The track looks like a dream to drive around. I hope it also provides some good racing and not be like India where it is incredibly fun to hotlap but produces horrible racing.

[MSC Fan]

They're apparently testing 2021 tyres for the first 30 minutes of FP2.

[subfire91]

it seems that our updates only work when we are deep in the **** hole.

when on top we cannot handle it

[MSC Fan]

it seems that our updates only work when we are deep in the **** hole.

when on top we cannot handle it

To be fair, they seemed to work extremely well last year as well and did good in 2017. 2018 was where they absolutely dropped the ball.

[stefa]

Charles is right up there with the 3 big boys! A podium finish is possible! Stefa thanks for starting this thread. Tifosi , glad you were here!
:thumb

[tifosi1993]

it seems that our updates only work when we are deep in the **** hole.

when on top we cannot handle it

It worked in the entire 2017 season, also last year with the Singapore upgrade.

[jgonzalesm6]

Gasly's car is literally toast.

Glad he's okay.

Red Flag.

[tifosi1993]

Stroll hits Verstappen

[tifosi1993]

F3 School yard level racing. Both needs to get the book thrown at them.

[jgonzalesm6]

Both Max and Stroll under investigation.

[PURE PASSION]

Stroll hits Verstappen

Or Ves torpedoed Stroll !!!!!!!:-D
to me they both are in fault. They both force this accident

[h3ro]

What a ridiculous collision. Egos getting in the way of getting work done. Stupid school children errors on both drivers.

[tifosi1993]

Or Ves torpedoed Stroll !!!!!!!:-D
to me they both are in fault. They both force this accident

One shouldn't be in F1 to begin with, the other one is hot headed. Both needs a grid drop.

[KimiBot]

"Lance did not know that Max was there"-Otmar...lol

[PURE PASSION]

"Lance did not know that Max was there"-Otmar...lol

someone should tell him ,that one of Merc accessories that they have on the car, they called MIRRORS!!!!!!

[PURE PASSION]

One shouldn't be in F1 to begin with, the other one is hot headed. Both needs a grid drop.

:thumb:thumb:thumb

[jgonzalesm6]

Not of fan of NASCAR but they do alot of team radio about traffic on the right or left of the lead car.

Why can't team radio do the same...in this case to Strol. "Traffic on your right....traffic on your right."

[KimiBot]

Not of fan of NASCAR but they do alot of team radio about traffic on the right or left of the lead car.

Why can't team radio do the same...in this case to Strol. "Traffic on your right....traffic on your right."

maybe they just assume that driver can think self, like..."yes, I saw Max trying to overtake me, and now I can not see Max in my mirror, and he is not ahead, so he must be on my side" IDK :lol

[tifosi1993]

FP2 Result:

Bottas: 22.503---29.978---25.459---1:17.940

Verstappen: 22.734---30.165---25.636---1:18.535 (mediums)

Norris: 22.634---30.278---25.831---1:18.743

Leclerc: 22.857---30.246---25.575---1:18.838 (mediums)

Sainz: 22.750---30.228---26.058---1:19.113

Vettel: 22.969---30.279---25.775---1:19.175 (mediums)

Gasly: 22.737---30.433---25.848---1:19.178

Hamilton: 22.620---30.252---26.020---1:19.308

Ocon: 23.064---30.441---25.946---1:19.496

Albon: 22.904---30.434---26.130---1:19.643

Russell: 23.130---30.817---25.874---1:19.821

Perez: 23.313---30.465---26.123---1:19.901

Ricciardo: 23.135---30.856---25.996---1:19.987

Latifi: 23.131---30.817---26.517---1:20.465

Raikkonen: 23.303---31.037---26.150---1:20.490

Magnussen: 23.348---30.862---26.470---1:20.680

Kvyat: 22.965---30.518---26.217---1:20.729

Grosjean: 23.468---30.960---26.396---1:20.867

Stroll: 23.186---30.828---26.333---1:20.983

Giovinazzi: 23.578---30.970---26.096---1:21.396

[nani_s23]

FP2 Result:

Bottas: 22.503---29.978---25.459---1:17.940

Verstappen: 22.734---30.165---25.636---1:18.535 (mediums)

Norris: 22.634---30.278---25.831---1:18.743

Leclerc: 22.857---30.246---25.575---1:18.838 (mediums)

Sainz: 22.750---30.228---26.058---1:19.113

Vettel: 22.969---30.279---25.775---1:19.175 (mediums)

Gasly: 22.737---30.433---25.848---1:19.178

Hamilton: 22.620---30.252---26.020---1:19.308

Ocon: 23.064---30.441---25.946---1:19.496

Albon: 22.904---30.434---26.130---1:19.643

Russell: 23.130---30.817---25.874---1:19.821

Perez: 23.313---30.465---26.123---1:19.901

Ricciardo: 23.135---30.856---25.996---1:19.987

Latifi: 23.131---30.817---26.517---1:20.465

Raikkonen: 23.303---31.037---26.150---1:20.490

Magnussen: 23.348---30.862---26.470---1:20.680

Kvyat: 22.965---30.518---26.217---1:20.729

Grosjean: 23.468---30.960---26.396---1:20.867

Stroll: 23.186---30.828---26.333---1:20.983

Giovinazzi: 23.578---30.970---26.096---1:21.396

Rest all are on Softs?

[stefa]

"Lance did not know that Max was there"-Otmar...lol

That is way there are those things called SIDE MIRRORS!!!! One need to look in them from time to time!!!!!

[MSC Fan]

Rest all are on Softs?

Don't know about everyone but Hamilton, Bottas, Norris and Sainz were on softs.

[jgonzalesm6]

The Stroll-Max Incident is reminescent of the Max-Ocon incident at the BrazilianGP 2018.

Max was in the lead and Ocon (about to get lapped by Max) takes out Max in the esses at Interlagos.

Ocon recieved a 10sec. timed penalty from the stewards.

[wisepie]

Certainly looking more promising for Charles and Seb in FP, but those Mclarens keep getting in the way. Hope they can maintain this upward trend through the weekend and into Imola. Their top speed seems way down compared to others, though, even Alfa.:Hmm

[jgonzalesm6]

No penalty for both Max and Stroll regarding their incident.

[MSC Fan]

Certainly looking more promising for Charles and Seb in FP, but those Mclarens keep getting in the way. Hope they can maintain this upward trend through the weekend and into Imola. Their top speed seems way down compared to others, though, even Alfa.:Hmm

The Maccas were on softs.

[chinmay]

Vettel:


Charles drove with the new floor in the morning, I drove with it in the afternoon. But I felt very comfortable.

[Brembo]

No penalty for both Max and Stroll regarding their incident.

Of course no penalties ; it's just practice. :rotfl

[tifosi1993]

https://i.imgur.com/E1xCSkX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/VSx2RvT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/woHPmYG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/yq38ix2.jpg

[wisepie]

The Maccas were on softs.

Thanks for that, I hadn't initially realised we were on mediums so it's a positive step for sure.

[Brembo]

Al the drivers seem to really like the rack. But they all find it slippery on the new asphalt . I hope Seb will be OK .

[tifosi1993]

Good long run pace from Charles at the end of FP3, a bit slower than Hamilton but that's to be expected. Fact is, with our current engine, at a track like Portimao with long straight and long flowing corners, we are only 6 tenths behind, which is a quite encouraging sign. I know at the the end of qualifying the gap will be bigger, but still, Ferrari's recent small upgrades and aero modifications have given them a positive step forward.

[tifosi1993]

FP3 (best sectors, lap times and max speed)

Bottas: --- 22.285 --- 29.366 --- 24.890 --- 1:16.654 --- 328

Hamilton: --- 22.283 --- 29.250 --- 24.868 --- 1:16.680 --- 327

Verstappen: --- 22.150 --- 29.510 --- 24.953 --- 1:16.812 --- 325

Gasly: --- 22.302 --- 29.619 --- 24.968 --- 1:16.930 --- 323

Albon: --- 22.303 --- 29.495 --- 24.975 --- 1:17.117 --- 323

Leclerc: --- 22.474 --- 29.636 --- 25.119 --- 1:17.229 --- 321

Sainz: --- 22.342 --- 29.604 --- 25.164 --- 1:17.238 --- 326

Perez: --- 22.416 --- 29.651 --- 25.138 --- 1:17.297 --- 323

Norris: --- 22.469 --- 29.803 --- 25.137 --- 1:17.478 --- 324

Ocon: --- 22.534 --- 29.953 --- 25.085 --- 1:17.666 --- 328

Vettel: --- 22.661 --- 29.763 --- 25.024 --- 1:17.685 --- 317

Kvyat: --- 22.478 --- 29.847 --- 25.307 --- 1:17.720 --- 325

Raikkonen: ---22.703 --- 29.962 --- 25.203 --- 1:17.922 --- 324

Ricciardo: --- 22.795 --- 29.871 --- 25.155 --- 1:17.935 --- 325

Russell: --- 22.633 --- 30.000 --- 25.217 --- 1:18.032 --- 328

Stroll: --- 22.474 --- 29.921 --- 25.386 --- 1:18.100 --- 324

Giovinazzi: --- 22.710 --- 29.924 --- 25.279 --- 1:18.201 --- 323

Magnussen: --- 22.737 --- 29.975 --- 25.346 --- 1:18.287 --- 316

Latifi: --- 22.730 --- 30.231 --- 25.423 --- 1:18.397 --- 326

Grosjean: --- 22.803 --- 29.895 --- 25.383 --- 1:18.454 --- 319

[jgonzalesm6]

Fact is, with our current engine, at a track like Portimao with long straight and long flowing corners,.....

Also, the track got resurfaced and has'nt got "rubbered in" since the resurface hence as to why practically everyone is "slip slidden away."

[PURE PASSION]

Didn't see FP3. From the results doesnt look THAT good like yesterday???!!!!

[nani_s23]

Didn't see FP3. From the results doesnt look THAT good like yesterday???!!!!

Watch it without expectations for this season.

[KimiBot]

so 30 minutes delayed

[KimiBot]

any rumors that Perez going to RB ?

[tifosi1993]

If only we had a good engine for the sector 1 and those long fast corners....

[patrese86]

If only we had a good engine for the sector 1 and those long fast corners....

Hopefully next year. Won't be enough to win the championship but hopefully more competitive. Engine can't be any worse so at least there's that..

[tifosi1993]

Raikkonen P15 :thumb

Edit: Out of Q1 :-s

[tifosi1993]

Q1 (Mercedes, Max, Charles)

Sector 1:

Hamilton 22.274
Max 22.357
Bottas 22.373
Charles 22.640

Sector 2:
Hamilton 22.309
Max 29.442
Bottas 22.532
Charles 22.680

Sector 3:
Bottas 24.961
Max 25.064
Charles 25.101
Hamilton 25.203

[tifosi1993]

Ferrari out on mediums :Hmm

[tifosi1993]

Leclerc out on new mediums, so is Vettel. Don't know what Ferrari is playing at...

[patrese86]

Don't get why vettel is going out on mediums again

[jgonzalesm6]

Don't get why vettel is going out on mediums again

playing the long game in the race.

[tifosi1993]

Don't get why vettel is going out on mediums again

It's not like giving him the softs going to improve his positions, he will start out side P10 regardless.

But they took unnecessary risk with Charles, which paid off in the end.

[Schumiklub]

Charles in Q3 with medium tires. Awesome job!


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[patrese86]

playing the long game in the race.


No because he could of used some softs, qualified 11th and had free choice. Now we've used another set of mediums and will use another new set in the race. Pointless going out on mediums when your 6 tenths slower than your teammate

[jgonzalesm6]

No because he could of used some softs, qualified 11th and had free choice. Now we've used another set of mediums and will use another new set in the race. Pointless going out on mediums when your 6 tenths slower than your teammate

softs would not have helped Vettels time into Q3.

[patrese86]

It's not like giving him the softs going to improve his positions, he will start out side P10 regardless.

But they took unnecessary risk with Charles, which paid off in the end.

Do you see any other team sending out a driver on mediums who is six tenths slower than his team mate on the same compound. You might as well stick softs on him and get him as high up the grid as possible. You either end up top 10 or you finish higher than 15th and still get a free choice. We did neither and end up 15th.

[ntukza]

No because he could of used some softs, qualified 11th and had free choice. Now we've used another set of mediums and will use another new set in the race. Pointless going out on mediums when your 6 tenths slower than your teammate

Great point!

[tifosi1993]

Do you see any other team sending out a driver on mediums who is six tenths slower than his team mate on the same compound. You might as well stick softs on him and get him as high up the grid as possible. You either end up top 10 or you finish higher than 15th and still get a free choice. We did neither and end up 15th.

But giving him softs would not have changed anything. I don't think he could do 1m17.4 with softs. And his mediums are pretty fresh, only did 3 laps.

[patrese86]

But giving him softs would not have changed anything. I don't think he could do 1m17.4 with softs. And his mediums are pretty fresh, only did 3 laps.

My point is he could of gone faster on the softs than the mediums so at worst we still qualify outside the top 10 but at least a little higher and get free choice. Sending vettel on on mediums when he's over half a lap slower than Leclerc was just condemning him to a terrible lap time. What's the point even getting out of q1 if we are going to do that.

[jgonzalesm6]

Damn.....Leclerc is awesome!!!!

[Schumiklub]

Charles is the bomb!


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[KimiBot]

Great lap Charles

[patrese86]

If Charles can get 4th it would be the best he could do

[tifosi1993]

CHARLES P4. ONLY 0.438 SECONDS BEHIND THE MERC. WHAT A STAR. :clap

[patrese86]

Brilliant by Charles

[Peter De La Mar]

Amazing lap by Charles.

[drax]

Charles amazing quali

[nani_s23]

Lec vs max Tomorrow..... supreme vs hot headed:-D
Pay back time

[Schumiklub]

Wow Charles! Just wow!


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[alfaromeo]

Very very good lap time for leclerk :clap

[nani_s23]

Great lap Charles

We don’t have race pace. Charles been doing amazing in quali, but falling down in race due to our engine.

[KimiBot]

It was tight, but GOAT did beat his mediocre team mate. :lol

[alfaromeo]

I am even more pleased with the fact that Ferrari's updates work and with the new 2021 engine and the operation of the new simulator for 2022, I am becoming optimistic.

[jgonzalesm6]

We don’t have race pace. Charles been doing amazing in quali, but falling down in race due to our engine.

yep....:-s

[alfaromeo]

Sim race today for leclerk ok in q3 ...

[MSC Fan]

What on earth was that lap?!

[Warp]

Vettel very honest about the comparison to Leclerc: "There is nothing I can do right now. He's driving in another league. Even if I have a good lap he's still quicker."

via Tobi Grüner (https://twitter.com/tgruener/status/1320009407883808773).

[tifosi1993]

Qualifying Top 10 (best sectors and max speed)

Hamilton: --- 22.266 --- 29.292 --- 25.035 --- 1:16.652 --- 327

Bottas(:lol): --- 22.221 --- 29.262 --- 24.923 --- 1:16.754 --- 325

Verstappen: --- 22.266 --- 29.371 --- 25.064 --- 1:16.904 --- 317

Leclerc: --- 22.440 --- 29.465 --- 25.101 --- 1:17.090 --- 317

Perez: --- 22.392 --- 29.506 --- 25.164 --- 1:17.223 --- 327

Albon: --- 22.340 --- 29.628 --- 25.176 --- 1:17.437 --- 319

Sainz: --- 22.263 --- 29.539 --- 25.335 --- 1:17.520 --- 330

Norris: --- 22.277 --- 29.758 --- 25.237 --- 1:17.525 --- 327

Gasly: --- 22.279 --- 29.624 --- 25.159 --- 1:17.803 --- 323

Ricciardo (Crash)

[jgonzalesm6]

Vettel very honest about the comparison to Leclerc: "There is nothing I can do right now. He's driving in another league. Even if I have a good lap he's still quicker."

via Tobi Grüner (https://twitter.com/tgruener/status/1320009407883808773).

No kidding. Some of us have noticed that in 2019!!!

[jgonzalesm6]

Qualifying Top 10 (best sectors and max speed)

Hamilton: --- 22.266 --- 29.292 --- 25.035 --- 1:16.652 --- 327

Bottas(:lol): --- 22.221 --- 29.262 --- 24.923 --- 1:16.754 --- 325

Verstappen: --- 22.266 --- 29.371 --- 25.064 --- 1:16.904 --- 317

Leclerc: --- 22.440 --- 29.465 --- 25.101 --- 1:17.090 --- 317

Perez: --- 22.392 --- 29.506 --- 25.164 --- 1:17.223 --- 327

Albon: --- 22.340 --- 29.628 --- 25.176 --- 1:17.437 --- 319

Sainz: --- 22.263 --- 29.539 --- 25.335 --- 1:17.520 --- 330

Norris: --- 22.277 --- 29.758 --- 25.237 --- 1:17.525 --- 327

Gasly: --- 22.279 --- 29.624 --- 25.159 --- 1:17.803 --- 323

Ricciardo (Crash)

And that's because the Merc's were on Mediums......jeeeeeez!!!

[PURE PASSION]

And that's because the Merc's were on Mediums......jeeeeeez!!!

Well it looks like in this track under those conditions ,the mediums was on par if not quicker then the softs!!!!

[tifosi1993]

And that's because the Merc's were on Mediums......jeeeeeez!!!

"Mediums are slower than softs"...only according to Pirelli. I don't think realistically, there is any meaningful difference between the C3 and C4. The C4 has better warm up, but the C3 has higher operating window. And compared to Bottas, who was on softs and Max also on softs, Charles's lap was mighty impressive. Both Charles and Ferrari are improving (chassis side, pitwall and pitcrew are rubbish).

Now we need a better engine.

[jgonzalesm6]

Well it looks like in this track under those conditions ,the mediums was on par if not quicker then the softs!!!!

agreed.......everyone else was on soft though.

[alfaromeo]

Yes for Mercedes in track are yellow better how will be in the race we will see...

[tifosi1993]

Vettel very honest about the comparison to Leclerc: "There is nothing I can do right now. He's driving in another league. Even if I have a good lap he's still quicker."

via Tobi Grüner (https://twitter.com/tgruener/status/1320009407883808773).

Straight from the horse's mouth. His fans need to acknowledge and gasp this simple fact, Charles is faster and better. Blaming Ferrari or implying rubbish conspiracy theories is only making them look stupid.

[PURE PASSION]

agreed.......everyone else was on soft though.

And they did a run on softs slower then their medium run !! if the softs where quicker,they would stick to them !!

[MSC Fan]

At this point, he has to be the best qualifier on the grid, right?

[Warp]

Straight from the horse's mouth. His fans need to acknowledge and gasp this simple fact, Charles is faster and better. Blaming Ferrari or implying rubbish conspiracy theories is only making them look stupid.

Props to Vettel for being honest too!

[Schumiklub]

Vettel very honest about the comparison to Leclerc: "There is nothing I can do right now. He's driving in another league. Even if I have a good lap he's still quicker."

via Tobi Grüner (https://twitter.com/tgruener/status/1320009407883808773).

I just wonder what would have happened if Charles was in the car in 2018.


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[Warp]

I just wonder what would have happened if Charles was in the car in 2018.


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Not sure. Ferrari made alot of mistakes too and we had a few no working updates aswell. Very hard to predict!

[Schumiklub]

Not sure. Ferrari made alot of mistakes too and we had a few no working updates aswell. Very hard to predict!

True that, but at least he would have (probably) scored more points than Kimi to keep Seb’s title chances alive longer.


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[Aziz]

Is this the first time we are under 0.5s off pole?

[ntukza]

Leclerc reckons the race performance will be better than in Germany. I'm looking forward to the race.

Also, it's strange that our drivers qualified 11 positions apart. No incidents, no hiccups, same upgrades, same tyres. That's just unbelievable. I wonder if this is the biggest teammate gap in history with everything else being equal.

[alfa84]

Great Leclerc!:clap
This is of the few reasons to watch F1 now.

[wisepie]

Leclerc reckons the race performance will be better than in Germany. I'm looking forward to the race.

Also, it's strange that our drivers qualified 11 positions apart. No incidents, no hiccups, same upgrades, same tyres. That's just unbelievable. I wonder if this is the biggest teammate gap in history with everything else being equal.

A mightily impressive lap from Charles for P4 on mediums, just hope that our race pace doesn't allow him to fall back as in previous races, it looks like overtaking possibilities may be minimal, which may help us. The gap to Seb amounts roughly to half a second and 11 positions, he locked up on each attempt, a driver of his calibre should be able to handle these tyres by now but he's constantly shown up by Charles, he has seriously lost his ability to justify his retention in the team.:Hmm

[Tifoso Svedese]

Due to the track layout we might have a chance to keep Charles in P4 all day which would be great progress! He did a world-class phenomenal job yet another Saturday and hopefully it's going to pay dividends tomorrow. Basically, one issue of the top three away from a third podium of the season - assuming those behind can't get past this time. Given he gets to start on the yellows, I really hope that is the case.

As for the other driver with a best by date of July 2018, no comments. I just find it very hard to believe that the deliverer of the Suzuka lap last year performs like this.

[paolo lalli]

Vettal is cooked no matter where he goes he will be racing in pure agony retire with dignity.charles with a competitive engine would mop the floor with all.Sir hamilton would crap in his boots his saving grace is simply an underperforming ferrari.Hamilton knows this head to head with Charles Hamilton would be 2nd.

[tifosi1993]

Adaptability is the best qualify a racing driver can have. Driver with strong adaptability let the car do all the hard work aka Leclerc, driver with low/weak adaptability aka Vettel pushes hard and fights with the car and the steering, hence they lose lap times. No matter what the team does with the setup, if the driver can't adapt, there's no hope for him.

But the scary (or positive, whatever way you look at it) thing about Charles is, he has the adaptable, which is already the mark of a great driver and a world champion, but he also possesses the raw speed. Example Alonso, had the adaptability, but he lacked the raw speed. Charles is unique in that regard, he has the adaptability + raw speed.

Ferrari must provide this kid with the right car. Can't wait to see what Leclerc can do with a car like the SF70/SF71.

[jgonzalesm6]

Adaptability is the best qualify a racing driver can have. Driver with strong adaptability let the car do all the hard work aka Leclerc, driver with low/weak adaptability aka Vettel pushes hard and fights with the car and the steering, hence they lose lap times. No matter what the team does with the setup, if the driver can't adapt, there's no hope for him.

But the scary (or positive, whatever way you look at it) thing about Charles is, he has the adaptable, which is already the mark of a great driver and a world champion, but he also possesses the raw speed. Example Alonso, had the adaptability, but he lacked the raw speed. Charles is unique in that regard, he has the adaptability + raw speed.

Ferrari must provide this kid with the right car. Can't wait to see what Leclerc can do with a car like the SF70/SF71.

Yep. Look at Seb from coming off of 4x WDC titles. In 2014, due to the formula change, Ricciardo beat Seb at RedBull....by alot of points.

And now we have Leclerc. Both Charles and Ricciardo are adaptable drivers. I loved it when Ricciardo was penalized, I believe 2 races ago, and team radioed to him "You have a 5sec penatly for cutting the chicane(track limits)" and Ricciardo's reponse was mind-blowning. He did'nt even get flustered by it. Ricciardo said, "No problem, I'll make it up and drive faster" (something to that effect).

Both are great drivers and are adaptable.

Can't say much for Lewis. He's had fast cars since he started in F1. I would'nt know how adaptable he would be.

[Stormsearcher]

I loved it when Ricciardo was penalized, I believe 2 races ago, and team radioed to him "You have a 5sec penatly for cutting the chicane(track limits)" and Ricciardo's reponse was mind-blowning. He did'nt even get flustered by it. Ricciardo said, "No problem, I'll make it up and drive faster" (something to that effect).
Yup. That response from Ric was epic. Such a calm head on his shoulders.


Can't say much for Lewis. He's had fast cars since he started in F1. I would'nt know how adaptable he would be.
Lewis is quite adaptable too imo. There is a reason he starts slow but still ends up beating Bottas. Hes constantly making adjustments to get the best out of the machinery.

[Stormsearcher]

"Mediums are slower than softs"...only according to Pirelli. I don't think realistically, there is any meaningful difference between the C3 and C4. The C4 has better warm up, but the C3 has higher operating window. And compared to Bottas, who was on softs and Max also on softs, Charles's lap was mighty impressive. Both Charles and Ferrari are improving (chassis side, pitwall and pitcrew are rubbish).

Now we need a better engine.

Eagerly waiting for next year. The engine is hopefully much better. We can see Lec regularly on podiums. :pray

[Stormsearcher]

CHARLES P4. ONLY 0.438 SECONDS BEHIND THE MERC. WHAT A STAR. :clap

Imagine if Ferrari give him a good car. It will be fantastic to watch. Finally Ham will have competition.

[jgonzalesm6]

Lewis is quite adaptable too imo. There is a reason he starts slow but still ends up beating Bottas. Hes constantly making adjustments to get the best out of the machinery.


Bottas is no Rosberg.....fighting with Lewis on the track.

I can't see Lewis in a mid-field team having to constantly fight for position on the track and deal with the mid-field team decisions. Of course, I've seen him fight for poisitions on the track when he laps other cars or he starts from the back....but he's in a rocket ship and pics his battles where it's safe to overtake.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Lewis is quite adaptable too imo. There is a reason he starts slow but still ends up beating Bottas. Hes constantly making adjustments to get the best out of the machinery.

Nah, the moment it starts to go south he loses his head. The issue is that Bottas is a garbage driver, who still would've fought him for the title if he didn't push the self-destruct button everytime he was in position to beat him. He genuinely is worse than Vettel.

[Liscia]

Imagine if Ferrari give him a good car. It will be fantastic to watch. Finally Ham will have competition.

Race after race Leclerc helps us to keep the faith and I pray he keeps his edge until he has a good car under him! Imagine him in machinery equal to Hamilton!

[KimiBot]

Nah, the moment it starts to go south he loses his head. The issue is that Bottas is a garbage driver, who still would've fought him for the title if he didn't push the self-destruct button everytime he was in position to beat him. He genuinely is worse than Vettel.

I am maybe a little bit perverse, but I really like to hear Hamiltons radio messages when things are not going his way, and yes, Bottas is a mediocre driver, just lucky to get that seat.

[KimiBot]

LEWIS: "I can't tell you how hard that was today! I've just seen that Valtteri topped every session, and I've just been digging to find the time... I chose to do three laps to have a chance to beat his time"

Yes, we know that Lewis, Valtteri is so great, maybe same class than Schumi or Senna or Prost, and you could beat that great Bottas again, you are truly a Champ.:-D

[Rishu]

What a star Leclerc. Driving difficult cars early in his career will surely make go higher

[Brembo]

Ferrari now has the cars up to par. 4th is strong. Charles' driving got Ferrari there. Seb's driving got him where he finished. Seb at least should also be fighting for 4th. pos. with his car. Bottas has a great car, poles, podiums even a win. It's obvious Merc lets him drive to try to win. Not bad results for a " garbage" caliper driver. Lewis needs to win a few races before he can talk about driving skills and decisions on the track. A few poles would also make Lewis more capable of talking like he knows how to drive at least as good as the former good guys. It sure looks hopeful that Ferrari this season will put R Bull Honda behind them and move into that 3rd. place podium spot, or even better! Charles to the rescue !!!!

[nani_s23]

What a star Leclerc. Driving difficult cars early in his career will surely make go higher

Yup :thumb

[nani_s23]

Yep. Look at Seb from coming off of 4x WDC titles. In 2014, due to the formula change, Ricciardo beat Seb at RedBull....by alot of points.

And now we have Leclerc. Both Charles and Ricciardo are adaptable drivers. I loved it when Ricciardo was penalized, I believe 2 races ago, and team radioed to him "You have a 5sec penatly for cutting the chicane(track limits)" and Ricciardo's reponse was mind-blowning. He did'nt even get flustered by it. Ricciardo said, "No problem, I'll make it up and drive faster" (something to that effect).

Both are great drivers and are adaptable.

Can't say much for Lewis. He's had fast cars since he started in F1. I would'nt know how adaptable he would be.

In terms of adaptability, I don’t see Ric on the same level.
Yes for the reply from him in the last race was good.

But he struggled a lot when Max arrived at RB & even in Renault.

Only this year, he’s been consistent provided our engine is out of sorts. For me stand out teams from the season till date are McLaren & AlphaT. They’ve got good package, Norris/Gas/Sainz pulling some great performances occasionally.

Finally Star driver of the season without a doubt Leclerc (if he doesn’t make any mistakes in rest of the season).

Even max, wouldn’t have pull these performances with this ferrari car.

[Brembo]

Charles for sure is the star driver this season. A few more improvements on his car and who knows!!!!! Maybe a win.

[Redfive]

Anyone got a working Skyf1 stream? all my usual ones are not working today. :furious

[MSC Fan]

Anyone got a working Skyf1 stream? all my usual ones are not working today. :furious

Try sportsurge

[KimiBot]

Anyone got a working Skyf1 stream? all my usual ones are not working today. :furious

https://www.totalsportek.com/formula1-hungary/

[Stormsearcher]

Nah, the moment it starts to go south he loses his head. The issue is that Bottas is a garbage driver, who still would've fought him for the title if he didn't push the self-destruct button everytime he was in position to beat him. He genuinely is worse than Vettel.

kinda agree. Bottas is useless. Lewis has had it easy at Merc. but he has had his share of mid field struggles from 2011-2014. Hes held his own for most of it.
Yes, also agree that he can get flustered if challenged (not the same way vettel loses his shyte). We have seen that against rosberg a couple of times.

[Stormsearcher]

What a star Leclerc. Driving difficult cars early in his career will surely make go higher

Yes definitely. I am happy he is having to think and use all his skill just to get points. Once he gets a dominant car, he will be unstoppable.

[FerrariF60]

Yes definitely. I am happy he is having to think and use all his skill just to get points. Once he gets a dominant car, he will be unstoppable.

Dominant car would be nice actually it would extatic if Ferrari would one day give him that...but Charles is just a fenomenal driver, all he needs is a car capable of winning races....he’d have no problems doing the rest....win championships

[PURE PASSION]

Dominant car would be nice actually it would extatic if Ferrari would one day give him that...but Charles is just a fenomenal driver, all he needs is a car capable of winning races....he’d have no problems doing the rest....win championships
Propably its too soon to say such things but i see in Charles some qualities thay very very few drivers have/had !!!!He looks like hes learning fast and try to erase all his falts and become and allmost perfect driver!!!! What i mean is that he is super fast /aggresive in that 1 lap for pole but now hes learn how to protect his tires to become great in races too. He's learned how to overcome the problems of bad car and overdrive it to extract 110% ,but also when you give him a perfect car he will be simply THE BEST !!!! I hope that he doesnt prove me wrong and ofcorse the team to provide him a at least competitive car all season and we will watch one of the greatest of all times if not THE BEST!!!!! Thats my feeling watcing him since his F2 days !!!
And of course I really hope that he stays with us for many many years and why not his hole career,because the minute he leaves I will stop supporting him!!!! The team will comes first for ever !!!!!!!

[Brembo]

Your last sentence says it all for sure. The team Ferrari comes first. I too hope he stays with Ferrari .